Rich and The Famous...

[TopCourage]

oh man...u gotta love how the celebrities in hollywood use there power to shoot down the war with Iraq...half the time they dont even know what they are talking about....a good percentage of them are completely unpatriotic, it is unbeleivable....they think they are friggen politicians and generals but really they are dumber than a box of rocks....thats why i think, movie stars suck...thats just my opinion...

[Gary1]

Knowledge without wisdom is double folly. Power without control is reckless. Celebs without a camera to stand in front of are...well...put it this way...their crap stinks just as bad as every one elses.

[b4d_455_baller]

when i saw the title, i thought this thread was about Good Charolette :|
......but yes, celebs are not all that brite ..i saw on some show on T.V. where this guy was talking about credentials..he read off this huge list of places where certain key politicians have graduated from..then when he got to the celebs credentials, all he read off was like "dropped out of high school", "high school graduate", "dropped out" etc..it was really funny
L8ER!

[The_Rooster]

Don't complain about do something like just not go to there movies they will learn quick.

[Gary1]

Ask any former Dixie Chicks fan....

[TopCourage]

those are all great points...see i dont mind the ones that are opposed to it..but the ones that shoot off their mouth about it every chance they are the ones that piss me off...

also...Good Charlottes' song "Lifestyles of The Rich and The Famous" is a great song and they do point out alot of dumb things that movie stars do....that song actually influenced the name of this post...

[Jedrith]

Its odd, the people that matter most in this country (USA) usually get paid the least, teachers, construction workers, doctors im gonna say because they get their asses sued alot. On the other hand, celebs, with no education, normally, make millions upon millions of dollars for movies and TV, which are only for entertainment purposes, which are not REALLY important for society. Athletes are the same way, but most went to college, even though to play their sport.

[wdp child]

Originally posted by Jedrith
Its odd, the people that matter most in this country (USA) usually get paid the least, teachers, construction workers, doctors im gonna say because they get their asses sued alot. On the other hand, celebs, with no education, normally, make millions upon millions of dollars for movies and TV, which are only for entertainment purposes, which are not REALLY important for society. Athletes are the same way, but most went to college, even though to play their sport.

How can you say they arn't important? They help make the country what it is. They are a product of what this country was build for and about and they help our economy with all the exports they send out. They have helped our country grow to what it is today. And some of them may not be the brightest bulb in the box but they have just as valid an opinion as you do. Maby you should just look at it their way and see what they are trying to say one time.......you may agree.

[TopCourage]

not all of them are bad...ill give u that...and yes, they are an important part of the U.S., hell, if we didnt have them, it would be very boring...but i dont think they need to be overusing their popularity to shoot down the president and show complete ignorance towards the U.S.A.

[Jedrith]

Who was that dumbass that flamed bush at the grammys?

[SkeL]

Michael Moore, he won an oscar for best documentary. "Bowling for Columbine." It's an awesome movie, I highly recommend watching it. It really ticks me off how he acted on stage. Kinda makes you want to slap him. True, it is his right to voice his opinion, but what good did it do? It just made him look like a complete moron. His movie is good though! -Skel

[TopCourage]

yeah....that guy made a complete ass out of himself...im not going to go watch his movie.....i never even knew who he was before he did that.....made a bad first impression on me...

[thog94]

Someone sent this to me a while ago. I edited it for length, but it's worth the read. E-mail me if you want the full story

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid," "morons," and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from
Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998
winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and
Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to WWW.SNOPES.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President **** Cheney earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A.
in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell was educated in the New York
City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator ; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77;
Secretary of Defense, 1975-77

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge was raised in a
working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The ****inson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District
Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice earned her
Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the
University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary
Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and
Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences
in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.
From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs
fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special
Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender--Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame,the International Advisory
Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such
organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for SanFrancisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What
is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school. Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing
and acting

Martin Sheen Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.
Career: Acting

Jessica Lange Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career:
Acting

Alec Baldwin Dropped out of George Washington U. after
scandal. Career: Acting

Julia Roberts Completed high school. Career: Acting

Sean Penn Completed High school. Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of
America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner: Completed High school. Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky.
Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of
Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

Janeane Garofalo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up
comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career:
Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two
groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations,
our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no
fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country.