intelifeed solved.

[KEN CRANE]

ok guys the inteli feed issue has been solved. here is a pre release picture. this circuit will replace the relay. more info to follow.also this version will replace new and stock board . thanks rick!

[firemedic30]

Nice!!

[Skinny C]

when and where can i get one?

[Devs]

When do you expect that we'll be able to send out guns and hoppers in for this? I would really like to have this done before next season starts.

[BoB]

We are working out the details now.

[WDP ir3 2k3]

Good NewS!

[firemedic30]

So, what does this do? Does it replace the one in the hopper? Does it go on the gun?

I know you guys are still working this out, just wanted some update!!

Looks sweet!

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

does this mean i wont be able to do it myself? :shocked:

im just not a big fan of sending my gun out all the time because that takes lots of time ... but if its needed ... i guess i will

i hope this is released soon!!

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

When do you expect that we'll be able to send out guns and hoppers in for this? I would really like to have this done before next season starts.
I second that :hitit: .

[KEN CRANE]

So, what does this do? Does it replace the one in the hopper? Does it go on the gun?

I know you guys are still working this out, just wanted some update!!

Looks sweet!
please call me i have something for you...also for mr hawkins if hes reading this

[SANO 212]

I'm so itchy to play with this! Approx release date?

[KEN CRANE]

I'm so itchy to play with this! Approx release date?

call me 508-400-2007

[RevBubba]

Never mind I just phoned Ken and got my answer.

[KEN CRANE]

please call me i have something for you...also for mr hawkins if hes reading this


DOC AND TOM PLEASE CALL ME I WANT TO SEND YOU PICS AND DIRECTIONS

[prRookie]

call me 508-400-2007

Hi Ken do you have information for mi ?

[dent6]

I just installed the new prototype intelifeed system this afternoon in my A 4 Fly . It is an awesome system that will let you use any halo board that you have. I installed mine with a victory board. The really cool part is that it functions thru the board itself keeping all the good board qualities, such as the hopper eyes and battery voltage regulation in-tack. It overrides the board for full intelifeed function, but the Halo system can take over if the intelifeed wire becomes unplugged , or if the intelifeed should fail. And the hopper still functions on my guns that don't have a intelifeed system.The best of both worlds!!! I have fired 5 hopper full loades so far and it fires the balls smoothly thru the whole hopper fill , I did not get that pause you sometimes get at the end of the hopper of paint. Ken and the guys have created a great new generation intelifeed system that is unbelievable in both speed and smoothness in feeding! You definitely need to upgrade your gun to the new generation intelifeed whether you are using a stock board or a tadao board. Hint: get a tadao board they are fantastic!!!!!!! My gun now has both and it is the fastest gun I have ever shot. It sure beats my orginal gun the Nelspot 007. Any of you old enough to even know what that is??? :lol:

:fanboy:

[thog94]

It sure beats my orginal gun the Nelspot 007. any of you old enough to even know what that is??? :lol:

:fanboy:

Here is a pic of mine and all the goodies. I think I got it in 88-89

Anyway, the MT's one again provide quality service and products

[Mavrick]

OMG I though I would never see one of these again! Boy does that bring back memories. I had more fun with that gun in the day. Can't remember if dinosaurs were around to shoot at though. The mind seems to slip in and out these days.

[firemedic30]

Just to echo the Doc...(DENT6) I too have tested the new intellifeed (as Trigg calls it the Master Techafeed LOL)! WOW. This thing is smooth.

Aslo as DENT6 mentioned, the MTs have designed a system that uses BOTH the eyes and the intellifeed cable. The system that was given to us was in pieces and we put it together. ( I will be honest, I watched my father tinker with electronics FOR YEARS, but never did it. I was able to cut wires, strip them, and re-sodder them WITHOUT any problems....SO what I am saying...if I can do it, so can you.)

Anyway, I just ran a case of paint through here last night and just now. I fully charged both my Arsenal and got a new 9 volt for my HaloB. I had a fulled charged 45/68 cylinder and fresh XBALL paint. I ran sever different settings and was just roping paint. (For all you hippies out there, I am sorry, but I just killed a tree LOL) I ran the fastest settings that you can shoot with the TADAO. I ran the max ROF and MAX of everything...DAMN. Just like DENT6 said, no delay!! Now here's the key, with a stock HALO board, I shot all settings with and WITHOUT the intellifeed cable! FAST.

This will be a very easy mod and will make ALL Angels even better.

[ithecho84]

Will the intellifeed be available for the 05 speed?

[tigersfury]

Yes. The 05/05 SSC Speed board has an intellifeed port. But you have to call Ken or one of the MT's to get the correct relay to make it work.

