Best Barrel For My New Speed

[jabbster]

Ok guys, I want you opinion on what barrel I should get for my new black speed. My favorite choices are above. Pick one, and then post why.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

P.S. I know this has been discussed, but I want your guys opinion on the choices I want. Just kinda narrowing it down a bit.

[j0hn]

I like the CP's kit alot (imo), but i'd go with the Ultralite if you get the kit for that. The pipe set is alright, but a teammember's of mine had the two pieces of set just a little bit, which was causing massive breakage

[SkeL]

Scepter is the best Insert kit in my opinion, and isn't very expensive. I've seen on some boards where the Evil pipe kit's porting will crack when you try and screw the back to the front, a sign of low quality. If you want to go with the flow, get the freak. I use one on my speed and I have no complaints. Longbow is extremely expensive last time I checked. CP isn't up there, but it's pretty pricey too. I voted for the tried and tested freak. Lots of people have them, so if you need to borrow a front or insert, they are pretty easy to get a hold of if need be. The problem with the ultralite/boomstick is that backs and fronts are pretty expensive, and I've yet to find a site that sells them separately.

[Badger]

I voted pipe for smoothest bore, and no inserts that don't line up or bend easily. I havn't heard about the porting cracking.

[jabbster]

Thanks for the input guys, and lets keep it coming. Thanks.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[tHa cLiPsE]

FREAK!

[BURLEY]

freak of course, tested and proved..

[fozzidouni]

I voted Freak for three main reasons.
1. Like mentioned above several time, this system has been tested on just about any gun you could imagine over many years. Which brings me to my next reason.
2. If you have more than one gun, all you need is a new back and you're good to go. You can pass the inserts around like a Bavarian slut on a pirate ship.
3. They have choices on two different fronts and two different backs... not to mention the color choices on the fronts. This makes for many (didn't feel like doing the math) different variations.

[Vantage_TeS]

the freak has the majority

[Tempest261]

if you can afford it, buy multiple bore-sizes of ultralights instead of a freak. Easier on paint, shoots straighter.

(fyi, I own both)

[tHa cLiPsE]

Yea ultralights are VERY nice barrels for Angels... Too bad they don't have like an interchangeable back system for them :-(. But still, Freak is like 2nd best IMO for an Angel.

[Tempest261]

Too bad they don't have like an interchangeable back system for them :-(.

They do... you can purchase backs at some shops.

[tHa cLiPsE]

sweetness! now if they only came in dust blue

[Foosheezee]

Boomers

[Marbalfire]

Freak has proven itself for me, i'll admit, ive never tried another barrel system, but i dont need to with the results i get with the freak.

[Peachdaddy101]

I just sold my freak set in order to buy 3 ultralites with diff. bore sizes and different lengths.

[jabbster]

Well I shoot mostly PMI Premiums, and GAP. Both fit perfect in my boomer I had on my cocker. I am actually wondering how much all the sleeves on a freak are needed? With 2 or 3 boomers or ultralites wouldn't it be better? I am not sure... I like boomsticks 'cause they balance my gun out very nice. They and ultralites shoot the same, but I like the boomstick better.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[yzrm1]

get the freak, I'v had it for over a year and I feel it has the best paint matching inserts, who cares if you can shoot through breaks as well as the pipe, I'v only had a ball break in my freak maybe like 10 times in over a year!

[sfxer02]

looks like freak jabbster i run a freak myself man and no complaints at all i have shot a 14" boomy and didn't compare in accuracy and consistency plus i run a reflex as a backup and all i do is change backs and i am off to the races with my cocker with the same great results so imho join the freak club!!!

[Tempest261]

I'v only had a ball break in my freak maybe like 10 times in over a year!

Try shooting brittle paint in cold weather. My Angel's stock barrel was easier on it than any insert with my freak.

