Any insight into the new 06 Angels?

[Joy Stick-Conor]

^ as it says, just wondering what we can expect at HB.

[Presto333]

i think we can look forward to something completely different and hopefully revolutionary/awesome...

[Minnesota Balla]

I hope it is something new and revolutionary. I have all hope in WDP for creating something new.:boobies:

[Presto333]

i remember john rice saying something to the affect that they've taken the 3-tube design as far as it has gone, and knowing wdp they always do their own thing instead of following other companies, so i think its safe to expect something amazing in the future

[lrdbsalt]

yea i cant wait to see them it should be REALLY COOL

[Paladin]

I can't wait to see what comes next, wait maybe I can, I like my G7 Fly's resale value as it is... Maybe you could give me a month heads-up so I can sell it and get the new gun :D

[SD-G-force]

so are we for sure going to expect a gun to come out at HB?

[muppetmowerpb]

I was told end of summer is when it should come out. I heard it might just be like a timmy/ego style platform. Half the guys here that say they hate timmys/ego's will buy one because it says angel on it.

[JackalVR6]

I was told end of summer is when it should come out. I heard it might just be like a timmy/ego style platform. Half the guys here that say they hate timmys/ego's will buy one because it says angel on it.

dude dont bash the team

[tgallo]

I was told end of summer is when it should come out. I heard it might just be like a timmy/ego style platform. Half the guys here that say they hate timmys/ego's will buy one because it says angel on it.

It's possible but seems pointless. If the reason they are leaving their current platform is because it's gone as far as it can go why would they fall back onto an existing platform. They would be better off just sticking with their current one.

[NickyD]

Well, instead of three tubes I say thay could go two tubes, but the bottom one could be slightly wider to accommodate wires and such

[lrdbsalt]

yea i cant see them useing someone elses platform but i bet they are changeing WDP's quite a bit.

[SD-G-force]

I was told end of summer is when it should come out.
yeah that's what i thought; most of the new guns came out for the cup like the dm6 and such; i kind of like nickyd's idea except it would still kind of look like a 3tube platform

[NickyD]

Also, as much as I hate to see the 3 tube design go, let's face it, it was dead weight. It had no purpose other than to hold the battery/wires.

But, if they get rid of it, that means they will have to switch to 9v batteries...or possibly a 9.6 v rechargeable, like a spyder.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

I like the 3 tube platform.

[1 Evil Package]

but if they go into the 9v battery design? would that effect the size of the LCD screen? or maybe even lose it?

[lrdbsalt]

i know i love the 3 tube design but i dont know if they are keeping it.... id hate to see it go and yes i think it would make the LCD smaller.... LEDs might be the future

[Presto333]

according to john rice, they've gone as far as they can with the 3-tube design, which would leave u to believe they r changing it

[1 Evil Package]

NOOOOO!!!!! they cant change the 3 tube design....thats what makes the angel!!!

[tgallo]

NOOOOO!!!!! they cant change the 3 tube design....thats what makes the angel!!!

maybe they'll change the name as well :shocked:

[lrdbsalt]

according to john rice, they've gone as far as they can with the 3-tube design, which would leave u to believe they r changing it

yea i heard that too so im going to be expecting a less then 3 but more then 1 tube design. sad though it is i supose it is for the best.

[Joy Stick-Conor]

I think it's time for a whole new marker design, in my opinion.

[Minnesota Balla]

me too. The 3 tube has been around for along time, and if you think about it almost every time a company came out with a new design (Timmie,DM4,Angel) people started buying more of it so maybe this will help put Angel in a better spot financially too. I hope this is how it works out. :x:

[mlinder]

i wouldn't hold my breath for a 2 tube design and i don't see what the big deal is anyway i have no problem with the 3 tube design

[RaistlinsLegacy]

i like the three tube design. however while i do like the angel battery (i tend to forget to replace 9 volts in hoppers and such) i think AKA used the 3 tubes a little more efficiently (yes i know that vikings and excals dont looke like much but i am a big aka fan)

[solid snake]

The 06 Angels are here:

G7 FLY flagship
06 Gat Middle end
06 SPEED low end

I would expect something towards the end of 2006. I've been shooting angels before most of you started playing paintball. Thats my take on that.

[Presto333]

i dunno. the g7 platform was introduced commander's cup 04, and the g7 fly is basically just an extension of that. the gat is a private label gun so that doesn't rly count. And the 06 speed is just like how the 05 speed was when that came out. HB is usually a pretty big event for wdp, i think they'll be releasing something there...

[ibis]

I agree with snake.
I really dont think there will be a new angel until the end of 2k6, and they will be the 2k7 model. Looking back that is how they have done it in the past.

[dusted]

according to john rice, they've gone as far as they can with the 3-tube design, which would leave u to believe they r changing it

lets just say the 3 tube as we know it, is gone in regards to the next angels to be produced in the future.

a little birdie told me

[lrdbsalt]

lets just say the 3 tube as we know it, is gone in regards to the next angels to be produced in the future.

a little birdie told me


/me throws self on floor and cries, "WHY GOD WHY?!?!"

[Minnesota Balla]

lets just say the 3 tube as we know it, is gone in regards to the next angels to be produced in the future.

a little birdie told me

:bouncer: That news makes me happy.

