Just a matter of time

[Hep]

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[FATBACK]

You are correct..............wow, anything for a buck...........

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

Umm sorry but the total rebuild for NO is going to be 4x's that of the war! Wow im surprised that didnt have a ___ wearing it...i stopped myself.

[lightemup183]

i just dont like how people blame bush for "causing" the hurricane, then saying its his fault because he couldnt save everybody in 10 minutes

[RaistlinsLegacy]

lol they had a week warning

[WF-Chase]

I'm so sick of people blaming Bush. What was he supposed to do? Go out on the beach, hold up his hand, and say "STOP HURRICANE!"? I'm sorry that some people can't look at the weather channel, notice a big storm coming their way, and not having the common sense to leave.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

for those who dont know...the mayor of new orleans got an offer from amtrak to help shuttle people away from the danger and he turned them down... he also recieved funding money for the levies but for some reason the money was never spent on them... i too am also sick of people who take a natural disaster like this and use it for political agendas... and suprise suprise...michael moore jumps to blame this natural disaster on bush... thus furthering the obviousness of his bitter hatred for bush... i dont want him to stop though... cuz it shows the true nature of the bush hater....bitter, angry, and always quick to point fingers but never a single suggestion on how to fix a problem.... now that im done with my rant ill stop here before it gets too political and the thread gets shut...

[paintreliever]

i agree 100% with jetwing
EVERYTHING he said was completely true
i hate it when people try (and sad to say,it does work) blame bush on every little thing
if bush did go out and stop the hurricane tho, i think i would quit paintball..because that would be bad ass stuff, but yea, he didnt, so people need to stop

[Hep]

Im kinda pissed because Bush didnt show up to our last tourney and stop the games and make us the winners of the series. It wasnt my teams fault we didnt practice enough or play hard enough but I still feel its his fault. See that spin on it. They had plenty of notice just some didnt want to leave and some just couldnt leave for whatever reason. Just like us this year we could have won more but just didnt. Its no one persons fault in particular. Im not defending Bush but cummon use some common sense every now and then. And BTW Im tired of hearing about this subject and I thought 9/11 was bad and just at a point where most industries/businesses where coming back after that disaster we get hit in the jaw with Katrina. It's always something.

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

proud Natoinal Rifle Asso. member...all bush here

[lefty21]

Guess I am the only liberal???? Here it goes: while I agree that people, in general, love to place the blame and point the finger, especially Bush haters, the responsiblity to evacuate citizens from any area in the U.S. is a joint responsibility headed by BUSH, who is merely a figure head, and shared by the chief of FEMA (FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY!) Brown, and also in part by the mayor/ local official of that particular area, in this case Mayor Nagin. No wonder why Brown was so freakin rightly fired, who by the way was appointed by a good friend of the Bush administration (nothing wrong with nepitism if the candidate is at least qualified) BUT FOR GOD SAKE BROWN WAS A HORSE BREEDER????? To everybody that states the people of New Orleans had been warned in advance YEAH BUT WITH WHAT RESOURCES WERE THEY TO EVACUATE THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE???? The idea that Mayor Nagin was offered such resource is hard to swallow, but if this is true than HE IS ALSO TO BLAME. Also, I hate to play the race card but it's so blatanly obvious that if these people had been rich white people or even just rich they would have been gone AND THEY WERE. I myslef am not black, but it is a crude fact that it just so happens that most poor people are people of color (we won't get into that) so there is the connection between economy and race. Yes Katrina was not Bush's fault, it wasn't anybody's fault so it doesn't help to point the finger, but you have to sit and ask yourself why weren't the necessary measures taken??? AND MORE IMPORTANT who was supposed to take these measures, why didn't they take them and Bush's favorite line what "LESSONS CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS TRAGEDY?"

Also, IMHFO the Bush admin including his dumb ass wife are just idots, Bush is the facade of a leader can't you just tell by the things he and his wife say???? I thought this stuff was obvious....BTW I'm not a Bush hater, but the only Bush I love is that of the opposite sex.

I am poretty sure I might get flamed, but I just couldn't hlep myself.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

"No wonder why Brown was so freakin rightly fired, who by the way was appointed by a good friend of the Bush administration" another example of how people like to sneak in cheap shots at bush...

"i got hit by a car today and that driver voted for bush i might add"

and fact of the matter is that they did have an advanced notice of the storm but people chose not to leave...hell you STILL have people there who are still in danger that refuse to leave whatever is left of their home...can we FORCE them out? or course not...cuz then we'd be nazis....but if they end up dyin too of their own free will guess who gets blamed that not more was done to evacuate the remaining survivors?

and as for the mayor having plenty of offers to evacuate but didnt is true, but u wont hear it on any of the news channels...why? cuz if would shift blame from bush... if its not the local governments responsibility then wat are they there for? decoration? i do admit though in the BIG picture bush has some of the responsibility and he has open apologised on behalf of wat he is responsible for. but to try and pin the entire thing on bush is just flat out stupid and the american people can see right through it for wat it is... another desperate attempt to smear the president...

[lefty21]

"No wonder why Brown was so freakin rightly fired, who by the way was appointed by a good friend of the Bush administration" another example of how people like to sneak in cheap shots at bush...

Huh?, I'm not at all taking shots just stating the facts....Brown was severly unqualified and was indirectly appointed by Bush, whom I am sure had to give the OK for his appointment in the first place.

"i got hit by a car today and that driver voted for bush i might add"

This really makes no sense and is no where close to the sentiment I am expressing in my post.

To address the idea that people are staying on their own accord, yeah we can't make them leave and it was their decision, but that only accounts for the minority and not the masses...I am not playing the blame game just stating that the measures that should have been taken weren't.

Oh, and maybe the mayor did get offers, which to my understanding was tunred down by the federal gov, but are you AWARE THAT CUBA WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO OFFER AID??? And that was absolutely tunred down by the fed gov. why? Don't give me that b/c they're communist crap (which is something else we won't get into)
It seems to me that the rejection of cuban aide was a matter of pride...And I hope you're
not implying that the mass media are Bush haters.. News is a business that does what it can to sell whehter pro or anti Bush.

The president smears himself with the comments he makes.

One last thing, I'm entirely against propaganda, including Morre's most recent film....No one should tell you what to believe, we should be able to think for ourselves.

[Bigal1]

What we expect is the calvary to ride over the hill and rescue us. What we don't appreciate is how difficult our expecation is to execute.

As I understand it, problems noted in the recovery efforts with first responders was (once again) that they couldn't communicate with each other. There's nothing more serious than hundreds of policemen, firemen, nationalguardsmen and military who while they stand side by side, can't talk to each other.

This isn't Brown's problem and it isn't Bush's. The Navy has been around for over 230 years and they still have trouble with this. It's a natural problem of being able to command and control large groups of people in a short amount of time. And it boils down to the need for effective communications. Note also that one of the most significant findings of the 9/11 tragedy was lack of effective communications during the response to that crisis.

[lefty21]

What we expect is the calvary to ride over the hill and rescue us. What we don't appreciate is how difficult our expecation is to execute.

As I understand it, problems noted in the recovery efforts with first responders was (once again) that they couldn't communicate with each other. There's nothing more serious than hundreds of policemen, firemen, nationalguardsmen and military who while they stand side by side, can't talk to each other.

This isn't Brown's problem and it isn't Bush's. The Navy has been around for over 230 years and they still have trouble with this. It's a natural problem of being able to command and control large groups of people in a short amount of time. And it boils down to the need for effective communications. Note also that one of the most significant findings of the 9/11 tragedy was lack of effective communications during the response to that crisis.

I can't agree more, but communication must start somewhere, and it's usaully from the top down especially in govermnmental agencies....We can use paintball as analogy we all know the positions and their respective roles , so goes the question who is responsible for communicating valubale info to the front guys????

[boogt]

eh I saved a fly from drowning, my good deed is done. I am also tired of hearing about whos fault it is. I am thinkin mother nature. if someone told me a tornado was hitting my town next week, guess where you wont find boog. IF you said in his town, you win. now go buy yourself a twinky and celebrate.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

And I hope you're
not implying that the mass media are Bush haters.. News is a business that does what it can to sell whehter pro or anti Bush.


well if you truly believe the media are not bush haters then you are sadly mistaken... name the last time the news covered anything concerning bush in a positive light

good news aint news sadly, just like reality shows, news shows gear towards the most obscene news to attract viewers. so if bush freed a nation or his daughter was pulled over for speeding...guess which is gonna be televised?

hey, we can agree to disagree, thats the beauty of it all

i for one am done tryin to argue my point to liberals, cuz they will most likely not agree with me regardless of the facts, so ill just let history play its course and then we'll see if bush was a good president or not

if i recall reagan went under similar circumstances or hatred but in the end he is regarded as one of our greatest presidents

[lefty21]

good news aint news sadly, just like reality shows, news shows gear towards the most obscene news to attract viewers. so if bush freed a nation or his daughter was pulled over for speeding...guess which is gonna be televised?

Exactly my point, attraction of viewers=$$$$$
I won't get into the whole "Bush freed a nation" bit.

if i recall reagan went under similar circumstances or hatred but in the end he is regarded as one of our greatest presidents

Regan was a liar, but so was Clinton...lol

[smith68]

Bush offered an aide package to the governor before the hurricane hit. The 'gov turned it down because it would have made her look weak by accepting federal aid. Bush called her again the next day, and again she turned it down. Because of the way we have set up our rules, the pres can't send in aid or national guard unless; 1) The local government asks for or accepts an offer for aid. 2) The site is declaired a disaster area. Bush declared the state a national disaster area before the hurricane even hit so that he could send down at least some sort of help! So Bush is the one person that actually tried to help, and he is the one that takes the blame for screwing up.
Oh, and the money that was supposed to go to the levies was sidetracked over to the casinos. That was a wonderful idea.

[Hep]

...if someone told me a tornado was hitting my town next week, guess where you wont find boog. IF you said in his town, you win. now go buy yourself a twinky and celebrate.


You would only have to leave your house as that's the only place the tornado would hit in your town. lol But that's Boog luck for ya! :notsure: And how about I buy myself a Bottle of Makers Mark instead.

[Won Hunglo]

Look at the positive the residents did:
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[fly88]

i hate u

[fly88]

they are dumb buying land below sea level in swamp land so ha

[Hep]

My man has now got an endorsement