[jabbster]

Ok, the freak is looking good. But what if I want it black dust to match my speed? Is that possible with out paying a ton? Any ideas on where that could happen? Does SP anno them for you in a special dust if you ask? Or does it come dusted? Someone help me...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[jabbster]

C'mon guys anyone care to answer... Read the post above and PLEASE answer... The Freak is looking like the best choice. Help me...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[acoenfam1]

Ultralight all the way. I know people who have had problems with Freak inserts fitting correctly.

[sfxer02]

nah freak all the way and p&p will do the anno for ya they do a killer job and will do whatever color and finish u want i sent them my 2k2 fly to get done when i had it and it turned out sweet
www.supercocker.com

[jabbster]

But I have talked to P&P and they charge a ton. I really like the freak, but I really want it too match my speed... And not cost an arm and a leg...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[Tempest261]

Ultralight all the way. I know people who have had problems with Freak inserts fitting correctly.

My inserts fitted fine but whenever I would shoot brittle paint (Evil, Anarchy, Inferno) I'd get tons of barrel breaks unless it was hot and humid out, no matter what insert I used. The finish is just not nearly as precise or smooth as Dye's stuff. There were no visible marks/dents/burrs on the inserts and I tried two different fronts and two different backs.

Tried a friend's Ultralight and I was hooked. More accurate, quieter, and DIDN'T BREAK PAINT! Then I went and bought three and I've never looked back. My freak set collected dust for a few months and then I sold it.

[sfxer02]

yeah they were a little pricey man but my fly couldn't have turned out any better then i could have imagined butu if u feel like spending the cash i suggest p&p or try these boys i heard they were alright no personal experinces but it's worht a call
http://www.maxanodizing.com/ good uck hope i helped

[j0hn]

Peachdaddy, how'd that turn out for you?

I'm going to wait a bit, and just get two CP backs and a tip, or see how that Lucky 15 Kit comes out

[jabbster]

Well, maybe the freak is not the way to go... I do shoot Evil and Marbs and sometimes even Hellfire, but that is only at tourneys... Does anybody with a freak have experiences with these types of paint in there freak? I like multiple inserts, and would like it too match... But I want the best barrel for my money... More help please, I thought my mind was made up... but now I am not so sure...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[sfxer02]

jabbster i shoot a full freak on my speed and reflex cocker and shoot hellfire or premium every week and no probs man as long as you know how to bore to paint size and i am sure u know how to do that so good luck and go freak man u won't be dissapointed i have a question do u have a back up marker if so what kind because u can probly get a back for it and have a freak set for both markers c-ya

[Eclipse]

Boomstick!!! cauze it tried and true since '98when they started makin em....and I heard storys that the freak inserts dont match up to the tip in some cases plus its easy to damage (bending) and I should know. I own a Ti and a boomer and both have shot straighter than a freak could ever come close

[sfxer02]

well just like the polls says freaks rule !!!

c-ya

[MoogLe]

i love my freak, best thing about it for me is, our field keeps getting different paint so i can always match bore/paint, only thing right now is we are using venom paint and damn that thing sux, its not consistent at all, some balls fall through the sleeve while others get stuck in the same sleeve, just damn horrible, they are not even completely filled, you can see like air in 1/4th of most of the balls, worst paint i have used yet

[JTp8ntballer12]

id say evil pipe cus theres no sleeves, i think its lighter.... and i think it looks better, there not big reasons but theres nothing against it, and lil things make the biggest difference....like if your J.Lo's ass was as small as your cats wouldnt that make a BIG difference?

[jabbster]

The evil pipe and the freak are the two I am intersted in. I am leaning toward the freak, but maybe you guys can change my mind...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[Drachen]

As far as matching the barrel to the gun, Powerlyte will anno the barrel to any of the colors of their inserts and to either a dust or gloss finish for free. So you can get a dust black barrel or dust blue barrel, with either SS or matching backs.

[cryptonomicon18]

The ultralight is probably the best out of the list, but I would go with the custom products kit personally. It kicks the ass out of the freak and pipe and stuff...

