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esandov
11-16-2005, 01:25 AM
An after market Angel body............for the ION. HAHAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:


Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:

Shibbykins
11-16-2005, 05:46 AM
i wish i could find that friggn slap .gif i got from Vantage_Tes.....

-XF-PEZ
11-16-2005, 06:43 AM
I believe that kit would be called a "disguise":clown:

hgroberts
11-16-2005, 07:35 AM
Like a spimmy or spocker

batmantis
11-22-2005, 05:12 AM
Like a spimmy or spocker
I dont know what funnier what you said or the fact that this is my first post since 08-03-2004. LOL

xxmjumpman23xx
11-23-2005, 01:26 AM
An after market Angel body............for the ION. HAHAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:


Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

LOL

Squishy OWNS YOU!!
11-23-2005, 05:24 PM
Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:
Indeed :stooges:

dusted
11-23-2005, 05:48 PM
An after market Angel body............for the ION. HAHAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:


Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:


you cant polish a turd

Vantage_TeS
11-23-2005, 05:53 PM
An after market Angel body............for the ION. HAHAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:


Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:

Let me help you out here Josh:

http://www.sportbikers.net/forums/images/smilies/slap.gif that is the worst idea I have ever heard.

firemedic30
11-23-2005, 06:12 PM
you cant polish a turd
Sure you can....you just end up with a shinny P.O.S.

dusted
11-23-2005, 06:19 PM
Sure you can....you just end up with a shinny P.O.S.

if p.o.s. = ion

warpedx
11-23-2005, 06:20 PM
you cant polish a turd
Yep, sure can.
For example, Bob Long polished a Spyder...:throwup6:

firemedic30
11-23-2005, 06:21 PM
P.O.S.= piece of sh?t

BigP567
11-23-2005, 09:03 PM
I believe that kit would be called a "disguise":clown:
very true.

esandov
11-24-2005, 02:18 PM
I think a POS could be polished if it were hard enough and you applied the right amount of polish + a buffing tool.

I cant believe I just tried to conceptualize how to polish a POS.

In any case...WDP was beat to the POS polishing market by Powerlite and New Designs.

My original post was entirely a joke, but what is concerning is the prevalence of the ION at the fields that I have visited. I have not met a single player who has liked any form of Ion manifestation and yet it seems anyone who is under the age of 15 has one. I mean I don’t know of any pro endorsement (although I think strange is using them now and I believe that it is definitely a propagandizing maneuver). Then why are all these kids buying them. It appears that its the official poormans tournament marker but I don’t know tournament players who willingly use them.

Also, at this point it appears that the Ion is going the way of the Autococker with the amount of aftermarket parts becoming available for them. Once I run into replacement internals (I am a passive researcher) I think that there will exist marketing for "tournament level" replacements for every single piece.

Is this bait and switch? (figuratively speaking) For all the Ion bashing we do here at AOG, what do we do to help others make better decisions? Or do we leave young players to the SP marketing jackals?

Could we start a thread actually listing the deficiencies of the ION?

Are there really serious drawbacks? (Or is it Gardner hatred, which is justification in itself IMHO).

dusted
11-24-2005, 03:24 PM
I think a POS could be polished if it were hard enough and you applied the right amount of polish + a buffing tool.


post a vid of that

Elren
11-24-2005, 06:22 PM
Also, at this point it appears that the Ion is going the way of the Autococker with the amount of aftermarket parts becoming available for them. Once I run into replacement internals (I am a passive researcher) I think that there will exist marketing for "tournament level" replacements for every single piece.


This is what gets me. All of Smart Parts low end production gun ends up being like that. The impulse (though a good gun) had a ton of upgrades. But after putting $700 in upgrades into the gun you still had an impulse, just a shinier one, if you will.

Though the Ion is worse. Kids buy these guns for what like $300 throw about $200 in upgrades and want to sell their gun for $475, or worse try trading me for my 05 Speed...... AND THEN tell me I would have to add some..... The impulse was atleast a metal gun....

When it comes down to it, if a kids going to start off and doesn't want to spend 800+ on a new gun. I have them look at a DM3 or an older Angel. Both are nice guns. And when your done upping the heck out of an ion you should have just bought a better gun.