[Joy Stick-Conor]

There isn't much left to do with the three tube design(anything drastic to say the least).if the go with a 2 tube or something I bet it will kick ass. I guess we can wait until HB, when it should come out.

[SD-G-force]

hmmmm how come there is never any two tubed platforms where the tubes are next to each other rather then stacked? i think that would be sorta cool to be different...

[eVoPaNoP]

hmmmm how come there is never any two tubed platforms where the tubes are next to each other rather then stacked? i think that would be sorta cool to be different...

Interesting idea... they could basically make it like the 3 tube design they have now, but remove only the top tube. Might be a little wide, but who knows... I think it'd be pretty cool. :cheers:

[mlinder]

how would another 2 tube gun be different there are already several 2 tube platforms out there the 3 tube design is what makes angels what they are

[SD-G-force]

theyve taken their 3tubed platform as far as it can go, plus one tube just basically holds wires, thats pointless; the two tubed designed i was thinking of would be different because it wouldnt be stacked making it sort of a wide shocker(only thing i could think of)

[pbviper420]

Personally i don't like 9V batteries in guns. It sort of takes away from the meaning of High end gun. I like charging my gun and getting like 5 cases of paint out of it. Also 9V batteries are expensive to replace. I'm sure angel will do somthing innovative, but maybe they will find a way to combine the battery with some internals in one of the tubes? maybe not.

[eVoPaNoP]

theyve taken their 3tubed platform as far as it can go, plus one tube just basically holds wires, thats pointless; the two tubed designed i was thinking of would be different because it wouldnt be stacked making it sort of a wide shocker(only thing i could think of)

Well, from what I can tell... the top tube holds the bolt & battery, and the bottom right tube holds the ram & hammer... but what exactly is in the bottom left tube? lol Looking at the internal placement of parts in the Angel I don't see a reason why they couldn't re-arrange it to make it into a two-tube design. Even if they were stacked vertically, like most other markers out there, it would be fine with me... as long as they kept the roto-breach, and the typical Angel "look". :cheers:

Personally i don't like 9V batteries in guns. It sort of takes away from the meaning of High end gun. I like charging my gun and getting like 5 cases of paint out of it. Also 9V batteries are expensive to replace. I'm sure angel will do somthing innovative, but maybe they will find a way to combine the battery with some internals in one of the tubes? maybe not.

I agree, pbviper420. Having to change 9V batteries all the time is a pain the butt, and they can end up getting quite expensive, as well. I would opt for a rechargable solution like they currently have. :)

[mlinder]

top tube holds the bolt and solenoid bottom right (looking from the back) hold the ram and valve and the left tube holds the battery and the lpr

[eVoPaNoP]

top tube holds the bolt and solenoid bottom right (looking from the back) hold the ram and valve and the left tube holds the battery and the lpr

Ahhhh... ok. Then I retract my previous statement. It may not be as easy as I had originally thought, to make it into a two-tube design. lol

[lrdbsalt]

as long as they kept the roto-breach, and the typical Angel "look". :cheers:

The typical angel "look" is the 3 tube! thats what makes angels the angels we know and love. if they rearange things into a 2 tube they will have to do alot of brainstorming (or probably already have) to make it look different from all thousand two tube guns out there already.

[Minnesota Balla]

What would be sweet is if they created a new platform. I dont think that will happen but I wouldnt put it past WDP.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

The typical angel "look" is the 3 tube! thats what makes angels the angels we know and love. if they rearange things into a 2 tube they will have to do alot of brainstorming (or probably already have) to make it look different from all thousand two tube guns out there already.
Ya because my favorite thing about owning an Angel is when you go to a tourney or a field and people see your gun the are like "Holy $hit this guy has an Angel we are screwed!!" or "Angels are the best guns ever!!". And if WDP gets ride of the 3 tube design it will be hard to distinguish an Angel from every other marker, because the 3 tube platform is part of it's heritage.

[lrdbsalt]

Ya because my favorite thing about owning an Angel is when you go to a tourney or a field and people see your gun the are like "Holy $hit this guy has an Angel we are screwed!!" or "Angels are the best guns ever!!". And if WDP gets ride of the 3 tube design it will be hard to distinguish an Angel from every other marker, because the 3 tube platform is part of it's heritage.

AMEN! :cheers:

[FrankG7]

i like the three tube desighn but i think that the bottom two tubes should be a tad small to keep the gun slimmer. it is hard on the g7 to use the trigg adjusts cause the tubes are to fat.

[NickyD]

while that is true...now you will have to wait until you mow some faces for people to say 'Holy $hit that guy has an Angel' ;)

[Presto333]

What would be sweet is if they created a new platform. I dont think that will happen but I wouldnt put it past WDP.

that's pretty much what they're going to do. The reason he said that they've gone as far as they can with the 3-tube design. Would believe one to think they are creating a different type of gun/new platform

[Minnesota Balla]

Ya but a differant two tube design is not a new platform. I am talking a totally never seen before marker that is totally differant.

[Presto333]

wdp is known for going in a different direction than other companies. I think if they're going to make a new platform it will be different than what we've seen before. Just look at the angel air, they stopped producing it because tanks are all pretty similar, and they don't want to make products that are just average/similar to others.

[JTp8ntballer12]

i hope they come out with something new at hb....

