oiling the a4

[Franks]

i have noticed that my a4 has some black oil and i am thinking of taking out the ram and stuff to clean it and reoiling it, so my question is, how do u take out the ram, i read the manual and it says to use the ram location tool, i dont know what that is and i dont have circlip pliers to take it out. i have never removed the ram before so i dont know what to expect. also do i have to remove the exhaust valve stem to oil the gun? any info on how to take the ram out and oiling the gun will help. thanks.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

get this: http://secure.fixmyangel.com/modules.php?name=catalog&file=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=249&osCsid=87af28abe5a59081ecb0f51dbbd04153

or this: http://secure.fixmyangel.com/catalog-product50

(damn feel like i am advertising for Bob this is like the 5th time ive posted an FMA link today haha, o well hes flying my gun)

[Franks]

ok thanks man, now do i need to take out the exhaust valve stem too? and what kind of angel oil should i use?, there are so many like the angel force gun grease, angel force oil, and the love juice oil...does it even matter which one i use??

[xxmjumpman23xx]

I dont think it matters but I use love juice, I'm not about the exhaust stem, I havent taken apart my gun yet it only has about 11,000 shots, someone help this guy out!

[Franks]

ok so i went ahead and bought the ram multi tool kit combo and some love juice, so when i get it i should take out the ram clean out all that black crap, put the ram back in, and put some love juice in through the breech and ASA, then take a couple of shots??? or is that the wrong way to do it??

[plum]

i heard you gotta make sure your breech and bolt are dry, they arent supposed to be oiled. To oil just drop some into the macroline, plug it back in and go on shooting and your set, can someone back me up on this?

[xxmjumpman23xx]

Yes its true, do not oil the breech and especially the bolt the delrin will absorb the oil and swell

[RangerJoe]

You can take you exhaust valve out to check for wear and if it needs new o-rings. I know how to take an 05 speed valve out but not sure how for a a4.

[Franks]

oops ive been putting drops in the breech b/c i heard from klassy guy that your suppost to do that...

[RangerJoe]

no no oil in breech. your bolt will swell(delrin swells with oil)

[Franks]

whoa wait i just read the manual and it says to lub the ram with love juice extreme grease before re-inserting it...but thats not putting oil in the breech, can i also use love juice oil instead??

[RangerJoe]

yea ur supposed to grease the ram.....the bolt and ram are two differnt things lol

[Franks]

ok...i see, is it ok to use love juice oil instead of the grease?

[RangerJoe]

wait you mean to use oil on the ram? well for the ram you just grease the o-rings so use grease.

[Franks]

crap i dont got grease, ill just use the extra grease i saw in the back plate when i opened it once

[RangerJoe]

you dont have to grease the o-rings if they have grease on them:stooges:

[Franks]

wow ur really making me feel dumb, thanks lol

[RangerJoe]

No problem, but what you can do (when you get ur grease) is to wipe all the old grease off, inspect teh o-rings to nicks or damage, replace(if necisaery) then re-lube.

[Franks]

well actually i was thinking of clean out all that crap and re-oiling / re-greasing it but yeah i dont got grease

[RangerJoe]

yea either pick some up or order some from BoB or Ken. then check o-rings and re-lube.

[Franks]

so u think i should clean everythnig and leave the grease on the o-rings?

[RangerJoe]

wait untill you get some grease, then wipe off old grease, inspect o-rings, replace if u need too, then re-grease.

[plum]

shoudlnt putting love juice into the macroline do the same thing, because itll eventually make its way into there right?

[RangerJoe]

it will go into the lpr...if put in the macro line.

[Franks]

question, what does TR mean?

[RangerJoe]

when you TR is high you will have more bounce. with the lowest TR setting you will have lowest bounce. "Trigger Offset"

[Franks]

ok one more question what is the stock LPR pressure, like whast the amount of pressure do normal stock angel4 come in? b/c i wanna set my LPR pressure without buying the kit. lol

[RangerJoe]

well around 65psi.....and what kit do you mean?

[Franks]

http://secure.fixmyangel.com/catalog-product50

that one to measure the pressure

[RangerJoe]

how do plan on setting the pressure without knowing what it is? thats why you should buy the kit lol

[Franks]

i know! im too cheap to buy it, thats y i asked wahst the stock pressure.

[RangerJoe]

yea but how you gunna know when ur at the stock pressure:notsure: (hint..you need a gauge)

[Franks]

what i can do is ask someone with the right amount of LPR pressure and ask them the number of shims they got in their angel and i will leave the same amount of shims in my angel... :P

[RangerJoe]

all guns are differnt. Somebody with 5 shims to get at 65psi, might take another persons gun to have 8 shims. I would buy the kit. I did. Plus youll need it to get the shims out, ram out.

[Franks]

yeah but the thing is i already bought this kit... http://secure.fixmyangel.com/catalog-product250

and i dont wanna send another 40 or so on that other kit

[RangerJoe]

yea thats the one i have. Theres a gauge in there:stooges: so you can measure your lpr pressure, and take out your lpr, and ram.

[Franks]

no way really??!! that black multi kit i just showed u??

[RangerJoe]

yes. you unscrew the sections and theres a small gauge you screw on to the lpr cap. if you really need a pic ill take one.

[Franks]

wow thats great...sure u can show me a picture if u want

[RangerJoe]

gimmie acouple mins and ill grab my brothers camera.

[Franks]

by the way what do u have ur LPR pressure at?? or what i mean is what should it be at, b/c i hear differnt numbers from everyone...Ken says around 60 but the manual says it should be at 82psi

[RangerJoe]

well i have an 05 speed wiht evolve so im running at 45. But Im not sure for a4

[Franks]

o ok

[RangerJoe]

here Note(gauge is in "Bar" so 1 Bar= 14.5038psi so you have to do some calculations to figure out where your lpr is at)

[Franks]

wow u just confused the crap out of me lol

[Franks]

oooooo nevermind i get it okokokokok i get it

[Franks]

i got the tool kit and my LPR is at around 58.0152psi or "4 bar" should i lower it or not?

[Franks]

y doesnt anyone answer my question??? ^^ :(

[Trigga Nometry]

If you are not getting any shoot down during high ROF's then you could lower it. Some lower the LPR until they see drop off and then from there slightly increase it and leave it. But right now, you are close to the recommended LPR pressure.

[Franks]

okay