[firemedic30]

They are still testing the different products. THEY DO NOT HAVE THEM yet.

Be patient and the MTs will provide!!

[dent6]

I shot 3000 balls at the field today with the A 4 Fly Tadao using the new generation Intelifeed system. It fired perfectly without a single broken ball . I had it set up to shoot as fast as the gun could and it passed with flying colors. The system is a winner!!!!! Congrats to all that made it possible!


Brian :fanboy:

[KEN CRANE]

I shot 3000 balls at the field today with the A 4 Fly Tadao using the new generation Intelifeed system. It fired perfectly without a single broken ball . I had it set up to shoot as fast as the gun could and it passed with flying colors. The system is a winner!!!!! Congrats to all that made it possible!


Brian :fanboy:

great to hear, waiting on 1 more small change to make it more consumer friendly ie removing the resistor

[ithecho84]

=) Can't wait. Is there a rough estimate of price available atm?

[firemedic30]

I left my G7 on over night to let the batteries run dry, again, this thing ripped!! I even put in some older batteries and it just ripped!

I am getting out to play soon and will let you know. But like Doc said, this is such a great mod!!

Thanks guys!

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

im going crazy w/ anticipation!!!

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Ken, on the Intelifeed, what board would you suggest to use with it in conjunction, the stock Halo B Board or the Victory Board?

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

which reminds me ... is it possible to use a reloader b w/ this?

[FrankG7]

dude someone send the canuk a prototype i want to be one of the lucky few to test products before their release and i can give a review from the persperctive of a youth baller and see if its user friendly for a young angel owner

[FrankG7]

in other words .... gimme .... please

[1865]

So this is something that I am going to have to buy/pay to have installed? If I am understanding that right I am going to be seriously upset, since we were assured the Tadeo board would be intelifeed compatible and no mention of more money/time being required was mentioned until AFTER I purchased my board.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

So this is something that I am going to have to buy/pay to have installed? If I am understanding that right I am going to be seriously upset, since we were assured the Tadeo board would be intelifeed compatible and no mention of more money/time being required was mentioned until AFTER I purchased my board.
No to get a gun intelifeed w/ the hopper installation on to your gun it will only cost $80. So, no you are not getting charged extra.

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

No to get a gun intelifeed w/ the hopper installation on to your gun it will only cost $80. So, no you are not getting charged extra.
it will not be 80 dollars i was assured that ... 80 bucks was for a jalo and bob at FMA said the new mod will be less than that and you can do it urself ... dont quote me on this or anything but that is my understanding after reading a little

[Trigga Nometry]

Th3bLaCkNiGhT is correct. The last time I talked with Ken (last week) about the new intellifeed, he said that it will be very easy to install yourself. It will basically be a drop-in which is awesome and yeah, cheaper than the other intellifeed. I'm sure they would install it for a fee if anyone needs it installed but that is just a guess. I would say that if you ever have taken apart your loader, you should be able to install the MT Intellifeed.

[FrankG7]

ken will the master tech at badlands install the intellifeed... i unno if their is a master tech heirarchy but if so tell em cause every time i try to get something done to my angel through badlands the response is we dont fiddle with other peoples guns. It is extremely upseting cause i would rather have my gun teched right down the street from me instead of shipping it somewhere. Last question regarding intellifeed is that i was reading in a thread that a button or switch has to be installed with present intellifeeds :confused: will this be so with MT intellifeed. :fanboy:

[Trigga Nometry]

i was reading in a thread that a button or switch has to be installed with present intellifeeds :confused: will this be so with MT intellifeed. :fanboy:I am not Ken so I hope you don't mind me answering but unless they have changed the design, there is no button/switch that needs to be installed. It will be a drop-in mod.

If this has changed, I am sure one of the MTs who have designed it, will chime in and correct me lol.

[FrankG7]

Hey trigg no prollem thats for informin me, and a question have asked in another thread and got no response on was if the intellifeed would be illegal in any tournaments formats ... i don't think it would be but i think its something i should cheq on.

[Angel11523]

Is this going to work with stock board as well as the Tadao board? Is this going to have that replacement top piece for the harness? I am very very excited about this.

Thanks,
Ryan

[colonel frank slade]

ok, so let me get this straight. If we have a tadao now, all we have to do is buy this kit and we can install it ourselves to have working intelifeed? Does this work for reloader b's? And I'm assuming you still have to drill the gun?