[aerotcus]

wdp is known for going in a different direction than other companies. I think if they're going to make a new platform it will be different than what we've seen before. Just look at the angel air, they stopped producing it because tanks are all pretty similar, and they don't want to make products that are just average/similar to others.


I think they stopped producing it because it is huge and heavy and it is not necessary to have an air system that takes batteries... No one wanted it.

[Presto333]

or, because of the reason i said... http://www.angelowners.com/showthread.php?t=50610

[aerotcus]

That is political BS for "It wasnt selling so we stopped making it."

[tgallo]

That is political BS for "It wasnt selling so we stopped making it."

Agreed....if it was making them money they'd still be selling 'em.

[hgroberts]

Man, I can't wait


1000th post ya!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/imguessingurgay/haydenlogo.jpg

[aerotcus]

When is HB?

[Presto333]

That is political BS for "It wasnt selling so we stopped making it."

w/e u say duder

btw, HB is march 24-26

[RevBubba]

hmmm...I typed WDP Pegasus into my Google search and came up with MANY articles talking aboput WDP buying and using Pegasus accounting software.

Try it...is the Pegasus name and associated hype just someone getting the mane from WDP's latest business software?

I know that WDP must have a new marker in the pipe...they have a new one every 6 months for sure...but is it called Pegasus at all?

Just a Monday pondering on my part.

[Presto333]

i had heard that the pegasus was the project name for the g7, but never able to find out for sure if it was, i guess we'll just hafta see in march...

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Ya I am wondering what the new platform will look like then...

[Paladin]

I sure hope WDP doesn't come out with something too cool, because then I will have to sell my fly to buy one :bouncer:

[pbviper420]

Does anyone remember what coke did after pepsi started outselling them, they made coke 2. It was a new recipe (tasted like pepsi) and people didn't like it. I can see a one tube platform in the mix somthing like a certain rival gun whos name will remain unsaid by me.

[Presto333]

if they're making a new platform (which it's pretty clear that they seem to be) then i don't think it will be like anything alrdy available...

[tgallo]

I sure hope WDP doesn't come out with something too cool, because then I will have to sell my fly to buy one :bouncer:

don't HAVE to do anything....but I can tell you this...regardless of what you buy, marker companies will always be advancing their markers. The next one is always "better".

[killing machine]

the next Angel will automaticlly seek and lock onto opposing players with forward looking infared

[Presto333]

don't forget it'll have mode 16 too. where it makes a microwave burrito for you.

[SD-G-force]

and itll probably come stock with a compass

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

it will also come with a BFG 9000 Doom Style Spread that hits every opposing player on the field even if they are behind a bunker.

[JTp8ntballer12]

the next Angel will automaticlly seek and lock onto opposing players with forward looking infared
thats what theyve been saying since the ir3 =/

[SD-G-force]

lol

[aerotcus]

Laser Range Finder, Stabilizing fire control system, and automatic Leading of running players Like the M1 Tank.

[SD-G-force]

auto-aim :dodgy:

[Kermit Da Frog]

don't forget it'll have mode 16 too. where it makes a microwave burrito for you.

How about a beer tap to go along with the microwave burrito maker? Beer, Paintball and burritos.... What a concept... I will order one now!!!

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

It will have an aim-bot like counter-strike that allows you to see and shoot through bunkers and walls :P

[lrdbsalt]

It will have an aim-bot like counter-strike that allows you to see and shoot through bunkers and walls :P

ROFL yea then but then we will have people like "The Vos" makeing videos of himself dieing :dodgy:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/bradyspaintball/compgame.wmv

[Joy Stick-Conor]

Ya because my favorite thing about owning an Angel is when you go to a tourney or a field and people see your gun the are like "Holy $hit this guy has an Angel we are screwed!!" or "Angels are the best guns ever!!". And if WDP gets ride of the 3 tube design it will be hard to distinguish an Angel from every other marker, because the 3 tube platform is part of it's heritage.
True that.

[usa11220]

u guys know any good sites for leaks?
68 caliber is always up to date
we seem to do a fair bit of research on new stuff here at AOG
any other ideas?

[PaintballinSlayer]

I dont see how some of you guys wouldnt want a two tube'd gun. Im sure you guys like angels because there awesome, not because they have three tubes. Two tubes would only make it lighter, but wdp would still make it awesome. Also, for the people saying theres alot of two tube markers, the only big ones that come to mind are timmys and egos(since dms and protos are spool valves and WDP already said that they would never make a Spool valve marker). But timmys and egos are also open bodied(you can see the bolt). I think it would be cool to have a two tube angel that is closed body like the trixes but not a spool valve. This way, it would be very little maintence, light, efficent and quiet.

Just my thoughts, flame me if you wish.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Well I would like to keep the 3 tube platform because it is the most effiecent platform to date because the older angels (04 Speed-A4 Fly) can shoot at 31bps. And when you show me a good grade 2 tube marker that can shoot above 31bps with a good rep then we shall think about it.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

u guys know any good sites for leaks?
Here is a leak: I asked KEN CRANE what the new Angel would look like and he said "I don't know ;) ;) " (so your guess is as good as mine lol).

