MidWest AOG team for Chi-town PSP

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Who is interested in getting a MidWest AOG team together for Chicago PSP D3 Xball next year? If we all meet maybe once a month every month to practice together that would be good enough.

Let me know who is interested and who has money. Maybe we could get AOG to hook us up with some AOG jerseys(ie Long Sleeve Shirts with AOG logo on them)

[number73forlife]

Quoting the AOG admin:

I'm down with you guys putting together an all AOG team, the only thing i ask is if you plan to attend national events and use the name I'd like to know about it.

We dont usually let people use the site name as their team name but if they reall want to theres not much we can do to stop that. Most people ask and we say we dont like people using it and they are ok with that and choose soemthing else.

Its not a big deal either if you already have a team name and if everyone is from teh site tack on an -AOG just to kind of let people know.

[Crazy99]

I would do it but, I need a job first to have the money for xball then I will do it

[dodgeballers_ia]

Our team, the Dodge Ballers, are planning to play there but we're in central Iowa so practicing with you guys would be a hell of a commute. Good luck with your venture! ANGEL OWNERS UNITE!!

[Engus]

I wouldnt be playing with you guys (too far to go once a month to practice, and im just starting a rookie this year), but i think me and some friends will be roadtripping to watch PSP in chicago next year. So Ill be there to cheer you on!

[p8ntballerff]

I might be able to do something. I have never played tournaments before though. If you are interested lmk.

[slapshot]

The same goes for my son. If you want to practice at the Badlandz in Chicago once a month, I can get him there. If you are in dire need of players when the PSP comes, then I can join you as well, that's if you don'y mind a 46 year old player !

Slapshot

[Speedy_in_Blue]

doesnt matter who wants to play, even if we play just D4 5man ya know. I know Matt's stand on using the site name, and also the AOG, thats why we would go as MidWest AOG

Let me know who wants to play, you must have PSP ramp on your gun. We will prolly just play D4 5man, cheaper and easier on everyone.

[TheDragonJedi]

Sound like an Idea, I'm In if ya'll have me.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

welcome to MidWest AOG

We just need to get some dates for practice setup, I think it will be easiest once spring comes, if everyone lives close enough to Chicago, we should try to practice there if possible.


Maybe we could look at the possiblity of playing a NPPL D3 event instead, but I think D4 5man will be the cheapest easiest route for everyone.

[TheDragonJedi]

not a problem, I live close to fox, take aim, chicago Paintball (evil and several other big name teams practice there), and the badlandz. My team and I practice every thursday at take aim (indoor) so we will be in pretty good shape until formal practices start for midwest aog. I think jinho and craig wouldn't mind joining either. they're both 30 something.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

age isnt a factor, 5man is a little easier on everyone than Xball

[Speedy_in_Blue]

if we use me, you and your teammates we'll have 4, get prolly 2 more just to have an extra guy there then too and we'll be good to go.

[Shooters~SOBA]

im in colorado and am D2 tournament experienced. practice with such teams as villian,outlaws,fury,altitude. im intrested if you need more players.

[Crazy99]

Got money so count me in on the MidWest AoG TeaM

[TheDragonJedi]

Got money so count me in on the MidWest AoG TeaM

did you make the tournament this last weekend?

[JDemonpbt]

Hey I won't mind either. Its a 6 hour drive for me to Chi-town though, but I might be able to do it once a month.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

alright, well we only need 7 guys unless we wanna play D3 Xball instead, will cost more but we could do that if we get 10 guys

[Crazy99]

if you guys just need some one in the pit or some thing I could do that instead of playing

[Shooters~SOBA]

you probably dont want just anyone to come and play, especially if some of them have never played in a tournament before. (Just a sugestion) and i'd much rather play the PSP circut.

[TheDragonJedi]

That's why there is practice. Some have got to start somewhere when it comes to tourney experience. And from what I gather this would mostly be for fun and getting an AOG crew together to represent.

[JDemonpbt]

I think Div IV would be better to start out with. My hopes are (w/ AOG Ohio) to start different State Chapter teams such as AOG Ohio, AOG California, AOG Flordia, etc... Then have AOG Factory teams from different regions of the country such as Midwest to start playin lower divisons of PSP & NPPL. We can draw from talent from the different State teams to play in the regional teams. Then maybe move people up to higher divisions, and eventually turn some players into PRO's. Thats what I'm hoping for, if eveyone is cool with that.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

yea, sounds good to me. I think D4 5man would be a good idea. If we have enough interest, maybe possible put 2 teams in, it would make it good for practice.


If anyone needs to get ahold of me, we can discuss things more futher.

AIM: PaysForItFuhrman
MSN Messenger: paintballaddict@hotmail.com
Yahoo: jwfuhrman@yahoo.com

[Shooters~SOBA]

in that case count me out, i dont need any practice and i play to win

[TheDragonJedi]

in that case count me out, i dont need any practice and i play to win

Dude, you've got one sour attitude. And it's not just this post, it's your other ones too. stay out of it if you're not contributing in a constructive way that doesn't piss off 20 other people. It's nice you like to play to win, but alot of other people do it for the passion.

[Shooters~SOBA]

okay umm sry i guess, but it sounds as if the only person i pissed off is you, i just wanted to let you know that i wont be showing up to any practices or tournaments, and no offence but if you dont think paying close to 1000 dollars to practice and "have fun" while playing a major tournament circut event, your just dumb.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

lol, wow is all I have to say to you. Grow up, you have one of the worst attitudes on the planet. This is deffinatly a just for fun thing for the MidWest members of Angel Owners to play, and Chicago is the easiest place to do it on a large scale, doesnt bother me any if you dont play, sounds like you think your king §§§§.

[Shooters~SOBA]

lol, well im terribly sorry i pissed so many of you off some how, i didnt mean to but w/e. like i said i just wanted to let you know i wont be joining you. And btw i dont think im the one who needs to grow up if your the one getting all butt hurt over the internet, but it sounds like your just dying to get onto this team thing so i wont spoil your fun anymore, good luck to team AOG.

[TheDragonJedi]

Look at it this way, How many times have you got laid soley based on the fact that you were a local tourney player? Now throw a Nationally Recognized tournament and your chances nearly quadruple!!! How do I know? I don't I just consulted my magic eight ball and it told me so.

Also just because it's for fun doesn't mean I'm not gonna give it my damndest to win so yeah I do want to win it and I will play to win it even if I don't, I did.

and by the way thank you for wishing us good luck, whoever we might end up being.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Look at it this way, How many times have you got laid soley based on the fact that you were a local tourney player? Now throw a Nationally Recognized tournament and your chances nearly quadruple!!! How do I know? I don't I just consulted my magic eight ball and it told me so.

Also just because it's for fun doesn't mean I'm not gonna give it my damndest to win so yeah I do want to win it and I will play to win it even if I don't, I did.



QTF!!!! lol



Also, I have a teammate that shoots a G7, he has an account, just hardly ever is on the internet. He wants to play so I figured we could use him.

So heres what we got so far:

Speedy_in_Blue
TheDragonJedi
speed_scooter

[Shooters~SOBA]

Look at it this way, How many times have you got laid soley based on the fact that you were a local tourney player? Now throw a Nationally Recognized tournament and your chances nearly quadruple!!! How do I know? I don't I just consulted my magic eight ball and it told me so.

Also just because it's for fun doesn't mean I'm not gonna give it my damndest to win so yeah I do want to win it and I will play to win it even if I don't, I did.

and by the way thank you for wishing us good luck, whoever we might end up being. Good point, but im playing the entire NXL Div 2. next season so im not just some local dud trying to get onto a team like some ppl...

[Speedy_in_Blue]

NXL D2 eh.......didnt know it was called the NXL, considering the NXL is a completely SEPERATE entity than the PSP........

[Trigga Nometry]

What is it a full moon tonight?

Guys, chill out. This isn't PBN.

[p8ntballerff]

I posted about this earlier, I live in Elgin and although I have never played a tourney before I have been playing paintball for 9 years now and would have to say I am pretty good. I am completely willing to practice whenever/where ever. My feelings won't be hurt if you aren't interested though.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

sorry Trigga, he went off so I went off, you know how it is. Ill grow up now lol.

Anywho. I might have 3 from here including me interested, one shoots a G7 the other shoots an A1, and I shoot an A1.

In reality we only need 2 more but 3 more would be nice. We can start practicing at Badlandz or something else depending on where everyone lives.

[Trigga Nometry]

Posts deleted. Please stay on topic guys. If you have a problem with someone, contact a mod or an admin or hit the report button to report the post.

Anyway, back to topic...

[Brad7]

Hey, I'm game. Hey Speedy, I live in southern Indiana, about 45mins away from Evansville. PM me if you still have a spot open.

