breeches are gay

[DarkAngel2k2]

I cant open my breech... the bolt is ALL THE WAY BACK . What else could be the problem?

[Trigga Nometry]

I am moving this to the general paintball chat.

Which Angel do you have?

[uniquenewyork15]

mis-aligned breach possibly.

[firemedic30]

Is the spring broke?? Did you pull the pin back??

Just trying to weed out possibilties??

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

The rod in the breech might be too tight. But surely you can just unscrew the back plate then remove the rod out.

[DarkAngel2k2]

dark 2k2 angel is the gun I have and I just got it so I Dont know anything about angels so please explain in great detail thanks a lot!

[dusted]

do u know what your breech knob looks like ?

[DarkAngel2k2]

the metal rod is taken out that locks the breech in place. If thats what your talkin about... if not then no = )

[dusted]

just to make sure, when looking at your back plate which pin is removed the right one or the left one

[DarkAngel2k2]

right

[dusted]

ok take barrel off and using a swab or squeegee push against the bolt, dont §§§§§ around, really push. the reason for this is sometimes a piece of the shell becomes lodged in between the bolt and frame and does not allow the bolt to fully return to the rear.

the first time i did this i was afraid id break it but dont worry. do not use anything really hard as you do not want to break the soft face on bolt.

[DarkAngel2k2]

i dont have any thing to push it with except my finger... so id need to push REALLY hard?

[DarkAngel2k2]

brb ill try it

[dusted]

wrap a wrag over your tooth brush and try

[uniquenewyork15]

o a back of a pencil, aka the eraser part.

[dusted]

i might still place a rag over it and dont twist just push

[DarkAngel2k2]

i put a peice of padding in there, put the plastic hard end of a screwdriver in there and smacked the §§§§ out of it with a hammer and nothing but I dont think its the bolt thats forward

[dusted]

do u have a putty knife or anything plastic you can use as a lever to pry breech open ?

[DarkAngel2k2]

ya what would be the cause of that though i mean I dont want to bend or snap anything

[DarkAngel2k2]

that didnt work and i found out that it IS the bolt but it wont go back anymore is there a way to take the bolt out w/o touckhing the solenoid?

[dusted]

that im not sure, your best bet is to contact one of the "master techs" they are on aog's main page. where do u live ?

[firemedic30]

The pin is back right??

[DarkAngel2k2]

the metal pin on the right yes it is

[DarkAngel2k2]

with the white thing on the side to make sure its in straight ya thats out

[firemedic30]

OK. Look at where the pin comes out of that hole. Is it back far enough that it is not still in the breech?

[firemedic30]

Is there any wiggle or play to it whatsoever??

[DarkAngel2k2]

ya I took it totally out and the backplate off

[firemedic30]

Ok...how about the play?

[DarkAngel2k2]

play?

[firemedic30]

Can you wiggle the breech ANY???? Or is it so tight that it won't move??

[DarkAngel2k2]

you can wiggle the breech until the bolt hits the top of a part that dosent go up.... i cant push it back at all with anything though = /

[DarkAngel2k2]

i used a screw driver and cusion thingy with a hammer and all my weight like 150 and it wont budge

[DarkAngel2k2]

^^the bolt I mean

[firemedic30]

try to work on the two breech screws. They are the very little screws on either end of the gun!

[Luc]

Your ram may be too far forward. Take off the back plat and unscrew the ram until the breech can open.

[DarkAngel2k2]

Luc your my hero FIXED!!!! THANKS A LOT FIRE AND THE GUY WHO HELPED AT THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusted]

thats why we are here

[DarkAngel2k2]

^^i meant you by the guy that helped before = )^^

[Talon]

Good call Luc. The whole time I was reading this thread that's what I was thinking.

Be careful when reinserting the ram/hammer assembly. Make sure the hammer is pushed back against the ram and slowly screw it into the tube till you see the groove completely in the slot in the breech. After that, I'd try and close the breech with the bolt in the right position and listen for a metal to metal click that is the bolt pin rubbing against the back of the groove. If the ram is too far forward, you should take it out and start over.

[Luc]

Luc your my hero FIXED!!!!
Well just doing my job, as a unofficial, untrained, uncertified, unmotivated, angel wanabee master tech. I prefer to fix tippmann's then angel but well some things on angels are simple enough.

I just tought you guys would have though of that by now, I just said what I did when my ram was too far forward. But yeah your welcome.

[hgroberts]

o a back of a pencil, aka the eraser part.
lol