[PaintballinSlayer]

Well, like you, I think shooting 31 bps is awesome, but you cant do it without ramp or bounce and not allowed in any tournaments(NPPL is the only uncapped tourny but thats straight semi). I dont see why a two tube marker with angel internals couldnt shoot 31 bps. I mean the third tube just holds wires.

[Airmack]

Any new truthful information as far as release dates are concerned?

[thog94]

Any new truthful information as far as release dates are concerned?


As with all of the previous Angels, you will know about it when WDP wants you to know about it. Ant info that you hear on the boards can be considered rumor unless it comes from a MT or Frazer. WDP leaks out info on their terms, other than that they are tight lipped on everything.

[Airmack]

Okay, lets pose a new question out then... Suppose there was a new platform in the making, what would the chances be that it comes out this year?

If this is true then I will keep my Speed 05 and buy the new gun when it comes out. I did notice that prices were really low for G7 Flies at Brady's... :wonder:

[xxmjumpman23xx]

Okay, lets pose a new question out then... Suppose there was a new platform in the making, what would the chances be that it comes out this year?

If this is true then I will keep my Speed 05 and buy the new gun when it comes out. I did notice that prices were really low for G7 Flies at Brady's... :wonder:

It probly will come out this year, G7 fly is so last year LOL

[tman-89]

Okay, lets pose a new question out then... Suppose there was a new platform in the making, what would the chances be that it comes out this year?

If this is true then I will keep my Speed 05 and buy the new gun when it comes out. I did notice that prices were really low for G7 Flies at Brady's... :wonder:

I saw that too, but if you look at the top of the screen where it has the directory/address to that perticular page, you'll see that those flies are in the clearance-> used markers section :/

[Hep]

its a "propane platform" how that for a leak and thats all you guys get.
Do with it what you will

[SD-G-force]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They dont allow those on my field!! but wow propane, that's awesome! 50,000 shots or something, thatll be sick

[aerotcus]

its a "propane platform" how that for a leak and thats all you guys get.
Do with it what you will


Where did you hear this info? Is propane the next big thing? Is it like the propane cans you buy for the little coleman stove or what?

[Presto333]

its a "propane platform" how that for a leak and thats all you guys get.
Do with it what you will

wut about a retro kit to make my speed run on propane? haha

[DarkCataclysm]

And the best part is at 31 bps with demo mode you can

Cook food - Game timers allow for easy cooking.
Shoot 5 foot flames - Who knew dwell could be so much fun?
De-ice sidewalks - Great for making an extra buck.
Start campfires easy - This is the next best thing since gasoline..

The possibilities are endless the propane platform will appeal to paintballers and also function as a multi purpose survival tool. (plastic toothpick not included, maybe in the fly version)

[thog94]

its a "propane platform" how that for a leak and thats all you guys get.
Do with it what you will


Damn son, they said not to say anything until next week!!!!

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Damn son, they said not to say anything until next week!!!!
Well I know a select few of our members know some inside information and you could be shocked who knows some ;) ;) , but I think you should just set back open a can Coke (Pepsi sucks!!), come and wait for this killer rollercoaster ride!!!

[Airmack]

If this is true then what tanks could be used with it? I will just hold off on buying anything until then...

[SpeedFreak05]

i would just like to say that i boo the thought of propane

[Presto333]

looks like i can start hitting up Hank Hill for my paintball supplies now. Cause we all know that a propane marker is way better than a charcoal marker. Taste the meat, not the heat...

haha lol

[RangerJoe]

Taste the meat, not the heat...

hahahhah:boink: :feed:

[SpeedFreak05]

i guess then my last gun upgrade will be to a g7 fly then wait until they do something really good with the propane design

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

i hope this rumor isnt true! ... i was never a fan of the propane idea because of fire hazards ... also... many fields dont allow them because of the potential hazard ... i suppose if it was really safe it would be cool ... but i just dont see it as being very safe ... i guess im holding onto my a4 flies for life ...

[aerotcus]

I'm not down with propane either. I hope it isnt true. If it is I'm going to buy a dark G7 fly and call it good... My next marker after that wont be an angel.

[dusted]

get a grip people the propane thing is from tippmann and is designed for a pump or slow semi action marker. the propane generates heat and is not capable of quick firing markers. the propane is designed for areas where paintball has never been capable of suporting paintball due to no compressed air or co2

it may not be tourney paintball but still introduces paintball to some people who might not be able to play the the sport.

if you open the sport of paintball to people who have never been able to afford or able to access the sport, i see it as a sucess,

thank you tippmann

[aerotcus]

Thank you tippmann but has no place in an angel in my opinion. Angels arent for people who can barely afford paint.

[tgallo]

WDP will not replace their fast Angels with a low speed propane marker. Even if they decided to produce a propane marker, I'm sure they would continue producing high-end, fast air powered markers.

[Horror Show]

Oh, enough with this propane nonsense. Can't you tell he was kidding???

[Trigga Nometry]

Oh, enough with this propane nonsense. Can't you tell he was kidding???No kidding! I was thinking the same thing. IT WAS A JOKE!

[SpeedFreak05]

Hooray!

[NickyD]

Joke?! What is that?! lol.

Anyway I've heard some people hint that it MAY come out during HB Open... That would be a reasonable guess, too.