[cryptonomicon18]

Oh my don't get the freak... the insert is floating in there and your counting on orings to keep it in place and straight. By changing to a solid back piece barrel it increased by consistancy a lot, broke less paint, and i think is more accurate.

[Badger]

yeah everyone says freak because it is the oldest and more people have it. It is good, but has downfalls that newer barrel kits fix. The pipe IMO is the best, it is so smooth, shoots out broken paint well, and has no inserts to bend or that do'nt line up. The pipe just has backs so they line up perfect time after time.

[Badger]

If you have the money, even smoother than the pipe is the longbow, which has the smoothest bore of all. However it does not shoot out paint as well as the pipe and is alot more expensive for a kit. It does have a unique bore line up system, reverse threads making it the most accurate barrel ever, again my .02 So for me it is between that and the pipe.

[SkeL]

Pipe.

[jtcimp00]

They're paintballs, they are round, they do not fly straight every single time. A barrel will never be perfect in paintball but it can come close to perfect. As long as the inserts or backs are sized right you should be fine. Also when you select a barrel consider the fact that barrels with less porting are better on air (or so they say). my personal choice is a freak with a boomstick front from whitewolf airsmithing. that's why i like the freak, it is easy to obtain new fronts and things. Just keep in mind that it is your choice, everybody's different; if you know anyone with a barrel that you may want, ask to try it. good luck finding a good barrel

[JTp8ntballer12]

i think the pipe system owns, the freak is old and outdated, still good but not the best anymore.

[RenDawg]

Get the Dye Ultralite's. They work just as good as Boomstick's, but are much lighter. Why add the extra weight to a marker that was made light.

[frstrtdmac]

I dont know why nobody has mentioned the JT barrels? You can get the backs for about $30.00 and the tips for $30.00 much cheaper in my opinion than the rest. Alot of the pros are shooting the barrel system. #1 team dynasty is shooting it .. I dont know.. Been trying them out myself. JT seems to work for me. But I also have an older DYE boom stick.. haha

[tHa cLiPsE]

Is Dynasty sponsored by Dye or JT? Ahh, there's a thought.

[punkd]

man i'm going kits all the way from now on a couple of those barrels arent kits unless you got to 4freeflow.com and those are damn expensive. i think im going w/ teh cp kits. bunch of guyz from my team shoot those so i got shoot em a couple times and they perfect. cheap, good lookin, and shoot awsome.

[cryptonomicon18]

Yep..those cp kits are soooo awsome. When I got mine it made me want to throw my freak in the trash (well i didn't, so i guess its for sale if anyone is looking).

[frstrtdmac]

A bunch of pro's use the JT barrels.. Avalanche, Ironmen, etc.. Just wanted to see what everyone is thinking.. where do you get those CP barrel kits?

[j0hn]

http://www.customproducts-az.com/barrel-kits.htm

you can sometimes find em cheaper though. Really if you got your infinity barrel, you only need 2 backs + 1 tip, but go with whatever you choose

[p8ntballdude]

www.4freeflow.com sells boomer and ultralite backs, and any size fronts. get 2 or 3 backs and a front and ur good 2 go. either that or the trusty old freak.

[SkeL]

The only reason pro's use a certain barrel is because it's part of their sponsorship.

[jabbster]

But they would not be sponsored if the product was no good.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[WarpedPb]

ultralight go to www.compulsivepaintball.com and they have backs and fronts
pc

[jabbster]

I did not see them, where? Also, what bad experiences have people had with the freak, and what were they?

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[SkeL]

As long as the product is halfway decent, a pro team will take a sponsorship by anyone. It's all about money.

[idirtryder13]

Freak or Evil Pipe.

[jabbster]

The Freak is nice... I think my mind is made up... Speak now or forever hold your peace...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[captncrunch]

As long as the product is halfway decent, a pro team will take a sponsorship by anyone. It's all about money.

exactly,any team for that matter, because it's not that big of a deal between equipment, if it's halfway decent like skel said, any team, pro or not will usually take it, people obsess about their equpment and don't realize how the products they sport are not what makes them play better or worst, but thats something else, back on track...

