G7 Fly barrels ? [Archive] - Official WDP Angel Owners Group

Deanomatic

09-27-2005, 09:58 AM

Since i live in a backwater area and im lazy too..

WHo currently makes the new G7 Fly barrels ?

So far the only makers ive heard of is CP ?

Ken stated they will make an adapter, but i dont plan to buy old angel type barrel threads and an adapter.

So if any of you know other companies who make the new threads please enlighten us :)

(yes i got my gloss red fly last night finally, and now itching to get a barrelset to match ;))

guigui

09-27-2005, 08:21 PM

Dye have it in two or three weeks!!!

Since i live in a backwater area and im lazy too..

WHo currently makes the new G7 Fly barrels ?

So far the only makers ive heard of is CP ?

Ken stated they will make an adapter, but i dont plan to buy old angel type barrel threads and an adapter.

So if any of you know other companies who make the new threads please enlighten us :)

(yes i got my gloss red fly last night finally, and now itching to get a barrelset to match ;))

A4Flyguy

09-28-2005, 11:54 PM

stiffi is making them too...

NATEDOGG

09-29-2005, 01:09 AM

How long till we can get 'em from Site/Stiffi?

Deanomatic

09-29-2005, 11:17 AM

i malied stiffi if they are actually making these since it doesnt show anywhere that they are making the new threads.

But no answer yet but its only been a day or so :)

NATEDOGG

09-29-2005, 05:07 PM

Dean, just got off the phone w/ someone at Site who said they'll be ready in about a month.

Deanomatic

09-30-2005, 08:42 AM

cool thx. now being from abroad i have to consider what i buy and making a "short call" isnt really an option(well it is but im 100% too cheap to spend enough money on a call that would get me a bag of paint ;) )

So every bit of help is greatly appreciated in this :)

Also im sure other G7 Fly owners and future owners would like to know when where and if their specific fave brand of barrel will be available for it ;)

spy 1

10-03-2005, 04:41 AM

When will the barrel adapter be available ? anyone know.

A4Flyguy

10-07-2005, 04:56 PM

I called Smart Parts and inquired about a freak back for the new Angel threads, and the dude said there is no freak back in the works for the new angel threads at this time. = (

Hit The Fifty

10-22-2005, 12:04 AM

I called Smart Parts and inquired about a freak back for the new Angel threads, and the dude said there is no freak back in the works for the new angel threads at this time. = (

smart parts is hoping for a new back by the end of the year...

dusted

10-24-2005, 05:18 PM

i just ordered my cp backs today, and dye has them ready to ship now also.

NATERATER

10-29-2005, 01:20 PM

I heard they are the same as tippmann threads. Not sure which ones though. Has anyone else heard this?

dusted

10-29-2005, 01:22 PM

yes they are tippmann a-5 threads

PaintballStar18

11-02-2005, 09:51 PM

dusted, have you ever actually screwed and A-5 threaded barrel into your gun? I have an A5 from back in the day, but i dont wanna chance messin up the threading on my g7 fly before im positive itll work

dusted

11-02-2005, 10:58 PM

i know for a fact that the threads are a-5 but not sure if the barrel will fit inside of fly. if u want i will try saturday and let u know.

PaintballStar18

11-05-2005, 02:48 PM

yeah, please that would be awesome. Thanks alot.

dusted

11-05-2005, 06:12 PM

told u so, yes the a5 barrel fits, some of the aftermarket a5 barrels will not tho. you need to try these befor you buy. some fit but dont look good.

Deanomatic

11-05-2005, 06:38 PM

if the barrel threads are similar of course they might be able to used, but somehow i doubt it s a perfect match.. since the threads prolly dont have the exact same measurements.. and since its not a snug perfect fit, the result is not going to be pretty once you start to rip paint thru..

I wouldnt recommend using anything but the specific barrles for what ever gun unless specified they actually fit.

dusted

11-05-2005, 07:02 PM

they match fine its just cosmetic, since i checked it out and reported my conclusion to u and u still dont want to accept. believe what u want

PaintballStar18

11-05-2005, 07:07 PM

Thanks for the lab results dusted. lol I already have a barrel kit with a5 threads, so im gunna go ahead and screw it on there. If i feel the need, ill buy new later.

dusted

11-05-2005, 07:19 PM

just take it slow to make sure

PaintballStar18

11-05-2005, 07:22 PM

yeah ill be careful not to screw up my second girlfriend

(PS. Im talking about my gun)

Mavrick

11-06-2005, 01:49 PM

Tried to see if Sanchez Machine's MT Orbium 3 would be available for the G7 Fly. To my surprise their web site is gone! Did some searches and no one carries them anymore for Angel's of the newer models currently offered. This just bites. I will call them tomorrow and see if they are still in business or would possibly still make these barrel sets. I got a contact that said he would Teflon coat the ID's of the barrel inserts once I hone them out a thou or so. I'm really curious to see if it make any sizable difference to performance.

