Help with removing breech rod and sollenoid.

[rammstein_5]

So I'm giving this angel se led i have in my possession an entire overhaul. Installing a new frame, upgrades i have laying around, cleaning lubing, and other things.

So i'm running into some trouble.

1. I dont understand how to get the led sollenoid out. I understand the three screws near the sight rail. I got the smallest set screw out, but the other two screws if there even are i dont understand how to get out.

Also from the back there are small screws i dissasembled, but left me with the noid into two peices. I guess basically im trying to get the silver plate out and the complete noid.

2. My breech rod will not come out. The little knob part jammed inside the marker and i cannot get it out. I have used plier that gripped the rod well and pulled to the point where i strained my wrist to no avail. I have tryed getting the pins on the left side out to no avail i cannot find the right size screw to thread into the pins to pull out.

Also i have tryed cutting it out with a cutting disk on a dremel between the breech and body, but only scratched it becuase the blade would start to touch the ram tube and the rest of the body.

I am in need of some help with these two problems. Hopefully i can make this led one of the best.

[chris71383]

For the Solenoid, its just the one screw that holds it in there and you don't need to take the back part of the noid off. Once you remove the set screw up top you have to push the noid and manifold out from the front of the gun, I use a Dowel to push it out by inserting it from the front of the gun and pushing on the black plug at the back of the breech. A word of caution through, getting the assembly back in is alot harder than it seems because the Orings are extremely tight and tent to get sliced as you push it back in.

As far as the breech rod, when you say knob do you mean under the back plate where the spring sits?

[rammstein_5]

Not quite sure. I usually cut the little part of the rod off and just take out the springs and just bend the rod slightly, works best for me.

But see the rod is jammed, im thinking its along the lines that hte little part that sticks out is stuck inside the marker. I've tryed pulling, im attempting to find a tool to cut the knob off between the gap of the body and roto breech.

That would be my last resort though so im trying to configure how i can get the little thingy unjammed or spring.

Other then that big problem thanks for the sollenoid help. That is probably why i couldnt understand how it came out since i have no way to get inside to my ram or bolt.

[chris71383]

Well, its possible that it might have broken off and the person put it back in anyway. Once the rod was in the there it might have twisted and the little nub got wedged in the bore, I have seen it before.
The other possibility is that its rusted in place, have also see that and actually just got done taking a gun apart that was suffering from that exact issue, the way I got it loose was to heat up the rod where it goes into the breach with a pen torch then it came right out.

[rammstein_5]

I beleive it may be rusted aswell. I purchased the marker like this from a friend at a proshop. The marker was left there for like 4 years.

So if i used a blow torch i should try to use hte heat to expand the aluminum body yes? then try to just pull out the rod.

[chris71383]

pretty much, you just need to warm it up really well not to the point where its discoloring it. make sure you heat it evenly also.