darn sensi

[Franks]

today i was at practice and my sensi keeps failing on me, i was shooting slush the whole time, now i know what u guys are gonna say, get it fly converted i will but i was just wondering u think it might be the new fly lowrise feedneck that i got that might be the problem? i mean cuz the stock feedneck on the a4 has these plastic things that keeps the balls from coming back up the neck and i noticed that if i drop a ball in the a4 stock neck it doesnt fall all the way down the plastic stops it i gotta push it with my finger, so maybe that softens the pressure from the halo onto the sensi?? im thinking that since the fly feedneck doesnt have that its good for guns with eyes? b/c lately i have been going through sensi alot that was my 4th one and i never had a problem with my sensi, hell i even thought i dont need eyes this sensi works great... :/

[for2nato]

i had a clamper on my ir3 and never had a problem with my sensi going out. i can tell you this. a halo will damage the sensi pad. i always used my evo2 and it worked fine. i had 2 freinds that used they're halos and both of them damaged the sensi. they switched to an evo and never had the problem again. so its my guess that you are using a halo?

[xxmjumpman23xx]

i dont think it is the feedneck, a lowrise is supposed to work fine, the halo could have damaged your sensi pad, its a lot less of a hassle if you get if fly'd but i all depends on if u have the $$$, my halo worked fine w/ me sensi but for a lot of people the sensi breaks...

[Franks]

yeah me too when i first got my angel and halo i never had a problem but recently i have been going through sensi like nothing, so your suggestion is either get an egg with z-board or get my angel flyed??

[xxmjumpman23xx]

yeah me too when i first got my angel and halo i never had a problem but recently i have been going through sensi like nothing, so your suggestion is either get an egg with z-board or get my angel flyed??

ya people have had success w/ the egg, i got mine fly'd in August and I have gone through 9 cases with NO chops

[AlmightyRuler]

I would definatly recommend getting it Fly'd. It will make your gun cycle faster, more consistantly, more reliably, with no chops & with a force-feed hopper like a Halo or whatnot, you will have a much more durable set-up & see a noticable improvement in performance.

[for2nato]

economically getting your marker fly'd would not be very smart. you could sell your marker and buy an a4 fly for $400 or less. you would still come out cheaper than sending your marker in and paying to have it fly'd. your best bet is to just sell your halo and buy an evo. youll put money in your pocket and fix your problem at the same time. and the evo is a forcefeed loader. its just a little bit more forgiving than the halo, and also more reliable by far. thats my honest opoinion. and i own 4 angels 2 halos and an evo.

[Franks]

its just that i have always been scared that the feedneck on the evo might break, cuz i had a revy and the neck on that thing snapped off and ever since that i havent really trusted the durability on VL loaders.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

the new egg is out (evolution III) and it has many improvements over the old egg and now feeds at 23 bps! same as a stock halo

[for2nato]

do you meen the vlocity?
i have had an evo for 2 years and i played woodsball with it for a solid year every weekend and then speedball for 5 months off and on. and i have the same shells and raceway that came with it on it. i could probably get another 2 years out of it. in all honestly i have replaced the shells on my halo once and my reloader once already and i have only had them for about a year. they get stuck on the marker and break when i pull it off. damn oring feedneck!! for the money you cant beat the evo2. and with a z board you can pull an honest 17bps. which happens to be over the psp limit. so it should work fine.
ultimately its your decision what you do with your marker. im just trying to offer an economical fix to the problem you asked about. i mean were not all doctors or lawers right?..... right? god i hope im not the only poor guy on this forum!

[xxmjumpman23xx]

no i dont mean the Vlocity, the new eVlution III is out
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/4854/
rated at 23bps as u can see

[AlmightyRuler]

The "Egg 3" is the same as the Egg 2, but with a Z-Board stock.

[for2nato]

oh ok

[Franks]

i got back from the nppl in L.A. and the sensi was still giving me problems like it would shoot stop then start shooting again over and over. i took it to the angel tech several times and they say its the sensi. the techs did something to the mini reg and now i cant higher the velocity its stuck at like 230. i dont know if i should send it in to get flyed or sell it and get a Angel1.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

i got back from the nppl in L.A. and the sensi was still giving me problems like it would shoot stop then start shooting again over and over. i took it to the angel tech several times and they say its the sensi. the techs did something to the mini reg and now i cant higher the velocity its stuck at like 230. i dont know if i should send it in to get flyed or sell it and get a Angel1.

if you sold it for an angel 1 you could only get like $300-$350ish for it, which means you would have to spend $900 for the A1, the most cost-effective option would be to sell it for around $300 and buy an A4 fly for like $400-$450

[Franks]

and if i get it flyed it will cost me $399 to do it b/c i have a 04speed board, so its all about the same price wise. i guess it's up to me to decide what to get.