Out of the choices you listed get the titanium paintball longbow barrel system, I have a single barrel (no kit), that I use when I shoot evil(it fits super nice), but anyway, the barrel is so accurate, they are light, durable, super tight tolerances, very good quality, yes it is 300 for 3 backs and a tip but they are pure quality.

I'm going to make a suggestion that you have not listed, try a
st!ffi, one of the best barrels I have used, they kick the crap out of ultralites in performance and weight. today I was using a .689 stiffi shooting inferno from 75 feet away and the balls were landind right on top of each other. They are also VERY light, they feel like a piece of bamboo and make it easy to swing your gun around.

[russ]

None of those barrels listed in the poll.

If you want to know what the best barrel is e-mail me, and I'll tell ya.

[jabbster]

I would prefer that you post it here for safetys sake... Many viruses are spread through emails, and I dont want to chance it. Please post what you think are the best barrels here.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[asylumkid]

freak all the way. been in the game onger and has made it's mark on everyone ( literatly. You can maintain front choices very well with diff lengths and colors and styles. These new barrels( all tho good) have mostly mirrored themselves from the freak. At least with the kits they have.The new systems are on there way to greatness, the freak was just one of first to get there.his is just my 2 cents.

[cobra-lcd]

freak or ultalight

[cryptonomicon18]

Inserts were good for the time and it was an awsome barrel, but you can't deny there are better ones out there.

[jabbster]

There might be... But the freak is tried and true. The boomstick is the only other tried and true barrel out there. The freak is just what I think that will suite me the best. The boomstick is also very nice, and with 2 of them you can shoot almost any paint well.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[jabbster]

Ok, I have changed my mind, again. The Longbow is what I think I will be getting. I have read about it and like it the best. Sorry about the sudden change, but now my mind is set for good.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[cryptonomicon18]

oh no!!! don't do it jabbster! don't go to the dark side! just get a custom products kit... Its like buying a bunch of boomsticks, if not better! I love mine! :smile:

[jabbster]

I believe it is the only way... The longbow is the best there is... And I only want the best.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[captncrunch]

good choice

[cryptonomicon18]

Why is it the best?

[jabbster]

Thanks cap'n. I need some support now that I am blowing all this dough... This place is like a ficking support group... I love this place... *tear*

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[jabbster]

Ohh it is the best 'cause it is the smoothest barrel and the most accurate. Try one for yourself and you will see...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[cryptonomicon18]

Accuracy is paint to barrel match and consistancy... I have a perfect paint to barrel match with my CP kit and also +-0 or +-1 at the worst on the chrono. Thats what I call accuracy.

[jabbster]

Paint to barrel match is important. With the longbow set you can get perfect paint to barrel match. You can do the same with the cp kit. After that it all comes down to how smooth the barrel is... That is where the longbow wins. Go to www.titaniumpaintball.com/Barrels.html read about the hardbore system and if you can try one. It will amaze you... If you want you can also go to www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/1265/ and read other peoples experiences. Ya I know that pbreview is BS but just to give you an idea...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[cryptonomicon18]

It doesnt come in that many bore sizes tho... and also I have it to say its not the best looking.. but w/e its your choice.

[jabbster]

I personally think it is the best, and you can not say it is not untill you have tried one yourself. Keep that in mind and try and get your hands on one.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[SkeL]

I would get a longbow if more of a variety of bore sizes was available. The price doesn't help either. Paint to barrel match is very important, and only 3 bores doesn't allow you to fit the paint as well as other barrel kits, IMO.

[jabbster]

That is prolly true. But even with a close paint to barrel match, the longbow shoots darts.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[punkd]

yeah but its so fugly... id just go w/ the cheap cp or maybe go for a small kit freak, or go all out and get an ultralite kit!

[frstrtdmac]

I say go with JT barrels or go with the Empire kit ( evil Pipe ) People on my team have the freak, it is good, but I see them spending too much time if they break a ball, cleaing it out..

[jabbster]

Now punkd I cant believe that you think that the longbow is fugly... I am gonna go get some pics of the one I am thinking about buying and post it there. The barrel matches my speed perfectly... And it looks great...


Sincerely,

The jabbster

[cryptonomicon18]

Originally posted by punkd
yeah but its so fugly... id just go w/ the cheap cp or maybe go for a small kit freak, or go all out and get an ultralite kit!

:dito: it is soooooooooooooo ugly.... about [.................................] much... I would get a CP kit like he said, it will prob end up being same price and you will get more bore sizes too!

[frstrtdmac]

where is a web site to buy them or get pics?

[cryptonomicon18]

http://www.titaniumpaintball.com/

[captncrunch]

I get darts with decent paint like blaze through my longbow, it is by far one of the best barrels out there, get one, you won't be sorry, the thing is light, durable and extremely accurate, better than any dye, jt, evil, sp barrel. Only other barrel that really impressed me is the st!ffi..I own a longbow and LOVE it. I have a freak, I have an evil pipe, dye barrels, have played with numerous jt barrels, cp kits, basically everything you listed for hours, I like my longbow and st!ffi the best.


btw- glad I'm able to support you:grin::)

[frstrtdmac]

honestly i dont care what anything looks like.. if it shoot that much better.. ill buy it.. cause it is titanium.. hahah

[jabbster]

I found the pic of the one I am trying to get. I hope Los doesnt mind me borrowing it... :smile: Well anyway here it is...

http://www.angel-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=78509&fullpage=1

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[captncrunch]

go for it dude

[jabbster]

Thanks I am.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[punkd]

i'm sorry to bash your love but, thats looks like shiot. (just my opinion)

[jabbster]

Now I am gonna cry like a fricking baby...
:cryer::cryer::cryer:
I love how it matches my speed, and think it looks great...
But I guess we are all entitled to our opinion.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[punkd]

well maybe it would look nice on the speed but alone like that i dont like it, show me some pics with the gun to change my mind :)

[cryptonomicon18]

:dito:

[jabbster]

That is a will do. I have to get a digital camera from a friend, my mom wont let me use hers... I broke her last one... hehehe...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[Hornet]

ive shot all the barrels listed matched to Evil paint

all of the barrels shot great accurcy (sp?) is about paint to barrel match

the only difference between them are the porting and the smoothness of the barrel


ill just stick to my JT set and my 1337 Lapco Bigshot on my speed :-)

[Hornet]

also if u dont have a decent 5 +/- over the chrono your accurcy will suffer

[asylumkid]

longbow = gayness. i mean look at it? i could shi't a better lookin barrel than that. yes i know looks aren't everything but you can't go wrong with the freak or dye barrels

[Hornet]

Backs and Fronts have a advantage over Inserts is DURABILITY

ive seen so many freak instets dropped or rolled off a table getting a ding or a dent

[cA$H mOnEy StUnNa]

Me i don't see any reason to have more than 2 barrels the stock angel barrel fits bout any size paint. And then get a .686 or .685 for your tournement paint.

[pntbalmatt]

does anyone want to send a bunch of barrels off to whitewolf to get anodized to match guns? i want to get my aluminum freak done in dust black, but it'd cost 90 dollars. the good thing about white wolf is that he charges 90 nomatter how many parts. 1 or 20. unlimited, basically. SO, if enough of you guys want to send our barrels off, we could get them painted. Oh, barrels and any other aluminum parts. We could do a 3rd party or something. If we get enough people, it could end up costing only $5 or so each. The only catch is that each $90 is good for one color, so the black, silver, and blue groups need to stick together. Let me know if anyone wants to do this... PM me or just reply to this forum.

[jabbster]

Alysum Kid, I don't need your imbasilic opinions. Please keep that kind of, as you said, "shi't" to youself. I am fond of the Longbow and the pupose of you post was nothing, other than to irritate me. Please don't post on my thread any more...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[jabbster]

I would have gladly done that to my freak, exept I am getting a Longbow. I think that is a great idea matt. If you want to join in, please post here.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[asylumkid]

just giveing my opinion jab. sorry about the use of the word sh'it back there. won't happen again.