[Trigga Nometry]

Hey trigg no prollem thats for informin me, and a question have asked in another thread and got no response on was if the intellifeed would be illegal in any tournaments formats ... i don't think it would be but i think its something i should cheq on.The MT Intellifeed does not add shots to your gun, it just makes the loader react WAY FASTER to your trigger pull so it would be tourney legal as long as you have your board set to whatever other tourney rules.

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

tourney legal as long as you have your board set to whatever other tourney rules.
Which in layman's terms will mean not me :bouncer: .

[1865]

No to get a gun intelifeed w/ the hopper installation on to your gun it will only cost $80. So, no you are not getting charged extra.
Sorry, I was not clear in my post. I have an intellifeed on my G7 now and am concerned about the additional expense in converting it to fuction correctly with the new board. If I understand the posts after yours I will have to buy a part (and if that is just a few bucks I'm fine with it) and will be able to install it myself.

[firemedic30]

I was one of the testers for the new intellifeed. I was picked to see if I could install this myself. I had a few EXTRA steps that Ken and the others are trying to take out. (In other words make it more simple to fix!)

I can tell you, that even with the extra steps that I had to do, this will be a VERY EASY mod to do yourself.

[male_stripper]

Not worried about doing the mod, more wondering how i can get it......

[firemedic30]

It is on the way!! Just a little more time to wait, BUT, not much longer!!

[dark_angel_lcd]

How much longer??? I can't wait!!!!

[Mavrick]

Ok guys,
We got one more short round of prototypes to get through before we break loose on production boards. We have discussed every possible thing and looked to make it very simple to install it.

Here are the things you should know. If you do not presently have an Intellifeed installed on your marker you will need to get a hole placed for the wire harness pass through for the hookup of your loader.
If you already have the Intellifeed option installed it will be putting the new board in your gun. And plugging the connector from the cable into the new board. Then the board to your marker board.

Then one last hookup from the harness to the loader board. We are looking to do this without any soldering or additional electronic components.

I am not the guy setting pricing for any of this. So pricing will still need to be announced by the MT

[ithecho84]

For an 05 speed, will I need to get a hole drilled into my gun? I wasn't sure if you said if we needed to get a hole placed for the wire harness into the loader or into the gun.

[firemedic30]

It's actually both. There is a wire that comes from the hopper to the gun. The hole in the solinod cover goes from the adapter ontop of the gun, down to the board.

[firemedic30]

Here are sone pics....

[tman-89]

Firemedic I have a question for you. You have the JALO mod done right? Well I also have it done, and Im wondering how this mod works and if it is easy/ inexpensive/ even possible to install while still using the JALO. I think you mentioned something about it being possible earlier in the thread, but im still not sure about the limitations of this modification. Thanks.

[firemedic30]

yes TMAN I have the JALO, and without betraying a trust of me, I can't (at this time) explain exactly how this works....BUT!!!!

But, I can expound on some things...As I said one time, I was selected so that I could see if my verison of the mod was hard. (I say my version, b/c there were several tested) I has some cutting, splicing, and soldering to do. I can tell you that with the VERY limited knowlegde and experience of those skills (Dad was great with electronic, I never truly picked it up from him. Watched....but never touched!!! LOL) Anyway, I was able to follow what was asked of me and I was able to do this mod VERY easily!!!!!! There really was nothing to it.

Now, again, I said my version. From what Ken has stated, the version that they are going with, has one or two steps of mine deleted. So what I am saying....if mine was easy, this one they have deceided on will be EVEN EASIER!!! YEA!!!!

I can't comment on price, because that is above my paygrade.

One other thing. I believe that Jim was heavily involved in this R/D. So, his JALO was thought of and worked with. So Anyone with the JALO, this will help you.

Hope this helps. As I understand it, more is coming and I think that the final is close to release. JUST HANG IN!!!

[tman-89]

Thanks a lot!

[Cegasaturn]

will the new intellifeed work on a Vlocity?
or do I have to get me a Halo?

[firemedic30]

Good question. To this point the testing (that I know of) has been with Halos and Reloader Bs...... UUHHMMM??

[Cegasaturn]

oo can i be a tester i have a vlocity
or i can send some1 a vlocity 2 test

[GMG Force Fly]

I wouldn't use one cause there is no stress relief for the balls(ie. spring, flexible paddles). But you could tap into the eyes and connect the intellifeed to them so it still runs off the velocity's board and software but it will still only run as fast as it did from the factory.

[Cegasaturn]

^^^^^^
Me confused :(
Well I already have a Vlocity, so either it will work as well if not better than with a Halo B or I'll sell mine and get a Halo. What do I do?

