Carbon fiber angel

[John Rambo]

I would like to have a carbon fiber Angel. It could be the same as the stiffi mamba switch kit. If it were an A1 that would be insanly light. All the plastic or metal parts could be carbon fiber plus the marker body. The only down side would be cost it would be expensive to make, making it expensive to buy but that would be cool.

[NitroBall]

With a marker being so light weight, with bottle and hopper attatched , make the marker feel unbalance ?

[reptilejd9]

for that weight loss, i'ed be willing to put a little extra force on one end of my gun. but dosent carbon fiber have to be made like in sheets, because the only carbon fiber things i have ever seen are all just thin walled things, how would you get the part in the center of the 3 tubes made so that the air passage can be drilled into it?

[NitroBall]

even if it was possible to make a marker out of carbon fibre, you would need to make threading to accomodate screws.
How would you think it would cope with air pressure ?

[John Rambo]

It would have to some kind of acrlic layer around it. And have a thin metal liner. For the threads they would not be fine threads they would have to have each thread be at least a half inch thick with a total of 4 threads making it add to two inches. Something like that. But with the mamba switch they would just follow the same disign process. But i am sure if they were going to do it they would find a way that no one has heard of.

[Shades]

It would be possible to laminate wrap an Angel in carbon fibber, very similar to how you produce composite air cylinders.

[pa8ntballar]

or make a angel out of titanium. titanium has the weight of aluminum but stonger then steel. it couldnt be anoed but the could color it some other way. but titanium is very exspensive. the gun could be made lighter because since the titanium is stronger the walls could be made thiner(if they can be). plus it would be harder to strip any threads. and cooler

[RangerJoe]

but we wouldnt be looking at the $1200 for the A1 thats out. But i wonder how much they would sell it for if it was outa Titanium.

[BMW328AW]

just a fact, carbon fibre is stronger than steel btw. So i dont think air pressure should be a problem. However it can only be molded into thin shapes, not thick pieces like how the body of the angel is. If it were going to be carbon fibre, you'd have to make it a hybrid of the outside being carbon fibre and internals being normal materials.

[BAKERmancan]

just a fact, carbon fibre is stronger than steel btw. So i dont think air pressure should be a problem. However it can only be molded into thin shapes, not thick pieces like how the body of the angel is. If it were going to be carbon fibre, you'd have to make it a hybrid of the outside being carbon fibre and internals being normal materials.


yeah air tanks are made of carbon fiber don't forget guy :P...4500 psi no problem...tested @ over 6000 psi

yeah even if the made a fiber body...it would have to be wrapped like a bottle to withstand the pressure like a tank does...maybe not as much though since it wont need to hold but up to 400-600 psi tops (to be safe)

after this process + the normal metal/steel internals i dont think it would weigh less... i actually think my tank weighs more than my fly does even when empty

[John Rambo]

WHat we need is for some one to tell us how much the internals weigh and how much the body of the G7 fly weighs. Then i m sure theres some way to convert it. To find out how much less the body would way in carbon fiber compared to aluminum. Then find out what internals could be made carbon fiber then find the wieght loss. But think of how loud it would'nt be. Just like with stiffi how they're barrels make less noise then any other im sure the same would go for a cabon fiber gun.

I bet they could find way to come out will some cool colors and fades too.

[reptilejd9]

maby just parts of the angel, like the grip-frame, the eye covers, the trigger, the back plates/backends, feedneck, a carbon fiber bolt would reduce cycleing mass, and a hammer/ram 2, and whatabout only makeing the exterior walls carbonfiber, and have a mettal core?

[John Rambo]

:hitit: thats what we thought above, having the marker body all carbon fiber then have a thin metal liner on the inside of the gun.

[d0cwh0]

Couldn't you just make the bolt and hammer/ram out of delrin...that would reduce the weight alot and make the maker run smoother

[John Rambo]

If you used a remote coil then the tank weight would be gone so the gun would be more balanced.

[Trance.]

If you used a remote coil then the tank weight would be gone so the gun would be more balanced.


but you would look like a total tool, and probably get lit up.


carbon fiber guns aren't a practical aplication of the material, besides the shortage of the fiber to make tanks, let alone guns... HAH... some people

[i luv me angel]

you would have no problem making the whole gun out of carbon fiber because it is stronger than steal and sence it is put down in layers they could make it into a block of solid carbon fiber and machine it out like they do now with aluminum
me dad have been talking about this same subject for a while now and he thinks it is possible and besieds my dad has made motercycle parts out fiberglass and it is like the same thing.

[John Rambo]

You guys should do it just make the body of it and use the stock parts.

[d0cwh0]

It's tough to shape carbon fiber because it is flexible only one way and rigid the other

[tguns_420]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANGEL-SPEED-06-1-OF-A-KIND-BLUE-CARBONFIBER-EGO-DM6_W0QQitemZ150007032652QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47243Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
check this out:boobies: :boobies: :boobies: :boobies:

[John Rambo]

It seams a little fishy to me. See how it says carbon dipped and that it is coated on. I think this is just painted on.

If it was realy going to be done a nomal G7 would be better to do since the milling does not have that stuff on the back like the fly. Or even better the A1 small and simple milling.

[Brad7]

It seams a little fishy to me. See how it says carbon dipped and that it is coated on. I think this is just painted on.

If it was realy going to be done a nomal G7 would be better to do since the milling does not have that stuff on the back like the fly. Or even better the A1 small and simple milling.


Yes, it is not an actual carbon fiber Angel. It is just dipped in carbon fiber for cosmetics only. No actual gain, purely cosmetic.

[i luv me angel]

You guys should do it just make the body of it and use the stock parts.
we would but it would be an outradigous price

donations anyone j/klol

[i luv me angel]

It's tough to shape carbon fiber because it is flexible only one way and rigid the other
that is why you make it into a block and machine it like i said before

[d0cwh0]

I think you would actually have to wrap the aluminum with the carbon fiber...not shape it...you think you could use delrin in place of aluminum because it is self lubricating

[tex56]

I don't think it is dipped. I am pretty sure it is a sticker like deal, not sure the scientific name. SPO gear used to do custom work like this.

http://206.188.200.106/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=11

[John Rambo]

Stiffi just came out with a carbon fiber bolt but none for angels.