[soulexistance]

I think your best bet is to keep the a4 and get the conversion, I have a a4 , and ive been looking at the pics of guns for sale, they look pretty beat to crap. In my mind keeping my gun and fly converting it puts me ahead than having a beat to shizat a4 fly, my gun is in mint shape. I use a halo v35 and keep sensi's on hand . But thats what you need to do if you plan on ripping over 23 with your a4, and the sensi. Even thou a evolution 3 is 23 bps thats only from the hopper, through the gun your probley lucky to get 21 or 22 maybe, when its new. My sensi's are almost gone so im sending it in for the conversion. I ordered 3 once i learned of the issue.






"Sending ropes from the 50"

[xxmjumpman23xx]

I think your best bet is to keep the a4 and get the conversion, I have a a4 , and ive been looking at the pics of guns for sale, they look pretty beat to crap. In my mind keeping my gun and fly converting it puts me ahead than having a beat to shizat a4 fly, my gun is in mint shape. I use a halo v35 and keep sensi's on hand . But thats what you need to do if you plan on ripping over 23 with your a4, and the sensi. Even thou a evolution 3 is 23 bps thats only from the hopper, through the gun your probley lucky to get 21 or 22 maybe, when its new. My sensi's are almost gone so im sending it in for the conversion. I ordered 3 once i learned of the issue.





"Sending ropes from the 50"

what the hell are u talking about? A lot of the A4 flys sold on AOG are in mint shape, and more will be added and there's also other sites, its stupid to spend $399 on the conversion when you can just sell your A4 for $300 and spend an extra $150 to get a mint A4 fly, unless you are really attached to your gun (like I was) get an A4 fly

Examples of mint flys for sale on AOG (click link not copy and paste)

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?p=543171#post543171

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?p=543171#post543171

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=60490

Franks you could also get an 05 speed since you dont seem to care for the LCD (you have a euro board in your A4), there are plenty of 05 speeds on here and I shoot my friend's all the time I love the trigger on it, they sell for around the same price as an A4 fly

Of course, if you have the money, A1 is king lol

[soulexistance]

Well actually its 300 to convert a a4 to A4fly its 399 for lcd to fly including lazer eyes free normally 45 , with a gun cleaning included noramlly 65 just for that service, and a fly board which is about 150-200 new, but you trade your old one in for that price.


And I would kick my self in the ass for selling a gun i bought for 1000 (with empire barrel kit) with only 60k trigger pulls for 300. Ill keep my gun the fade is perfect, no scratches, or blemishes and if your gun is in the same shape why sell it, just up it...


and yes well i guess im very partial to my angel..ive shoved it in several peoples faces.... LOL =) no reason to pawn it off for 300, thats way to damn cheap, thats a good buy for anyone who wants one. No not mine.




UP IT OR BUY NEW SENSI'S, dont wholesale it


A4 black to blue fade
Halo v35
Empire pipe kit
4500 c.f. stubi

[soulexistance]

LOL you got a point 695 for a angel force with gold plating and home made plastice grips is one hell of a sweet deal that gun looks mint, or 1500 for a a4 fly


come on, you fly'd yours. You know its the right thing to do, and they get it all set up.

[for2nato]

just to add a little here. i just bought a joy a4fly in great shape that only needed a new set of eyes for $350 shipped. and its not all beat to §§§§. it would cost you $400 to get it fly'd and thats pretty much all you will ever get out of a gun thats been retro fitted with eyes anyway. so its a wash. the only reason you should even think about waisting your money getting the retro done is if you are very attached to your marker. but if your just looking to drop $400 then keep your marker and buy a fly too. then you have both! i dont know about any of you guys but that makes a whole bunch of sense to me.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

the link I gave of the force fly and the red to black fly were 500 each and they are mint, not 1500, and it would cost him 399 not 299 because he has the 04 speed euro board. you know your argument that "all the flys are beat to §§§§" is BS lol, ther are ones in good shape on here-

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthre...171#post543171

and there are other ones too, just too lazy to look

And i also mentioned the 05 speed, great trigger and really fast, and there are a ton of mint ones on AOG and they sell for $4-500

[for2nato]

i agree. i have an 05 speed also and its smaller and a little lighter than the a4fly and uses the same platform. its a great marker. the retro to the older angels is a great mod, so dont take it the wrong way. but the fact is that the upgrade is no longer economically practical. when it was still $600 for a fly it was easy to justify spending $300-$400 to make your marker perform like the fly. but lets face it, when the cost to retro is the same as the cost to buy another marker that you are basically copying by having it done. i think that only a person with poor descision making skills would pay for the upgrade.