I say the new Angel will come out late THIS month, or early next month. IT's gonna be tight but I will never ever be able to afford it. 2 Tubes > 3 Tubes no matter how much you don't wanna hear it. there is an extra tube of dead weight....

[DarkCataclysm]

The 2006 prototype:
Its been leaked so here it is folks... :patriot:

New Two Tube sculpted Angel that is Aesthetically pleasing in a much Lighter Package

New Breech Locking Mechanism, Preventing breech wobble and allows Smoother Operation

New Redesigned Exhaust System

New High Flow Gas Porting for Extreme Consistency

New "Volume Chamber" provides a gas buffer and Unparelled Performance (patent pending)

New Redesigned zero-kick ram with Lightweight Alloy Hammer.

New Clamping Feedneck Design.

Gun functions with a 30% Higher Efficiency than previous Angels and still retainins Angels incredible 31bps rate of fire.

45 Frame and 90 frame Grip Options Available



(Pics soon, stay tuned)

[SpeedFreak05]

dang i soo wish i had money to buy this crap but the price tag is always over a grand which is reasonable

[SD-G-force]

wtf! damnit why did i have to get this g7 fly...hopefully the resale will be crap and i can get it for like 700 soon ^_^

[warpedx]

wut about a retro kit to make my speed run on propane? haha
Give me duct tape, jb weld, and 10 minutes...

[Presto333]

Give me duct tape, jb weld, and 10 minutes...


haha the new private label hk angel

[KEN CRANE]

The 2006 prototype:
Its been leaked so here it is folks... :patriot:

New Two Tube sculpted Angel that is Aesthetically pleasing in a much Lighter Package

New Breech Locking Mechanism, Preventing breech wobble and allows Smoother Operation

New Redesigned Exhaust System

New High Flow Gas Porting for Extreme Consistency

New "Volume Chamber" provides a gas buffer and Unparelled Performance (patent pending)

New Redesigned zero-kick ram with Lightweight Alloy Hammer.

New Clamping Feedneck Design.

Gun functions with a 30% Higher Efficiency than previous Angels and still retainins Angels incredible 31bps rate of fire.

45 Frame and 90 frame Grip Options Available



(Pics soon, stay tuned)

great, now this bull§§§§ post has been dragged to pbn. way to start false information...

[NickyD]

thumbs up...this is great.....</sarcasm>

But seriously that just means we will all be more surprised when it comes out.....I'm still betting it comes out late this month or early next month.

I cant wait to see the JD version of it....or the Arsenal version of it....or the fly version of it....or the.....wait I think thats it. Lol

[solid snake]

great, now this bull§§§§ post has been dragged to pbn. way to start false information...

Great. Here comes the resale barrage clogging the BST's.

[angelman2k2]

maybe they will come out with something COMPLETELY revolutionary. A new age of paintball guns. ones that use a battery to charge air(like an airsoft gun but in an angel body) which would revolutionize the sport and eliminate the tanks, which in all reality are holding our sport back because of the dangers and insurance costs/risks. It is possible to do it and would be a HUGE break through for the sport. Imagine an angel with no tank everything is internal and runs off of a simple battery. just my thoughts.

[SpeedFreak05]

that would be amazing

[Joy Stick-Conor]

I relly just want to say that WDP should only come out with their markers at the same time. For example: At HB they could premote the 06 speed, X, and X FLy, all at the same time. (X was just a generic name for a merker that we don't know about) THen, come 2007, they should have the 07 Speed with the new internals of that year, and have the X2, and the X2 fly come out at the same time as well, this will help the resell adn overall value of each marker.

[paintreliever]

maybe they will come out with something COMPLETELY revolutionary. A new age of paintball guns. ones that use a battery to charge air(like an airsoft gun but in an angel body) which would revolutionize the sport and eliminate the tanks, which in all reality are holding our sport back because of the dangers and insurance costs/risks. It is possible to do it and would be a HUGE break through for the sport. Imagine an angel with no tank everything is internal and runs off of a simple battery. just my thoughts.
that would suck
just holding a gun
a tank is what makes everyone more accurate, or at least me

i would not buy it if it had no tank..

[123456123]

wow i have got a feeling it will still be 3 tube just really milled down smaller noid and some other cool §§§§

[_slash_]

did you see ken a few posts up calling this post bull?

[angelman2k2]

1. It would lower the cost to get into the sport because you won't have to shell out 150 for a tank
2. It would allow fields to have lower insurance rates because the safety factor for fills is gone
3. Its called a stock.:patriot:

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

i will hate to see the 3 tube design leave ... as i see it as the sexiest thing alive ... however i do realize that the 3rd tube is damn near useless now in the speeds and is just added weight ... w/e the new design is ... ill wait patiently ...

[SD-G-force]

that would suck
just holding a gun
a tank is what makes everyone more accurate, or at least me

i would not buy it if it had no tank..
some paintball companies sell some stocks you can push against ur shoulder

[paintreliever]

stocks are gay

and it would make the gun unbalanced

[SD-G-force]

how?

[Airmack]

i will hate to see the 3 tube design leave ... as i see it as the sexiest thing alive ... however i do realize that the 3rd tube is damn near useless now in the speeds and is just added weight ... w/e the new design is ... ill wait patiently ...
You could store you junk in there... ;)

[tgallo]

stocks are gay

and it would make the gun unbalanced

1. 10 years from now you will think your current set up is "gay".
2. It maybe balanced by a heavier stock.

