Wanna see Tadao with a MT Intellifed Halo?

[Trigga Nometry]

Oh yeah baby I just got the new MT Intellifeed installed in my Halo. I actually got the finished prototype that is in final consumer testing.

And did I mention that I have it hooked up to the Angel Force FBS Tadao Board?

Here are the specs for my set-up: It is running off the standard battery pack and using the STOCK Halo B Board. Nothing fancy in there as far as loader boards. But what is really in there is a product of MT's Magic.

In the vid attached, I am shooting Reballs in my basement. But YES, I have shot paint though it and it works perfectly.

Note that I have made the vids using the Gangsta Mode and the maximum ramping mode to kinda show off the way the MT Intellifeed works. Works the same way in true semi. I also added a couple clips showing how fast it stops when firing. No need to worry about over feeding. Also, the way you can fine tune the Tadao Board settings to the match your set-up (combo of tank, loader's motor and batteries), is really easy.

Here it is, THE VIDEO (link) (http://home.comcast.net/~fbgrace/AF_Intellifed_Halo.wmv)

Major props to the Angel Force MT's (specifically Ken Crane AND MAVERICKMAN) for making New Years veryt special.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

awesome, and trigga you suck cause you get all the goodies first lol. And btw I did like the vacume lol. ON TOP OF THAT EXCELLENT JOB KEN!!

[PaintballStar18]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice...

[Airmack]

Nice video, did you remove the rear magnet?

Edit: You really love paintball don't you trig...

[firemedic30]

Nice job guys!!!

[mcoski]

Sweet, wanting to do this myself :)

[thog94]

Frank, tell your wife that her camera skills are getting better lol ;)

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Frank, tell your wife that her camera skills are getting better lol ;)
Yep they are, buy I still can't get over how ugly Trig is up close :microwave . (Sorry Frank BUT this is my vengance for the avatar thing MUAHHAHAHAHAH!! Okay I am done now lol)

[BigBigZubra]

hey trigga nometry is that out yet???if so do i have to send my gun to one of the angelforce shops to get it installed...and do u have to kepp ur hopper on the gun or can u disconect the intellifeed wire???

[number73forlife]

I have been looking for intellifeed since I got my angel. I think its an incredible invention. I asked Bob and Fixmyangel 2 weeks ago before I shipped my markers to him if they did intelli's so I could ship my Reloader B and have that done too and I guess they are still in prototyping and such. As soon as they are up for sale to the public I'm snatching myself some. Can't wait to get my markers back from Bob and can't wait to get myself the new MT intelli'. Looks excellent. Props on the marker and intellifeed Frank.

[October Fly]

Nice vid. BTW...Would changing the board or batteries make it any better or worse?

[BoB]

The process is still in the prototype stage. Once the few testers have been given time to try it out and we get their feedback we will move forward.

[Airmack]

You can prototype my gun for free...

[Trigga Nometry]

Nice video, did you remove the rear magnet?

Edit: You really love paintball don't you trig...Nope, not yet. Ken reminded me to do so. Just haven’t got around to it yet. So, no the magnet is in during that videos.

Love paintball, heck yeah!

Frank, tell your wife that her camera skills are getting better lol ;)Will do TK. She has completely changed her look too. She is real skinny now (lost tons of weight) and stands on three legs now.

Props on the marker and intellifeed Frank.Thanks man but I cannot take credit for either! I just bought all the stuff. WDP and the MT’s really deserve the credit. WDP for designing the guns and technology behind them and the MT’s for working on the goodies like the valve, Intellifeed, etc… and for supporting us (the consumers) and the AOG.

One this to remember too, and Ken and the other MT's would be best to really describe the way and hows, but the intellifeed speed (bps wise) isn't really the only thing to wow over. Because this intellifeed is different that the previous (no need to prime the Halo for example), it is much more consistant and in turn reliable. The very short battery life seen on some in the past has been addressed.

Oh yeah, this can also be used on ANY Halo board. No real need to buy an expensive board to get this mod.

[Airmack]

Nope, not yet. Ken reminded me to do so. Just haven’t got around to it yet. So, no the magnet is in during that videos.

Love paintball, heck yeah!
Ah, it looks like you effortlessly pull the trigger. My trigger pull seems kind of strong and I might have to do the magnet trick.

Good to hear!

[Skinny C]

i was talking to ken the other day and he told me to watch the aog over this weekend, it would answer my question on the intelli prob of mine.

