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Syentific
05-26-2003, 04:08 AM
Email between myself and Ethan from Professional Paintball
We are working on it now - it should be done within the next month. I can't wait to see the results either.

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Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

-Ethan S.
President
Free Flow Technology
585-924-9930

----- Original Message -----
From: William Browne
To: ethan@professionalpaintball.com
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: - Free Flow Era Mod -


Are you guys planning a revision for the Era Mod to accomodate the Angel Speeds? I really think that with the new design and low pressure operation of the new Speed, this type of performance piece would really take advantage of the Speed's performance capabilities.

On top of the fact that the Speed now covers more of a input psi range, the Free Flow Era Mod would make it easier to change the cycling psi without the need of opening the gun and removing/adding troublesome shims.

Let me know and I will buy the first one off the line.

William Browne
Team Mirror Image

warpedx
05-26-2003, 06:44 AM
There will still be a point where the hammer does not hit hard enough to make it work. I'm not sure how big a difference the volumizers make on the speed's lpr, but you won't be able to use those with the ERA. But its definitely worth a try.

Badger
05-26-2003, 10:52 PM
what is the ERA mod??

Syentific
05-27-2003, 01:51 PM
It is the External Regulator Adapter. It allows Angel owners to remove the LPR and utilize the arguably "more efficient, more consistant" cocker LP regs. It is said, for the LCD model, that the ERA mod allows 30% more reserve air to increase internal flow.

Free Flow sells then with/without the Palmer Rock, but I am planning to use the Shocktech LP reg, just because I still have one in the box from a cocker project that never made it to the field.

captncrunch
05-27-2003, 05:03 PM
I think it's worth a try, just too bad a volumizer can't be used with it...

MooShoo1717
05-27-2003, 10:43 PM
Sorry guys but i dont quite understand. Is this a new LPR that is externally adjustable? So you could fine tune it easily or is it just a more consistent LPR. Cause if its just more consistent then there is no point. I get +/- 2 with my speed and conquest and thats about as good as any gun gets. Also syentific said that it alows for 30% more air flow but if you cant use volumizers then wouldnt that be cutting off 8 inches of space you could be using? Maybe im missing something. Please explain.

CpCnCir3
05-27-2003, 10:55 PM
this ERA mod has been out forever for lcds and ir3s. nothing new. freeflow is just revising it to work on speeds. if u ask me they are pointless. why would u need to adjust the lpr externally??? just set the stock lpr once and leave it. i already get +/- 2 anyways so why its needed beats me. also, it will most likely cause complications. the stock lpr works like this: as the miniregs output pressure goes up the lpr pressure goes up proportionally. this makes sure that the valve pressure/bolt pressure is balanced so the valve opens up all the way every time. on what mooshoo said about the ERA mod taking up volumizer space, it depends really. a volumizer still does NOTHING on the lpr side of the speed. it only helps on the valve side. so if the micro rock or other lpr is on the lpr side then it will be fine cuz u can still put a volumizer on the valve side. anyways, the point is, just like with the past angels, this mod is pointless and will probably cause more complications than improvements. i think it voids your warranty too.... on the past angels anyways.

Emmit
05-28-2003, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by CpCnCir3
i think it voids your warranty too.... on the past angels anyways.

always has, and always will.....this is not endorsed by WDP, and once you put it on if you don't know how to maintain your own marker you are stuck sending it to these guys as no tech will do any work on it. Additionally you lose the ability to actually see what your LPR is set at. If it's anywhere near as finicky as the older versions it'll be more of a nightmare than anything else.

TopCourage
05-28-2003, 07:41 AM
yeah....i think i will just stay away from it...

padrinot
05-28-2003, 08:51 AM
why would anyone want to void thier warrenty for something that makes such a small difference iin the performance of the angel
i have had many differnet angels aver the past years and i have never even had to adjust the lpr. they have always worked fine
and when i have checked them they have been dead on
that what i love about angels you hardly have to do anything to maintain them .i guess some poeple are always looking for something new to tinker with .

C.Carles-AOG
05-28-2003, 11:27 AM
Buy an autococker if you need to tinker...

freeflow2001
05-28-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by C.Carles-AOG
Buy an autococker if you need to tinker...

Ditto

padrinot
05-28-2003, 01:14 PM
thats what i was saying , not that i like to tinker .
i hate having to continually work on a marker

C.Carles-AOG
05-28-2003, 01:18 PM
That's exactly why I play with an Angel and my cocker is backup. Never had to use it.

R.Vogel-Mo's
05-28-2003, 06:41 PM
how much of a lower pressure do you want the run the gun at? an lower and youll really lose efficancy

Syentific
05-30-2003, 01:30 AM
Believe me, that is one concept I understand...

You guys have struck the very heartof this post and that is my undying curiosity of things that werent meant, by WDP, to be on my gun.

But even more, with the Speeds new design I am wondering if the ERA can take full advantage of its design purpose. Much like the volumizers. At high pressure inputs they really did nothing for the LCD/IR3's, but now with the Speed we are suppose to believe they make a difference.:puzzled:

Free Flow also makes an inline pressure gauge just for this part so you can test the output psi. I am not a diehard ERA fan, but like I said, I am just curious if it will work any better for the Speed than it did for the LCD/IR3's...???:evilgrin: