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Spade
11-29-2006, 06:59 AM
I am going to purchase a angel within a few days but I am stuck debating between the Angel 1 and the G7 fly. Which one is most prefered by most. I'm a front man and I like speed, but I also want good accuracy. Which one has a smoother trigger, and better eye detection, cause I love playing speed ball, and I want as few breaks as possible when shooting a very high bps. what would be the major difference between the two, and is the custom board really that great?

Performance_Dave
11-29-2006, 09:35 AM
A1 is very easy on paint. I think that would be your best bet.

caples69
11-29-2006, 10:16 AM
When I was getting ready to buy my gun I had the chance to shoot both that day, and I chose the Angel 1, I think it was alot better, even though the G7 is a great gun

josh_hill
11-29-2006, 10:23 AM
I've played with the G7, G7 Fly, 06 Speed, and A1 and I'm tellin you man, A1 is the only way to go right now.

pbstr4l
11-29-2006, 10:24 AM
A1 = the right one

Spade
11-29-2006, 02:55 PM
thanks a lot guys that's what I wanted to hear, can the Angel 1 keep up with the G7 fly as of speed

schroederman
11-29-2006, 03:07 PM
question is if the g7 fly can keep up with the 1...

boostmonkey
11-29-2006, 07:15 PM
question is if the g7 fly can keep up with the 1...

...if your loader can keep up with either (it can't).

L.T.Smash
11-29-2006, 07:26 PM
In my opinion (having shot both A1 and G7 Fly) they are the same. As far as speed is concerned. The gun will only go as fast as your loader, and they both go over 30 bps.

BustA
11-29-2006, 07:29 PM
they are both advertised as 30 bps. i have yet to see a g7 or an a1 actually shooting 30 bps.

Trigga Nometry
11-29-2006, 07:33 PM
they are both advertised as 30 bps. i have yet to see a g7 or an a1 actually shooting 30 bps.To see that, you first have to see a loader that will feed a gun at a CONSTANT 30+ BPS. As far as I know, a QLoader is the only loader capable of that.

tgallo
11-29-2006, 07:36 PM
and I want as few breaks as possible when shooting a very high bps.

good thing you specified that as some players enjoy ball breaks at high BPS

BustA
11-29-2006, 07:41 PM
I thought a cheetah'd halo with boost pack was capable of feeding a steady 30 bps.

Spade
11-29-2006, 09:30 PM
"good thing you specified that as some players enjoy ball breaks at high BPS" Thanks Tgallo i see your looking for every opratunity to make a wise crack. but between the two I'm trying to see which one people experience less ball breaks

Shooters~SOBA
11-29-2006, 09:35 PM
the g7 fly can reach 30bps with the demo mode but not with paint, (i dont think any gun can) but you'll definatly experience less ball breaks with the A1 and its waaaaay lighter, and or course the size but other then that there both very similar.

BustA
11-29-2006, 09:42 PM
(i dont think any gun can)

why do you say this? i have seen guns shoot 30+ bps

Shooters~SOBA
11-29-2006, 09:52 PM
well then i guess i was wrong

Bagginsy
11-30-2006, 06:41 PM
Yep - shot em both and went with the A1 - very nice! Tighter package

boostmonkey
11-30-2006, 07:45 PM
I have a video of my 06 Speed with a Cheetah'd Halo actually shooting paintballs 1/30th of a second apart. So some markers can actually cycle that fast. The Halo can't maintain a feeding rate that high though.

Like trigga said, I think only a Q-loader is that fast. The couple of Victory'd Halos I have tested can only sustain about 20 bps.

thatguy!
11-30-2006, 08:05 PM
Gonna post said vid? :)

boostmonkey
11-30-2006, 08:26 PM
Gonna post said vid? :)

Sure. It's not that impressive, but I can upload it. What sites host videos that acutally allow you to download the video? (so you can goldwave it)

thatguy!
12-01-2006, 06:37 PM
Putfile will let you download now, or filefront.

boostmonkey
12-04-2006, 11:25 AM
Rock on. In that case here is the vid:

Click here to watch 06-Speed- (http://media.putfile.com/06-Speed-)

I had the TR set on 5 (max for a Speed). You can hear in the video when the gun bounces really bad. That's when it hits 30 bps of course. Here is a pic. If you're not familiar with Goldwave, the number in parentheses at the bottom is telling you the highlighted section is 33ms long.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/superboostmonkey/paintball/06%20Speed/06speed30bps.jpg


When the gun wasn't bouncing really bad I was only shooting about 17bps. Not that I'm unhappy with only shooting 17bps! :devil1: Here is a pic.