[connor07]

Nice work Trigga and to the MT's for solving the voltage problem.

[firemedic30]

Just to echo the Doc...(DENT6) I too have tested the new intellifeed (as Trigg calls it the Master Techafeed )! WOW. This thing is smooth.

Aslo as DENT6 mentioned, the MTs have designed a system that uses BOTH the eyes and the intellifeed cable. The system that was given to us was in pieces and we put it together. ( I will be honest, I watched my father tinker with electronics FOR YEARS, but never did it. I was able to cut wires, strip them, and re-sodder them WITHOUT any problems....SO what I am saying...if I can do it, so can you.)

Anyway, I just ran a case of paint through here last night and just now. I fully charged both my Arsenal and got a new 9 volt for my HaloB. I had a fulled charged 45/68 cylinder and fresh XBALL paint. I ran sever different settings and was just roping paint. (For all you hippies out there, I am sorry, but I just killed a tree ) I ran the fastest settings that you can shoot with the TADAO. I ran the max ROF and MAX of everything...DAMN. Just like DENT6 said, no delay!! Now here's the key, with a stock HALO board, I shot all settings with and WITHOUT the intellifeed cable! FAST.

This will be a very easy mod and will make ALL Angels even better.

[hgroberts]

So when Are the MT's gona start doing that mad to halos

[firemedic30]

mad or mod???? LOL!

I have heard just a few weeks!!!

[WDP ir3 2k3]

mad or mod???? LOL!

I have heard just a few weeks!!!


Do you know how that is going to work?
Becuz I got a tadao bord will i have to send my halo to get a new mod for it?

[firemedic30]

From what I understand, the final version is a drop-in "do it yourself" mod.

All you would have to purchase is the kit.

The one I tested involved cutting, splicing, and soldering. The one they went with will not.

[Trigga Nometry]

The only part of the new MT Intellifeed will be if the Angel's solenoid cover will be need to be milled or not. Depends how you want to run it. Right into the gun (will need milling) or run it through the side of the grip panel (will not need milling).

[aftermath616]

do we have a date or msrp?

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Right into the gun (will need milling)
This mod looks more sexy and is awesome.

[SpeedFreak05]

will the mod be available for an 05 speed with tadao?

[usa11220]

i think it would be very nice if the master techs could sell "pre-milled" solenoid covers that you could purchase and they could send along with your upgrade kit, i cant imagine that a new noid cover would cost a whole lot more than sending your existing one back and forth

also . . ..
these halos arnt actually going to be any faster, correct, i mean they wont have larger motors. I had one of the first "i-halos" cuz i bought it from Jc along with his gun and that thing literally could unload at about 40 bps, it also used 3 9 volts tho, basically what i am saying/asking is could a person like myself send in a halo to have a larger motor installed as well as the intellifeed portion, and if not, would adding a bigger motor on my own ruin the intellifeed system

[muppetmowerpb]

well see problem is it doesnt build up pressure in the ball stack so that might make it slower than say a halob or reloader b. idk the jalo seems to blow the mt outta the water

[Mavrick]

Lets see if I can help you here some.
Pre-milled covers I doubt will work. Most if you look closely are serial numbered. The reasons are after milling they are polished. Each gun ends up being "matched sets" because they round off the surfaces. The other reason is anodize matching. Their will be slight differences from batch to batch.

Larger motors are an aftermarket mod. Not sure if MT's would do it or if any sort of warranty would be applied. Highly doubt it. Larger motors use more power to.

MT intellifeed does not care what the loader setup is. It taps into the loader board electronics and signals when a trigger pull is done. So any of the mentioned mods would have no effect or damage the Intellifeed. Now your loader catching on fire from driving a larger motor is a different story. If you are careful and pick the right components it can be done.

My own setup uses a LiPo battery running at 11.5 volts and I swapped out the stock motor with a Mabuchi motor. Tons of torque and runs very fast. This MT Intellifeed mod keeps it from running away on me. Took me awhile to get it setup properly though! I had a hopper blender for awhile lol

Never did the math on my Tadao board on gangster mode to figure out my MROF but my guess is mid 30's somewhere. I get about 10 hours out of a battery charge. Oh, you do need a special charger for LiPo batteries as well.

You should hear more about the MT Intellifeed production boards this coming week from the MT’s. We are almost there!!!

edit: Again Muppetmowerpb is talking jazz. don't listen to what he is saying. Bet he does not know the fundamental differences between all 3 types and how they all work!

[Fly-n-High]

In regards to a motor upgrade in the halo. I have done some initial research into what the landscape would be to upgrade. I purchases a Hyper Dash II motor and wanted to put it in as a upgrade. The concern is the amount of current the motor draws compared to the stock one. I believe it draws engough to consider the effects of such a upgrade.

On the Halo board ( I use a Victory series) there is a set of MOSFETS controlling the amount of current delivered to the motor. The current draw of the Hyper Dash II (or even Plasma Dash II) exceeds the stock set. This causes them to get really HOT and could possibly damage the board,

I plan on waiting for the MT kit and evaluating the upgrade from there...

[Mavrick]

On the Halo board ( I use a Victory series) there is a set of MOSFETS controlling the amount of current delivered to the motor. The current draw of the Hyper Dash II (or even Plasma Dash II) exceeds the stock set. This causes them to get really HOT and could possibly damage the board,

I plan on waiting for the MT kit and evaluating the upgrade from there...

Smart man! Find some heat sinks that will cover the Moffests. I know I shouldn't say this but I used silver based epoxy and attached them to mine that way. They still get pretty hot because there is no air flow in there to really dissipate the heat generated. I cut my back cover plate and the heat sink extend out the back of the loader. Looks pretty sick. I got comments from some that have noticed it thinking I was running a power plant in there. I haven't taken the time yet to really look into hacking a halo board for higher current draws. It can be done with the proper selection of parts replacement. The thought of an external H bridge driver board might be the easier way though. To many projects and no time! lol

[Fly-n-High]

Yo Mav,

What motor are u using? I really like the idea of heatsinks, but I'm worried about H2O getting into the board compartment. I have a set of documents that have an idea of a replacement set of FETs and how to install them. Sounds kool, but just do not have time to experiment too much.

A seperate idea I have involves eliminating the Intellifeed control wire all together. Since the Halo uses it's own battery supply(to spin the wheel), the amount of switching current needed is very small, it could possibly be sent using RF. It would be similiar to RC cars using seperate frequency crystals so other units would not be effected by your specific signal.

All in all, I would like to replace the stock motor with my Hyper Dash II and try the MT kit, once released.

[Trigga Nometry]

A seperate idea I have involves eliminating the Intellifeed control wire all together. Since the Halo uses it's own battery supply(to spin the wheel), the amount of switching current needed is very small, it could possibly be sent using RF. It would be similiar to RC cars using seperate frequency crystals so other units would not be effected by your specific signal.I want that! NOW!!!

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

I want that! NOW!!!
Umm....intresting.....

[Fly-n-High]

I currently do not have a intellifeed setup on my Angel. Until the kit or something similiar is available, this can only be an idea.

Offer me a job Mr Director of R & D and we can make millions doing something we both enjoy!!

[Trigga Nometry]

I currently do not have a intellifeed setup on my Angel. Until the kit or something similiar is available, this can only be an idea.

Offer me a job Mr Director of R & D and we can make millions doing something we both enjoy!!lol, I wish my job in R&D had anything to do with paintball. I'd be all over it. What a sweet part time job that would be :cheers: .

[Fly-n-High]

I finally realized that my "job" should be something with passion, not just for the mighty dollar!!

Working in paintball somewhere would be fun and exciting, but the challenge is to make the $$$!! :wall:

BTW have you had a chance to send out those "Fly" LCD inserts yet?

[-XF-PEZ]

I brainstormed with some friends (and electrical engineers) the problem with the RF is mainly the Transmitter size, you would have to get a very small one maybe placed behind the battery in a fly, and the other would be most likely interference on your reciever due to the proximity of the unshielded electronics in the halo.

[GMG Force Fly]

You could use a directional receiver.

[Fly-n-High]

Yea, the idea sounds great, but as the discussion grows so does the concerns. I think size will not matter, but EMF and other goodies may be too much for this to work consistantly. Once I get the kit, the experimentation will start. No guarentees, of course, but it would be really kool if we could make that nasty wire disapear!!

[Mavrick]

Been there and done that already guys, Take it from me with what your options are presently it won't work. I put a decent amount of time into this trying to make it work to. lol You have more than one thing working against you. Lastly if you do get it to work your choices for bandwidth are only a few. That said the interference from other RF broadcasting on the same bandwidth will confuse your own rig. So that's when I threw up my hands. I could get one to work but not a whole team. Could you just imagine at a tournament My radio making the guys hopper in another game nearby go to the races. lol Then I squeeze of f some and my receiver is jammed by another. Then you could get some smart ass jamming everyone with a black box. I think you can see where I am going with this now..... Ahh nice to dream though.

[KEN CRANE]

Been there and done that already guys, Take it from me with what your options are presently it won't work. I put a decent amount of time into this trying to make it work to. lol You have more than one thing working against you. Lastly if you do get it to work your choices for bandwidth are only a few. That said the interference from other RF broadcasting on the same bandwidth will confuse your own rig. So that's when I threw up my hands. I could get one to work but not a whole team. Could you just imagine at a tournament My radio making the guys hopper in another game nearby go to the races. lol Then I squeeze of f some and my receiver is jammed by another. Then you could get some smart ass jamming everyone with a black box. I think you can see where I am going with this now..... Ahh nice to dream though.

sort of like 2 radio controlled planes crashing....red flag with channels listed would look funny on our guns lol

[GMG Force Fly]

sort of like 2 radio controlled planes crashing....red flag with channels listed would look funny on our guns lol

Thats would be funny to see.:bouncer:

Now would the shot count if it hit your flag?

[josh_hill]

I've withheld until now......that Vid makes me horny.......and no, not because of Trigga_Nometry........

[4130]

Yea, the idea sounds great, but as the discussion grows so does the concerns. I think size will not matter, but EMF and other goodies may be too much for this to work consistantly. Once I get the kit, the experimentation will start. No guarentees, of course, but it would be really kool if we could make that nasty wire disapear!!

Blue tooth would work. You would need to add more electronics but it could be done. Not sure if it's worth it just to lose the wire. There could be added functionality in the future if Angels had blue tooth capabilities.

[crownsk8er]

the new empire b mod allowes you to sync your markers particular sound to your loader so its like intellafeed

[scabby]

i read about an h bridge by someone in an earlier post thats for direction control only to control motor you only need a single fet not even a single transistor fet for higher currents a PWM cicruit would be cool idea to control motor speed while keeping up the torque as for rf no way o workie to bulky maybe an ir interface infa red led on gun with reciever on hopper?
one major upgrade to hoppers that none are mentionong is bettrer batteries i use a rechargable li oin way lighter but when it starts to die it dies not like nimh that slowly dies. i have a similar setup using transistor design(intellifeed similar) i have question to trig your setup eliminates the halo eye system yes? and was it hooked up directly to motor or on the blue gray wire?

[GMG Force Fly]

I want that! NOW!!!

http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2473.html

[thatguy!]

That is SICK.

[Trigga Nometry]

http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2473.htmlVery interesting! So, is that real? Is there a wire just not shown on there? If I had a wireless Intellifeed, I'd have the loader not attached to the gun during the video and do the whole magic thing where you say "See, no wires!"

[GMG Force Fly]

Yeah its real give me a min I'll do it with Tado too.

[Trigga Nometry]

Yeah its real give me a min I'll do it with Tado too.You are killing me! lol

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

You are killing me! lol
Oh snaps Frank doesn't have the latest and greatest!! :hitit: :drink:

[Trigga Nometry]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/Smileys/4_1_72.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/Smileys/4_1_72.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/Smileys/4_1_72.gifOh snaps Frank doesn't have the latest and greatest!! :hitit: :drink:I have a feeling that GMG just opened up a can of "Hey! How did you do that!?!?!" :hitit:

[GMG Force Fly]

............. file is uploading...................

[GMG Force Fly]

I have a feeling that GMG just opened up a can of "Hey! How did you do that!?!?!" :hitit:

Very carefully.

You are killing me! lol

I started this 2-3 months ago, good thing I didn't post anything then, huh.:bouncer:
Is your refresh button warn out yet....lol

[Trigga Nometry]

Well OMFG. Thanks for sending me the video. Wow. Loader is dissconnected from the Force Gun in this video. Holy jeez, you gotta keep us updated, lol.

Awesome video!

[firemedic30]

Send the vid along!!! Pass the love!

[GMG Force Fly]

Finally, you have to DL it to see it right now. I dont know why it takes them over 3 hours to convert a 20 second video. Hope you enjoy as much as Trig did.
http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2476.html

[GMG Force Fly]

Video is finally working without having download it. Enjoy.
http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2476.html

[matthepepe]

Rick and Ken already have working versions of this but a situation has arose where the communication from the board to the loader or any IR signal is protected.

[GMG Force Fly]

Doesnt mean that you cant tell people how to do it.

[matthepepe]

not exactly.