Thanks
Best regards,
--Brad

[Speedy_in_Blue]

probably, Ill let ya know

[darklcdguy]

hey speedy when we gonna practice again at linders but naywho if you need help with like the pits i would be willing to help out because i know im not good enough for a team thats why we should practice some more

[Speedy_in_Blue]

dark - tonight i think

[JDemonpbt]

QTF!!!! lol



Also, I have a teammate that shoots a G7, he has an account, just hardly ever is on the internet. He wants to play so I figured we could use him.

So heres what we got so far:

Speedy_in_Blue
TheDragonJedi
speed_scooter

Like I said, You have me too.

[Brad7]

Hey Speedy, are you currently practicing for PSP Chicago or is that just local practice? You said once a month starting in 2007 right? Let me know if you need another person.

Thanks

[Speedy_in_Blue]

updated roster:

Speedy_in_Blue
TheDragonJedi
speed_scooter
JDemonpbt

[darklcdguy]

speedy i want to practice and help with the team :(

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Perry - we will prolly start practicing at like Chicagoland, maybe even start here this winter once a month.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Also, Im gonna try to get us a deal on like WDP playing gear, that way we can represent in WDP style, maybe even try to get us some custom MidWest AOG jerseys made.

[darklcdguy]

thats cool fuhrman i have money now so whatever works for me

[paintchick79]

I might be interested... a bit strapped for cash at the moment but I've got a steady job (and will for at LEAST the rest of the school year, hopefully through the summer as well) so we'll see. I'm not great either... but I do have 2 years tourney experience under my belt so why don't yall put me down as well. I will let you know well in advance if I don't have the cash to do it, and if I don't play I'd be happy to pit for you guys.

Edit: I'd also be willing to do some kind of logo design for the jerseys

[TheDragonJedi]

Things are looking good now!! Hey, How did your dad do on the Race against Cancer?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

updated roster:

Speedy_in_Blue
TheDragonJedi
speed_scooter
JDemonpbt
paintchick79

[BustA]

i would be in on this...if only i didnt live in minnesota :(

[paintchick79]

Things are looking good now!! Hey, How did your dad do on the Race against Cancer?

I think he placed somewhere in the middle... around 2000th out of 5000? Not entirely sure. AND I forgot to get the damn pictures off my momma's camera before she deleted them or I'd post GAHHHHH!!!!

Thanks for asking though. I think he managed to raise about $6000 ($4500 was required).

[triumph_013]

I think he placed somewhere in the middle... around 2000th out of 5000? Not entirely sure. AND I forgot to get the damn pictures off my momma's camera before she deleted them or I'd post GAHHHHH!!!!

Thanks for asking though. I think he managed to raise about $6000 ($4500 was required).

did you use the little quote thing i came up with?

[paintchick79]

Woohoo! Really looking forward to this hope you guys are too! We should try and set up at least one or two practice dates over the winter just so we can all get a feel for each other and not be completely bleh once we get started in the spring. Perhaps a weekend or 2 in Chicago... if one of you guys who lives down there would be willing to allow some fellow ballers to crash on your floor (hope that wasn't insanely rude...).

Perhaps we should also plan to have practices in more than one place, depending on where everyone lives... there are a few fields up here (I'm from the Madison area of Wisconsin) so we should all try and discuss that.

My other question... would you gentlemen rather get REAL jerseys (we can go with CSG, but there's a 10 jersey minimum, or we can go with animalpaintball, with only a 5 jersey minimum. Both places cost $70 per entirely custom jersey) or just screen printed long sleeved tees. I'd like to get started pretty quickly if you want real ones, as it could take awhile. Other things to consider:

Colors
"Look" (dark? something with the MW skull logo (someone should find out if this is OK for us to use first...)? other?)
Do we want our real last names on the back or our usernames?
DEALS/SPONSORS/ETC! I know of a few teams who got paint deals with Empire... really good paint deals, just by talking to them. If any of you know anything about this, we should get right on that, the cheaper this whole thing is the BETTER!
Other ideas?

I know its early to do this but if we decide to pay $70 for custom jerseys I'd rather them look good than be thrown together the week before.

[paintchick79]

did you use the little quote thing i came up with?

Sure did! He loved it! I'll see if I can't find the shirt, but he might have chucked it out cos it was so smelly :sick:

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Im down for the Custom Real Jerseys, that way, even after Chicago, we still have them to wear and support, and maybe we could sell them to ther Midwest members of AOG that arent playin with us, possibly he;p fund our team in Chicago lol

[BustA]

am i the only one in minnesota?

[paintchick79]

You might be lol...

I'd definitely prefer the custom jerseys, but I don't want to get stuck with a $490 jersey order that no one else pays for, just so we're all clear on that. I've seen it happen... yuck. Let me know your input on what they should look like too... I'll come up with a couple of concepts but yeah... let me know f00ls

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Colors is a deffinate thing first, then idk after that lol

Im a fan of Blue/Black/Grey

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Im likin this design in Blue with like a White MidWest AOG logo of some kind, then names on the back.

http://www.animalpaintball.com/cgi-bin/VirtualCatalog/CatalogMgr.pl?cartID=b-7650&SearchField=partnumber&SearchFor=06000&template=Htx/jersey_semicustom.htx&hdrFile=ssi-customgear.htx

[paintchick79]

Bleh! I don't wanna use something just anyone else can use, lets make something totally new! Blue/Black/Grey sounds good to me for colors though... anyone object?

[JDemonpbt]

I'm totally down with custom Jerseys. IF we go with CSG we could each get two jersey's if we want. As far as color, I"m like you guys and perfer Blue/black/gray. I think it would be cool to have like Angel Wings down each of the sleeves of the jersey, and have the Angel Wings Logo's from WDP on the back of the jersey, w/ the letters "AOG" down between the wings, and then say "Midwest" under them. I also would perfer our real last names on the backs of them as opposed to our screen names. Just My opinion.
As Far as sponsors and factory logo's go, Do we really even have any sponsors? Besides this website, (Which I think we need the site's address printed on the bottom of the jersey's) are we trying for WDP sponsorship? That would be totally Kick A@#.
Paint, well the store my girlfriend owns, sponsored team had a PMI deal through the store. They ended up shooting Ultra Evil, Only avaliable at National Tournaments, and VERY High grade stuff. They shot about 16 cases at Chicago this past summer, and it only costed them around $280 total. SoI suggest we try and do something like that, and I'll even see if my girlfriend will help us out any.
J

[soulexistance]

Still looking for another player? Im in the area and willing to drive

a4
halo b v35
4500 c.f. stubi

[paintchick79]

JDemon: Like all your jersey ideas, except the one involving each of us getting 2 jerseys. If we can get enough people to pay for jerseys from CSG, I'm fine with that, but I don't want to have to pay for two $70 jerseys. I'd also like to find out which of the two companies has turned out better quality prints because hell, if I AM paying $70 to have a jersey printed, it had better look NICE... and again, we're not looking at a difference in cost here.

The one other thing you mentioned that may be a problem is the use of the WDP angelwings logo. I believe its copyrighted material and therefore we'd need to get WDP's approval before using it, along with getting the vector art from them (because any printer will laugh you out the door if you send them JPG/BMP/GIF images to print) I'm POSITIVE we can find suitable alternatives anyway.

Last bit on the jerseys: it looks like you definitely want to have an "angel" look. Do we want "heavenly", clean, etc angel look or grungy kind of "fallen" angel look? I personally think we could make the grungy "fallen" look work really well... but I can throw together 2 different ones for you guys to decide on either way.

The paint deal sounds great, definitely look into that one. IF YOU DO MANAGE TO GET SOME KIND OF DEAL: Get a contract. Contract contract contract. I've been screwed over where this kind of thing is concerned and that's the last thing we want.

[TheDragonJedi]

I've got several folks I can talk with and hopefully make something happen as far as paint. One is my practice paint Sponsorship with Vengeance Paintball Distributors, the other is with Sammo up at ARCHON PAINTBALL or John Rathbun himself at PMI and EVIL. I'll touch base with them and see who is willing to help us out.

I live at most 45 mins from all major fields here, along with that I've got two homes with enough room we can use to crash. For any real winter practice I suggest chicagoland paintball. Chicago Evil's Home field, we can scrimmage with them or any other number of teams that show up. Cheapest will be Take Aim Paintball on either wed, thursday, or sunday.

[P8ntballer247]

yo fuhrman, its corey. u know im down

[Speedy_in_Blue]

yea, I know your down

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Paint, well the store my girlfriend owns, sponsored team had a PMI deal through the store. They ended up shooting Ultra Evil, Only avaliable at National Tournaments, and VERY High grade stuff. They shot about 16 cases at Chicago this past summer, and it only costed them around $280 total. SoI suggest we try and do something like that, and I'll even see if my girlfriend will help us out any.
J


Deffinatly find out about that. Also paintchick79, if you wanna come up with a design, I can prolly put it on my CC and everyone just pay me then.

