How bad is HP?

[smrtprts]

I have a HP Crossfire tank and I am wondering how bad it would be for a G7? It has a volumizer so I am wondering if it is worth trading my tank for a LP one?

[Definethegreatline]

well, i know that you definatly should have a low pressure tank for the g7, since it operates at a low pressure. but im kinda a noob around here, so any1 else have an input?

[for2nato]

hp will work without a problem on your g7. lp will just give you a more consistant shot.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

of you can trade your tank i think its worth it, but it wont damage your gun so air it up with the HP crossy and see how it works for ya (although i warn you its a hit and miss kind of thing some poeple can get their velocity below 300 fps and some cant, so you might want to do it at home so you arent stuck using a rental/backup at the field because your HP tank wont work lol)

[smrtprts]

haha yeah I will do that. I have to wait to get it (next week) then I have some major work to do on it.

New eyes
Lube and clean all of gun
Tube it all

I will be asking many more questions so get ready guys :)

I dont think it would be worth it to trade for a LP tank incase I ended up trading unless I have to so I will wait to test it then.

[Trigga Nometry]

I will be asking many more questions so get ready guys :)That is what we are all here for so ask away lol.

[smrtprts]

lol I bet. I dont have the gun yet so I dont know the questions but would I manage with takeing the gun apart, cleaning, lubeing everything, installing eyes and tuneing it? Is there anything besides the manual that will show me how to do it such as pics or video? Also is there a link that shows what to lube?

[Trigga Nometry]

Follow the manual for the oiling and lubing intervals. I cannot remember what they are off the top of my head.

Basically, you only use a couple drops of oil in the Angel and dry fire to let it cycle the oil throughout the Angel. Then you wipe the bolt clean. You never want to oil the bolt because it is not needed and oil on the oil will cause it to swell.

For the lube, you want to lightly grease all the o-rings that you'll see in the manual pics. Just a very light layer on grase on the orings and you'll be set.

[smrtprts]

In the manual was it page 12 that shows the orings to lube? I know for a fact the gasket below the noid' needs to be lubed but I didnt see where it was in the manual?

Oil - ASA few drops then dry fire
Lube - All of the orings pictured in the manual.
Tuneing - HPR for velocity. That all?

Still not quite sure what to do for the eyes though...

[Definethegreatline]

i have a quick question. i need to oil and lube, but on my previous marker (tippmann a-5) all i did was oil all of the orings, but i see i need to grease then on the angel. so what do i oil, before i dry fire? thanks

[smrtprts]

Please refrain from hijacking threads in the future. If you had just read my posts you would have seen that I already asked that.

[Definethegreatline]

im sorry man. i was just reemphasizing what you said. i think it would be kinda stupid to go create another forum asking the same thing. again, im sorry, i didnt know you were gonna get all pissed at me for tryin to help get an answer.

[smrtprts]

I am not pissed, at all. I didn't know you had read the thread and were emphasizing it.. no worries.

[for2nato]

definethegreatline, dont worry. you didnt do anything wrong. with a name like smrtprts, hes probably just touchy about everything being his. im supprised he hasnt tried to submit a copywrite on this thread. lol
just kiding man. smrtprts chill out hes just lookin for answers, just like you are. and for the same thing too. and as for your eyes, just buy a new set and install them. its not rocket science. the manual shows a complete break down of the marker. its very intuitive.

[smrtprts]

Did you see my post above yours? I dont know how I could be anymore clear about telling him I am not pissed at all and he understood me wrong.

[wolfram075]

eh whatever its all good...we aint pbnation...lol... next question please ;)

[smrtprts]

In the manual was it page 12 that shows the orings to lube? I know for a fact the gasket below the noid' needs to be lubed but I didnt see where it was in the manual?

Oil - ASA few drops then dry fire
Lube - All of the orings pictured in the manual.
Tuneing - HPR for velocity. That all?

Still not quite sure what to do for the eyes though...

Wolf is right. Still waiting for that question, nato just said its in the manual and isnt rocket science, which I already knew, I just dont know where it is in the manual.

[Definethegreatline]

arite you guys, just chill out, lol. didnt mean to start anything. so back to the issue, what do we lube and oil again? because, like smart parts i cant find it in the manual either. (sorry for stealin your post again, just tryin to get an answer like you)

[smrtprts]

I think it mught be page 12, but there arent many orings there and there definitely are more to lube also. For oil, put 1 or 2 drops in the ASA then dry fire.

[wolfram075]

pages 17-21 cut away views shows u all the pics... manual states as folows:

The ANGEL should only be cleaned
externally using a synthetic oil moistened
cloth. Under no circumstances should you
use hydrocarbon based oils, as these will
cause irrevocable damage to the internal
seals, e.g.: WD40, Vaseline, Duck Oil,
Engine oil, Plus Gas, 3in1. The suitable oil
is Angel Love Juice Oil.
The ram shaft and internal parts that are
accessible during disassembly and
re-assembly should be lubricated with
Angel Love Juice Extreme Grease.
The frequency of lubrication should be
every event or at least 8000 shots for oil
lubrication and 20,000 shots for grease
lubrication. The ANGEL should never be
immersed into water otherwise damage
may occur to the electronics.
Ensure correct tools are used.

[smrtprts]

Thats what I was lookin for.

Whats is the verneir trigger wheel do anyways?

What is the best way to dissamble the gun? Where to start etc.

[for2nato]

naw that wasnt up when i posted. the page was up on my screen for a while befor i posted. anyways i was just jokin about the smartparts thing. you know how they copywrited the basic electronic frame and screwed all other companies in the world. stupid judge. but anyway thats another thread. hope you get your eyes fixed. it shouldnt be too hard.

[smrtprts]

Alrighty thanks.

[for2nato]

heres a simple rule of thumb. every 2-3 cases just put a couple (2-3) drops of oil in the asa and dry fire. then remove and wipe the bolt clean.
every 5-6 cases remove the minireg, ram, and lpr and clean and re-rease the orings on them then reinstall them. this is pretty much all you have to do to maintain your angel. if its not leaking, then dont go breakin down the whole marker to lube everything. if you do the above mentioned you shouldnt have any major problems.
on a side note, i have owned 5 angels and have never had any problems. my markers always work and never let me down. im to the point where i dont even take a backup marker to the field with me. that is why i will never shoot anything but an angel.
remember.... if it aint broke, dont fix it!
hope this helps you guys.

[wolfram075]

wow i just realized that im an idiot... that was the post from the A1 manual.. but its the same for g7 just dif page#s...sorry if i confused you...

[Jon_G7]

thank you for2nato, your post certainly aswered a couple of my lube'ing questions :)

[smrtprts]

Yeah Nato, it is leaking from the noid and I was told that I need to lube the gasket under the noid, correct?

hehe, no problem wolf.

[wolfram075]

yes- thin layer of love grease and make sure the gasket to noid to gun orientation is set properly...its easy to miss seat them if u dont pay attention

[smrtprts]

Would someone be willing to make a video or walk through with pics on how to dissamble and reassemble the G7?

[wolfram075]

sold that gun to get the a1...(only alowed 2 guns at once till im a pro...ha ha wifes rules...) and im not givin up my old impy..come on sn00666...ha ha

[smrtprts]

lol, better go pro soon...

[wolfram075]

ha ha...not likely...im still wading in the kiddie pool ie div3 xball...lol and im close to 30 yo...lol

[smrtprts]

haha well, good luck to ya.

[Definethegreatline]

arite, so yes, that video would be helpful, but i do have a quick question and im gonna fell like a newb asking it, but here i go. u said put a few drops in the asa? the asa is the place where you screw the tank in rite? and if thats the case, the instructions on my tank say to keep oil, dirt, and other cleaning solutions from the opening that you screw your marker into, on the reg of your tank. so what should i do? or am i just wrong about the asa?

[smrtprts]

Yes, thats the ASA. There are holes IN the ASA that you want to put the oil into, not just the base of the ASA. Once they go into the holes, dry fire and it will work the oil through out the gun.

[wolfram075]

that or you could pop the macro line off either side and put the oil in there.

[Shooters~SOBA]

anyway.... for marker lube i would highly reccomend dow35, very good lube for o-rings and such.

[Shooters~SOBA]

that or you could pop the macro line off either side and put the oil in there.
you should only do that on a brand new marker or if it hasent been used lubed in a long while, and for this use the love juce that comes with all angels.

[Definethegreatline]

aright, after all this talk, when it comes down to disassembling the marker, i should put dow35 or love juice on the orings, in the ram, and all other interanl parts of the angel?

[Shooters~SOBA]

not nessicarly all internal parts, Dow35 on o-rings and love juce into your macroline to dry-fire (only on a new marker) but if it really needs a run through or a lubing send it to one of the MT's.

[smrtprts]

You keep saying MT's, I am not sure what that means?

Also I see you play at parc, I used to too, fun place.

[Shooters~SOBA]

WDP Master Techs, fixmyangel.com or performanceangel.com, people who know angels like the back of they're hand.

[smrtprts]

Those services can get very pricey though. I could find someone on PBN to do it for tons cheaper.

[Shooters~SOBA]

thats true but with the MT's you know for sure that the job will get done well ,you dont really know that the guy you send your gun into on PBN will do good work or steal it for that matter., and besides a new gun shouldent need very much work at all, just when you first get it air it up take off your macroline put a few drops of love juce in it put the macroline back on dry fire it, wipe off your bolt. and it will be just fine, as for the o-rings especially on a new gun they should be just fine so dont worry about that unless you are experiencing a leak or somthing

[smrtprts]

Well actually its not new, and its in very rough condition. All of the wires in th back plate are very messed up and I need to take it apart to get my dad to resoldier them back on. I am not sure exactly how to do it, could you maybe walk me through on AIM?

Edit - Can I just pull the battery out without hurting any wires?

[Shooters~SOBA]

heres what i reccomend you do, talk to an MT, tell him everything you notice on your gun and see what he says, your best option i think would be to send it in to them to do a run through on your gun, lube and check everything and set it up. (very difficult to tell u what to do over the internet, sry.) and btw dude its really not that expensice and it will b worth the money you pay to keep your gun in working condition.

[smrtprts]

Email them? Do you know it? every time i try to email them it wont let me.

[Shooters~SOBA]

go to one of the sites and look for a phone #. performanceangel.com or fixmyangel.com that or we can hope to god that one of them takes a look at this thread *hint hint, wink wink, cough cough* now with that said i just took a look at your other thread, you need to buy parts too.