Personally I do think tanks will be a thing of the past in 10 years. When that happens the shape and design of the markers will change. Who knows. These things will always evolve.

[WDP Shooter]

You could store you junk in there... ;)

yea.. I can keep extra allen keys, some shims, my angel tool kit, and my freak inserts in there. sweet!

[angelman2k2]

or a battle swab. lol
and I do believe the sport should move in a direction away from tanks. I would allow much more access to people with lower incomes and a large part of the safety issues people compain about would be gone.

[angelman2k2]

Ken should chime in on this...whats your 2 cents?

[Presto333]

i don't think it would improve anything all that much. It contributes to a pretty big section of paintball, plenty of companies and employees, great products would be gone. And as far as safety, tanks truly aren't that bad. They're prety safe, pretty much to the point of you have to purposely try to cause something in order for it to harm someone. Or just be downright ignorant/stupid. They're is plenty of room for lower income too, such as steel tanks, and not getting a high end gun and sticking with co2. And since when has paintball been a cheap sport anyway.

[-XF-PEZ]

KEN I want to aplogize in advanced but too many people have asked and I had to leak this info.

I have seen the new Angel P8 in action, it's amazing the barrel is an integrated part of the body, there is no need for an air tank, it's all done with an amazingly simple set up. It is extremely lightweight and small, you don't even need a hopper! You just put the paint into the gun. No need for batteries, and the best part, unlimited rate of fire AS FAST AS YOU CAN PULL THE TRIGGER!

I have included a pic!

http://x402.putfile.com/3/6108093147.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

[SpeedFreak05]

HAHAHA nice

[angelman2k2]

LOL Pez just owned us all.

[AIM]

stocks are gay

and it would make the gun unbalanced
i tried the stock from my buzzard on my angel(just for kicks) and it didnt feel unbalanced at all. most pumps are like that, so im used to it. and if the gun is light enough(a4 fly), it felt pretty nice.

[NickyD]

maybe they will come out with something COMPLETELY revolutionary. A new age of paintball guns. ones that use a battery to charge air(like an airsoft gun but in an angel body) which would revolutionize the sport and eliminate the tanks, which in all reality are holding our sport back because of the dangers and insurance costs/risks. It is possible to do it and would be a HUGE break through for the sport. Imagine an angel with no tank everything is internal and runs off of a simple battery. just my thoughts.

It's called the 32 Degrees Evolt, and it sucks, 6 BPS FTL, this technology needs alot of improvement. and it looks fugly too...

Oh and BTW Why can't anyone just WAIT for the new angel? here are some facts for you:

1) It will change the way you think about Angels.
2) It will be revolutionary
3) It will NOT be 3-tubes
4) It is coming out soon enough, learn to wait.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Here is what I know:
1. It won't be 3 tube.
2. There will be at least 2 models released in the next year (this is historic considering this is WDP).
3. It is Tadao Board compatible.
4. Will shoot above 31bps.
5. Be around the same weight of a G7 Fly but a bit lighter.
6. It will be released at HBeach (this is a theory but most likely).
7. Won't be propane because it is a new technology used by Tippmann and they have all the patients.
8. It will literally rape and make the G7 and G7 Fly obselete.
9. New thread barrels.

[dusted]

"8. It will literally rape and make the G7 and G7 Fly obselete."

i highly doubt the g7/g7 fly will be considered obselete by any standards

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

It's called the 32 Degrees Evolt, and it sucks, 6 BPS FTL, this technology needs alot of improvement. and it looks fugly too...
well of course it needs work ... but my friend has an AEG airsoft ak47 that shoots 18 bps in full auto at adjustable fps ranging from 250 to 600 or something w/ new springs .. .450 stock.

[hell's angel]

Here is what I know:
8. It will literally rape and make the G7 and G7 Fly obselete.
9. New thread barrels.

8. Do you really mean "obsolete" in the truest sense of this word? As in, the G7 and G7 Fly would be completely useless in the world of paintball. Or, are you just making an exaggeration of what new thing is to come from WDP?

9. I hope you don't mean newer threads from what was already new with the G7 Fly and 06 Speed barrel threads.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

8. Do you really mean "obsolete" in the truest sense of this word? As in, the G7 and G7 Fly would be completely useless in the world of paintball. Or, are you just making an exaggeration of what new thing is to come from WDP?

9. I hope you don't mean newer threads from what was already new with the G7 Fly and 06 Speed barrel threads.

A gun that shoots up to 31 bps willl in no way be obsolete, and a gun that shoots above 31 bps seems pointless, most tourneys allow only 15 and most fingers can only go to like 25 at the most

And by new threads he means G7 fly/06 speed threads, not another new version of course

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Also I forgot to mention that it will most likely be pre-made with intellfeed capabilities when you look at how the MTs are pushing for it. Furthermore, when I mean obsolete I mean that it will out class these markers (when comes to angels) but not in paintball in general. But it will be better than the G7 Fly.

[Leo Robinson]

If you're smart you will start dumping your G7's now before the prices tank.