So anyone know anything about Sanchez Machine?

Deanomatic

11-06-2005, 03:06 PM

the reason for the A5 barrel threads on some dont match is because its not the exact same barrel threads.. just because it "feels" like they fit does not mean they are the same size..

So unless you have measurements down and can prove they are the same numbers .. they arent.. simply because as you said..some barrel kits dont match, and if it was a uniform thread it should match ALL the A5 barrel kits .

The point is they may be very close in size, and feel the same, but ultimately they arent, and using a thread that is even a little off will eventually ruin the threads on both barrel and gun.

As for Sanchez machine, i inquired with FMA, via email and no answer about this so far and this was over a month ago, so i dont think anyone knows whats going on with that.

dusted

11-06-2005, 05:35 PM

the threads are the exact same, some of the barrel does not fit inside of fly body is the difference. if you do not believe me just call wdp in huntington beach and ask to speak to c.j. or owen, i know both and they will tell u the same.

dusted

11-06-2005, 05:36 PM

you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink

Mavrick

11-06-2005, 07:02 PM

I'm sure the threads are close as you all say. I know the Angles are metric threads for sure. You can also "match" very closely English threads of similar size. The pitch between the two is slightly different though. Combine that with "thread tolerance" and some will fit and others will not. All depends on who and how the threads are machined. How the hell do I know that you say? I'm a class A machinist that's why. One thread is not the same as the next. Never once heard that the two are interchangeable. Until I put some measuring tools to the 2 of them I can't say for sure. But as it was already said. Mating two parts that are close and not an exact match is a recipe for major pain.

lrdbsalt

11-06-2005, 08:06 PM

wow that was informative and well put haha

PaintballStar18

11-06-2005, 08:18 PM

Deanomatic

11-07-2005, 12:20 AM

The man just stated an observation he made and decided to share with everyone. Besides, what are you guys getting out of critisizing him?? Is that the only way you can get a good night's sleep tonight?
When stating something as a fact, and it can potentially cause ppl to go out and use and possibly ruin a 1200+ gun, well all im asking for is proof other then a mere "im pretty sure" or "it feels like they match"

So with everything else regarding the maintenance and care of the marker, unless a certified Tech tells me otherwise or someone can actually prove this by measuring the actual threads trying to use a 50 barrel set and potentially ruining your new gun would be .. well ya know..

And yes i tried with the stock A5 barrel too and no it isnt a perfect match.. its def not the same 100% snug "feel" when screwing it in. there is a minimal amount of play in the threads that the stock barrel lacks.

JustTooGood

11-08-2005, 05:11 PM

Okay I'm looking at getting a new barrel for my G7 Fly and I've got a few that I'm considering: Warped Sportz Lucky 15, Dye Ultralite, SP Freak Kit, Stiffi or a CP Two Piece. What do you guys think or is there another barrel not mentioned that I should get?

Devs

11-08-2005, 06:04 PM

As far as I know, SP hasn't jumped on to make the new threads. I'm a huge fan of CP. So of course I'm going to say go with CP.

PaintballStar18

11-08-2005, 06:42 PM

I tried to buy a freak back at cup and the guy said theyre in production, so wait a week or 2... so thats what im waitin on. Id say either the freak kit or the ultralite.

JustTooGood

11-09-2005, 04:34 PM

Where can I buy a CP Two Piece 14 in Full Bore Barrel Kit with the new style threads and still get an additional tip to kit(16 in) or a Stiffi Switch Complete Barrel Kit with the new threads?

Deanomatic

11-10-2005, 10:32 AM

Update: Currently it still looks like only 3 companies make the new threading.

CP Full barrel set.

Dye: sizes ??