I will also need everyones size, and names(real names) for the back of the jerseys. Im also gonna have everyones username put on the back under their last name just so fellow AOG'ers that arent playin can see who we are from the site.


Also, is there any interest in playing Xball at all? I mean, D4 5man is the cheapest route, but I think we could all have a blast playing D3 Xball, its fun

[TheDragonJedi]

Paint, well the store my girlfriend owns, sponsored team had a PMI deal through the store. They ended up shooting Ultra Evil, Only avaliable at National Tournaments, and VERY High grade stuff. They shot about 16 cases at Chicago this past summer, and it only costed them around $280 total. SoI suggest we try and do something like that, and I'll even see if my girlfriend will help us out any.
J


Must have missed your post. Your option will definately be cheaper.

[paintchick79]

Deffinatly find out about that. Also paintchick79, if you wanna come up with a design, I can prolly put it on my CC and everyone just pay me then.

I will also need everyones size, and names(real names) for the back of the jerseys. Im also gonna have everyones username put on the back under their last name just so fellow AOG'ers that arent playin can see who we are from the site.


Also, is there any interest in playing Xball at all? I mean, D4 5man is the cheapest route, but I think we could all have a blast playing D3 Xball, its fun

My vote is for D4 5 man... unless we can get some really good xball practices in.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Im down for whatever.

[TheDragonJedi]

I think he placed somewhere in the middle... around 2000th out of 5000? Not entirely sure. AND I forgot to get the damn pictures off my momma's camera before she deleted them or I'd post GAHHHHH!!!!

Thanks for asking though. I think he managed to raise about $6000 ($4500 was required).

That's cool, winning isn't the important thing in these races, it's all about the support, awareness and research advancement. When I was involved in the Avon's walk for breast cancer the team managed to raise almost $20000. That's more money than any of us would ever see at one time. I'm glad he finished it.


Also my vote goes for D4 5Man but would do anything as long as I get to shoot someone.

[P8ntballer247]

xball is def a lot of fun! but we may have more success in d4 5man. We're still cool to play D4 5-man right fuhrman?

[WDPPaintballer23]

Hey I pmed you about playing I am totally down if you guys need another.

[JDemonpbt]

my vote is D4 too. Xball is fun and all, but we would be facing some tougher compition, and with us just starting out, that wouldn't be the wisest.

[paintchick79]

I just want the max amount of playing time for the money, and D4:5man sounds like the best way to do that! Does anyone know the signup deadline?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

yea, its not till the end of next may, haha

[TheDragonJedi]

Almost all the time in the world. Start saving up those pennies and stop buying candy.

[paintchick79]

Almost all the time in the world. Start saving up those pennies and stop buying candy.

But I like candy...

[JDemonpbt]

so when and where do you guys plan to have our first practice? And I feel like I need to point out for everyone, that Div4 PSP will only let us roster a team of 8, no more, and nonless then 5. Thats why I suggested we get 2 jerseys if we do the custom ones. I understand Paintchicks reply about not wanting to spend the extra money, (makes sense, we're goin need it to play) But who would want to buy a custom jersey if they're not goin get to play. Don't get me wrong though, I still think Div4 is were we should be.

[TheDragonJedi]

Everyone would be able to play. If we had a full roster of 8 for a 5man tourney we could rotate players for different games against different teams.


Paintchick

So do I. . . Thankgod it was holloween. Now I've got a half year supply of sweets.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

ha, yea, if only my nephew was old enough to know what haloween really was......the joys of being a month old.....oblivious to everything but eating, sleeping, and pooping.

but yea, we should get on making the jerseys so they are ordered and done before our first practice. Paintchick - you still working on a desing?

[JDemonpbt]

Everyone would be able to play. If we had a full roster of 8 for a 5man tourney we could rotate players for different games against different teams.


Paintchick

So do I. . . Thankgod it was holloween. Now I've got a half year supply of sweets.

I meant if we ordered custom jerseys, we have to get 10 of them. We can only roster 8 for Div4 PSP, so who would get the two extra Jerseys? No one will want to buy them if they werent going to play.

[TheDragonJedi]

I know someone who would. he's in a wheelchair but he's been buggin me to join the team. Maybe he can staff and have a jersey of his own. Big heart this guy.

[Shooters~SOBA]

hahaha, wow i have somthing really mean to say but i think im just gonna let it go...

[JDemonpbt]

I know someone who would. he's in a wheelchair but he's been buggin me to join the team. Maybe he can staff and have a jersey of his own. Big heart this guy.

Heart is something TRUE Athelets have.
Mad respect

[Shooters~SOBA]

Heart is something TRUE Athelets have.
Mad respect
unless of course you cant walk which defeats the whole purpous of being on a paintball team...

[Speedy_in_Blue]

someones going to be spending an eternity rotting in hell.

Also, on the jersey thing, Ill take one of the extra ones

[TheDragonJedi]

unless of course you cant walk which defeats the whole purpous of being on a paintball team...


Not True, and that is just mean. He's been playing for 14yrs now, Suffers from Cerebral Palsey (SP?) and can still play like any one of us. Granted He can only have one bunker through the whole game but he does just fine with his "Ramping" and is quite good. He's never played a tourney though but he just wants to staff for us, not play.


The jersey thing should be settled. Miss Paint will be working on the design then?

[Emmit]

shooters consider this your warning, multiple people have complained that your posts were not in the good fellowship keeping of this message forum. If you have nothing nice to say then don't say it. If I witness these types of posts again I will remove your posting privledges for no less than 2 weeks.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

thank you emmit

Also, if he's down to staff, thats great!

[TheDragonJedi]

Paul there is a real ass for being 33 yrs old.

I will let him know tonight, He will be happy to hear he will be part of PSP Chicago 07

[Speedy_in_Blue]

so lets get things rolling on the jerseys, get them ordered

[WDPPaintballer23]

do you guys need any extra players?

[JDemonpbt]

Speedy_in_Blue, whats the updated rooster now?
When do you guys want to start practicing? I suggest Nov 17 or 18th sometime that weekend, before Thanksgiving. I can only afford to go up to Chicago maybe once a month, and we only have 8 months till Chicago PSP, so that means I can only get in about 8 practices with you guys before the tournament. Next, Jerseys I don't mind if we don't have them before our first practice, besides that (Our first practice) will really let us know who all is completely committed to playin. We also need to decide who is collecting the Money for our jerseys when ever we do order them. I nominate Paintchick, since she's workin on designing them, and I think she'll keep good records of who's paid, and who still owes, etc. If thats OK with her. She sounds like a honest person. Next, how are we on sponsership? Has anyone tried getting us any? I'm still trying to work out a paint deal, how its been done in the past is the more paint the store buys from PMI, the more extra cases PMI has givin to the store, who then in returns gives to the teams, for free. Last year, the store team got 4 cases free, and then had to pay like $24 per additional case at Chicago. What ever deal I do get brokered We'll diffenetly get a contract. But everyone else, please keep an eye out for anything else you guys can get.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Ill be contacting angelparts.com, one of the MT centers, I used to play on the same team as Sean and Josh from there back in the day, still friends with them. Ill talk to Sean, see what I can get. Any interested in WDP pants? I can prolly get the 06 line fairly cheap.

[TheDragonJedi]

I'll talk to jim at our local field and see if he cant get us a similiar paint deal. I also play with Mikey from DiscountPaintball every week so I'm sure I can talk him into a little something for us as well. I probably won't know anything until I see him again so I'll keep you posted. In the meantime keep working out any deals you can.

[paintchick79]

My apologies for not responding sooner. I am indeed still working on a design.


I'm willing to work on collecting the money and basically doing everything involved with jerseys, and you can bet your behind that I'm not out to take your money - but I must stress this: I WILL NOT ORDER UNTIL EVERYONE HAS PAID. I've seen multiple teams have people not pay for jerseys, and one guy is left with a $500 bill on his credit card for jerseys he's not going to wear. I can't have that happen.

Another thing: IF WE GO WITH ANIMAL CUSTOMS, THE MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 JERSEYS. This is why I'm going to suggest THEM because we then don't have to order extras. If anyone WANTS an extra jersey, and someone sees a good reason to go with CSG, then that's just fine. I'm simply saying that if no one is really that interested in ordering 2, there is another option.

To anyone looking into sponsors: If anyone agrees to sponsor us, please ask them for a VECTORED (not jpg, gif, png, etc) version of their logo. It will be a file with a .eps or .ai extension most likely. If you can get it, please forward it to me at a.n.katch@gmail.com.