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/superboostmonkey/paintball/06%20Speed/06speed17bps.jpg

eddieme2u
12-04-2006, 01:00 PM
Nice job boost, once again you out do yourself!

LI_Angel1
12-04-2006, 02:06 PM
pulse loader is sick

Won Hunglo
12-04-2006, 02:57 PM
Get the defibrulator. That gun is in V-Fib!

angel1013
12-04-2006, 03:48 PM
A1 definately

LI_Angel1
12-04-2006, 04:54 PM
get an A1 w/ a pulse hopper...

thatguy!
12-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Boosty, I see you got the V3 to work?

boostmonkey
12-04-2006, 08:25 PM
Hmmm, well, not really.

I broke the common sense rule of modding and changed a bunch of things at once on my Speed. Next time I played it chopped balls ridiculously bad. So I put everything back to stock to get it to work reasonably and started over. That included putting the Victory board back in the Halo.

I'm trying to get this Lucky Air Assist Valve to quit leaking now (I am waiting on parts from Lucky). Once I get the marker working consistently well I'll give the Cheetah V3 another try.

BAKERmancan
12-04-2006, 10:35 PM
g7 fly = more reliable and no rolling production changes as in the aone...obvious choice there..

bournekiller
12-04-2006, 11:45 PM
*hops on bandwagon*

No seriously, I think the A1 is a good choice. :)

L.T.Smash
12-05-2006, 11:28 AM
Both are a good choice. The A1 is lighter and is great for playing a tight position. I've heard that there are some bugs with the A1. So G7 Fly might be the safer one. But I think those problems have been worked out. You'll be pleased with what ever you pick.

Spade
12-05-2006, 06:44 PM
Thanks I'm ordering the Ice Dust A1

BustA
12-05-2006, 06:46 PM
good choice. if you order it from fixmyangel.com you get a free 68/45 tank or a free halo b.

BAKERmancan
12-05-2006, 06:48 PM
that is a good deal

Spade
12-06-2006, 03:02 PM
that is a great deal, but I didn't see the Ice Dust Gun. I only saw Ice velvet

BoB
12-06-2006, 03:20 PM
From what have seen there is no real distinguishable difference between the Ice Dust and Velvet. There are no more Dust labeled Ice's left either as Velvet has replaced the Dust finishes.

BoB
12-06-2006, 03:47 PM
g7 fly = more reliable and no rolling production changes as in the aone...obvious choice there..

Since the G7 Fly is no longer manufactured there will not be anymore rolling changes available and/or factory improvements.

Spade
12-06-2006, 11:03 PM
From what have seen there is no real distinguishable difference between the Ice Dust and Velvet. There are no more Dust labeled Ice's left either as Velvet has replaced the Dust finishes.

thanks that explains why I keep seeing so many changes

jenou
12-06-2006, 11:37 PM
they are both advertised as 30 bps. i have yet to see a g7 or an a1 actually shooting 30 bps.

I have. My buddy has an Ice Velvet angel 1 and he just bought his pulse loader last weekend before the tourney we went to. That thing was chrono'd at plus or minus 33 bps. It was insane.

BustA
12-06-2006, 11:46 PM
From what have seen there is no real distinguishable difference between the Ice Dust and Velvet. There are no more Dust labeled Ice's left either as Velvet has replaced the Dust finishes.


would this make ice dusts rare considering they dont make them anymore...?

BustA
12-06-2006, 11:47 PM
I have. My buddy has an Ice Velvet angel 1 and he just bought his pulse loader last weekend before the tourney we went to. That thing was chrono'd at plus or minus 33 bps. It was insane.

please make a vid

thatguy!
12-07-2006, 01:05 AM
I have. My buddy has an Ice Velvet angel 1 and he just bought his pulse loader last weekend before the tourney we went to. That thing was chrono'd at plus or minus 33 bps. It was insane.

dood my ir3 was hitting 58 plus or minus like 45 over the chrono the other day!

BAKERmancan
12-07-2006, 02:21 PM
dood my ir3 was hitting 58 plus or minus like 45 over the chrono the other day!


your chrono is broken :p

thatguy!
12-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Maybe.

srsly though, the red chronos around here never clock me over 13. Max ramp, 13. Semi, 13.

Lame-o.