[GMG Force Fly]

Welp there goes that idea. Sorry to tease you Trig.

[KEN CRANE]

Welp there goes that idea. Sorry to tease you Trig.


( thats why we stopped.

[GMG Force Fly]

Im going finish mine, but I wont post anything cause this is too good of a site to have anything happen to it. Thanks for the heads up.

[g5xr1]

hmm . not to be on the negative here, but that vid looks like bull...
it sounded like you had an rc car right behind you..;) mabe if we could have seen the motor on the loader actually spinning that fast....


then again, if its real, then props to ya,, but im still callin bull..

[Trigga Nometry]

There are two things I am sure of:

1) We have landed on the moon and the landing was staged in some Hollywood studio

and

2) That Intellifeed video wasn't staged either

Just ask the people here that have also paid for that MT Intellifeed and have it installed on their Angels. They will tell you the same.

No conspiracies here, sorry lol

[October Fly]

rc car...lol

[Mavrick]

Ahhh controversy over the MT Intelli.... [Pointing the index finger in a waving motion] I didn't have sex when I used it! I'm telling the truth you know...
Back stage in Hollywood huh! Well if they got film or other incriminating evidence i'm screwed. Otherwise i'm not tellin.....

[GMG Force Fly]

hmm . not to be on the negative here, but that vid looks like bull...
it sounded like you had an rc car right behind you..;) mabe if we could have seen the motor on the loader actually spinning that fast....


then again, if its real, then props to ya,, but im still callin bull..

Which video?

[g5xr1]

I guess I should have specifyed http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2476.html "wireless loader" .. my old rc truck made the same sound..

[Brad7]

I guess I should have specifyed http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/2476.html "wireless loader" .. my old rc truck made the same sound..

I believe that is the "real-deal";however, it may not be applicable to today's game for reasons listed above, but it appears to be real.

[GMG Force Fly]

Yes it is real, and yes it does work. Matt7, where in Indiana are you? Im in Fort Wayne.

[Shooters~SOBA]

wow, quite an impressive vid! i now am convinced i want intelli-feed. and btw trig, i love your set-up. what all is done to your hopper and marker if you get intelli-feed installed, do they have to do any milling?

[Trigga Nometry]

wow, quite an impressive vid! i now am convinced i want intelli-feed. and btw trig, i love your set-up. what all is done to your hopper and marker if you get intelli-feed installed, do they have to do any milling?All I had done was installed the Intellifeed set-up inside the Halo and had Ken drill out a hole in the Fly's solenoid cover like so:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/Angel%20G7%20Fly/IMGP1806.jpg

[Brad7]

Yes it is real, and yes it does work. Matt7, where in Indiana are you? Im in Fort Wayne.

About 50mins North-East of Evansville, in a small town (Ferdinand).

[eddieme2u]

hey trig, where did you get the halo shells, and back plate?

[Trigga Nometry]

hey trig, where did you get the halo shells, and back plate?That Halo shell is from www.spogear.com and the backplate I found on eBay.

[Carapace]

What i wanna know is WTF you got those grips :|

[aimedplanet]

The intellifeed on the G7's is pimp. I have it done on my Arsenal g7 Fly. Pretty awesome! I do like the shells Trigg has. I just had a pair of Candy Apple Red Hybrid Shells ordered for my Halo. I'll post pics of my intellifeed when I get em.

[aimedplanet]

Here's the pics of my intellifeed. Done by Chris at Badlands Toronto. This thing is awesome! Sooo fast and the intellifeed is crazy!
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8461/pictures539lm7.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pictures539lm7.jpg)
This pic shows the intellifeed and the wicked tattoo on the Arsenal Markers.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6387/pictures540se1.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pictures540se1.jpg)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1469/pictures538bz5.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pictures538bz5.jpg)

[MVpaintball]

IDK about you, but the extra external wire was driving me nuts, so I opened up my hopper and just moved the wire in a bit. It just gets held in place by the two shell halves, so pull the wire into the hopper a bit and then just put the two shells back together. I have mine pretty much straight up and down now with a little give, its less of a visual distraction. Tadao with intellifeed is amazing, though Im waiting to get my cheetah board back from TAG with the V3 code to see what the gun can really do

[aimedplanet]

I'm keeping the intellifeed wire long because the hook up is in a different spot between my G7 and my LCD's. I need to have the extra room because the LCD's connect closer to the feedneck. What do you think about this killing machine? Once I get time, I'll make a vid.