For jerseys: I'll get a real move on them this week, have some concept art up for you guys to look at, but I can't guarantee that they'll be finished, approved, ordered, and in my hands before Christmas. I will certainly try though. Please PM OR EMAIL ME (don't post it in this thread, I might miss it) with your information in this format:

[First Name] [Nickname (if you want one)] [Last Name] [Number]

I don't think I'll be able to make it up before December 3, the weekend AFTER that is a possibility.

[JDemonpbt]

Well then Ok. I think we should hold off practice until Dec 8-9 the weekend after Paintchicks request. We should ALL Have our money for Jerseys on that date, so we can hand it over to her in person. I don't blame her on not wanting to order them until everyone has paid... Next I think we should go with the CSG jersey instead. We already have est. whats going on with the extra jerseys, and plus from my own experiance, I think CSG makes better quality Jerseys then Animal PB does. Everyone cool with what I Say?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Im down for what ever. Would be great to just wait till after new years to get the first practice in. That way its after the holiday season and everyone should have a free weekend.

[TheDragonJedi]

It doesn't matter either way where we get the jersey from. PaintChick makes a good point about being stuck with a bill if someone doesn't pay, especially if it's a 10 jersy min. That is already $700, However, if paintchick's design translates well to either jersey company, we could pool up the money and Go with CSG if all the money is there. If not then we could go with animal and save a few bucks.

One of my friends Runs a Q-Doba restaurant in Warrenville, IL. He is willing to do a few things for us including $100 towards our jerseys with Small qdoba logo (Paintchick, I'll get you the graphics soon) and possibly food incentives everytime we come out to practice we come into the store with our jerseys displaying q-doba logo, and we get either food discounts or free food, not sure which he's willing to go with, but I'd want to know that we could all show up for post practice dinner or something like that.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Id be down with that, like I said, makes me no difference, we'll put his logo on the jersey

[paintchick79]

Hell yes, Qdoba rocks! I'm sure that if we're up there that late (are we still doing the weekend at [whose???] house?) we could have some Qdoba after practice. I'm going to add all of you who have AIM to mine and try and keep everyone updated on the jersey situation. I'd like to ideally have 2 or 3 designs for us to vote on OR make changes to. ALSO -- just because I'M designing them does not mean that YOUR ideas are not welcome! Please bring any ideas you might have to the table!

[JDemonpbt]

That means I gotta get my AIM account up again....

[TheDragonJedi]

Hell yes, Qdoba rocks! I'm sure that if we're up there that late (are we still doing the weekend at [whose???] house?)

I've volunteered to room you guys if we're practicing in chicago. I'm in Aurora, bout 30mins from Take Aim in Darien, 45-1hr from Chicagoland paintball and badlandz. I'm 1 min from a hospital, theater,shopping center, I-88, dunkin donuts, denny's. Literally There is also a huge aquatics/activity center, bowling alley/pool hall and casino

[JDemonpbt]

sounds good, just waiting now to confirm dates of practice.

[Shooters~SOBA]

Not True, and that is just mean. He's been playing for 14yrs now, Suffers from Cerebral Palsey (SP?) and can still play like any one of us. Granted He can only have one bunker through the whole game but he does just fine with his "Ramping" and is quite good. He's never played a tourney though but he just wants to staff for us, not play.


The jersey thing should be settled. Miss Paint will be working on the design then?
gee im sorry... but yeah ramping is illegial in psp, just a word of advice so you dont give angelowners any more of a bad name when your team of newbs,dykes,cripples take the feild.

[JDemonpbt]

dude your the only one giving Angelowners a bad name being a jerk like that. If you can't say something good, Get the F@#& off the thread!

[Shooters~SOBA]

lol omg you kids theese days are such winey little bitches... okay now im done.

[Crazy99]

wow, i dont think shooter has a life

[Shooters~SOBA]

a life outside of spending all my time online to talk about paintball when i can actually play, yes.

[TheDragonJedi]

Thanks.

[Mavrick]

a life outside of spending all my time online to talk about paintball when i can actually play, yes.

Guess he has the next 2 weeks to think about it.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

wait, he said ramping is illegal in the PSP........

[Furby]

And he's wrong...PSP uses a 15bps capped Ramping. 3 shots then ramps to 15bps.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

I know, its so funny, cause he was saying how he plays with Denver Alttitude, a D2 PSP Xball team, I played for them in Texas...........

[TheDragonJedi]

Besides he really needs to learn how to read thouroughly and he coulda avoided making himself look like a complete fool. I specifically stated he won't be playing the psp event, but when he does take a field the only way he can keep up with the rest of us is to use ramping. I actually interviewed Nick a while back and was considering submitting the story/interview.

[TheDragonJedi]

Here is his pic

[Mavrick]

Here is the rule book. Read it carefully on the marker section....

[Emmit]

listen...you guys wanted him out of your thread he's gone and won't be back for a few days. That DOES NOT give you the rights to start flaming him and ragging on him. AOG is a fun and family atmosphere and this will not be tolerated.

[paintchick79]

Is Madison, WI on the way to the Chicago area for any of you? I'm really a horrible driver (yes... yes... I know...) and if I can carpool and split the cost of gas with someone, that would probably be... let's just call it less hazardous. I'll find a way to get there either way, but let me know folks...

Very close to done with the first jersey design, it's the MW that is on the MW skull (without the skull) with the letters AOG running down the side of the W. Then across the bottom it says
"We put the OG in AOG - www.angelowners.com"

[JDemonpbt]

like I said.sounds good, just waiting now to confirm dates of practice.

[JDemonpbt]

Hey guys, I just sent out a Email to the Badlands about helping us out w/ practices and having a place to play. Should hear a reply back in the next few days. If we get our team registered with them (yeah we would have to pay a fee) we would get cheeper entry fees and discounts on paint, plus private use of the fields, so were not playing the walk-ons. They also have a deal going on, where if we buy paint from them, we get free Air and entry fees for the rest of the year. Check them out. www.thebadlandz.com

[TheDragonJedi]

yeah I already had that setup for my other team Darkmatterpaintball. needless to say we didn't go often enough because of the contruction going on along the way. Made a 1hr trip into almost 2hrs for us coming from the west suburbs. But badlandz has the best outdoor deals through and through.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

looks like everything is shaping up. Badlandz is a 3hour drive for me, but its no biggy, its seems like the central location for everyone.

[paintchick79]

Badlandz is cool with me, my matey's team will be practicing there as well, along with Voltage, Shock, and Legend... should be good. Will it be a problem if my boyfriend Jason tags along and possibly pits for us at the PSP?

[TheDragonJedi]

Badlandz is cool with me, my matey's team will be practicing there as well, along with Voltage, Shock, and Legend... should be good. Will it be a problem if my boyfriend Jason tags along and possibly pits for us at the PSP?

I don't see why not.

I've got a friend interested in doing this as well. He'll be along shortly as he's newly registered.

[paintchick79]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLadies annnnnnd gennnnntlemennnnnnnn....

The first jersey design... is in the attachments. For some reason, I can't host pics anymore...

All of this is editable, let me know of changes you'd like.

I was unable to use the MW jaws idea... it just didn't work. Also, blue, black, and gray didn't look THAT great, so I just used black and gray, but if you guys really want the blue, I could try and work it in somehow. Let me know what ya'lls think!

[TheDragonJedi]

Wow, I'm already impressed. That's some fine jersey you've got there. I especially like the wings placement. Did you still plan on putting our screen names underneath our last names in small print?

[paintchick79]

I can do that quite easily, is that what you guys would like?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

honestly, I think that would do just fine as the jersey design, its good looking yet not crazy.

[paintchick79]

Okay folks, apparently CSG is changing their prices and minimum order on November 20... I don't know what they're changing these numbers to, but if they're too high, we may have to go with Animal. Is this a huge issue for anyone?

I also still need names and numbers from everyone. Please make sure everything is spelled correctly.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Name: Jon Fuhrman
Number: 69

[TheDragonJedi]

Rene' Padilla
#76



They may lower thier minimum, I can see this happening in an effort to reach out to more players. It wouldn't make too much sense to make it so out of reach for teams who can't really afford a minimum purchase of 10. Let's just keep our fingers crossed.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

whoa, i never give in, whoa i never give up, whaoa i never give in, i just wanna be, wanna be loved...........

ok that was random, but its from a damn good song. Papa Roach - To Be Loved

[paintchick79]

Alrighty, we'll wait. So do you guys want me to work on another design or just play around with the one I already posted? I have no problem doing another one if you want more options but if you like that one, I'd rather put the time into tweaking it.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

I personally like this one as it is

[Demon_Angel]

too bad you ppl cant get a team going around the utah arizona area. i would totally be there. maybe we can get a team going over here, and hell, perhaps we could find a way to get midwest to play against the western team in kind of an angel promotion or something...i know it sounds stupid, but i t was just a thought that i was having

[TheDragonJedi]

I personally like this one as it is

Me too but feel free to tweak all you want. but like I said, I'm already impressed with your first submission.

