volumizer

[stevie]

when fitting a volumizer to a speed 05. it says to remove the mini regulator. do i put this back in when i am re-assembelling the gun. i doesnt say to do it in the manual.

i know that using a volumiser lowers the operating pressure. but what are the advantages of this.

[Usurper]

The mini reg is the vertical reg you use as a foregrip not your Lpr inside the gun if that's what you were thinking.

If I remember right the manual tells you to remove the mini reg on almost anything you do to your gun. This is for safety purposes to make sure there is no air trapped inside the gun. I suggest you follow that advise until you become more familiar with your gun as sometimes it's really easy to forget that you gassed it up and didn't shoot it out before you do your maintenence. (The reg doesn't flow backwards to let air out)

[Usurper]

and for the other part of your question, yes it lowers the pressure of your gun. This results in less kick and better air efficiency. Although if you don't know how to adjust your gun accordingly to take advantage of the lower pressure it won't make much of a difference. Also some volumizers are milled to match certain guns and some just look really good on your gun.

[stevie]

ok thanks i think ill leave it for now. untill i see someone that knows how to set the gun up accordingly.

[lthg]

I was under the impression that volumizers didn't so much lower the pressure as they put more air in the valve chamber to reduce shootdown during rapid fire situations. I could be wrong though? If they do lower the OP of the marker, isn't it by quite a small amount?

[Usurper]

True. Just screwing a volly onto your gun is only going to lower your gun pressure by a Psi or 2 (same volume of air in a larger space will result in lower pressure). The result will be minimal though because we are only talking about 1.5 to 2 cubic inches of air. The real advantage is just what you stated lthg, the less shootdown allows you to turn down the Hpr more, resulting in the "real" lower pressure that vollys allow you to run.

Edit: Now that I think about it some vollys almost double the internal volume of your gun, that would have to lower the Psi more than just a few. I'd say that combined with turning down the reg would get your pressure alot lower.

[speedysprocket]

-stevie, where do you live, maybe i can help you tune your gun. i lve in CT, just a thought.

-Owen where did you find that picture. haha, i glad i never bought P.E. hahaha

[stevie]

i live in scotland. but thanks anyway

[Usurper]

-Owen where did you find that picture. haha, i glad i never bought P.E. hahaha

I sent you the link

[tom allen]

i live in scotland. but thanks anyway

You're a long way from home Steve.

The volumiser i used on my 05 was the large one, which dropped the pressure over 50psi, maybe more. Remeber to chrony after you put it on, as your fps will raise.

[stevie]

ive got myself a crossfire 1.1L 4500psi low pressure air bottle now. how efficient are the speed 05's and rougthly how many shots can i expect to get out of this.

[tom allen]

I've never paid much attention to x amount out of x type of bottle, as at most tournies you've got 4500 fills available at the start of every game. But you'll have no probs with the 05, they're very good.

[stevie]

i dont play tournement. i play scenario i had a tippmann a5 and it was a gas hogg. so i wanted somthing more efficient and could shoot fast. i would also like to give the tournement games a try. i got halo realoader b today and hopefully getting my air bottle tomorrow. so im goin to try everything out at the weekend so i hope everyting works ok for me. this forum has been great for advice.

[Usurper]

Glad we could help

[aznazsnipr]

sometimes I see 2 vollys installed on some guns... what is the reason for this? With the Volly install will the marker operate more quietly? With the large volly what dwell settings do you guys have it set at? Thanks

[Shibbykins]

§§§§s n gigglez is why

it only make a difference on the right (exhaust side) tube

[tom allen]

purely for looks

[aznazsnipr]

what dwell settings are you guys running with your vollys?

[nebeninn]

hey i goth those 3(i guess stock) volumizers.i really dont know what do do...any ideas where to get manual or anyone willing to give clear instructions?

[speedysprocket]

on an 5peed/A4 platform, the best from what I am told is the medium on the right tube while looking at the backplate. The difference between the big volly and the medium is so little that you should use the medium because it's less wieght. The is a big difference in dwell if you use the small volly.

[nebeninn]

yeah,i understand this but what do you need to do???dwell etc.and how-i just screw the left plate out and replace it with volly?

[dr.strangelove]

Remove the end cap, screw the volly on, chrono your gun, and you're finished. Or alternatively, drop your dwell a couple of points, then chrono your gun.

*edit* Volumizers add more volume to the valve chamber, allowing you to use less pressure. Remember from 5th grade science, that pressure and volume are inversely related. The effect a volumizer has on efficiency will be minimal. If you adjust your dwell to compensate, your efficiency should stay about the same. If you don't, it should be slightly worse. Using a volumizer in and of itself isn't going to improve your efficiency. Higher volume and lower pressure, all things being equal, will actually be less efficient.

[nebeninn]

what now?some say it helps dr. says it doesnt...now what dwell should i use if im running on 800psi reg and medium volly???

[dr.strangelove]

"Helps" depends on what you want. If you want lower pressure, the volly will do you good. If you want to improve efficiency, the volly isn't going to have a large effect one way or the other, and will actually hurt efficiency unless you balance your other settings to compensate for it. You aren't going to screw on a volly, chrono, and increase your shots per tank. Your dwell will be dependent on what your LPR and HPR are. 10 is a good starting point.

[speedysprocket]

Hey dr., by adding a volly, doesnt that allow the gun to recharge faster?

[dr.strangelove]

Hey dr., by adding a volly, doesnt that allow the gun to recharge faster?

No. It has no effect on recharge. That's a regulator function. If you mean, will it improve consistency, then the short answer is basically no as well. If you want to read a more detailed explanation, read this thread from PBN: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2619543

[nebeninn]

oky:D