Tadao Release Date?

[LayinRocker]

Is there any new updates to when the tadao board will be released?

Also what modification would it take to make it fit an 04 Speed?

[Sparco]

Layin, no further update last I spoke with Will. It's targeted at a mid/early September release. To my knowledge the board has not been tested in an '04 Speed yet. However the board does not offer any Sensi hardware support, so you'd need to upgrade to the MT "Fly" mode. As far as them putting a Tadao board in your marker instead of a Euro or Fly board, there's been no confirmed discussion of that.

I'll snag an '04 Speed from the shop this week and see how difficult it is to rig into the trigger frame.

[LayinRocker]

Sparco, yeah i know it doesnt support sensi. I was planning to get the Fly conversion first then dropping the tadao board in. Once its released i wonder if the MT's would just do the eye mod without dropping in a new board, hmm. If they would i would just drop in the tadao because from what i understand, the MT's wont be offering the tadao board with the fly conversion for a while.

Keep us all updated on how the board fits on 04! Thanks for any info.

[matt-thePBguy]

My 05 speed would love a Tadao.

[cyrakx]

any new updates on the release of the board, and what the final modes are going to be for the board?

[KEN CRANE]

4-6 weeks hopefuly sooner

[ATSAR]

well, i talked to the techs at NEO. it will be out soon and will be cheap, thats the info i got, lol.

4-6 weeks

< 150

i got to hold it and asked if he needed a beta tester, lol. Pretty cool, drops right in

[LayinRocker]

Any word on if it will work for an 04 speed? If not, is an 04 speed compatible board going to be released?

[pb8907]

im sure itll fit, the g 7 board fits in an 04 speed so it should

[Studmuffin]

well the Fly version of the tadao should fit fine because the stock fly board is the same as the stock '04 speed board(the way it operates i mean).

[akpaintballer13]

I got to hold it first. I would have stolen it, but I'm scared to see Bob come chase me :bouncer: .
It is sick I love it.
Matthew

[Sparco]

It'll fit the '04 Speed, it just won't support the Sensi system.

[ICE BERG 29]

Will it be available within the next week or two? I CANT WAIT!

[Sparco]

I spoke with Will two days ago and he said the board is going into production this week. That translates into a release date somewhere within the next 4 to 6 weeks from now.

I'm sure the actual release date is subject to change as there could be delays in production but that was the last update I received from him.

[ICE BERG 29]

sounds kewl! But I dont know if I can take that long of a wait... :dunno:

[firemedic30]

Sorry for this.....but what does/ what is these board supposed to do???

[welted]

Any chance someone will have these at the upcoming San Diego NPPL event (ie, the Angel tent)?? cuz i really want one, and would love to buy it there

[germz]

quick question will it use a 9-volt or the rechargable?

[thatguy!]

quick question will it use a 9-volt or the rechargable?
I'm pretty sure that will depend on what version of the board you buy.

I may be wrong.

[thefword000]

I'm pretty sure that will depend on what version of the board you buy.

I may be wrong.

yeah i think the 05 speed board will use a 9 volt and the rest will use the stock battery.

[Fu_ness]

So, is this board "warranty safe"?

Cuz, Dunno if im going to do it if it screws me of my warranty...

But, wow, it would be awesome to have a tadeo board.....
any word on how light my wallet will be if I do buy one?

[ITO]

You only get a 6 month warranty...by the time this is actually released chances are you will be out of warranty anyway.

[Fu_ness]

Wow, forget that last post. Ken, you can delete it. I haven't been to this section of the forum in a LONG time...and, after posting this, was looking at the other threads on this....and saw that huge thread, shall we call it Rix v. Presto.
So, sorry about asking the same question that has been asked 23974 times before.
Like I said, I have just heard distant rumblings about the tadeo board, though I thought like all the other board mods (Predator, etc) it would void warrenty. Never heard the Tadeo and MT came to some kind of agreement.
So, sorry for the ignorant question...:D

[KEN CRANE]

Wow, forget that last post. Ken, you can delete it. I haven't been to this section of the forum in a LONG time...and, after posting this, was looking at the other threads on this....and saw that huge thread, shall we call it Rix v. Presto.
So, sorry about asking the same question that has been asked 23974 times before.
Like I said, I have just heard distant rumblings about the tadeo board, though I thought like all the other board mods (Predator, etc) it would void warrenty. Never heard the Tadeo and MT came to some kind of agreement.
So, sorry for the ignorant question...:D
no sweat all good

[LayinRocker]

Is there an Official date this will be availible? Also, when is a fly compatible board going to be released?