[paintchick79]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/BWjerseydesignwhitecopy.jpg

Here's a slightly altered version with the screen name added. Also made the wing on the sleeve a bit bigger.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

wtf is up with not letting the code for IMG to work?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/BWjerseydesignwhitecopy.jpg

[JDemonpbt]

Ally looks Good. I would however like a bit of a blue to gray to black fade in the fabric if possiable. But I DO like it however. Sorry I haven't been around in the last week, My Grandfather passed away this past Saturday 11/11/06 he was 80 years old, a Veteran of WWII, and went peacefully in his sleep. I was extremely close to him and dealing with it Ok. Talk to ya all l8ter.
J.

PS. Ally my name is
Jeremy Bowles
#23 please.

[paintchick79]

Very sorry to hear about your grandpa, Jeremy. I'll see what I can do on the fade, but if EVERYTHING has to be in vector format, it'll be a gigantic pain in the butt (imagine making 179087098435 rectangles, each .01 inch smaller than the next with .5% less black in it than the previous).

I'll try to have the revised version up on Monday, with backs for each of you guys to check out.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

id say just stick with what you designed, it looks very professional

[Emmit]

are you guys having problems with minimum orders?

I browsed a little and that's what it looks like. Perhaps maybe come up with a way to put an "honorary member" type of thing on the jersey and see if you can get a couple of people to help out to increase the order size. If the design is good enough I might consider it myself ;).

[Speedy_in_Blue]

already have 2 extras sold if we need to for minimum order. His user name on his is kaind, he and his son live about an hour from me, and he expressed interest in that if we have to order extras he will buy 2 of them from us.

[TheDragonJedi]

That's an Excellent Idea Emmit.

I've got One person , Nick "Wheels" Pagonis, interested in a Honorary Jersey. Don't know what number he wants on his.

And It doesn't have to be honorary. For example, let's say emmit buys the jersey, we could stick him with a contract or something that states For so long as he owns that jersey, he has to play with us if we end up in houston.

The same could be done for everyone else. :evilgrin:

[darklcdguy]

fuhrman i would buy one just to let you know if you need to get a minimum number fo order

[Speedy_in_Blue]

alright perry

[paintchick79]

Okay guys, just remember to PM (please don't post in this thread, I'm afraid i'll miss it!) me all names and numbers ASAP.

I'd ideally like to collect checks at our first practice. If you can't be there or aren't actually planning on play (honorary members), I'll give you my address to send a money order. I HIGHLY recommend sending a money order and not a check or cash, because if the money order gets lost, you at least have a chance of getting it back. I'm also going to ask that we don't use paypal, because the 3% fees are going to get pretty big with an order like this.

I also need the logos from our sponsors ASAP as well. I'd planned on putting them in the diagonal black space underneath the big MW logo.

[TheDragonJedi]

Here's qdoba's logo, I had to zip it. I'll talk to him and let him know to submit his payment. But it's only $100.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

so looks like NPPL is making a stop in Indy for the 07 season. Any interest in that over 5man?

[JDemonpbt]

so looks like NPPL is making a stop in Indy for the 07 season. Any interest in that over 5man?

I would love to play both really if possiable. But isn't NPPL more expensive to play?

[paintchick79]

Have names and numbers from:

Jeremy
Jon
Rene
Myself

Need the rest ASAP!

[JDemonpbt]

Hey Ally I was wondering are we getting the Raglan style jersey's or the Set-in Style. I think I would perfer the Raglan. Also do we all have to order the same size, or can we get a varity of sizes? If we ALL have to have the same size, then I recommend getting 2XL, thats what most Pro's wear, and it will leave them a bit baggy which we want.

[TheDragonJedi]

There will be two more jerseys and numbers. Don't know how they want them yet So I'll get back to you hopefully soon.
I know one is For Nick Pagonis and one is for Devin McGuire. DOn't know what numbers they want yet.


and hell ya, i'd like to do Nppl also. Screw expensive, Everyone that is attending either event, be it as a player or pit member should have to pay part of the entry fee regardless if they play or not. This will be fair for everyone and alleviate the financial burden.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

no need for numbers but I have names if we have to order a minimum jerseys, lets say 10.

Here are for 2 extras: Dave Kain and Rick Kain. Let me know the price so I can get the money from them

[paintchick79]

Hey Ally I was wondering are we getting the Raglan style jersey's or the Set-in Style. I think I would perfer the Raglan. Also do we all have to order the same size, or can we get a varity of sizes? If we ALL have to have the same size, then I recommend getting 2XL, thats what most Pro's wear, and it will leave them a bit baggy which we want.


I actually am unsure on the fabric question. The CSG website isn't very well maintained (they haven't yet posted the revised pricing/minimum order schedule), and the "Fabrics" page is completely blank. As far as sizes go, I'd ASSUME we can each get different sizes, though I'm not completely sure.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/PadillaBack.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/JBowlesBack.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/FuhrmanBack.jpg

Three new backs, will work on the rest ASAP...

[Brad7]

so looks like NPPL is making a stop in Indy for the 07 season. Any interest in that over 5man?



I'd definetly be interested in that. My brother lives in the Fishers/Carmel area, so rooming wouldn't be a problem. Mark me down for that please.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Ally, those jerseys are amazing. Also, NPPL maybe a little more exspensive but I have another person here that would play with us if we go NPPL, he shoots a Arsenal G7, and is one of the better front/insert players in the state.

Also, Im fat......I normally wear 3XL jerseys, I can fit in 2XL but the 3XL gives me that extra baggy feeling that I like. Im pretty sure everyone can get the size they need.

If my friend that shoots the Arsenal plays, I really think we should look at the NPPL, not only will it give us more time to practice, we might be able to get some support from WDP since they support the NPPL. The master techs from AngelParts.com are 10mins from me and I used to play on the same team as 2 of them back in the day, so we are friends, Ill see if they can hook us up with a deal on like WDP apperal(ie pants, gloves, pads)

[paintchick79]

I'd have to know more about what it would cost per person to do the NPPL before I said yes or no.

For those of you waiting on jersey back proofs, I should have them up tomorrow between 10:30 and 11.

Do we have a date set for our first practice yet?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Hows January 7th sound, at Chicagoland

[paintchick79]

Any possible way we can do 6 and 7?

Sizing Info (http://www.customsportsgear.com/SIZE-CHARTS.cfm)
Fabric Info (http://www.customsportsgear.com/dryout.cfm)

[Speedy_in_Blue]

fine with me if we wanna make it a weekend thing.

[JDemonpbt]

So then Were not getting together on Dec 8th and 9th? Trust me guys, and Girl, we will need all the practice we can get, diffinetely if were only going to get together once a month, which is all I could really afford to do since everyone lives all over the Midwest.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Doesnt matter to me, I think waiting till after the holiday season will be the best thing to do.

[TheDragonJedi]

I agree only because the holidays are gonna be a bitch without the extra cash.

[paintchick79]

I really think we're going to have a tough time all getting together during the month of December. If we really make the 6ish practices we're going to get REALLY count, we can do reasonably well. It's all going to be in how we manage our practice time.

[JDemonpbt]

OH right as long as were all on the same page now. Sounds like Jan 6th & 7th are the dates.

[Wolfboy]

Hello I'm Devin McGuire. Yeah I'm interested in playing with you guys and I dont care what tourney it is or what format or how many people I just love to play the game. Unfortuantely I havent taken the time to read the entire thread so I dont know all the official information but I do have an idea. As far as knowing a 100% sure if I can be places at certain times I wont be that good at I'm a senior in highschool and my schedual is al over the place*Perents makeing plans w/out your knowledge and forcing you to come along, not having money, or problems w/ school the list goes on...* but I will try my best to help out in anyway just let me know of everything ahead fo time. I will try and check this thread every day or two.

[TheDragonJedi]

OH right as long as were all on the same page now. Sounds like Jan 6th & 7th are the dates.

lol you sound disappointed, but Don't feel bad, I'd much rather start sooner than later too but It really is a bad month.


Ally, I know what you mean. We should really have a plan to manage our practice. Our practices should focus on several aspects to coordinate our efforts with one another. We could then focus on our individual conditioning during The space in between.

Devin, 'bout time you showed your ass up. Make sure you do read the thread and you'll be caught up just fine.

[paintchick79]

I tried. I really tried. I got all the names outlined and created but didn't get the time to actually post them. CS2 at school is effed up... Photoshop won't save my pictures as the correct file type the first time.... and the school's Internet is awful. Sigh.

As far as practices go, I think we should work them something like this

Saturday/first day should be spent running drills, perhaps figure out one person who is the best at each position and have those people run drills for anyone looking to play that position (does that make sense?). I know several excellent drills we could run, and I'm sure we could easily come up with more. If we run out of drills or get insanely sick of them, we could have intra-team
scrimmages and maybe a short discussion (sounds like Health class doesn't it, kids? :)) every 5 games or something.

Sunday/second day should be spent playing other teams.

I hate to be the great big party pooper here, but I'd like to request that we keep the drinking to a minimum. Waking up for practice with a hangover is not a good way to be productive.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

I agree

[JDemonpbt]

Same here, besides I really don't drink.... Much. No just kidding. As far as practices goes Alley, I think we should first just play a couple games together, to kinda get a feel for how we "Gel". Then start working on Drills. As far as postions go, well reallisticly not everyone is going to be good at some postions, but everyone SHOULD be able to play any and ALL postions. SO we should ALL be practicing the same drills.

[JDemonpbt]

you sound disappointed, but Don't feel bad, I'd much rather start sooner than later too but It really is a bad month.
Yeah I was, but you guys do make a very conviencing and valid point.

[TheDragonJedi]

I hate to be the great big party pooper here, but I'd like to request that we keep the drinking to a minimum. Waking up for practice with a hangover is not a good way to be productive.



Well I'm relieved because I really don't Drink. Everyone gives me a hard time about it but Beer just doesnt sit well, and I could only handle 2 or 3 shots of anything, any more and I'm Under the table. There is alot more around here to keep us busy besides bar's here in aurora.

[paintchick79]

Well THAT, and I know at LEAST Devin and I (senors rule!) can't go to the bars anyway. I'm sure we'll all find fun and exciting activitie to pursue after practice, like Scrabble =). Butsrsly....

[JDemonpbt]

Man you guys are making me feel like the old gezzer of the group, I'm only 26.

[TheDragonJedi]

Man you guys are making me feel like the old gezzer of the group, I'm only 26.

Relax, I'm 30.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

im 21 lol

[TheDragonJedi]

ugh ok now I'm really feeling OLD. It's your guys job now to help me feel younger.

[JDemonpbt]

ugh ok now I'm really feeling OLD. It's your guys job now to help me feel younger.

Hey we might be the oldest in the group, but I'm sure we could make them work to keep up with our playin styles.

[paintchick79]

Have fun with that old timers. You guys can just hang out in the back, I'll be the one waving at you with the flag on the other side of the field :)

[Wolfboy]

Well put =)

.... but I cant say much im not that fast, oh well ill just have to shoot you out then walk it in.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

as of right now, Im not really sure what I can do. My team just picked up a new sponsor, and he wants us playing both Chicago Xball and Indianapolis NPPL. If I can play Xball and 5man at the same time, that would be the coolest.

[JDemonpbt]

Speedy I don't think PSP would allow that. However, if your team has a larger team rooster, then you could pobably sit out that tournament for your other team, and play with us. If not, then thats really your call weather you want to play with AOG Midwest, or your other team.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Id love to play with you guys. Im gonna see whats up on how he's doin things. If anything, Ill stay involved with the team and come help in the pits when you guys are playing if I have to play with my team cause this sponsor is pretty much running the show, wants the same guys playing both NPPL and PSP, but its still up in the air if PSP is gonna be played.

[JDemonpbt]

Well just keep us informed.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Paintchick told me you guys still need some players, so let me know when and where practice is, and costs, and then I might be in. I'm out of job (went out of buisness) so money's tight right now, but let me know, mkay?
Thanks.

[JDemonpbt]

Paintchick told me you guys still need some players, so let me know when and where practice is, and costs, and then I might be in. I'm out of job (went out of buisness) so money's tight right now, but let me know, mkay?
Thanks.

Here the details in a nut shell so far. First Practice is Jan 6 & 7, must have money for entry fees and paint if needed for Practice. Where still to be determined, but my guess would be ChicagoLand Indoor field in Chicago IL. Must have transportation to practice. Thanks to Jedi-Dragon We have a place to crash for the night. Must have Approx $70 on the date of first practice for team Jerseys. (Paintchick is kinda in charge of that detail) Anything else just check back here.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

alright, heres the deal for me guys. looks like we will be playing Xball in Chicago. What I will do is still come help out in your pits when you play. Ill help coach, Ill have my gun there for you to use in case someones goes down.

Ill throw down for a jersey yet also.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

:-) I heard paint was pretty expensive.
The parents typically let me crash at peoples houses for these things, but I'll have to check it all out with my mom. Other than that, I'm all in.
So bring, what, 200 dollars?

What about that chicago reball field? That would keep prices down.


Hey, have you guys heard of this "Moneyball"?
http://www.68caliber.com/news/tournament/story042082.php
I think that the "Line of possession" and "Offence" and "Defense" plainly suck. I can't say I'm a big fan of how he wants this to go.

[TheDragonJedi]

I might have problem attending practice on the 6th unless it's in the evening. I might also have to work the morning of 7th for a couple of hours.

For those that plan on staying at my place, please remember to bring all your amenities, and if you have portable mattress, that would be cool too as my dog tore my only one last month, so All I've got is a couple of sleeping bags.

[paintchick79]

Sounds good, when is "the evening" for you? I'm guessing the first couple days will just be about getting used to each other, nothing hardcore or anything so its not a huge deal... but maybe we start a little later than we usually would, say sometime between noon and 3?

I did note that paint at Chicagoland is a tad expensive, and I tend not to shoot much, is anyone interested in splitting a case in order to save a few bucks?

I'm still waiting on a few things for the jerseys. Need the logo from that pro-shop, and if anyone else has any other sponsors I'll need those too. Please don't forget to bring a check made out to Ally Katch to practice. Each check should be in the amount of $75 (to account for shipping). Cash works too.

I have jerseys for the following:

Rene Padilla
Jon Fuhrman
Jeremy Knowles
Rick Kain
David Kain
Ally Katch

Working on Devon and AJ's, both should be up tomorrow. If I'm missing any, please let me know. It also looks like only 6 of those are playing for sure, we could use 2 more "for sure" players, so if anyone knows anyone, reel 'em in.

Are we still in for some Qdoba goodness or is there a pizza place nearby we can all toss in a few dollars for dinner?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

my friend Corey Schwanz would like to support the team, he was gonna play but we are on the same team that got a full ride for next season with me, so we will be there showing our support, coaching and doing other things like that for you guys. Ill have my gun there for you to use during games.

Corey Schwanz #17 size XXL

Also, Ally did you ever find out about the size thing? If I can get a 3XL that would be great.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

also, Im still working on the playing with you guys part, would love to do that, but we'll see.

[TheDragonJedi]

Sounds good, when is "the evening" for you? I'm guessing the first couple days will just be about getting used to each other, nothing hardcore or anything so its not a huge deal... but maybe we start a little later than we usually would, say sometime between noon and 3?

I did note that paint at Chicagoland is a tad expensive, and I tend not to shoot much, is anyone interested in splitting a case in order to save a few bucks?

I'm still waiting on a few things for the jerseys. Need the logo from that pro-shop, and if anyone else has any other sponsors I'll need those too. Please don't forget to bring a check made out to Ally Katch to practice. Each check should be in the amount of $75 (to account for shipping). Cash works too.

I have jerseys for the following:

Rene Padilla
Jon Fuhrman
Jeremy Knowles
Rick Kain
David Kain
Ally Katch

Working on Devon and AJ's, both should be up tomorrow. If I'm missing any, please let me know. It also looks like only 6 of those are playing for sure, we could use 2 more "for sure" players, so if anyone knows anyone, reel 'em in.

Are we still in for some Qdoba goodness or is there a pizza place nearby we can all toss in a few dollars for dinner?



Evening for me should be after 4:30 by then. I'm an IT Support Technician for a warehouse so I'm bound to thier hours. But by then we should be slowing down from the christmas season.

We're still doing Qdoba

I'll check with X.O. Industries again and see if they would like to sponsor us.

I'll also check with Take Aim. I know Jim the owner so we should be able to get team practice prices whenever we go in. It's like $50 a case and $10 field fee.

we also have The Badlandz once they open up.


If we still want to do Chicagoland paintball I'll check with the owner, but most likely it will be a membership type dealio where we buy membership and get reduced prices.

[paintchick79]

Sounds great, just let me know on those sponsorships ASAP, can't get the jerseys printed till I know who's got our back.

As far as sizing goes, Animal will make jerseys up to 7XL and as small as 2XS. Click here for their sizing chart (http://www.animalpaintball.com/SizingChartsB.html). CSG will make jerseys up to 4XL and their size chart is located here (http://customsportsgear.com/SIZE-CHARTS.cfm).

