New angel Speed, need help with chopping!

[pertierr]

Hello guys,

I've had my speed for about a month now. I'm using a new Halo(the one with the black transparent casing), i've been out of the game for like 3 years so i'm not sure if this is the 'B' version or not. I'm also using a MaxFlo with the HP spring running 400psi. I have a WarpedSportz Volumizer on the exhaust side but afaik it's not doing anything, I can lower the pressure a bit more with it, but it's not big enough to make a huge difference.

Anyway, i'm using the marker in mode 1, and have my dwell setup at 14. The problem is that i'm chopping at least one ball per game. I've tried different brands, recently i bought a case of marballizer and it's still doing it..the problem is consistent with any brand of balls.

Have any of you had trouble chopping balls like this? I cleaned the grease off the sensi rod and I did the ball drop test and it detects them just fine.

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

[cameroncarnes]

Is your sensi working good? It's probably the Halo pushing balls past the detents(use the search to find out more bout that)

[Benfrain]

It's the Halo for sure. Try using an Evo II and I would be fairly confident your problem will be solved...

[SkeL]

what color are your paddles? Is it really loud when it's spinning? What color is the speedway/main drive assembly of the halo?

[BlueC&CIR3]

if its a halo A then u are probably just outshooting it a lot. However if its a halo b, then you probably will need to grease the belts to make it not forcefeed as much. Also you should probably use a low rise if your not already. When using the stock rise, the ball stack pressure on the bottom ball is much greater than when using a low rise.

[dark2k2LCD]

you could get the TE software and replace both detents with cobra indestructs. or you could just pay less and get an Evlution II y-board wich is a better hopper

[BlueC&CIR3]

Originally posted by dark2k2LCD
you could get the TE software and replace both detents with cobra indestructs. or you could just pay less and get an Evlution II y-board wich is a better hopper

the thing about the yboard is that its easy to outshoot on a speed if you have a relatively fast finger. Also, evo 2 parts break off soo easy, and they are hard to get replaced for free. If you don't goto a big tournament (nppl or psp event) then you have to pay 5,10, or even 15 bucks for replacement shells, feed necks, lids, battery covers, etc. With odyessy, they'll replace everything for free with you and its almost impossible to outshoot a halo b.

[Fishsticks]

Originally posted by BlueC&CIR3
if its a halo A then u are probably just outshooting it a lot.

He's in mode 1.

To see if you have a HALO A or B: http://www.odysseypaintball.com/images/haloaorb.jpg

[C.Carles-AOG]

Why is your dwell at 14? Factory is 8, you shouldn't need to mess with it. Try that first.

[cryptonomicon18]

Yeah ur valve is open way way too long... u must be getting mad blowback which could be part of your problem!

[pertierr]

Maybe someone can clear this up:

I would think that if the dwell is set lower, then since the valve is open shorter a higher pressure would be needed to achieve the same result than if the valve where open longer...so I would think that with a shorter dwell, you would have a higher pressure crammed into a shorter time which would increase the chance of breaking a ball?? Do i have it backwards?

[danne h]

my dwell is all 3 first green bars lit up at factory setting is'nt that 12?? should i lower it to 8

[TopCourage]

Originally posted by pertierr
Maybe someone can clear this up:

I would think that if the dwell is set lower, then since the valve is open shorter a higher pressure would be needed to achieve the same result than if the valve where open longer...so I would think that with a shorter dwell, you would have a higher pressure crammed into a shorter time which would increase the chance of breaking a ball?? Do i have it backwards?

but you see, that wouldnt be chopping then. that would be a completely different problem.
so are you chopping paint or are you blasting it to bits with your air???

[pertierr]

I think I am blasting it with the air, because the bolt is clean but the barrel is drenched.

I have my dwell at 14ms. I have a warped small volumizer on the exhaust side, so I was able to drop my reg pressure to 200psi but i had to adjust the fps on the minireg up until 275. Could this be the problem? i.e. the minireg being all the way up, even though the intake pressure is low?

[frstrtdmac]

mm.. you know Im having the same problem.. I have my dwell at 3 bars.. Im using a JT barrel set.. An Evo 2 with Y board, mode 2 setting.. Volumizer on the right side ( looking down the barrel ) and tank run at 400.. WHen i run this without the sensi.. no breaking paint, but cant fire as fast.. When I use mode 2.. breaks paint.. does that mean my loader isnt keeping up. Of course I charged the gun, and fresh new batterys. Using Anarchy paintball too. HELP!!!! People say that I might have a bad board.. GOt this when they just came out.

[jase_ace]

yea i was shooting paint thru mine the other day and as soon as i started to shoot abit faster it jst blew the ball up completely and then every 1 after that. First i had it on Mode1 after awhile i changed dwell to like 12 and changed it to mode 3 but as soon as u get paint over the sensi rod it acts as if theres no paint and slows firing. I also couldnt get it consistent over the chrony to save myself, but that could b coz i needa break it in abit more and plus the paint was small as ****. Evo 2 is on the way and will probly just leave the sensi off, if uve got a hopper that can keep up theres no need.