:)

[SD-G-force]

my g7 fly will do despite the newest angel coming out

[Presto333]

i don't think past markers r ever "obsolete". i mean i still rock my 04 speed and it still turns heads at the field. and look at all the pump guys and wutnot. But like everyone else i'll be anxiously waiting for the release (hopefully at HB)

[xxmjumpman23xx]

i don't think past markers r ever "obsolete". i mean i still rock my 04 speed and it still turns heads at the field. and look at all the pump guys and wutnot. But like everyone else i'll be anxiously waiting for the release (hopefully at HB)
Ya, 90% (not an exaggeration) of the people at SC village have spyders or tippmanns, so an angel will never be obsolete, I still have stares and questions from people and refs commenting on my A4

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Ya, 90% (not an exaggeration) of the people at SC village have spyders or tippmanns, so an angel will never be obsolete, I still have stares and questions from people and refs commenting on my A4
Yes I agree, I guess the word obsolete wasn't the right word. However, I was comparing gun to gun. It is just like a G7 Fly to an 04 Speed when you get to it everything is on the same turf because you can't legally go past 15 bps so in the end they do the same job with just some small distinctions. But I can't wait till the new model comes out because I am most likely going to get one in the summer.

[SpeedFreak05]

well im probably going to up my 05 speed which is probably wise because i cant save up money due to lack of a job hah

[dusted]

Yes I agree, I guess the word obsolete wasn't the right word. However, I was comparing gun to gun. It is just like a G7 Fly to an 04 Speed when you get to it everything is on the same turf because you can't legally go past 15 bps so in the end they do the same job with just some small distinctions. But I can't wait till the new model comes out because I am most likely going to get one in the summer.

squisy you must be playin the walk on scenario fields at sc then. when i play the arena field or the private nppl field i never see tippmann or even a4 rs. most ballers at sc are up on the newest markers.

im not saying sc is the best but definatly not behind with the newest gear/markers

[xxmjumpman23xx]

squisy you must be playin the walk on scenario fields at sc then. when i play the arena field or the private nppl field i never see tippmann or even a4 rs. most ballers at sc are up on the newest markers.

im not saying sc is the best but definatly not behind with the newest gear/markers
You mean me? Ya when i go to SC I see Tippmanns and stuff, i only saw one angel, a rasta 05 speed, but i did see a DM6 and a couple of PM5's

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

squisy you must be playin the walk on scenario fields at sc then. when i play the arena field or the private nppl field i never see tippmann or even a4 rs. most ballers at sc are up on the newest markers.

im not saying sc is the best but definatly not behind with the newest gear/markers
Well when my team plays regional tournies we see a lot of competive guns around but yes walk on you see hardly any high-end, even though a lot of tourney players hang out there.

[GMG Force Fly]

Also I forgot to mention that it will most likely be pre-made with intellfeed capabilities when you look at how the MTs are pushing for it.

Every Angel I have ever seen has Intellifeed capabilities.

[tgallo]

probably means that the sight rail will be intellifeed rail like the older Angels were

[Presto333]

according to the new e-money show, there is a Pegasus, it's not coming out at HB, but there may be some teams repping them there. Don't forget to listen to the entire show for some more insider info on some new guns coming out :). link on 68 caliber

Edit: "FYI

The term "Angel Pegasus" was coind by Evan Money and myself at the filming of a segment for a DVD magazine in which the rumors have adapted the name. No true "Angel Pegasus" exsists, nor is that the projects code name. It is just a name that was given to the project as a lack of information exsisted at the time of the story breaking. The name sounded cool and it worked so people stuck with it. I am damn proud of that five minutes before filming where we sat down and tried to come up with names for the new angel project and at the last second I blurted that out."

^^edited in big quote boxes so u can see the quotation marks...

[hodge1]

Actually, the name was developed by my 6 year old brother after he finshed watching the movie "Clash of the Titans" back in the early 1980's. The name lay dorment for two decades until this project came about. Nice try.;)

[Presto333]

Actually, the name was developed by my 6 year old brother after he finshed watching the movie "Clash of the Titans" back in the early 1980's. The name lay dorment for two decades until this project came about. Nice try.;)

riiight... u can tlak to whoever said that, in case u didn't notice the nice quotation marks...;)

[dusted]

actually the name pegasus is what wdp gives the last few projects (markers) befor they have been officially named

[PaintballinSlayer]

So far all we do ACTUALLY KNOW besides that it will not be 3 tubes is that it will NOT be at the angel booth in HB but a few angel sponsored teams will have them. That means, you guys going to HB, bring cameras and follow your favorite angel sponsored team and get pics and specs.

Im pumped for this new angel. I can honestly say, every new platform of guns WDP has made, I have wanted. Although, I have never owned in an angel. Back in the day when I was just getting into paintball, I wanted the 2001 LCD. Then I got out for a while and came back in and went to the wdp website and found the a4 fly, which I thought was amazing. I then went back to the website a few months later, after saving money and saw the 05 speed, and really wanted that( I know there were other speeds, but the 05 incorporated many new features not found in the 04). After buying a nexus e-orracle for 375, since I did not have enough for an Angel and really needed a gun, I found the G7 Fly in the summer of last year. I was determined to get it and worked all the time for it, but never got it and was thrown off track with wanting an ego also. I traded my eorry for a dynastied shocker(in my sig) straight across. Currently a guy is buying it for 600 in a week and im saving up for the new angel, that I will get, since I started pb WANTING an angel, and I will end pb SHOOTING an angel, no matter who my current sponsor is. I can guarantee you my last game will be with an angel. I know this almost completely irrelevant(sp) but im bored...