[asylumkid]

we need a release date!!!!!!!!!

[Sparco]

Is there an Official date this will be availible? Also, when is a fly compatible board going to be released?

Last I spoke with Will there is no official "release date" that's been decided yet. Thus the reason why no one has posted one.

[AC3 J03]

This questions are for the MT's

Ok, I've read all the thread and pages of each thread (more like slow skimmed it). I could not find how will the board release. Will it be release for G7 and Speed 05 first and weeks down the road will be for A4 fly and the rest?? Or will they will be release at the same time??

>>> Please guide me to the right direction if this question had already been answered.
Thanks

[ITO]

Less talk, more action.

[thefword000]

Will it be release for G7 and Speed 05 first and weeks down the road will be for A4 fly and the rest?? Or will they will be release at the same time??

Isn't the G7 software basically just updated Fly software? So can't you use the G7 board in a fly?

[Sparco]

This questions are for the MT's

Ok, I've read all the thread and pages of each thread (more like slow skimmed it). I could not find how will the board release. Will it be release for G7 and Speed 05 first and weeks down the road will be for A4 fly and the rest?? Or will they will be release at the same time??

>>> Please guide me to the right direction if this question had already been answered.
Thanks

Seeing as the MTs are most likely enjoying the holiday weekend I wanted to answer your question. Being that I've assisted with this project (from its start).

There will be two boards released. The first board will be for the '05 Speed and the second board will be for the G7/A4.

That means that the G7/A4 board will fit in the G7, Fly, A4 and '04 Speed.

Both boards will be released and available at the same time.

[RPMPIRE]

any word on the release date yet?

anticipation has been killing me for months
:bounce:

[welted]

There will be two boards released. The first board will be for the '05 Speed and the second board will be for the G7/A4.

That means that the G7/A4 board will fit in the G7, Fly, A4 and '04 Speed.

Both boards will be released and available at the same time.
hmmm, this seems different than what Bob said, unless i'm mistaken, or something has changed...
http://www.angelowners.com/showthread.php?t=46306
to me this meant that that there would be three different boards: an 04speed/A4/Fly, an 05speed, and a G7 based on the differences in leaf-springs and batteries

[Sparco]

hmmm, this seems different than what Bob said, unless i'm mistaken, or something has changed...
http://www.angelowners.com/showthread.php?t=46306
to me this meant that that there would be three different boards: an 04speed/A4/Fly, an 05speed, and a G7 based on the differences in leaf-springs and batteries

Somewhat. The A4 board and G7 board will be built off the same platform. The board itself will be near indentical in terms of the PCB component. However, component placement will be slightly re-arranged between the two boards because of the trigger interface. The battery situation should not differ as they both use the same power supply and plug.

[ATSAR]

will it work for a LCD 45 frame on a fly?

[Sparco]

will it work for a LCD 45 frame on a fly?

Don't know, haven't tried. How does the Fly board currently fit in the frame? Does it fit? Then that should answer your question.

[ITO]

Can this be pre-ordered from any of the AOG sponsors/retailers?

[ATSAR]

Don't know, haven't tried. How does the Fly board currently fit in the frame? Does it fit? Then that should answer your question.

fits in fine, im just worried it will work differently with the trigger

[rkhtwo@aol.com]

"Sorry for this.....but what does/ what is these board supposed to do???" thats what i wanna know. what the hell will it do?