AngelSpeedbackman939
11-25-2005, 08:44 PM
totaly agree^^^

Quik 440
12-01-2005, 06:51 PM
:notsure: I have fallen prey to those Jackals and I'm well over 15. I wish I had waited and gone the way of the Angel. You live and learn. I've played a few rounds with one of FATBACK's G7s and I have already started my "Angel" fund. I'm thinking about getting a reflective vest and standing at a street light with a jug for donations. DONATE TO THE ANGEL FOR THE DEPRIVED FUND. This idea might "FLY".

Ps. They do have replacement internal for the Ion, the Smart Parts "Blackheart" board w/ all new tubing too..........woo 20bps and speaker for audible beep, to help in confirming settings & tourney modes. (I think that's what you mean)

Quik.........:notsure:

firemedic30
12-01-2005, 07:13 PM
AW...someone was seduced to the dark side....excellent darth fatback!!! LOL!

Squishy OWNS YOU!!
12-02-2005, 06:06 AM
Well I do think the Ion is a P.O.S.. Autocockers are awesome because I came within a hair buying an autococker than a Angel. But hey I love my Angel so it is safe to say I made the right choice, plus you can upgrade your angel 04 Speed to as good if not better than a stock G7, with G7 eyes and the Angel Force Tadao Board.

Elren
12-02-2005, 10:43 AM
I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree with you. You can't upgrade your angel to better than a G7. Especially since there is no performance upgrade between stock fly eyes, and G7 "laser" eyes. The evolve kit was a great step forward but the gun still won't quite match up to a G7. I have a Force Fly with evolve and I'm fine with where my gun is at. I don't need the newest because my gun still is one of the fastest and smoothest guns out there.

Squishy OWNS YOU!!
12-02-2005, 03:56 PM
I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree with you. You can't upgrade your angel to better than a G7. Especially since there is no performance upgrade between stock fly eyes, and G7 "laser" eyes. The evolve kit was a great step forward but the gun still won't quite match up to a G7. I have a Force Fly with evolve and I'm fine with where my gun is at. I don't need the newest because my gun still is one of the fastest and smoothest guns out there.
True, however with the new AF board and G7 eyes the performance on the Angel goes up drasticly.

Sauron
12-02-2005, 08:41 PM
All the G7 eyes do is make some of the beam visible....... Not much of a "performance" upgrade per se. More along the lines of, you know right away if they're screwed up.

paintmauler
12-03-2005, 01:08 PM
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2705/pooion0ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

xxmjumpman23xx
12-03-2005, 01:30 PM
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2705/pooion0ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA

LlolL

esandov
01-09-2006, 08:40 AM
Dude thats frikken brilliant. Tight from all angles except the front ;) .

Squishy OWNS YOU!!
01-09-2006, 09:19 AM
Dude thats frikken brilliant. Tight from all angles except the front ;) .
If they made a body kit like that the first kid I saw with that I would hit him in full auto w/ my tadao board :D .

WDP ir3 2k3
01-09-2006, 10:59 AM
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/2705/pooion0ze.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Lol im loveing that g7 Body on a Icon LOL

xxmjumpman23xx
01-09-2006, 06:25 PM
Lol im loveing that g7 Body on a Icon LOL

By icon u mean Ion right?

esandov
01-09-2006, 09:40 PM
An Ange'on. The bastard product of a WDP/SP drunken one night stand in Tiejuana.:hititraw:

Later that night.....:throwup6:


Its kind of like a donkey when you think about it.

hgroberts
01-09-2006, 09:54 PM
An after market Angel body............for the ION. HAHAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:


Someone should ban me for that.:watchout:
I would like one that worked the other way around. Some noob would walk up tome and go "I have a QEV in my ion, I bet it can shootfasten then yours" Then Hgroberts soots 31 bps in full auto. Noob "OMFG what kind of QEV is that." Hgroberts" its an angel QEV" :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

paintmauler
01-10-2006, 05:47 PM
I would like one that worked the other way around. Some noob would walk up tome and go "I have a QEV in my ion, I bet it can shootfasten then yours" Then Hgroberts soots 31 bps in full auto. Noob "OMFG what kind of QEV is that." Hgroberts" its an angel QEV" :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:


but not really....:stooges:

hgroberts
01-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Ya, not really

Squishy OWNS YOU!!
01-10-2006, 07:44 PM
Ya, not really
Thank God.

esandov
01-27-2006, 01:02 AM
You can say it has a magnum QEV ;)

But not really. :o

muppetmowerpb
01-28-2006, 03:29 PM
aftermarket body would be nice problem is wdp changes everything every 6 months so that can't happen