Stiffi: barrel set not confirmed

just got mail back from Redz, they wont be making the new peppersticks in the new threads.. the sets arsenal use were made before production was decided for old style only :(

Shades

11-11-2005, 04:08 AM

Don’t hold your breath for the Freak kit or any other smart parts barrel with the new thread. After what I was told they will never be making one.

lefty21

11-11-2005, 07:16 AM

Can someone or even you confirm the above statement as 100% fact? I'm Sellin my freak kit for $135 so if SP will not be making new threads than I can part with it with NO QUALMS for what, for me, is such a low price.

thog94

11-11-2005, 07:31 AM

lefty21

11-11-2005, 10:10 AM

Like many other posts have stated on this thread...I called SP and they gave me no def DATE BUT INDICATED PRODUCTION OF THE NEW THREADED BARRLES ARE IN THE WORKS.

Don't mean to steal the thread but, what do you guys think of a $135 price tag for a full SS freak kit?

Don’t hold your breath for the Freak kit or any other smart parts barrel with the new thread. After what I was told they will never be making one.

JustTooGood

11-11-2005, 03:40 PM

The SM-1 Orbium Barrel Kit is nice but how does it look on an Angel? What's with the white part and is it visible when the barrel is fully assembled? Also, does anyone own one and have pictures of it on their Angel?

severe333

11-11-2005, 07:09 PM

when is dye going to make the new g7 fly barrel and where can I get it? thanx for the help.

Deanomatic

11-11-2005, 07:37 PM

when is dye going to make the new g7 fly barrel and where can I get it? thanx for the help.

They already do, just Call Dye directly and order from them unless you have a proshop near you that deals with Dye, just make sure you tell them you need the new angel threads

dusted

11-11-2005, 07:57 PM

yes dye does make and has been selling the "new" angel threaded barrel and backs for a few weeks.

severe333

11-18-2005, 07:52 PM

what site can i go on to get one? and what would I need, a tip or the full? would the tip and the stock barrel be better than the full ultralite? thanx for the help guys.

PaintballStar18

11-19-2005, 02:44 PM

I called smart parts AGAIN yesterday and asked for one. They said theyre coming out with a new freak back and to call back around christmas time. I guess thats what I'll do. I wont rest until its on my gun lol

Psionic

12-30-2005, 12:18 AM

month later, any updates? didnt want to start a new thread....

PaintballStar18

12-30-2005, 12:29 AM

Smart Parts is supposed to call me as soon as they have the freak backs in stock, so i guess ill post it whenever they call

lefty21

12-30-2005, 07:25 AM

same here

psycho chicken

12-30-2005, 06:59 PM

Well I know that stiffi makes the new threads, I got a black mamba for x-mas.

JustTooGood

12-30-2005, 10:47 PM

If this wasn't already mentioned, Custom Products has updated their site to include the option for the G7 Fly/06 Speed Barrel Threads on their Pro Barrels/Kits.

Kiwiice

12-31-2005, 11:20 AM

Fixmyangel.com has the new Angel threads, dye backs i order 2 last week and they are on the way. hope this helps

Regards
Reaper

PaintballStar18

01-02-2006, 09:31 PM

I reeeeally want my freak kit. Those bastards better call soon

Static

01-03-2006, 09:46 PM

Do you guys know if the Powerlyte Scepter Kit is made for the G7 Fly, because I was going to order it today but then I came across this thread that said not many barrels are out for the G7 Fly.

Houck

01-06-2006, 09:47 AM

I recently bought a Dye UL for my fly and I noticed from feeling inside the breech with my finger that there seems to be a lip/edge between the breech and the barrel (and yes, it has the fly threads). I don't think that it is enought to have any effect, but I haven't shot any paint through it yet. Has anyone else experienced this?

n00g7

01-08-2006, 06:42 PM

lefty21

01-11-2006, 08:42 AM

OK...For all those interested in purchasing a freak back with the new g-fly threads, they are in...I got a call from a rep yesterday and will be ordering one today.!!!!!

Static

01-12-2006, 12:02 AM

Do you guys know were I can find a Powerlyte Scepter 7 bore kit for a G7 Fly? I just got mine today, and I ordered it for Angel threads but it would'nt fit into my marker. This sucks, I wish the G7 Fly kept the standard Angel threads.

Psionic

01-12-2006, 01:32 AM

lefty, can you post a pic of the freak on your fly when you get it?

p8ntballar

01-14-2006, 01:38 PM

do the freak backs come in ss also and do they have colored backs like they have for the shocker

lefty21

01-15-2006, 10:07 PM

Not sure if they come in colors, but I know they have SS...I will post pics soon, gotta get my hands on a cam.