[Trigga Nometry]

"Sorry for this.....but what does/ what is these board supposed to do???" thats what i wanna know. what the hell will it do?It is a drop in board/woftware that gives you different modes of firing, a microswitch trigger rather than an opto. It basically gives you an option of another type of board (with different bells and whistles) in your Angel.

[sirekilla]

It is a drop in board/woftware that gives you different modes of firing, a microswitch trigger rather than an opto. It basically gives you an option of another type of board (with different bells and whistles) in your Angel.
Basically just make it like every other gun out there

[paintreliever]

actually no
it gives the gun a different board...

[sirekilla]

actually no
it gives the gun a different board...
yes, tadao like timmys and dm4's

[thatguy!]

yes, tadao like timmys and dm4's
Annnnnndddd, whats the problem with that?

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

the angel is different and some people want to keep it like that.

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

and when is the board coming out. Thanks

[paintreliever]

yes
but how does a board effect that? it doesnt
and if it does, by your standards, then this board is for people who want something different, may it be the fell of the pull, or fire selections..

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

I think he is talking about it being a microswitch instead of optoswitch which no other manufactures have. So by using the new board it will make it like other manufacture's guns. I am not sure if I want to spend 100 or what ever it cost for a new board which has different modes and has a microswitch on it. But I am interested in looking at it and if I like it. I don't really care if it makes it like other guns as long as it works as good or better than the stock board I am fine with it. I hope that sort of answers what you were asking if not sorry.

[sirekilla]

or you could just buy a ir3 microswitch board for 75 bux and keep your wdp warrenty......

[welted]

the board is MT certified, so you keep your warranty...

[ITO]

6 month warrnaty... that is one big whoop-tee-do.

[yps]

I learned that the opti switch will be replaced with the micro switch, that was one of the reasons that I liked my 05 speed . I wonder if the extra zip is worth the lost opti..

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

ya I love the opto switch so much better than any other microswitch I have found so it would have to be alot different than any other board for me to put up 100 dollars or so for it. I have never had a problem with my opto swich and I have been hit in the trigger frame (where the trigger enters it, that little hole) before and nothing happened so I don't see the big problem. I also have an 05 speed.

[karma]

Egos have optoswitch i believe. User friendly modes and programmable modes on boards are always fun.

[welted]

I learned that the opti switch will be replaced with the micro switch, that was one of the reasons that I liked my 05 speed . I wonder if the extra zip is worth the lost opti..
since you have an 05 speed already, if you get your board flashed with the new software, it should be essentially the same thing, and you get to keep your optoswitch...

[speedkills]

just about every electro gun out there uses a microswitch. only guns other than angels that i can think of are e1 and e2 cockers

[ralfelor]

So will this board make the 05 speed equivalent to the firepower of the G7 (Dark G7 for that matter..I understand the Dark G7's will have the Musashi Boards as well)

[leperchaun]

man to get back on subject when will they be released???

[ITO]

DITTO

man to get back on subject when will they be released???

[ralfelor]

I talked to Wapred Sportz headquarters, they're thinking next month in October during the World Cup...(marketing, of course...wadda concept!)

[ralfelor]

OOPS...Sorry Guys..that's the release date for the Dark G7...this is the TADAO forum..DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHH!

[xxmjumpman23xx]

OOPS...Sorry Guys..that's the release date for the Dark G7...this is the TADAO forum..DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHH!

The dark g7 is gonna be SICK, all u fly guys should have waited to see what the dark looks like, then again I see a lot of people holding off on the fly to see the dark, cant wait!!!

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

can people not stay on topic. So no one knows when the board is coming out? They said that it was going to be out earlier this month in august but things change I guess. Wish I knew when it was coming out.

[killing machine]

It will most likely be at World Cup

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

they say that the ego boards are coming out then but nothing about the angel boards.

[killing machine]

everybody releases new stuff at world cup or at least previews it

[KEN CRANE]

everybody releases new stuff at world cup or at least previews it


release date will be released soon. we will not release this until we can no longer find a possiable way to cause this board to fail. so far we cannot. we will not race to get this out.those who wait will be much happier customers than the ones that chose to go elsewhere.

