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[Slaphappy]

I was talking to a paintball tech at my local paintball distributor. And we were talking about how fast some guns are. And i reffered to my speed at the fastest gun out there, then he replied that some bushmaster can go 66 shots per secand, and that a halo b can do 40 shots a sec if you do some sort of a burst, know this doesnt sound right, But i believe what i hear. Please tell me if this is accurate...


Also off the topic this same guy told me that WDP Is going out of business as well as Smart parts(they lost there crew to pmi thats why the new shocker hasnt come out this was what i was told)
But he said the reason they came out with the speed is because when they made the Ir3 people stopped buying their guns(too$$$$) is any of this sounding right?

[Kdog-13]

Who is this tech? He makes me laugh.

I have heard T9immys are capped at 66 bps but that doesn't allow time for the bolt to clear the breech. I believe the speed is the fastest reliable gun om the market. Halo at 40 bps ,I mean come on.

[Prophet]

Sounds like the guy you talked to is a bullsh_t artist.

1. Yes there is a bushy board out there that is supposed to do 66.6 bps (or something like that). But I think they are discontinued and even then, I doubt the pneumatics could cycle that fast.

2. I have never heard of any way that the Halo B could achieve any higher than the 20 or 22 bps its supposedly rated to.

3. WDP is NOT going out of business. The Speed was released to cover the 'under $1000' market. I know alot of people that bought iR3's (i've seen at least 20 or so in my area).

4. I doubt Smart Parts is even close to going out of business. The Impulse is rather popular as are the Freak Systems. As for why the Shocker is delayed, who knows, check IOG (www.impulseownersgroup.com) they may have more info on that part.

I would stop listening to this guy. Either that or any time he tells you something, you ask him for documented proof.

[Slaphappy]

I have never been to this paintball store til today. It was a last resort i had to paintball. But the guy sounded like he new what he talked about (not that i could believe what he said about the halo) but i also heard about a board that could do 66.6 shot off.

I probably should have stopped listening to him when he asked me if i use co2 with my gun. heh

He was a nice guy though. I was going to play him 1v1 with his cocker, but ha backed out when we started to leave. He had a shocktech cocker with eblade. nice gun

[SkeL]

What store was this?

[Kriptic]

man what a tool... tell him to suck your whoooo.

[peejii]

MROF and BPS are a totally different thing!
Some markers are capable of 60mrof but in this case the bolt doesn't even go all the way back so a ball doesn't have time to drop into the breach.

So BPS is only what really counts.

[Osmoosi]

Modern boards could be MROF capped at 1000 or more with the processors they use, it's completely up to the gun mechanics whether it can _actually_ shoot 10 or 30. It's mostly a marketing gimmick or Shocktech's (or, more probably ICD's) programmer thought "66.6" would sound cool.

The marker would have 15 milliseconds to complete a full cycle, including the time required for a paintball to fall into the breech.

As for the Halo feeding 40. The ball stack in the Halo is spring fed, so the feed time for the first balls in a short stack could be slightly faster than the usual feed rate of the Halo. Probably depends on the amount of paint in the loader, the drive cone would have to spin quite freely. Not sure where that 40 bps came from though.

So, actual 66.6 BPS? BS. :elephant:

[p8ntballdude]

i have a halo b, and on the box they actually do advertise up to 51 bps on bursts, meaning they may be able to get 2 bals out in 2/51's of a second. but the feed rate is no where near 51 bps. so only those balls in that very very very short burst are coming out at 51 bps. advertising gimmick

[Slaphappy]

The store i went to...I cant remember the name but it was a army/paintball surplus store in New LENOX by lemont....I have a friend who lives their and we got paint from them so we could play

[bacon bitz]

Shocketch advertises, their timy's and bushy's with a 66.6 bps board, pointles IMO cant cyle that fast, and can you even pull that fast??

[reflex b2k]

it is a shocktech bushy and yes the board it 66.6 bps the guy not bul****en the halo b can go that fast trust me mu friend got 38 on his gunand it fed every ball

[ghengis]

not to call anyone a bunch of b*llsh*ter but I would like to see how you tested it to get above 30+ out of a halo b. Really .. words don't mean diddly... its the science proof behind it with documentation.

If it looks like it can go 50+ out of a halo b .. doesn't mean that it is 50+ coming out....

any proofs? And NO... your friend say so does not count!

-Ghengis

[Shenanigans]

WDP going out of business! Well heck, so much for the rumors of the IR4s with Speed internals... Guess I better buy a VM68 now...

[padrinot]

give me a shovel its getting thick

[warpedx]

Hey....a VM68 will beat an angel. If you hit them together long enough that is. I'll believe 60 BPS when I see it. First show me someone who can pull 30bps without bouncing the trigger.

[Randal]

Originally posted by Slaphappy
I was talking to a paintball tech at my local paintball distributor. And we were talking about how fast some guns are. And i reffered to my speed at the fastest gun out there, then he replied that some bushmaster can go 66 shots per secand,


Yes, the Shocktech bushy had a board in it capable of 66 bps. I have seen it in videos only, with the halo it will blaze.

Was it actually shooting 66.. ahhh NO of course not. That's all just marketing. No hopper will keep up, no human call pull it that fast and well I don't think any marker will actually shot paint that fast without becoming a blender.

The eye on the bushy will actually slow it down a bit. A Halo is about the only thing that can keep up to a fast human, and a done out marker. It will shoot as fast and as hard as you can pull the trigger. .. almost.

Does it break paint... of course.. all markers do, to some degree. but not much more than my Dark 2k LCD. which is rare, usually it from running or bunkering movements.

But its still a bushy, and pretty fine one, but ugly silver and with lots of upgrades.

The timmy with a board upgrade also is capable of 66. Again it needs a halo to keep up.

Do I like halo's, well they seem like a lot of work to maintain but are fastest available to date. Nothing wrong with the Egg2

So it's not all BS.. just might be the way the tech phrased it, or the way you heard it.

But ask around lots of guys have these upgrades. However I don't know of any humans that can pull a trigger much over 18 - 20 bps.... lots of guys will say they can, not that it really matters much, a rope of paint of 13 bps or more is enough to shut down a lane, and make it nearly impossible to run through.
So how fast it is, is kind of irrelevant. It doesn't make you better. So take it as marketing hype.

Just buy a speed (and you did.. good boy, go to the front of the line) and get a pretty to look at marker that works fine out of the box and doesn't need to be upgraded to death.:doh: