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2theMaxx21
03-30-2003, 11:20 PM
This other Angel owner asked me this question today, and wasn't 100% positive what the correct answer is.

"Is it bad to dry fire an Angel?

Also, sometimes after a dry fire the bolt will be slightly stuck forward and I have to push it back to open the breech. Just wondering if this is bad or not."

ws4eva
03-31-2003, 12:32 AM
i hear that i isbad to dry fir any gun but i am not positive if that is true or not

Digitalpunk
03-31-2003, 03:37 AM
I don't know about bad, but it drains my tank pretty quick when i dry fire. As for the bolt staying too far forward, adjust your ram stroke.

Digital

Emmit
03-31-2003, 07:20 AM
dry fire as in fire the marker without paint???

you do realize that the marker doesn't know the difference between whether there is paint in it or not right? The thing about dry firing was brought on years ago with the Cockers, because people liked to cock it and then pull the trigger without air, this put undo stress etc on the springs, with an Angel it's impossible to do this because you have to have air or you're just clicking the solenoid and there's nothing wrong with cycling a solenoid.

Now firing the marker without paint and a bolt on the other hand is a no no. Don't do it, always cycle the marker with the bolt in it, and the breech closed.

2theMaxx21
03-31-2003, 11:05 AM
So you're saying that it's OK to fire an Angel with the Air turned on, bolt in the breech, but no paint?

The only time this guys bolt would stick forward is when he dry fired it. The bolt never sticks when there's paint in it. I don't think that means he needs to adjust the ram. Right?

Howitzer11
03-31-2003, 11:17 AM
Sounds like Emmit used to be a cocker faithfull at one time.?.

Emmit
03-31-2003, 11:27 AM
2themaxx......correct it is just fine to fire the marker without paint.....you're not hurting anything internally. As for why it would be sticking forward I am not 100% sure of why anyone's bolt would stick forward, the only time mine ever has is if I chopped and got shell stuck in there.... :dunno:

Howitzer....yes at one time I owned a Cocker, a 97 to be exact.....back before Angels hit the market

2theMaxx21
03-31-2003, 12:17 PM
Thanks. That's pretty much what I figured, but I didn't want to hand out any information that I wasn't 100% sure about.

angeluser
03-31-2003, 05:41 PM
I dont really think dry firing is bad for your angel withthe bolt in.
One time I forgot to put my bolt in and fired it with paint and It was the worst mess ever.
On the thing where your bolt gets stuck foward I've had that happen when i shot out the left over air in the gun after i take my tank off but that dont hurt it.

tgallo
03-31-2003, 05:52 PM
If you fire without a bolt what kind of damage can it do?

Jedrith
03-31-2003, 06:34 PM
No 'real' damage to the gun, just a GIANT mess as every single ball in your feed neck breaks, and ozzes down into where your hammer sits.

tgallo
03-31-2003, 10:04 PM
Well Emmit said
"Now firing the marker without paint and a bolt on the other hand is a no no. Don't do it, always cycle the marker with the bolt in it, and the breech closed."

Why is this? What can happen?

Just curious.

Digitalpunk
03-31-2003, 10:22 PM
I've had some pretty bad messes in my iR3, and some seeps back into the breach so sometimes i'll dry fire it without the bolt, but with the breach open to eject any paint that's in that little hole.

Digital

Bulldogg
03-31-2003, 10:30 PM
Actually, dry firing without the bolt in with the breech closed will warp the breech, or so I've been told.

2theMaxx21
03-31-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Bulldogg
Actually, dry firing without the bolt in with the breech closed will warp the breech, or so I've been told.

I've never done it, but I don't think it would hurt the breech. It would just be air flowing through there.

But I could see how firing without the bolt wouldn't be good on the ram or the other internals.