Speaking of which, I have heard NOTHING from CSG (emailed them several times) about their new pricing/minimum order schedule, and we may actually be able to get the jerseys considerably cheaper from Animal anyway -- an order of 10 Totally Custom jerseys will cost $57.85 per person (not including shipping), and that's WITHOUT our jersey sponsorship... ends up being about $50 a pop. If we can agree to go with Animal, checks need only be in that amount (then I'll need the $100 check from Qdoba as well).

Let me know on all that and remember, EPS files are preferred for the logos.

[Crazy99]

where were u guys going to have ur first practice?

[Wolfboy]

Hello sorry I hevent replied in a little bit, but I have been reading. Anyways, looking ahead I would have to say the 6th and 7th look clear to me but I am always open to a change. On the side of jerseys I have a possible sponsor from HYPE energy drink. My mixed martial arts team just picked up a sponsorship from them and they said it was really easy all you had to do was ask. So I did but unfortunately it was just tonight. Hopefully I will get a relpy shorty, but theres no knowing forsure. Also not to be too picky and just incase its gunna be on the jersey my first name is spelled Devin. No worrires though =)

[paintchick79]

Crazy: Probably Chicagoland

Devin: Ahhhhh yes, sorry about that. I'll change it straight away. Energy drink sponsorship sounds cool, just let me know...

[twelvevoltoutlet]

so far I still look good for being in, but I'll letchya know if something happens.
It would be really helpful if we could play at cheap place
;-)
lol

[Wolfboy]

As for the sponsorship I got a reply here it is:

Please send any and all information that you would like us to
consider for sponsorship.

Thanks -
Paulo Vassar
Head Of Internet Marketing
Hype Marketing Spain
Centro De Negocios Puerta De Banus
Bloque E, Oficina 40-42
Camino Del Angel S/N
29660 Nueva Andalucia - Spain
telephone: + 34 952 81 30 50
paulo@hype.com
http://www.hype.com/

Since im a more grammaticaly chanllenged type of guy if someone knows what to tell this guy let me know and ill reply.

And for the custom stuff I dont know which company your looking into but here is one that I know of havent used though but had planned to a while ago.

http://store.customsportsgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.catalog

[JDemonpbt]

Ally, you got my name misspelled too. Its Jeremy Bowles. Second, I'll try and bring you a copy of the stores logo at practice. (I know you could use it before then, however I can't get it on an EPS file, since I don't have a clue how to do anything w/ computers) Next, the owner of the shop would like a Jersey too, Size M her name is Jenny Dawson. I was also thinking about your design, I like it, but just a thought, since I said earlier about having a bit blue in it, Maybe we could do a black/blue with a kinda Small Silverish/gray and black checker board pattern in the back ground.???? And the Angel Wings in Black outlined with the Silverish/gray. Just a thought!

[paintchick79]

Jeremy: Sorry about that, your name is spelled right on the jersey, I just spelled it wrong up there. Proofs will follow in the next 20 minutes for EVERYONE, please check them over one final time. If you can't get an eps file, just send a jpg. I can convert them pretty easily.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

sweet, hey ally you take paypal? Ill add the 3% and what not, idk where my check book is. If things change, I might be playing with you after all idk yet, just count me as "staff" still for the time being.

Ill paypal you for the jerseys for Me, Corey Schwanz, Rick Kane and Dave Kain(Rick and Dave dont want numbers)

[paintchick79]

Jon: I'd rather not do paypal for this simply due to the size of the check I'll have to write at the end. I've only got about $500 in my bank account and the minimum balance is $100 (Yeah... I'm rather poor...), and that's a rather sizable paypal fee you're talking about. We can easily wait on ordering the jerseys up until early April if necessary, so there's really no rush. I'd just like to IDEALLY order them so we have them and it's one less thing we have to do.

I need numbers and/or usernames/some kind of title from the following people:

AJ - number
Jenny Dawson - title and number (I put SPONSOR for the title, but if she'd like something else or nothing, let me know)
Devin - number
Nick - number

Proofs - LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, EVERYTHING CAN BE CHANGED!

All proofs can be viewed here (http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/). I'd post them individually, but that's a lot of copying and it doesn't even show the images anyway.

Sorry about the wait, I only get to work on these when I have a free study hall.

Also, let me know if you like WHITE or GRAY sponsor logos better. As far as adding a background or 4th color... I really think it will be too much. After we put in the logos from our sponsors, there'll be plenty to look at, and a funky background or another color would just be too crazy.

[Wolfboy]

As for me Ill take lucky number 13 =)

About the energy drink company if you want the sponsorship from them just tell me what to send the guy and we will probly get it.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

I IM'd you about it, toss me on as number 19.

Or I can be red vs blue style and go with the -1
:-P

Guys, what do you think?
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1229/ego3pg9.jpg
sexy? no?
:-P
I'm stoaked.

[JDemonpbt]

As far as adding a background or 4th color... I really think it will be too much. After we put in the logos from our sponsors, there'll be plenty to look at, and a funky background or another color would just be too crazy. I'm going to have to disagree with that statement. And Alley, Jenny said she wants #16 on her Jersey, and her screen name from here, is PatrioticPBGames.

[paintchick79]

Updated proofs... for some reason the old files were loading even though the new ones showed up on my screen. Sigh.

If I haven't asked you for a size (or you haven't posted one) please let me know what SIZE you all want.

I also need a number and screen name for Nick Pagonis.

[TheDragonJedi]

As for me Ill take lucky number 13 =)

About the energy drink company if you want the sponsorship from them just tell me what to send the guy and we will probly get it.

I'll write something up unless someone already did.


No Screenname for nick and give Him number 24

[Wolfboy]

Already been taken care of but ty.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Sexy jersey ally! Thanks!

So I definitely think that we need to get wristbands and stickers from AOG. Well, at least wristbands. My Vlocity is too big for those stickers.

[paintchick79]

I'd like to know ASAP (practice is just 2 weeks away kids!) whether it is OK if we go with Animal or not. It looks like we can get jerseys there for $52.50 not including shipping (I will go ahead and ask for a quote if you guys OK it) and not including our jersey sponsorship. I also need logos for our other sponsors, though this is less pressing than the company issue. The reason I want to know is because I don't want to demand any more money from you guys than I absolutely have to. Please vote in the poll in the other thread...

[Speedy_in_Blue]

go with animal

[paintchick79]

These are the absolute LAST THREE BACK PROOFS. Please check over and PM me individually. I need a PM from every single one of you (even if your proof has been posted before) saying your proof is OK before I will order. I will be posting new proofs of the FRONT once we get all the logos and the color determined.

All updated proofs may be found here (http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/paintchick79/MW%20AOG%20Jerseys/) (even the ones I just posted).

Before I order I need...

~9 Checks (amount will be posted as soon as I hear from whatever company we go with) made out to Allyson Katch OR you may choose to pay in cash.
~9 PMs OR EMAILS -- If the person is NOT part of this forum, please have them email me at a.n.katch@gmail.com with the subject line PROOF - [Name] that say either that your proof is good to go, or what you need changed. Posting in this thread that your proof is OK will NOT suffice.
~I need to know whether we want WHITE or GRAY logos (see proof link for sample)
~I need the rest OF the logos. If you can't get the vectored version (.eps), just send me a JPG and I'll do my best with it.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

edit, nevermind on that.

[JDemonpbt]

Practice is coming soon, we still need to know for sure where its going to be at, and Directions/address to theDragon-Jedi's place for yahoo maps.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

I vote Chicagoland or TakeAim.

[TheDragonJedi]

Most likely it's going to be take aim. Their team practice prices are 50 a case and 10 entry. It's not set in stone yet because our practice will fall on a non team practice day but I'm sure he'll give it to us. I will PM each of you directions to my place, it's not something I'm going to want to put up in plain view.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Ill prolly just drive up day of.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Guys, here's my plan. I am the little 15 year old in this crew.... but I am stoaked for this, my mom is flying in to Milwaukee on that saturday night (the 6th) and her boyfriend and I are going to pick her up there, then we go down to chicago and we'll roll in probably around 11 or 12, I'll be in a hotel (my father insisted...) but I figure we'll meet up at take aim paintball on sunday, and have a great practice, eh?

[paintchick79]

Just got the quote back from Animal on our jerseys. They will be $57.85 each plus $20 TOTAL for shipping. If I can get the $100 from Qdoba, then we can make each of your checks a nice round $50. Not a bad deal, IMO.

Rene, does Take Aim include all day air in their entry fee?

[Speedy_in_Blue]

ight, just pm your address

[TheDragonJedi]

Yes it includes all day air.


MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[JDemonpbt]

Merry Christmas everyone. NOW its time for presents. I've been working out a deal with Jenny at the shop, for a paint deal, and since we're getting her a Jersey too (My doing) she is hooking us up with our choice of either a PMI Evil paint deal, or an Archon Paint deal. I just need to know which paint you guys would perfer, Evil or Proball Platinum. Not everything has been finialized, but if Take-Aim field lets us bring our own paint, then I can hook us up with alot of paint for practice at a VERY Cheep cost.
Merry Christmas.

[Wolfboy]

Take Aim is very adament about useing their paint unless its a white fill so if the deal is for a white fill paint then we should be good but I dont know how easy it is to get a hold of white fill

[TheDragonJedi]

easy to get white fill. and If we bring our own paint I think it's like $20-$25. No word yet if we will get the team rate but like I said I'm sure we could. I'm down for Evil though I never tried it on my current setup. But I also know we would not be able to use evil paint during practice unless it's badlandz during the outdoor season.

Also we should go ahead and pay for our own jerseys, when qdoba give us thier contribution we could use it towards entry.

We'll also order nicks jersey afteward unless I see him before or the day of practice.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Evil is amazing paint. I'm not saying that because of my relationship with evil, but before that went down I loved their paint.
My boss at outdoor adventures was always a big fan of evil, so whenever he could he'd order a couple trial cases from evil and let us use it for team practice. Never broke a ball, never bounced, and every ball was perfect. Keep in mind this was being shot through a piranha, evil omen, 2k2 angel, and an ion, nobody had troubles. A case actually sat under my bed until this season (from last year) and I shot it in october, when it was pretty cold out. It worked beautifully.

Get evil.

[paintchick79]

I vote Evil, having had an Archon sponsorship awhile back... the paint was sufficient for practice, but if we can get Evil at the same price... yeah. Evil > Archon.

I don't know if we will be able to order Nick's jersey separately or not. I can ask, but remember that we can also easily wait to order the jerseys until April-ish.

Edit: Just read the comment about paying for our own jerseys. In that case, lets make each check a round $60. This covers your jersey and your portion of the shipping.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Sounds great, Guys, this may end up being a semi-family trip, but my father and brother will be exploring the sights and sounds of chicago while we're shooting people. Ally, I'll get back to you on whether or not I need a ride back, but this is a for sure thing for me.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

twelvevoltoutlet - i see you have a Ego listed in your sig, is that what you will be shooting in Chicago? I think the plan was originally for everyone to shoot Angels for Chitown PSP.

[JDemonpbt]

The People have spoken! I'll try to work out the evil deal then. As far as white filled paint, I don't think evil has any, but though Archon I can get us White filled Inked paint. I just personnally think the fill on that is pretty weak, and runny. Just let me know though guys...

[paintchick79]

twelvevoltoutlet - i see you have a Ego listed in your sig, is that what you will be shooting in Chicago? I think the plan was originally for everyone to shoot Angels for Chitown PSP.

This may be an AOG team but not everyone on AOG still owns or shoots an Angel. Unless we get a WDP sponsorship, I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to use his Ego.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

yea, I figured since we didn't have a WDP sponsorship it would be fine.


At least its a euro gun.

[TheDragonJedi]

For those that are planning on staying the night at our place, I wanted to lay down some ground rules so there are no questions later on. My place is a small ranch house. Probably only have room for 3 people. We have no extra beds, only 2 sleeping bags. If you have something bring it.

1) Bring your own amenities. Food, Toothbrush, bath towels, etc. etc.

2) Due to some issues the second house is unavailable for the rest of the year.

3) We don't party late. In fact we hardly party. but this doesn't mean we can't have a few drinks. My wife usually works weekends and sometime has to be up at 3 am. I don't know what her schedule is like yet for that week. But in any case we cannot be loud.

4) we have a dog, he isn't very people friendly until after he's tired of barking which could be a long time. He shed's alot too. If you are allergic, be advised you probably don't want to spend the night.

5) I don't know anyone personally yet to determine if I could actually trust you. Don't be offended, as long as you do nothing wrong in my house and respect where you're at we're cool.

I've got xbox360 and PS2 for inhouse entertainment. There is a Denny, theater, hospital, hotel and bowling alley just down the street from me.
Take Aim is 30-45 mins from me. ChicagoLand is 45-1hr depending on traffic.

I need to hear from everyone that is staying at my place so I can determine who I might have room for.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

I will not be spending the night at your place, my dad decided that he's going to come down with me and he's getting a hotel, I'll be meeting up with you guys at Take Aim on sunday.
I need to know FOR SURE that we'll be at Take Aim, because that affects hotel reservations.

Other than that, I'm all set to go.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

I can not make it to the first practice, i will be out of town still. Ally, I need to know if you have paypal so I can pay for some of the jerseys.

[paintchick79]

**Nevermind - We have a place to stay**

Jon - I have paypal but I'd rather not use it for this, as it will just complicate things. Depending on how this all gets paid for, I will probably be depositing all of your checks into my account then making one big check out to Animal OR making a big check out to my mother, who will then pay via credit card.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

ight, ill prolly mail you the check then. PM your addy

[JDemonpbt]

OK guys, our First practice is THIS weekend, I plan to stay at your place to Rene, I'm totally cool with whatever you have available, I think I have a sleeping bag, if not I'll bring my own blankets and stuff. Hey I can sleep anywhere, I once slept on a Rock slab roof of a house in India with 130' heat. I plan to bring some Paintball DVD's if that ok. I've got PUSH, SUNDAY DRIVER'S, and LIFE ANGELS & DEMONS. I've also got Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball for xbox, Both the first one and the Maxed.
Okay guys, I need to know about paint. Do you guys want me to bring some Inked white filled paint, or not? I also recommend everyone bring a pen and notebook to discuss some team plans.
I plan to head up there this Friday afternoon, and be there later in the evening. If thats a problem, Rene let me know. Other then that, lets plan to meet up at Rene's house Saturday morning before going to TakeAim, unless you still have to work that morning?

[twelvevoltoutlet]

I won't be able to be there saturday morning, but I'll be leaving saturday night. If we get in early enough, I'll drop in to Rene's house, and meet everyone. If not, I'll just meet everyone in the morning.

[JDemonpbt]

PSP has there 07 schedule up on their website. www.pspevents.com looks like the Chicago leg will be held on June 20th-24th at the same place its been for the last two years or so.
I recommend we hold practices every second weekend of the month. Meaning
Feb 9th-11th
March 9th-11th
April 13th-15th
May 11th-13th
and Finally June 8th-10th pending tournament
Also they (PSP) have the Mid-Alantic tounament in March I think or maybe it was May Place is still to be determed, but you guys interested in playing in that one too, or how about World Cup at the end of the season?

[TheDragonJedi]

OK guys, our First practice is THIS weekend, I plan to stay at your place to Rene, I'm totally cool with whatever you have available, I think I have a sleeping bag, if not I'll bring my own blankets and stuff. Hey I can sleep anywhere, I once slept on a Rock slab roof of a house in India with 130' heat. I plan to bring some Paintball DVD's if that ok. I've got PUSH, SUNDAY DRIVER'S, and LIFE ANGELS & DEMONS. I've also got Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball for xbox, Both the first one and the Maxed.
Okay guys, I need to know about paint. Do you guys want me to bring some Inked white filled paint, or not? I also recommend everyone bring a pen and notebook to discuss some team plans.
I plan to head up there this Friday afternoon, and be there later in the evening. If thats a problem, Rene let me know. Other then that, lets plan to meet up at Rene's house Saturday morning before going to TakeAim, unless you still have to work that morning?

Bring all them DVD's. I don't work saturday, I've got Greg Hastings on PS2 already.

Ally so you will have a place for the night?

Oh yeah and for paint You can bring if you want. At field prices I think it will come out same either way for me, So no need to bring extra for me.

[TheDragonJedi]

ALLY!!!!!!!!!

Hold Off On The Jerseys for A Minute. I've PM'd You the Details.



ALSO EVERYONE MUST SHOW UP FOR PICTURES.

[twelvevoltoutlet]

Wait, show up at your place? Are you looking for a picture for this site, or PSP ID's? Because I'm pretty sure I won't get in until late, and we're about an hour away from where you are (5 minutes from the field)
My dad will be bringing a DSLR with a 70-300mm lens, from his brother.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

like I said, im out for playing, ill come to the practices when i can if they dont interfer with my team practices for NPPL/PSP

[JDemonpbt]

:puzzled: :puzzled: :again: ALLY!!!!!!!!!

Hold Off On The Jerseys for A Minute. I've PM'd You the Details.



ALSO EVERYONE MUST SHOW UP FOR PICTURES.

[JDemonpbt]

Oh paint will be $26 a case BTW if anyone is interested. Its cheep practice grade, but its a good round ball and will shoot nice, just weak on the fill.