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sigma steve
10-02-2006, 09:15 PM
I have heard before that you should not have your A1 anno'd. I was wondering if Ken or someone knowledgable about this could give me some info as to if this is true or not and what is the reasoning.
BustA
10-02-2006, 09:17 PM
I know for a fact that it is true, but maybe a MT can give a better explanation as to why...
RevBubba
10-02-2006, 10:15 PM
I am not sure the reason for the "not annodizing the A1" but other with some other markers it comes down to tolerences when stripping old anno.
KEN CRANE
10-03-2006, 09:04 AM
I have heard before that you should not have your A1 anno'd. I was wondering if Ken or someone knowledgable about this could give me some info as to if this is true or not and what is the reasoning.
as of right now we are recomending that you not anno an a1. tolerances are still being determined and this comes from the top !
VenemoussC
10-03-2006, 11:15 AM
I read somewhere straight from WDP the reasoning was (Ken Crane please correct me if i am wrong, as i am not sure how reliable the source was) but the reasoning was the milling is already very thin compared to most guns, and most anodizing jobs have to shave a little of your exterior off, it's what i heard =/
Bleda
10-03-2006, 11:43 AM
as of right now we are recomending that you not anno an a1. tolerances are still being determined and this comes from the top !
Thanks Ken, can you keep us informed of any changes on this policy? I have a kicking anno scheme all drawn up I've just been waiting to see if its possible or not on the A1 before I screw it up.
sigma steve
10-03-2006, 06:59 PM
Thanks Ken. Give me an update whenever you get one if I cant get it out of Owen first :)
angel1013
10-06-2006, 08:31 PM
if it does break wouldnt the company re-emburse ( sp?) you for the a1?
VenemoussC
10-07-2006, 02:25 PM
Probably not, i would assume you would have to accept some agreeance policy of them doing it.
KEN CRANE
10-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Probably not, i would assume you would have to accept some agreeance policy of them doing it.
lol, nope it works like this. you reanno it, ruin it you become §§§§ out of luck....
VenemoussC
10-08-2006, 06:31 PM
So whomever ruins it would become liable?
tgallo
10-08-2006, 06:32 PM
heavy sigh
sigma steve
10-08-2006, 08:32 PM
So whomever ruins it would become liable?
As long as you dont sign any type of waiver then you they should return it in the same condition you sent it in. If you are worried about it then you can pay the extra to have them disassemble it and reassemble it.
wolfram075
10-10-2006, 07:14 AM
hgrobets-guess not...ha ha ha LOL
reptilejd9
10-10-2006, 08:48 AM
heres how the process works, if they just re-annoed it, there would be an extra layer of anno on it, so the bolt/ram and everything else wont fit, so before they re do it, they dip it in acid to take the last layer off, than they redo it, and add the layer of anno, but if they dont do it exactly rite, either the acid makes it to thin, or not thin enough, you're screwed, and you have a $1,200 p.o.s. your best bet if you want to try to re-anno is to buy a fresh body, so if it gets messed up, u still have your old one.
-AAPB-Eric
10-10-2006, 04:28 PM
Im an anodizer and many have told me in the past angels should not be done due to the thin walls. Im not sure about an A1, but a G7fly, 04 speed Ive done with no problems.
The end result is, anodizing typically changes tolerances by 1/1000th of an inch. Get a rookie anodizer and if the A1 walls are thin then your playing Russian Roullete. Again, if you choose a good anodizer you wont have problems with the thicknesses of the ano layer being redone too thin.
As for warentee, unless the anodizer makes a major mistake like forgetting a critical part in the stripper this is a void of warentee procedure and it should be know as taking a risk on the customers behalf. Normally these problems are rare rather than common. If the A1 is close to G7 fly thicknesses you will be fine.
Pics of the two:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2711/sidegunresizeub3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8413/7371rastasev9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
caples69
10-10-2006, 04:46 PM
Nice
KEN CRANE
10-10-2006, 10:33 PM
Im an anodizer and many have told me in the past angels should not be done due to the thin walls. Im not sure about an A1, but a G7fly, 04 speed Ive done with no problems.
The end result is, anodizing typically changes tolerances by 1/1000th of an inch. Get a rookie anodizer and if the A1 walls are thin then your playing Russian Roullete. Again, if you choose a good anodizer you wont have problems with the thicknesses of the ano layer being redone too thin.
As for warentee, unless the anodizer makes a major mistake like forgetting a critical part in the stripper this is a void of warentee procedure and it should be know as taking a risk on the customers behalf. Normally these problems are rare rather than common. If the A1 is close to G7 fly thicknesses you will be fine.
Pics of the two:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2711/sidegunresizeub3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8413/7371rastasev9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
very nice anno. but as i have indicated, dont re anno the a1. replacment bodies are not aval. at this time. we normaly dont say stuff like this unless there is a reason and there is. all past angel bodies were done much differently than they are now and this is a new platform. all past angels were never a problem to reanno. i would suggest anyone reading this heed the suggestion.
Talon
10-11-2006, 09:02 AM
At some point will A1 bodies, frames, regs, and other body hardware be available without anodizing?
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