[GMG Force Fly]

Inside the Halo there is a spring in between the drive cone and the motor so that if the motor spins too much it wont blend the paint. In the Evo the paddles will bend around the balls so it doesn't blend the balls. In the Vlocity the chip monitors the motor so that it doesn't blend the paint, without there software it will probably blend the paint, unless you connect it to the eyes. But don't do this unless you are absolutely sure you know what your doing.

What you use is up to you. I love my Halo's.

[Cegasaturn]

Thanks for the explanation
I guess I'm gonna have to trade my Vlocity for a Halo B, cant pass the opportunity for intellifeed

[tman-89]

the spring between the drive cone and the motor doesnt necessarily stop your loader from turning into a blender. once it winds up all the way, it will still break the paint.

[WDP Shooter]

the spring between the drive cone and the motor doesnt necessarily stop your loader from turning into a blender. once it winds up all the way, it will still break the paint.

i second that...

[GMG Force Fly]

the spring between the drive cone and the motor doesnt necessarily stop your loader from turning into a blender. once it winds up all the way, it will still break the paint.

No it wont completely stop it but its better then a direct drive.

[-=X=-Trigger]

OK, so I am confused....what EXACTly is the advantage of having the intellifeed on the marker in the frist place? It doesnt even get rid of the Halo board/eyes/batteries and all it does is add more weight with the extra wiring and chip.

[dark_angel_lcd]

The hopper feeds when the gun tells it to. So your hopper speed is extremely fast.

[-=X=-Trigger]

is that all? also, if I dont want to keep it connected, I can still use my reloader on a different marker?

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

if I dont want to keep it connected, I can still use my reloader on a different marker?
Yes you just disconnect the cable from the hopper and just hook it up on a different marker because it keeps the same settings on the board installed when it isn't intelifeed into your angel.

[WDP Shooter]

lol... any news of when it is out yet... im growing impatient...

I have the original intellifeed setup and i shoot much faster and more consistently than when i rely on a board, i.e. halo.

...

[WDP ir3 2k3]

When can we send are halos in to get them fixed for the tadao bord anyone know?


700:)

[firemedic30]

As long as you already have the intellifeed, this will be a do it yourself mod!

[RangerJoe]

and if we dont already have the intellifeed???im guessing it will be a not do it yourself mod?

[firemedic30]

The only thing that would need to be milled, would be the solinod cover and the hole in the hopper for that cable.

[RangerJoe]

Sow if i were to send my gun too say ken he would drill and install what ever was nesseciry?

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

Sow if i were to send my gun too say ken he would drill and install what ever was nesseciry?
Yes, if you pay for it.

[RangerJoe]

now would that be the $80 i was hearing?

[Magnum PI]

I've heard that the $80 talk is quite a bit more than it is actually going to be...

[firemedic30]

The 80 was for the JALO mod. I haven't heard a figure yet on this mod, either the drop in or the MT work.

[1865]

So have they released the fix for those of us with existing intelifeeds and Tadeo boards? If they have I've completely missed it and would appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction. Thanks!

[firemedic30]

No, not yet!!

[1865]

No, not yet!!Thanks Firemedic.

I have to say that I'm pretty disapointed by this. I've had to pick up a regular Halo so that I can use my Tadeo while waiting for this fix. With all the time spent on the Tadeo, and all the times we were told it wouldn't be out until it was right, plus the amount of time that has passed since this issue came to light, it seems like this should be resolved by now. I still love my board and support all the work the MT's put in on projects like this, but I do have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth over this.

[KEN CRANE]

Thanks Firemedic.

I have to say that I'm pretty disapointed by this. I've had to pick up a regular Halo so that I can use my Tadeo while waiting for this fix. With all the time spent on the Tadeo, and all the times we were told it wouldn't be out until it was right, plus the amount of time that has passed since this issue came to light, it seems like this should be resolved by now. I still love my board and support all the work the MT's put in on projects like this, but I do have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth over this.

just waiting for the boards to arrive from the maker. projected date is friday but cannot issue a firm date until fed ex arrives.just so their isnt an issue we never approved what was called the i halo or jalo to start with. we did not get it to work right and dropped the project. we have reintroduced a working version called the techfeed and is tested and finished in less than 8 weeks. prototypes were done and tested in the field and proven beyond a resonable doubt they worked. so now were just awaiting on the boards and will let everyone know as soon as their done. what version do you have? also just an fyi our version works best with all the stock componants in place such as the eyes and board.

[BoB]

Thanks Firemedic.

I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed by this. I've had to pick up a regular Halo so that I can use my Tadeo while waiting for this fix. With all the time spent on the Tadeo, and all the times we were told it wouldn't be out until it was right, plus the amount of time that has passed since this issue came to light, it seems like this should be resolved by now. I still love my board and support all the work the MT's put in on projects like this, but I do have a bit of a sour taste in my mouth over this.

