CP a1 reg-adaptor +reg

[nosauten]

Anyone using the new CP inline a1 adaptor+regulator yet.


Seems kinda steep to spend $30 on a cp reg adaptor and then spend @80 on the regulator for the Angel 1.

If anyone is using it, are you really seeing a difference. Is really worth spending $110 on upgrading the regulator?

[Russ A1]

Anyone using the new CP inline a1 adaptor+regulator yet.
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Seems kinda steep to spend $30 on a cp reg adaptor and then spend @80 on the regulator for the Angel 1.

If anyone is using it, are you really seeing a difference. Is really worth spending $110 on upgrading the regulator?

There would be a few reasons why you would get one, being able to use any tank on the A1 and not having to worry about blowing your mini reg up and the other being able to pull your mini reg of the gun for cleaning without stripping it down

[TheFreak779]

you could also get other colors for the people that like the look good

[BoB]

Two shop guns we did with the CP stuff

[RangerJoe]

Sweet!!!!

[BustA]

Two shop guns we did with the CP stuff


Bob...do you maybe...want to send me one of those?? PM me for my address...

[RangerJoe]

you...could...just...buy...the...cp...stuff....fro m.....him... www.fixmyangel.com

[Furby]

http://www.68caliber.com/features/reviews/story042430.php

[nosauten]

Thanks for your replies guys.
I might consider getting one.

And I love those pictures Bob, especially the ice one.

Are those the new eye covers in your pictures? The eye covers appear silver in the first picture.

[nosauten]

Just another question though....

Once you get the CP hookup, do the joy and rage settings still apply, especially in terms of the pressures for LPR and exhaust valve?
And what about the board settings?

I mean, you're using new hardware, so I'm just assuming that the pressures might be slightly different.


Thanks.

[BoB]

No need to change your settings, just install and then radar. Those are just plated eye straps. The grips are prototypes.

[fucusmania]

i like mine especially when i will get my hands on a 2-liter . . . lol

[Trigga Nometry]

I wish WDP would make the stock grips with reverse stock colors. It'd be cool to have the grips in mostly red, blue, olive, grey, etc.

Those prototype white ones look really nice!

[Dr3d]

I wish WDP would make the stock grips with reverse stock colors. It'd be cool to have the grips in mostly red, blue, olive, grey, etc.

Those prototype white ones look really nice!



Agreed would make them look even more lush than they already are!!!

So I am right to believe with the CP reg on my A1's, I could use HP with no ill affects ??

[karseras69]

yes ^^

[nosauten]

I have another question.
When trying to buy the regulator, it has a place where you can select pressure. there is 0-300, and 0-500.
What does this mean? Is it better to select a 0-500 over a 0-300?

Also, which one fits the angel and has about the same length as the stock reg--the 3.5 inch one or the 4.125 inch one (since you also have to factor in the length of the adaptor). I don't want anything that will turn out to be much longer than the stock reg, or too short.

[karseras69]

i suggest you take out your ruler for the second part of your question even though i am quite sure it is the shorter one that you want.

about the numbers i dont really get what u mean

[Furby]

CP Shorty Reg and 0-500.

[nosauten]

Thanks.

[skilz]

Here's how it looks on mine--CP Shorty (0-500), 90 degree swivel adapter.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/skilz2557/A1_CPreg.jpg

[nosauten]

Here's how it looks on mine--CP Shorty (0-500), 90 degree swivel adapter.



I guess the Pweter is the closest to gunmetal Velvet they have. My A1 is gunmetal velvet and I notice that they don't have that color.

Might be time for me to consider some anodizing:)

[fucusmania]

yeh i want to do to mine what you did to yours with the blue on the reg but make mine red like they had at the wdp tent at tampa . . .

[Fargbollen]

Copied from the 68 caliber article:
"Custom Products' job has been made quite a bit easier because WDP has instituted a program that allows manufacturers of accessories access to the CAD (Computer Assisted Drafting) drawings used to make the Angel One to ensure that accessories made for the Angel One will work properly and not void the marker's warranty from the factory."


Being a professional CAD designer myself I prefer Computer Aided Design which is the modern day meaning of CAD.
Why the meaning changed over the years is made clear by this explanation on wikipedia.

Pasted from wikipedia/"CAD":
"CAD originally meant Computer Aided Drafting because in the early days CAD was really a replacement for the traditional drafting board. Now, CAD usually means Computer Aided Design to reflect the fact that modern CAD tools do much more than just drafting."

Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design



Regardless of this "horrible wrong" bringing us back to the veritable stoneage of computers as work tools, 68 caliber is spot on in their assessment of the performance and field of use of the CP reg and adapter. An excellent reg and an excellent adapter. But you only rellay need it if you're usig a HP air system for your A1. And for the *bling* looks of course.
Still all my older Angels have CP regs by now so I might end up getting one for my A1 just so it fits in with my collection. And talking about Bling, I already got the silver color kit and that's about the same cost as a CP reg & adapter, for no performance gain.

[Trigga Nometry]

So the only advantage of using a CP or any other reg on the Angel 1 is because it is easier for the end user to service the aftermarket reg over the Angel 1 minireg. I come to this conclusion because on the CP site it says:

..best results are achieved from a low pressure output tank.

That sounds like the same recommendation as for the Angel 1 minireg (the low pressure tank thing).

[bmoney03]

it looks like it but does CP blue..match A1 blue??

[Fargbollen]

So the only advantage of using a CP or any other reg on the Angel 1 is because it is easier for the end user to service the aftermarket reg over the Angel 1 minireg. I come to this conclusion because on the CP site it says:

That sounds like the same recommendation as for the Angel 1 minireg (the low pressure tank thing).

Well, that's how it looks when you read that. But the difference is that the performance difference between HP and LP is less compared to the A1 stock reg. And also the CP may have a slightly higher consistency. But then the A1 reg is already great, so it won't make much difference when you play.

But this is something I found out from testing it myself: My older LP angels, A4 and A4 FLY, both with CP regs, go from acceptably efficient to very efficient if I use an LP air system compared to a HP air system. It's not just dipping deeper into the tank, it's more efficient per shot.

[Trigga Nometry]

If that is true, then where is the excess energy being expended if the system is less efficient? Seems to me that the extra air being used (that is the measure of less efficiency) would be due to the recharge rate of the regs.

[skilz]

it looks like it but does CP blue..match A1 blue??

Nope, not really even though it looks that way in my picture. I have since gone back to an all black regulator to go with the black adapter. It still looks clean as hell.

As for HP versus LP, I do know this--LP tanks will cause less variance in velocities when chronoing. HP's can typically yield 5-10 fps variances, while LP's usually result in 0-3 fps variances. Efficiency seems to make sense, sort of, but I have a hard time explaining it--basically, I believe LP tanks regs hold the air in the tank better, resulting in less blowby (help me out here, guys!) from the inline reg, solenoid, and/or exhaust valve. Does that sound about right?

[Chimpy]

I ran my A1 with CP adapter & reg at the Millennium Campaign Cup at the weekend. Worked perfectly (I'm running a 750psi CP tank reg).

Might not offer any advantages over the stock reg with an LP tank, but I like it. :)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7292/a1wy5.jpg

[Death_Dealer]

im looking at going this route , and would like to know. if i can use any other brand of regulator instead of the CP.

[skilz]

Any regulator will work with this adapter.

[lucky7s15]

I'm more interested in whether or not there is a better option for the cp reg or not, other than preference of course.

[skilz]

It's all preference. Some prefer their CP reg, some the Dye Hyper, some the Planet Eclipse reg, and so on. Basically if you already have a broken-in reg lying around you can just screw it on and not have to worry about consistency problems--I think that the biggest real advantage to this setup (besides the ability to safely use HP tanks) besides possibly looks.

[pittbull01231]

damn where can i get some plated eye straps?

[budda]

You can do the eystraps your self.

All you need is a good plastic type of primer and paint, and do not over spray it.then cleat coeat it.

[pittbull01231]

cool ill get an extra set and try that out!

[Madukes]

hey i was just wondering, does the adaptor have a guage port in it? and also does anyone have pictures of any other regulators on their gun other then the cp mini? very interested in this upgrade

[budda]

Hey every one has anybody used a AKA sidewinder before how are they. Looks i know the look kinda plain, I am looking for performance info is it worth the money?

[MVS1]

hey i was just wondering, does the adaptor have a guage port in it? and also does anyone have pictures of any other regulators on their gun other then the cp mini? very interested in this upgrade
The adapter doesn't have a gauge port, so if you want a gauge you'll need a reg with a gauge port. I've got a pic around here somewhere of my A1 w/B/L torp on it I'll see if I can find it. I like the CP mini because w/a 90* on the bottom of the reg the macroline is a straight line to the ASA.
Hey every one has anybody used a AKA sidewinder before how are they. Looks i know the look kinda plain, I am looking for performance info is it worth the money?
AKA sidewinder is pretty damn good, however if your going AKA get the 2 liter +...http://www.akalmp.com/regulators.html