View Full Version : Bluetooth Intelifeed
NATERATER
06-12-2006, 10:31 PM
So I JUST got my new Facefull in the mail today and just skimmed through it seeing the bluetooth thing. So is b/t intelifeed possible?
AZIROC
06-12-2006, 11:36 PM
i got that issue last week and read the same article. in a way, anything is possible. be kinda cool, less cords/wire to get in the way/have to install. but like the article said, with the good comes the bad. last thing u want to happen is someone being able to "hack" into ur blue tooth board and screw with ur settings without u even knowing.
splatman2k
09-25-2006, 01:22 PM
I thought the advantage to bluetooth was that it is secure? I guess anything can be hacked with enough time/effort, but I wouldn't be too worried in this setting.
wolfram075
09-25-2006, 04:06 PM
ha ha youd be supprises what some people will do to win...
Mavrick
09-25-2006, 04:22 PM
ha ha you'd be supprises what some people will do to win...
My thoughts exactly! Jamming or hacking is not all that difficult to do if you have the proper tools. I was looking into wireless intellifeed and walked away from it. To much hassle with expense to make it all happen. Certain wireless frequencies you have to apply to the feds for approval. I sure didn't want to go there.
Just a quick note on Bluetooth or just about any other wireless technology:
Given that you know the frequency you're looking for as a 'bad person'... and you would for a marketed product...
1) Hacking is still difficult for bluetooth but not impossible.
2) Jamming is EASY.
Jamming would be enough. Enough that you won't see wireless in this situation until you have completely switchable wireless frequencies for them. Of course this means both receiver and sending end both need to be a better technology which means higher cost. It also runs into available bands... which as Mavrick points out, runs into many federal regulations.
In summary: It could be done, but it's not a good plan for a competitive team... yet.
for2nato
09-25-2006, 07:25 PM
i know a little something about wireless technology. so here goes. hacking a fixed signal is a relatively easy thing to do, even if you dont know the frequency. all you need is a frequency scanner and you will have it in a matter of seconds. but frequency isnt all that matters. theres that little thing called a "pin". bluetooth uses a pin to secure the link. without this pin there is no access to the signal or the settings. again, this is not a hard thing to bypass. with that said, being as the loader is so close to the marker you could fine tune the signal strength to be pretty low. meaning someone would have to be very close to hack your signal. also a rolling encryption could be implemented. this is fairly comon and very secure. the theory is that every second the base unit changes the code and relays it to the reciever. changing the code this often doesnt allow someone to gain a link the the signal long enough to actually use it. this is very comon on most car alarms now days. it stops someone from sitting nextdoor to your house with a freq. scanner and grabbing your signal so they can come back later and steal your stuff.
the technology is coming. so wait for everyone else to work out the bugs, and then embrase the §§§§ out of it!
Vantage_TeS
09-25-2006, 10:46 PM
Too much delay. When you are shooting 30 bps, yes that delay makes a big difference.
for2nato
09-26-2006, 02:24 AM
can you shoot 30bps? if so post a vid.
what your sayin is totaly true, for now anyway. giving the fact that a rf wave travels way faster than your finger. i think they will eventualy work out the kinks. if they can drop the latency down enough you would never know the difference.
MVpaintball
09-26-2006, 11:07 AM
WOW, you guys are up here->
and my head is down here->
bakonbitz888
09-26-2006, 09:11 PM
or u could just shooot 15 like everyone else and buy a feed cone and some stickers for ur hoppers
Brad7
09-26-2006, 11:15 PM
Don't even need the drive cone...each sticker on my hopper adds another bps to the feeding rate!
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