Do not want to be the bad guy, however, you should have waited on the IHalo since we said it was not a finished project from the beginning. We stopped working on the project because it was not going the direction we wanted. Relays was one of the big issues, this final project is where we wanted to be.

[firemedic30]

Save one for me Ken,

BTW, did you get my emails????

[Angel Man]

Can we send our Halo's in so as soon as its ready were first in line.

[1865]

Do not want to be the bad guy, however, you should have waited on the IHalo since we said it was not a finished project from the beginning. We stopped working on the project because it was not going the direction we wanted. Relays was one of the big issues, this final project is where we wanted to be.
I had an intelifeed on my marker before purchasing the Tadeo board, one of the reasons I purchased this board was that it was supposed to be compatible with my existing set-up.

Ken, I purchased the marker with the intelifeed already set-up, so I'm not sure what version I have. Is there a way I can tell? Thank you.

[WDP ir3 2k3]

Im just waiting for them to fix it and im sending my halo in

[tman-89]

also just an fyi our version works best with all the stock componants in place such as the eyes and board.

so are you saying that this wont work as well with the tadao board, even though thats why this whole issue was raised?

Unless by stock you mean anything approved by the master techs...

I dont mind that in order to use the intelliefeed or "techfeed" I will have to buy another halo and the techfeed mod, but I do mind that another system had to be developed when it was said that our original systems would work with the board

[Somekindagenius]

I think by stock he means stock halo board and eyes. Not the board in your gun.

[tman-89]

good point :doh:

[Mavrick]

To clarify to you guys that are not sure of my terminology!
I am speaking of marker boards driving the Techfeed

STOCK means any WDP factory marker board with the "HOP" signal connector.
Tadao is tadao with "HOP" connection..

The new "techfeed" will work with both!
The old intellifeed or original will not work with the Tadao but will work with stock boards.

The "techfeed" was tested on both and works like a charm. Personally I think that the production boards are faster with the Tadao than the prototype boards were. They will interface to your HOPPER board. It will work with any stock hopper board ( the board that comes with the low end Halo) up to the high end boards. The "Techfeed" does not care what board you are using!


I believe this is why Trigga and Ken named it the "techfeed" so that it would give distinction to your setup during discussions.

Are we clear now guys? I sure hope so....


BTW expect an announcement within the week on the production board "techfeed" being available to you all. Yep the wait is over. As Ken said in a post above. Right after the Tadao was released (a week or so later) the problem surfaced. Took about 8 weeks to get it done with everything else going on. Way to go guys!

[tman-89]

thanks mavrickman

[Trigga Nometry]

Just for the record, I don't know what the MT's will call it when they start to sell it. I just termed the name Master Technafeed (a play in Intellifeed) just because it sounded good to me ;). The real name (I am guessing MT Intellifeed or Angel Force MT Intellifeed or whatever) will be determined when it's sold.

Just my guess...

[tman-89]

I think it would be cool if they called it the iMTellifeed

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

I think it would be cool if they called it the iMTellifeed
Just like iPOD lol.

[Mrsnnappy]

So how much will it be installed on a unmilled speed??
Or have they not relesed the pricing yet

[Magnum PI]

I thought Ken said that the boards would be in last Friday. What is the hold up? Any dates out there MT's? Thanks

[Squishy OWNS YOU!!]

So how much will it be installed on a unmilled speed??
Or have they not relesed the pricing yet
$400 (fly conversion) + Intellifeed cost

[KEN CRANE]

I thought Ken said that the boards would be in last Friday. What is the hold up? Any dates out there MT's? Thanks

hold up is the boards are on not finished yet. i had forgotten something that was needed so it fouled the date up.. as soon as their ready we will advise. should be shortl

[nalby]

will it work on a vlocity?

[KEN CRANE]

will it work on a vlocity?

not designed to work with the velocity

[Angel11523]

When do we get it?

Thanks,
Ryan

[SpeedFreak05]

i really want one of these intellifeeds for my tadaod 05 speed :-)

[tittelba]

are these ready yet? If yes, how can I order one?

Thanks!

[GMG Force Fly]

They are ready, but you have to send into a MT to have it installed.

[Th3bLaCkNiGhT]

They are ready, but you have to send into a MT to have it installed.
no you dont. i installed both of mine myself. its very easy actually. only part that can cause problems is drilling the noid cover for the intellifeed port but the a4 flys have a hole already drilled for intellifeed so i had no problems at all.