BAKERmancan
12-07-2006, 09:11 PM
that sounds about right...that's not very slow

13 balls hitting my bunker every second is more than likely going to keep me from poking out while it's hitting.

thatguy!
12-07-2006, 10:47 PM
But the point is that I (or the gun) is going much faster than 13. It doesn't matter at all, and I don't know why we're off on this tangent.

eddieme2u
12-07-2006, 10:59 PM
um, yah, but ANGEL 1 RULES!!!!!

LI_Angel1
12-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Guys, all I know is with my pulse hopper, without the RF ship, in my G7 it says I am reaching 25 bps, when I put it on my A1 I can noticably hear it shooting faster...So guys, I am sure the A1 can shoot what it says it can, ask an MT, or ask Trigganometry on here, he knows the deal or even ask Bob.

I don't know if I am misinturperating what your saying, nut, there is no way an A! will only shoot 13 bps, I think it is the user's fingers not moving fast..

And when I say 25, I am not ramping, I shoot only in Semi!!

Bleda
12-08-2006, 02:24 PM
And when I say 25, I am not ramping, I shoot only in Semi!!

With huge bounce then cause it is physically imposible to shoot 25 with out bounce/ramping lol

LI_Angel1
12-08-2006, 02:27 PM
No Ramping Only Semi

IlovemyA1
12-08-2006, 04:08 PM
A1 a dur

BustA
12-08-2006, 04:46 PM
Li if you are shooting a true 25 bps in semi, please share your settings and how you achieved this rate.

Spade
12-08-2006, 06:20 PM
yes please share the settings

thatguy!
12-08-2006, 06:38 PM
Guys, all I know is with my pulse hopper, without the RF ship, in my G7 it says I am reaching 25 bps, when I put it on my A1 I can noticably hear it shooting faster...So guys, I am sure the A1 can shoot what it says it can, ask an MT, or ask Trigganometry on here, he knows the deal or even ask Bob.

I don't know if I am misinturperating what your saying, nut, there is no way an A! will only shoot 13 bps, I think it is the user's fingers not moving fast..

And when I say 25, I am not ramping, I shoot only in Semi!!

LCD screens are not accuarate at all. I have hit XX BPS in TR2 semi. It was not even 15 real life BPS.

I never said an A1 would do only 13, nor any angel for that matter. What I said, quite clearly, was that the chronos at my field DO NOT PICK ANYTHING UP ABOVE 13 BPS! Jeez, I didn't think it was that hard to figure out.

To mr 33 bps: I'm sure your A1 is fast, but 33? No. Upper 20s? Probably not. Mid 20s? Maybe. Low to mid 20s? Probably.

Spade
12-08-2006, 11:31 PM
dude I can hit 26 bps with a 06 Spyder Electra so I'm sure an angel can get over that

eddieme2u
12-08-2006, 11:33 PM
wow, spyders have sure come along way....got vid?

BAKERmancan
12-09-2006, 06:59 PM
dude I can hit 26 bps with a 06 Spyder Electra so I'm sure an angel can get over that

HHAhAhahahhahahhA

sorry ...but yeah right

Spade
12-09-2006, 07:33 PM
HHAhAhahahhahahhA

sorry ...but yeah right

lol I get the same response from people until I send ropes there way, don't let the Kingman name fool you. ill post my video

Bleda
12-10-2006, 01:41 PM
To mr 33 bps: I'm sure your A1 is fast, but 33? No. Upper 20s? Probably not. Mid 20s? Maybe. Low to mid 20s? Probably.

I've pact timered to 28 avg shooting on a cheetah with streaks into the low 30's. The only limiting factor was hopper speed.

thatguy!
12-10-2006, 06:01 PM
Proof is always in short supply.

Shooters~SOBA
12-10-2006, 06:50 PM
lol I get the same response from people until I send ropes there way, don't let the Kingman name fool you. ill post my video
i cannot wait to see this... why did my other post get deleted?

AngelAllStar17
12-22-2006, 06:45 AM
Hey guys I got a graphite G7 and was wondering whether I should get a luck barrel or Dye and what Lenght, plus Its hard to find them in the color graphite anyone willing to sell one or know a good online store? and which one a tadao board or predator board?

Thanx in advance

LI_Angel1
12-22-2006, 10:02 AM
Go with a sly kit

JeffW
12-22-2006, 10:33 AM
Hey guys I got a graphite G7 and was wondering whether I should get a luck barrel or Dye and what Lenght, plus Its hard to find them in the color graphite anyone willing to sell one or know a good online store? and which one a tadao board or predator board?

Thanx in advance

Tadao. I had both in my G7 Fly.