[fife]

keep dreaming

[LiLNuK]

Damn Fife that is one HOT GAT. Post more pics of it plz.:hitit:

[fife]

er ist holz!:cheers:

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

keep dreaming
That's not the actual model that is coming up.

[paintreliever]

thats the one made out of wood i believe

[SpeedFreak05]

well even if it is made ou of wood its damn hotttt

[Presto333]

ya it was made out of wood, some guy on the german angel owners website i believe, quite some time back. But yes it's a pretty damn good model

[lefty21]

WTF....What is the e-money show? I looked through my entire T.V guide...can't find it. What is it and what channel does it air, like the name of the channel. Thanks

[tgallo]

e-money is an online show:

http://www.68caliber.com/emoney.php

[SpeedFreak05]

wow i think wdp should totally take that model and make it a real gun its 2 tubed, hott as hell, and its white. I mean cmon how often do you see a white gun. i say stick to the grips in the model leave the big wing on the gun, you could leave angel owners on the barrel for pizzaz and keep the futuristic look and wdp would have themselves the best marker (which they already have the best, this would just be better than the best) :-)

[tgallo]

The reason there are no white guns is because anodizing white is difficult (not possible?). Any white ghuns you see are usually poweder coated.

[SpeedFreak05]

ahh did not know that. learn something new everyday

[MrChromey]

well I had posted an explanation with a picture as an example, but I believe a mod deleted it for some odd reason...

Anywho...while it's true you cannot anno a true white, a clear anno looks just as good.

[Hep]

Wood is the new material to be used so you can widdle any logo in it (ie. team name) Think of all the possiblities using wood, burn it, carve it, shelack it any color and if it sucks just sand it off and start over. Swoot!
Im gonna carve the "chromo trucker mudflap ladies" on mine. BTW the name of it is the "Pine 8"

[NickyD]

omfg a gloss white new Angel whatever they're calling it would look SO pimp...

[kahuku1985]

There have been some white anno timmies- but the prossess was very costly and very painstaking- not impossible just very dificult to pull off right.

AKA had been working on a stack tube before they got hammered by SP- so even they felt a stack tube was somewhere in the future for them. Although the three tube has been such a staple for making an angel an angel.

In any case- I will be at HB looking at all the top ANGEL teams to see whos playing with the new platform.

[riot789]

There have been some white anno timmies- but the prossess was very costly and very painstaking- not impossible just very dificult to pull off right.

AKA had been working on a stack tube before they got hammered by SP- so even they felt a stack tube was somewhere in the future for them. Although the three tube has been such a staple for making an angel an angel.

In any case- I will be at HB looking at all the top ANGEL teams to see whos playing with the new platform.
AKA foudn a way to amke a gun efficent without using the 3rd tube as an air passage way. basically it was a viking but has the lpr tube removed. for all you angel owners out there a vikign is basically a superior angel. Where the battery is on your angels is just a big air chamber on vikings giving it it incredable efficency. Hopefully AKA finds a way to release it.

[KEN CRANE]

There have been some white anno timmies- but the prossess was very costly and very painstaking- not impossible just very dificult to pull off right.

AKA had been working on a stack tube before they got hammered by SP- so even they felt a stack tube was somewhere in the future for them. Although the three tube has been such a staple for making an angel an angel.

In any case- I will be at HB looking at all the top ANGEL teams to see whos playing with the new platform.

please dont be disapointed but their will be no "new" platform in hb. fact

[October Fly]

lol

[hell's angel]

please dont be disapointed but their will be no "new" platform in hb. fact

I got this impression when I chatted with Owen at the Pomona convention a few weeks ago.

[fife]

please dont be disappointed but their will be no "new" platform in hb. fact

Ken likes to play games, I think this is a "coded" message. Should the word "platform" be emphasized instead of new? :notsure:

[hell's angel]

I'll just wait and see what I see this weekend.

[KEN CRANE]

Ken likes to play games, I think this is a "coded" message. Should the word "platform" be emphasized instead of new? :notsure:

ok how about this. dont be disapointed in hb, there will be no new gun in hb. sorry but the truth is what it is.

[SpeedFreak05]

im thinking hes playing on his words but thats just me

[kahuku1985]

please dont be disapointed but their will be no "new" platform in hb. fact

Cool then I will be at HB hoping to check out all the fun happenings and pb being played and then see the new platform....at....Orlando right? j/k

[SD-G-force]

ok how about this. dont be disapointed in hb, there will be no new gun in hb. sorry but the truth is what it is.
woah maybe if he's playing on his words, there will be no GUN at hb, but he didn't say anything about a marker

[123456123]

wait i dont think they are going to dump the three tube design i mean is it a fact that they are or arent

[NickyD]

so the gun won't be here at HB, maybe another tourney

[Shades]

wait i dont think they are going to dump the three tube design i mean is it a fact that they are or arent

Three is the magic number.

[fife]

looks like "hb" is emphasized.......ok so the truth is out, the new Angel will out in time for Tampa not HB:devil: That's good because WDP underwear is on backorder.