[1865]

release date will be released soon. we will not release this until we can no longer find a possiable way to cause this board to fail. so far we cannot. we will not race to get this out.those who wait will be much happier customers than the ones that chose to go elsewhere.
I almost ordered the Predator last night. My roommate talked me out of it because he has been so pleased with the Tadao board he got for his Cyborg. Now I'm glad he did! This has been worse than waiting for Christmas.

[Skinny C]

i have been waiting ever sence i found out about the new board, i look at this tread every time i get on the aog. i have alot of friends that use matrix's and they all use the tadao. im looking forward to getting this board when it comes out.

[esandov]

Can we rename it the Tomorrow board ;) ? ("it will be out tomorrow")

[KEN CRANE]

Can we rename it the Tomorrow board ;) ? ("it will be out tomorrow")


no but we can rename it the board that will work as designed and discribed when you recieve it.....

[October Fly]

Idea: Ken...Does the Tadao board already have a name? If not, Can you have a contest where AOGers submit names as suggestions for the new board. He whose name you choose wins a free board. :notsure:

[Studmuffin]

yeah that'd be kinda cool.

[Trigga Nometry]

The prototype that I was fortunate enough to test had ANGEL FORCE printed right on it along with the Tadao lettering.

My guess is that since it is a Tadao product made to the MT's specs, it will probably be an ANGEL FORCE board. Just guessing though....

The prototype that I got to try was just that a prototype to get the final version completed. It got sent back to get that improved. Can't imagine how they'd improve on the performance of the prototype but I'm sure they have. Can't wait for the release date!

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

ya this is worse than waiting for till christmas. I also put off buying a predator board because everyone says this board is going to be awesome. I guess I will buy a evolve kit and then save my money up again and buy the board if it is out then and everyone likes it.

[BigAlPoulos]

talked to the owner/creater of tadao he said the board should be out in late october.

[ITO]

Yeah he told me late August back in July.

[KEN CRANE]

Yeah he told me late August back in July.

obvoulsly ito this is why we didnt give a firm date on the release. it sucks that we cant tell you that it will be ready on the 9th of october but as you will find out, our board will work without being rushed and ALL of the bugs fixed and enhancments are added. were not fools running blindly into this as it is a whole new relm of paintball and we plan on doing the best to get it right the first time . this is how we do things this will not change ever,as well we have partnered with the smartest,most professional electronics person in paintball in our opinion so this is why will wont rush as well.life is long this venture is for the long haul not just until a new flavor is here.is also remember we have been testing testing this with pro players all season,we know what you as a player wants.so as soon as its ready for sale we will let you guys know right away.

[October Fly]

So...How about the contest Ken?

[1865]

obvoulsly ito this is why we didnt give a firm date on the release. it sucks that we cant tell you that it will be ready on the 9th of october but as you will find out, our board will work without being rushed and ALL of the bugs fixed and enhancments are added. were not fools running blindly into this as it is a whole new relm of paintball and we plan on doing the best to get it right the first time . this is how we do things this will not change ever,as well we have partnered with the smartest,most professional electronics person in paintball in our opinion so this is why will wont rush as well.life is long this venture is for the long haul not just until a new flavor is here.is also remember we have been testing testing this with pro players all season,we know what you as a player wants.so as soon as its ready for sale we will let you guys know right away.
I can live with this. But I expect him to be chained to his workbench/computer with you standing over him, whip in hand, until it's ready! :tongue:

[welted]

for what it's worth, i talked to Bob last week and he said that the prototypes had been completed, that the board had gone into production, and that probably late October it'd hit the market. but obviously, no guarantees...

[hgroberts]

is it gona be done by cup

[esandov]

Ken the last message wasnt ment toward the techs. Take your time, the loyal will wait.

The last post was directed to those who havent read the damn thread so far and keep asking the same friggin' question. You friggin' idiots. I mean a couple of times I get, but come on guys 6 pages thus far?

To the techs: I am starting to get why you get irrate in posting.

[KEN CRANE]

Ken the last message wasnt ment toward the techs. Take your time, the loyal will wait.

The last post was directed to those who havent read the damn thread so far and keep asking the same friggin' question. You friggin' idiots. I mean a couple of times I get, but come on guys 6 pages thus far?

To the techs: I am starting to get why you get irrate in posting.


lol no issue its what it is lol

[KEN CRANE]

is it gona be done by cup
yes but i didnt say this years cup.....

[hgroberts]

:wall: :puzzled: :fanboy:

[sirekilla]

yes but i didnt say this years cup.....
wow this is going to be a while lol

[ITO]

I wonder if any thread can be posted here without someone having to re-affirm their loyalty to Angel, and praise a master tech? Sometimes when reading stuff here I feel really embarrassed for the poster as well as the MTs. It must feel uniquely uncomfortable being in a position of adoration, and having a fan club based on something as esoteric as paintball marker development and repair.

My loyalties are to quality, dependability, and customer service. Brand name has NOTHING to do with it. I have done my homework and Tadao makes high quality products and the level of MT support for this board despite the all moaning and groaning that it’s just a “cheaters board” makes me want one. Yes, I believe the MTs have put a lot of quality work into this and I appreciate it so much I am going to buy one when they decide to sell me one.

So they are going to be release it some day maybe this month, maybe next month and maybe at a big paint ball show, great…good for you.

What I want to know is: Bob, Ken, is there a way to pre-order this board on either of your websites NOW?

[drumr79]

I am hoping I can buy the board and install myself if it is easy enough. But I can't wait to see what this puppy can do.

[KEN CRANE]

I wonder if any thread can be posted here without someone having to re-affirm their loyalty to Angel, and praise a master tech? Sometimes when reading stuff here I feel really embarrassed for the poster as well as the MTs. It must feel uniquely uncomfortable being in a position of adoration, and having a fan club based on something as esoteric as paintball marker development and repair.

My loyalties are to quality, dependability, and customer service. Brand name has NOTHING to do with it. I have done my homework and Tadao makes high quality products and the level of MT support for this board despite the all moaning and groaning that it’s just a “cheaters board” makes me want one. Yes, I believe the MTs have put a lot of quality work into this and I appreciate it so much I am going to buy one when they decide to sell me one.

So they are going to be release it some day maybe this month, maybe next month and maybe at a big paint ball show, great…good for you.

What I want to know is: Bob, Ken, is there a way to pre-order this board on either of your websites NOW?

we wont do preorders any more until we are absoulty sure of a release date. as a group we have been put behind the 8 ball too many times and looked foolish. as soon as the board house making the board sends the final ship day we will post pre orders. the boards are in production. they are being made. this is now what we are waiting on. all of the testing is done,will (tadao) is happy with what has been acomplished and they are under way.

[ITO]

we wont do preorders any more until we are absoulty sure of a release date. as a group we have been put behind the 8 ball too many times and looked foolish. as soon as the board house making the board sends the final ship day we will post pre orders. the boards are in production. they are being made. this is now what we are waiting on. all of the testing is done,will (tadao) is happy with what has been acomplished and they are under way.

Thank you, as someone who has ordered a few PC boards before I understand exactly where this process is now.

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

I am glad you guys put so much work into your products and thanks for taking the time to do it. It may sound like I am praising you but I am not I am just giving my gratitude. :smile: But I am glad to hear that they are being made now.

[October Fly]

The same people that are griping because it's not out yet are the same people that would be whining if the board was rushed to their front door before all the bugs were worked out.

[KEN CRANE]

The same people that are griping because it's not out yet are the same people that would be whining if the board was rushed to their front door before all the bugs were worked out.


thanks guys as i see that you know understand why ,so its much appreciated.

[drumr79]

does anyone know the ballpark price for the board?

[welted]

less than $150

[ralfelor]

So fellow 05 Speed Users and Mastertechs-Combine the tadao board with the evolve kit, do we pretty much have a comparable marker to the G7 or Fly..just heavier?