[jabbster]

It is alright now that you have apoligised. No harm done.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[pntbalmatt]

Actually, I just made a thread about the anodizing. You can get a longbow anodized too; only the back is titanium. Think snatch grips, aftermarket feed tubes (the ever popular glossy Skull Paintball lowrise), 45 grips (for those of you who prefer them), volumizers, triggers, tank regulators... who wouldn't love a matching maxflow or conquest? Our group here could have the hottest bunch of angels anywhere.

[SkeL]

Originally posted by asylumkid
longbow = gayness. i mean look at it? i could shi't a better lookin barrel than that. yes i know looks aren't everything but you can't go wrong with the freak or dye barrels

You have to love the quality posts made by members here. Pure genius. :nerd: :clap:

Jabbster: Get whatever you want. That 200$ longbow isn't a bad deal.

[jabbster]

Thanks Skel, that means alot. Thanks again, you guys are great.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[varT]

I am absolutely amazed at how accurate the evil pipe shoots on my speed, using PMI Big Ball it hits a 4 inch square 95% of the time at 50 feet, I will do my best to get a digital video camera to film it.

[jabbster]

The evil pipe might have been one of my choices, exept that it has a history of seperating at the porting...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[SkeL]

I was the one that noticed that, and it happens very very rarely. If it does happen, you get a new one for free. I'm sure it won't happen to you as long as you don't man-handle the tip.

[jabbster]

Yes, I am sure it is rare. I want a barrel with a perfect track reacord, exclusive, expensive (I like bying the best, and you usually get what you pay for...), and good looking. The Longbow does all this... Perfect for my kind of taste...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[bacon bitz]

except for one thing, its frickin uglyier then my redheaded stepsister, oh wait i dont have one of those

[jabbster]

It is just a matter of opinion... I personally seem to like them... Anyone else think that the Longbow is sexy???

Sincerely,

The jabbster

[joda]

i get my set tuesday so ill see im getting 3 tips and 3 different back titanium bores for $210 brand new! and 1 of the tips is 14" :)

[MoogLe]

whatever happened to:

The jabbster

???????????

[joda]

he poured gasoline on his face then put dirt in his titanium barrel and put the barrel to his head then shot and the sparks caught his face and set him to a burning death.

[p8nt_junkie]

just an observation here but i had been playing with my freak on my led for 2 months and it finally became necessary to utilize the .695 bore and what to my wondering eyes did appear but hooks, and curves, and busted ball shells. I took out the sleeve and noticed the inside diameter had been driled off center of the the outside diameter. Piss poor quality control. the other seven insert suffice but when tou pay 175 for a barrel system they ALL better work correctly. so now i shoot a perfectly machined Pipe no more probs I am now a satisfied customer. Thank you PMI by the way love that ultra evil!

[peedogg32]

i love my pipe, but i dont know anyone w/ the longbow! tell me how it shoots!

[andygonzo]

in rebuttul to the comment about the freak...they have somewhat redesigned the barrels to be smoother and more up to date, and also if you want to anno your gun and barrel to match..you can't if you got a pipe or anything that isn't an insert b/c it will change the diameter, not to mention void any warentee. FREAK is the versital set.....not to mention this question has been asked a billion time....search!!!

[joda]

Originally posted by andygonzo
not to mention this question has been asked a billion time....search!!!

this post was made over 3 months ago

[Bena]

http://www.actionvillage.com/paintball-barrels-dye-barrels-dye-ultralight-barrels-dye-ultralight-glued-barrels.html

For those who want screw in ultralite

[joda]

damn 40 dollars not bad , im lookin for a .693 and a .681 bore right now though , just got my titanium longbow kit and .690 is a little small for the biggest bore since im in florida and its hot as hell here

[BONES]

I am using a CP barrely kit. works great.