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SpeedFreak05
08-20-2005, 10:24 PM
i was wondering how is the speed 05 bounce compared to the fly bounce, i mean i dont play with bounce in tournys or anything i just like to know these things....also what is the highest tr setting you can have it on for it to still be tourny legal but it kindof "helps" you shoot faster......i mean i can shoot 15bps without bounce but id like a little bit more

SpeedFreak05
08-21-2005, 12:07 AM
anyone?!?!?!

Presto333
08-21-2005, 09:09 PM
practice using tourney settings and u'll play better in tourneys ;). And tr settings are different depending on each guns setup, if u don't have any bounce now then just don't mess with it...

rix123
08-22-2005, 12:16 AM
....virtually any electronic marker out there today can be adjusted so bounce occurs, especially if it has both electronic adjustment (TR or 'debounce' settings) and mechanical (TOE screw, etc.) adjustment capability for the trigger. you can even set up an Angel with TR=1(Fly series) or TR=20+ (A4 series) to bounce via the mechanical adjustment aspect...

...bounce in most cases will just create headaches for you, in both rec or tourney games...

ANGEL_LUBER
08-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Please look at this link below:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=15558921#post15558921

Put it on TR=1. You will not add shots for sure.

Again, TR=1 will shoot as fast as anyone can pull the trigger. There should be no reason to put it on a higher TR setting, unless your true intention is to cheat by adding shots.

If your WDP marker seems a little slow on TR=1, that is because it is NOT ADDING SHOTS and it is shooting true semi-auto. Conversely, if your marker seems to shoot a little faster on TR=2 or more, it is because it is probably ADDING SHOTS.

THESE SETTINGS MENTIONED IS FOR NEWER WDP MARKERS (OPPOSITE FOR OLDER MODELS)

SpeedFreak05
08-22-2005, 08:30 PM
well i know you could get them to mechanically bounce i was just talking Debounce settings.....because the fly has twenty two debounce settings and the speed 05 only has 5 so i thought there would be something different about one

ANGEL_LUBER
08-23-2005, 11:47 AM
SpeedFreak05....

Sorry about the confusion. I assumed you read the manual.

On the A4Fly & G7, the TR (Trigger Offset) Ranges from 1-20. You can access this setting by opening your grips and pressing the yellow button several time until you hit the Trigger Offset menu. You can now change the settings by pressing the blue button. TR=1 is true semi-auto. The marker will filter all false signals and will not add shots. Any tr setting greater than 1 will increase the probability of adding shots.

On the SPEED05, the TR (Trigger Offset) Ranges from 1-5 LED (i believe that the 6th light is demo mode on older versions). You can access this setting by opening your grips and pressing the button several time until the top LED turns RED. You can now change the settings by pulling the trigger. TR="1 LED" is true semi-auto. The marker will filter all false signals and will not add shots. Any tr setting greater than "1 LED" will increase the probability of adding shots.

Again, TR=1 will shoot as fast as anyone can pull the trigger. There should be no reason to put it on a higher TR setting, unless your true intention is to cheat by adding shots.

To make things more clear. By setting up your marker on TR=1, your marker will not electronically add shots. There is a difference between "electronically adding shots" and "mechanical bounce". WDP Trigger Offset is somewhat simular to WAS's debouce setting (but not exactly the same).

SpeedFreak05
08-23-2005, 05:11 PM
thanks man, the thing is i havnt bought the gun yet so i didnt have the manual and i was just looking for some advice and you definately gave it to me thanks! :-)