Good Volumiser for Speed?

[Benfrain]

Never used a volumiser before (on my IR3) as they were always considered cosmetic enhancements...

However, when my Speed arrives I will want to add a volumiser to run at lower pressure etc

So - what is a good volumiser? Dye?

Or are WDP releasing their own?

Thanks in avance for your thoughts...

Ben

[Emmit]

I think someone said that WDP was doing a couple of different sizes, although with the fact that the LPR is now on the left side of the marker, you could theoretically add 2 volumizers and actually achieve something

[Benfrain]

Oh, in that case I'll get a WDP one me thinks. they'll have a tech stand at a local tournament leg this weekend so I'll try and pick one up then...

Cheers Emmit

[warpedx]

Even with the lpr changed, Angels have been good out of the box without volumizers so far, might still be a cosmetic enhancement. I'd think all the volumizers sold right now would be fine. But thats just me, haven't had any experience with the speed yet.
Let us know what the tech says.

[dr.strangelove]

How would a volumizer help anymore on the speed than it would on the IR3?

So the LPR's on the left side now huh? So what, they reversed it? Put the battery on the right, and all the moving parts on the left? Whatever for?

[5150]

The speed had a redesigned internal system that would mmake a difference for volumizers is what I hear.

[dr.strangelove]

Popular thinking used to be that volumizers aren't really big enough to provide a much higher volume of air. Unless they're making new 2 foot long volumizers, I don't see how it would drastically help is all.

[Emmit]

strangelove......they didn't reverse anything on the Speed....watch the video on FON and Rodney talks about it, they made the battery smaller so they were able to mill out some more on the inside opening up air passages, and move the LPR over to the left side, so now the right side where it used to be is a huge air chamber. They are saying now that with the ability to achieve pressures as low as 150 you're going to have to use a volumizer for the extra air. I think that you should probably be able to get 2 regular sized volumizers and put them on both sides, and save yourself the ugly humungous one that some people have referred to........but hey those are just my observations and opinions and what do I know :dunno:

[oofreestyle]

I just got back from vegas and I asked about the volumizers, He pulled a set out and they are going to be available from WDP in a set: each set containing 3 sizes. He was not sure how much the would cost.

The biggest volumizer was I think about 4 inches long and the smallest was the size of a normal volumizer.

I was told that the huge volumizer were a must to achieve low presure. I was also told that you would get less shots out of your tank but no one was really sure how much less.

[captncrunch]

thats so cool. I love lp guns and now if yu have to play a tourney and shoot alot of paint you can just change your volumizers and have the gun shoots like an normal gun and be efficient as possible. I want one so bad.

[CpCnCir3]

im thinking since the right side of the gun is already a huge air chamber that 1 small one like a dye will be just fine to go LP. if not id rather use 2 small ones than 1 large one. then again, im sure we will be able to come close to 200psi without any volumizers at all. but to get to that 150psi its going to take some crazy volume.

[dr.strangelove]

Thanks Emmit, cleared everything right up for me.

So what they're saying is that even though there is an entire HUGE air reservoir on the right hand side of the marker, that we need a 1 inch long, 1/4 inch diamater hollowed out piece of metal because it expands the volume so much? Cause come on, nobody is going to use a 4 inch volumizer, they're going to use standard ones. Almost sounds like a gimmick to get you to buy their volumizers

[TopCourage]

isnt the gun already factory set at 150psi...i thought it was possible to get it lower than that??? i might be wrong though.....

[Roy]

Thats kind of GAy ! you have to use a voulumizer ?? WHy so ?

[wadd]

lower pressure requires a higher volume of air. You have to create a large enough space for the air to fit in to. The entire right side of the speed is a big air chamber, but the more room you give it, the higher volume of air you can fit, and therefore the lower pressure you can go. It'll be really low pressure without the volumizer, but the volumizer will allow you to get even lower.
Jeremy

[Roy]

ohhh .. so you dont HAVE to use a volumizer ? for the speed to function properly.

[wadd]

yes, that's my understanding.
Jeremy

[russ]

Without any volumizers, the output from the minireg should be around 350 psi.
With the largest Chamber Volumizer it is possible to get the output mini reg pressure down to about 180 psi.

[Docnlk]

why would the mini reg pressure change anything, they are all talking about the lpr pressure.

[russ]

Originally posted by Docnlk
why would the mini reg pressure change anything, they are all talking about the lpr pressure.


???

lpr controls the ram pressure

[russ]

Ok now I think I get what you were after.

This should clear it up a bit.

The volumizers are for the chamber side of the gun, not the lpr side of the gun. Although you can and I forsee a lot of people putting a volumizer on the lpr side of the gun.
By increasing the volume of air used to propell the paintball, lower pressure is achieved.

[Docnlk]

Originally posted by russ
Without any volumizers, the output from the minireg should be around 350 psi.
With the largest Chamber Volumizer it is possible to get the output mini reg pressure down to about 180 psi.

What I was talking about is this, you said that a volumizer changes the mini reg output pressure. Your mini reg output pressure is controlled by the screw in the mini reg. Angel suggests that the mini reg output pressure be set at a certain output when tuning the lpr, but the volumizer should have nothing to do with the output pressure of the mini reg. So what I don't understand is how the volumizer changes the output of a part on the gun that regulates air before it would ever get to the volimizer and lpr. So did you mean to say "lpr pressure down to 180," or am I missing something completely? And this is very important to me, because my speed is ordered, and I want to know exactly how the low pressure stuff works.

[russ]

Again I will say this THE VOLUMIZER WAS DESIGNED FOR USE ON THE AIR CHAMBER THAT PROPELS THE BALL, NOT THE LPR.

The lpr pressure is still the same.
There are 3 volumizers designed by WDP.
If you don't use any volumizers to shoot the gun around 290 fps, the mini reg output will be around 350 psi.
If you want the same velocity with the largest volumizer, the mini reg output would be around 180 psi.
So the working pressure of the gun can be lowered quite a bit if desired.
You need to remember, the lpr only controls the pressure of the ram.

[smasher41]

its nice to have for the people with lp maxflows(0-240psi) out there that came to there senses and dumped their impulses and such for an angel.

[jasyn]

hrm .. i think a 12" long volumizer would be stupid funny. it would probably look like a screwed angled double barrel shotgun.
:tongue: :lol:

[IMPerfection]

hey man i liked my Impulse! But I think I will like this angel better lol