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Sportsman
02-14-2006, 11:08 PM
HEy I have heard people say take your magent out of your vernier wheel but I was wondering which one and does it really increase your rate of fire, or quickness of the trigger???

Thanks

Sportsman
02-14-2006, 11:13 PM
Also how is it done if it makes a difference???

Im guessing you just take a screwdriver to it or something

Sportsman
02-15-2006, 04:21 PM
Anyone???...


Frazer?????

firemedic30
02-15-2006, 04:30 PM
A lot of the guys have taken the rear one out.

I did, and really did not see all that big of a deal. I may have not done it correctly or got it set up afterward. Hopefully someone who has done it will comment on it.

As far as taking it, I elected to take the one on the trigger out instead.

ArtofWar
02-15-2006, 04:48 PM
Thanks to Zackel, and trigga nometry i was ably to sucessfully apply this mod and even give adice to others...
Yes, it is a good modification, for the simple fact that i went from an A-5 to the g7. so that means i didnt have the fast fingers. well no with this mod setup i think i getting up there with my cordination and speed. Some will say drill it out, and some will say wrench it out. honestly. i took a little flat head (like the size of the eyeglass repair kit) and it took me 1 sec. just pop it out. if its not that easy there post back up him and will try again. its the back vernier wheel, not the back magnet to the trigger. and getting use to it is quick, meaning noticing the difference is instantly. and it increases the your quickness in trigger pulling without the magnet force interferring

rix123
02-15-2006, 04:49 PM
...which magnet you remove depends on your individual tastes. What is important is to understand how the magnets work in the mechanical sense.

the front magnet 'attracts', i.e. it "pulls" the trigger forward when the trigger is released...

the rear magnet 'repels', i.e. it 'pushes' the trigger forward when the trigger is released...

the amount of force exerted during either of these actions is dependent upon the strength of the magnets involved (which necessarily does not equate to physical size).

process of removing the magnets from the venier wheels will vary from marker to marker (or should I say wheels :) ), I've had some just pop out by flexing the wheel, others requiring prying out with a pick...

firemedic30
02-15-2006, 04:52 PM
So you are saying take the whole wheel out, not just the magnet????

1865
02-15-2006, 05:00 PM
Do a search and you can find several good threads on this mod, how to do it and the pros and cons.

Sportsman
02-15-2006, 05:47 PM
ive searched and couldnt find any but ohwell i will try it and thanks for the help guys

Sportsman
02-15-2006, 06:38 PM
Just tryed and there is no way its coming off. I tryed bending the wheel, I tryed using small pair or flathead screwdriver I tryed a small allen key I dont know what else to try

ArtofWar
02-16-2006, 12:12 PM
some g7 mods may be glue a bit more. i used and small flathead and pryed it a bit and it pop out. trigga nometry who is a member of aog, who you kind find easly on other threads recommended drilling it out. i wasnt feeling that, cause i was scared of messing it up. so i was going to order a back up, knowing it wouldnt cost me that much, but one day i just tryed without ordering the back up and it pop out. the magnent is just sligthly glud in there. its not screwed in or anything. and then you save the magnent for whatever reason, so you can just glue it back like nothing. you know its the wheel not the trigger magnent. and do you know you have to disconnect the whole hand grip along with unplugging all the wires. to actually take the wheel out the frame and have it just in your hand to mess with it, ive tryed to do it in place cause i didnt want to take apart the hand grip and mess it up. dont be afraid open it carefully and remember what goes where and it will be kool.

Sportsman
02-16-2006, 02:29 PM
Ive tooken my gun apart many times lol not scared of that but it is being a pain to take out I guess I will keep trying but Im not drilling it out lol incase I dont like the new feel but thanks for the help

uniquenewyork15
02-16-2006, 03:57 PM
you know its the wheel not the trigger magnent. and do you know you have to disconnect the whole hand grip along with unplugging all the wires.
you dont have to disconnect all the wires.

Sportsman
02-16-2006, 04:52 PM
I know this but I do anywayz b/c I take the frame off aswell

Pest2001
02-16-2006, 08:39 PM
i removed the rear magnet and i had to flip the front so that the trigger would return

ElectroCanadian
02-17-2006, 12:55 PM
I did this mod to my g7 the other day and OMG it rips like you can't believe. I have a bad feeling that it is no longer legal? Has anybody had this problem where you think your gun is to fast to be legal? Can it change the gun to be illegal with this mod?

Thanks

armadasekurity
02-17-2006, 08:32 PM
yeah this is definetley a good question becuase FMA just did this mod to my gun does anyone know if it makes the gun illegal? or if i can adjust it to make it legal.

Sportsman
02-17-2006, 08:37 PM
same question here lol need to know before I take it out but I would think its legal as long as you dont bounce lol thats what I think but somebody who knows come on here and tell us so we can become smarter :bouncer:

uniquenewyork15
02-17-2006, 09:25 PM
well it depends. if its bouncing like crazy then its illegal. if its just fast cuz your have fast fingers then it is legal. pretty self-explanitory

armadasekurity
02-19-2006, 01:31 AM
yeah i dont know because i went to a tourney today and i put my gun at tr 1 mdb 1 and i could still rip 20 bps, or at least thats what my rof meter said, and it was pretty consistant roping. So im not sure.

armadasekurity
02-27-2006, 12:18 AM
does anyone know?

rix123
02-27-2006, 07:18 PM
..regardless of what a "rof meter" might say, ALL of the WDP boards as well as the new TADAO boards have the adjustment capability to limit the markers ROF. RTFM :) ...all of your questions can be answered there, it just takes time...to read, then apply...

armadasekurity
02-27-2006, 09:10 PM
no my question was, could it still be considered bouncing by a referee, even though all settings are at 1.

Sportsman
02-27-2006, 09:12 PM
heck yesssss lol. Bouncing is if the trigger moves more than you are shooting it therefore if you are pushing your fingers 5bps and the trigger bounces even though its a TR 1 is still considered bouncing. Bouncing is Bouncing.

BTW I finally go my magnet out and it rocks so much nicer:evilgrin:

rix123
02-28-2006, 11:15 PM
...well, to answer your "question" with more specifity, todays electronically activated markers do so via a combination of mechanical and electrical processes COMBINED. Example: YOU exert mechanical force on the trigger by pulling it, which in turn intiates another mechanical force, movement, to activate a switch (micro or optical) which in turn intiates an electrical process (send signal to board processor)...get the picture?

...despite setting the TR @1, you can still set the 'mechanical' adjustment so close that it is still get 'bounce' due the mechanical movement as you get the 'action-reaction' phenomena due to mass movement...:)

...the use of magnets in the system are done to enhance the 'mechanical' aspects of the overall process by either increasing or decreasing force required....