WDP Shooter

01-25-2006, 12:10 AM

do the freak backs come in ss also and do they have colored backs like they have for the shocker

My freak bak will be in on friday. it is supposedly the new 06 style, but currently only available in gloss black aluminum.

DYE UL, from what im told, is only available dusted.

CP, Lucky, SM, Stiffi, etc... are all using the new thread, most are out of stock though.

JDemonpbt

02-07-2006, 08:06 PM

So Any news on those adaptors yet?

deepgreen

03-01-2006, 08:08 PM

Three quick questions:
1) How are the CP full bore kits?
2) How does the CP kit compare to the SM kit?
3) When is the release date for the SM kit?

Static

03-03-2006, 11:55 PM

Where can I find a Stiffi kit for the G7 Fly?

ALEJANDRO

03-04-2006, 09:05 PM

Hello guys can somebody tell me the difference betwin SM-1 and SM-3?
how about the CP -versus- SM?or somebody has a real data or facts betwin
those two barrel.

CHECK OUT MY ANGELS.

reball.us

03-08-2006, 03:20 PM

well i just oredred my cp and i am very happy with it the size checked out under the micrometers. it's pretty light and i think i am going to purchase the stiffi tip only because i ordred the front in red and it came out looking more like pink. oh well it shoots great and i can shoot some crappy paint out of the .693. CP is very fast at processing orders i ordered it from them on saturday and i had it next dayed from arizona to chicago, i had the barrel on tuesday.

Deanomatic

03-08-2006, 03:27 PM

Where can I find a Stiffi kit for the G7 Fly?

http://www.sitemfg.com/stiffi-dealer-listing.cfm

i just got mine directly from them, no hassles and the set looks amazing will be able to test it this weekend at tournament :)

Static

03-09-2006, 07:13 PM

I was thinking of getting the full freak over the Switch kit, what do you guys think? They both have their pros and cons, but I want a very quite barrel kit with a wide range of bore sizes becuase the tournaments that I go to sometimes have weird sized paint. I like the idea of the inserts for the freak, though I like the idea of having a carbon fiber barrel. I dont know what to get.:notsure:

What would you guys pick? Either this, http://www.sitemfg.com/switch.html, or this, http://www.smartparts.com/Store/Freak.aspx.

rick1000

03-09-2006, 07:45 PM

Though they are not the best looking barrels in the world. The full Freak kit with an All American front is hard to beat. Very quite too.

dusted

03-10-2006, 01:13 AM

i would take a stiffi over a freak in a min.

rick1000

03-10-2006, 07:31 AM

Other than they are overpriced, only go up to .693 bore, and cannot be cleaned with a redz or any other furry type swab. Don't get me wrong, they are great barrel systems but they do have their limitations.

reball.us

03-10-2006, 09:16 AM

why not have the best of both worlds freak back w/ inserts and the stiff tip, that's what i am doing with my cp backs

dusted

03-10-2006, 10:44 AM

Static

03-10-2006, 11:28 AM

Just wondering, what is the difference between the all-american front and the freak front?

Someone earlier posted that the all-american front is best used with a freak back.

rick1000

03-10-2006, 12:22 PM

what are you shooting that is larger than .693 ? beachballs filled with paint ?
Have you ever played in the summer in the south? Humidity swells paint like a *****.

villain666

03-10-2006, 08:14 PM

I Also Work At A Shop,and Tried Today To Put This Tread To The Test-a-5 Barrels On A Angel$$
It Does Not Work!! Point Blank Unless You Care Nothing For Yor Angel Threads And Grind It In There Its Crap$$$
Come On A-5 Cant Do This Then Angel Barrels On A-5's Cool Not Really Though......it Does Nothing To Help You....................kill Kill Kill

Shades

03-15-2006, 01:55 PM

Still on topic... It’s not easy for me with living in the UK to get hold of the Stiffi mamba kit... I run the Dye- Ultra light on my G7 Fly’s at the moment, but am thinking of shipping over the mamba kit.. Is it worth all the hassle?

Deanomatic

03-15-2006, 02:17 PM

it was for me, i love the Dye ULs, but after i tried the switch kit for my fly..

im not going back.

They shoot equally good, and this is just my personal opinion, the stiffi shoots through barrel breaks a LOT better.

which helped a lot this weekend when my team and i took 2nd place at the CPAopen, i didnt waste a lot of time using my squeege as i was shooting thru some thick fill paint easy ( Zap Chronic) all at -5 Celsius.

But it is expensive, the hassle isnt bad at all.. took them 1 week to ship it to me after placing and paying for my order.