$400 = 1. great marker with eyes.....
or
$400 = 1. great marker with sensi + 1. great marker with eyes
its not rocket science

[xxmjumpman23xx]

i agree. i have an 05 speed also and its smaller and a little lighter than the a4fly and uses the same platform. its a great marker. the retro to the older angels is a great mod, so dont take it the wrong way. but the fact is that the upgrade is no longer economically practical. when it was still $600 for a fly it was easy to justify spending $300-$400 to make your marker perform like the fly. but lets face it, when the cost to retro is the same as the cost to buy another marker that you are basically copying by having it done. i think that only a person with poor descision making skills would pay for the upgrade.

$400 = 1. great marker with eyes.....
or
$400 = 1. great marker with sensi + 1. great marker with eyes
its not rocket science

I wouldnt say the 05 speed is smaller and lighter, I use my friend's 05 speed all the time and fly/speed05 feel about the same, but your points are right on, i agree with everything else u say its defintely not economically practical to pay for the fly conversion.

[Franks]

damn now i wanna get a a4fly, i got a ultralite barrel and g7 grips on my a4 can i put them on the a4fly, lol i know its a stupid question but i gotta be 100% sure before i take any action. and yeah im a little attached to my a4 but im sure ill get over it...by the way im looking to buy a black/red fade A4Fly it would be awsome if you guys can help me find one for a good price :D

[for2nato]

grips and barrel are a match for all angels pre 06

[xxmjumpman23xx]

damn now i wanna get a a4fly, i got a ultralite barrel and g7 grips on my a4 can i put them on the a4fly, lol i know its a stupid question but i gotta be 100% sure before i take any action. and yeah im a little attached to my a4 but im sure ill get over it...by the way im looking to buy a black/red fade A4Fly it would be awsome if you guys can help me find one for a good price :D

you are in luck, a mint black to red one was posted just yesterday

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=61287

[for2nato]

just wanted to prove a point here. this is a very pretty fly'd a4 for $400-450

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=61263
that red to black is sexy!

[xxmjumpman23xx]

just wanted to prove a point here. this is a very pretty fly'd a4 for $400-450

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=61263
that red to black is sexy!

that fly'd A4 is basically what my gun looks like

the mint red to black link that I posted i also sexy as for2nato said

[Franks]

you are in luck, a mint black to red one was posted just yesterday

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=61287

yeah i saw that yesterday thanks you guys. now come to think of it i have done §§§§ to my gun to make it amazing, like i self-customized the leafspring on the board to make it very light and had a magnetic trigger put on it, i have become quiet attached to my gun. im basically looking to get a gun with eyes so im thinking it would be best to just get it fly'd. sorry to waste your time guys.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

yeah i saw that yesterday thanks you guys. now come to think of it i have done §§§§ to my gun to make it amazing, like i self-customized the leafspring on the board to make it very light and had a magnetic trigger put on it, i have become quiet attached to my gun. im basically looking to get a gun with eyes so im thinking it would be best to just get it fly'd. sorry to waste your time guys.

cool, the conversion is great too, send it to Bob at FMA he does an amazing job

edit: Bob is in Cali where I am you live in NY so I would sent it to Ken (Mass.), he also does great work

[Franks]

i would rather send it to bob if thats ok :D

[xxmjumpman23xx]

i would rather send it to bob if thats ok :D

no problem :)

[Franks]

oh, im in kinda a different situation than other fly conversion customers, u see i cut off the leafspring of my speed04 board and taped and glued it to my slayer trigger to make it like the angel 05speed trigger if u guys have ever seen it. so i was wondering if that would be a problem when im getting my angel fly'd?? the trigger feels amazing by the way lol.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

oh, im in kinda a different situation than other fly conversion customers, u see i cut off the leafspring of my speed04 board and taped and glued it to my slayer trigger to make it like the angel 05speed trigger if u guys have ever seen it. so i was wondering if that would be a problem when im getting my angel fly'd?? the trigger feels amazing by the way lol.

they switch out the board for a fly board, so no it wouldnt be a problem