[Badger]

if you use a evo2 you had better use sensi because alot of speed users can outshoot an egg and you WILL chop.....

[frstrtdmac]

Thats the problem.. I think im out shooting the evo 2 with y board.. Maybe I should run this in mode 4? Which is faster? mode 4 vs non sensi? Im still breaking paint in mode 2 :(

[cryptonomicon18]

Mode 1 and Mode 3 are the ones that aren't supposed to shoot unless a ball is detected. Eggs are slow in my opinion anyways compared to halos. What is ur dwell set at too?

[frstrtdmac]

set at 3 bars.. my tank is set at 400 psi.. i cant figure this out..

[matman1]

your saying that your barrel has the paint in it and not ur bolt....make sure ur barrel is screwed in all the way lol

[frstrtdmac]

ya it is.. i have checked everything possible.. and the damn thing chops.. I might get a halo just to see if that is my prob.. cant believe that I can out shoot a hopper.. and my fingers arent that fast..

[Badger]

Yeah I am such a slow shooter usually, but the first time I picked up a speed I just blew everyone away.....it is that easy to learn to shoot fast on a speed, which is why I got a halo.

[frstrtdmac]

did you use to chop with the egg 2 with y? let me know.. what are your settings?

[cryptonomicon18]

Also you gotta make sure you take like 10 slow shots for sensi to calibrate b4 you start wasting the f00ls lol.

[frstrtdmac]

ya been doing that.. like I said.. Without the sensi on, I can fire, not as fast, but not break paint. Should I run this in Mode 4? Can mode 4 fire as fast as mode 2? and which would fire faster? Mode 4 or No Sensi- straight semi auto?

[jase_ace]

straight semi is like MROF at like 24bps isnt it and then mode 1 &2 can go upto 30bps and modes 3 & 4 jst goto an 'achievable' rate of fire. i duno im gona try out mode 2. basically as soon as you break a ball your game is over coz it stuffs up the sensor, and slows down the gun every shot. It says in the manual mode 1 and 3 wont break paint, well i had no trouble breaking paint lol. technically it shouldnt break a ball regardless of the speed of the hopper, after all thats what sensi is for.

[Knobbs]

If your bolt is clean but your barrel is drenched you are breaking paint, not chopping it. You should be shooting a larger bore barrel.

[Moony349]

Yep, what kind of paint are you using? Make sure it's around .689 in size because the stock infinity is .689 bore. Also, make sure it's good paint and not swelling or anything.

[frstrtdmac]

well my stock barrel is .691.. I have been shooting Nelson Anarchy lately.. My paint to barrel match is good through out the day. Ya.. Once you break a paintball.. you need to take the whole gun apart to clean it.. Thats sucks IMO..I dunno.. Which mode is best to run it at.. If Im using the Halo B TE software.. 1 doesnt shoot fast enough, 2 chops, 3 is slow.. havent tried 4 or non sensi..

[cryptonomicon18]

1 will shoot as fast as the hopper will feed, so that could mean you have a problem with sensi or your loader probably.... Mode 4 is like mode 2 except with mode 3's speed.

[frstrtdmac]

is mode 3 as fast as mode 1..

[cryptonomicon18]

Mode 3 and Mode 4 are for sustained rates of fire, so no....

[frstrtdmac]

see i dont understand that.. I started a thread that trying the difference mode MROF.. and everyone said that all mode1-4 shoots 30bps. Well how can you with more sustainable rates of fire?

[pertierr]

mine breaks any type of paintballs...evil, marbalizer, you name it. it breaks at least two per game, this is pissing me off. A gun this expensive shouldn't break so much paint. I do shoot pretty fast, but i'm using sensi mode 2 and a Halo B. Like I said, my dwell is up at 14 and I have a warped volumizer so I am able to run about 185psi from my MaxFlo and still get 275fps. I don't think this is the problem as it broke paint before i put the volumizer on it.

i guess the only thing I haven't tried is to switch loaders to an Egg and see if the halo is the problem. Bleh.

[frstrtdmac]

ya i feel for you..mode 2 for me breaks paint.. mode 1 and 3 doesnt.. havent tried 4 but want to shoot fast.. I have a halo B and evo 2 doesnt matter which one I use..

[cryptonomicon18]

Mode 1 and Mode 2 are the fastest... so use 1 if it doesn't break paint... PERTIERR!?!??!?!? Dwell at 14!? are you crazy!? It should be around 8! That is probably why you are breaking! And are they actually choping (ie - paint on the bolt) or just breaking (ie - paint in the barrel, and none on the bolt)....

[frstrtdmac]

well how am I breaking paint then?

[jase_ace]

It will be harder on the paint with dwell at 8 and softer with the dwell at 14. My factory setting is at 10.

[BLUEWAVEsc]

Yeah... My speed's only chopped ball, and that was the first ball the bolt ever touched... So I forgave her and shot like a dream thereafter... It even says in the manual, "Mode 2 may have the risk of chopping paintballs, but negates the need for the pull and release of the trigger to fire the next paintball at the next window of oppurtunity" or something like that...

[cryptonomicon18]

I have had problems with high dwell because I seem to get a lot more blow back, at least on my iR3.