Ray

[Studmuffin]

...no

[ralfelor]

Wow, thanks for the response studmuffin! Now, can anyone be more specific and elaborate..evolve makes the 05 speed air efficient and provides low/no kick like the G7...the tadao board..I assume will have settings that will allow the marker to fire even faster and more effectively. Does the G7/Fly still have board settings and internal designs that make it more air efficient and fire more effectively than a Tadao'd/Evolved 05 Speed?

thanks

ray

[Studmuffin]

Hey ralfelor, anytime man. I'm there for you.

[sirekilla]

Wow, thanks for the response studmuffin! Now, can anyone be more specific and elaborate..evolve makes the 05 speed air efficient and provides low/no kick like the G7...the tadao board..I assume will have settings that will allow the marker to fire even faster and more effectively. Does the G7/Fly still have board settings and internal designs that make it more air efficient and fire more effectively than a Tadao'd/Evolved 05 Speed?

thanks

ray
the tadoa board is a microswitch that wdp got away from in 2002 because they invented the superior opto system. The g7 has larger air passages. the g7 is better than the speed 05(speed 05 uses the fly engine. but both are very good. search for the differences because the g7 is a totaly different marker

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

I thought that the G7 just had the bells and wistles and the 05 speed didn't but I can be very mistaken. I think that the 05 speed with evolve and tadao board would actually be better than the g7 stock because a g7 doesn't get over 2000 shots to a 68 4500 cold fill does it. Also they are just about as fast as the other. The only difference would be that the g7 has a lcd screen. But I can be very wrong. Sorry studmuffin but I think the 05 speed would be better but I am not a tech so I don't know and thanks for the trigger job on my 05 speed.

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

I guess I am wrong. Sorry

[ralfelor]

Sirekilla,

Thanks for the info.:doc:

[Studmuffin]

lol. I've gotten just over a case of paint with the graphite G7 i had, but i haven't had my blue one long enough to break it in and see how well the effeciency*sp* is. plus i've been using a 45/45. i usually got around 1100-1200 on it.


BUT ANYWAY BACK ON THE SUBJECT. I will be buying a tadao board when they come out, regardless of what everyone thinks or says *cough* presto *cough* lol.

[ralfelor]

Agreed. A lot of good things have come out of tadaotechnologies..so I'm definitely getting one to add to the evolve kit on my 05 speed..Ken, thanks for the Evolve advice...:mt:

[Ch405]

what modes will the board have?
reading the thread, i take it a G7tadao board would fit my joyA4fly?

will they be available in the UK?
where abouts will they be sold? what websites?

cheers
craig

[esandov]

What I am trying to come to terms with is this G7>5peed. Toatally different marker? I just need someone with Tech Savy to actully point out the new technologies incorporated into the G7 as opposed to small innovations. Larger passage ways makes it completely different? I just cant accept that as a qualifying for totaly different. I mean it still is a 3 tube design right?

I am not knocking the G7. I know players who like the feel for an evolved speed over the stock G7. Also, I cant deny the possibility for the potential of a moded G7 (knowing what can be done to a speed).

Does a G7 really have less kick than an Evolved speed? How can that be if the Hammer is lighter (10g or 6g evolve hammer vs. a approx 20g hammer in the g7 [down from the 35g original]) and the bolt is smaller (less reciprocating mass?). Can the lowered pressure really compensate for these differences?

I just think that some people who have vested heavily in the G7 are really warping the differences between a G7 and a Speed.

5/6peed+Tadao+Newton = pretty damn close to stock G7 (for less).

What you cant buy as an upgrade for a 5peed: Awe Factor, Sexyness, Intimidation factor, Screen.

Personally, I will try to get the most out of my 5peed before giving it up. I will preorder a Tadao when it becomes Avail.

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

you can get a lcd screen when you buy the euro board put in but it will cost you 300. At least that is what one of the site on the top of the page said.

[rkhtwo@aol.com]

Its october 12 and im still waiting for this freaking board!!!

[1865]

I just think that some people who have vested heavily in the G7 are really warping the differences between a G7 and a Speed.
You are 100% wrong. If you shoot a G7 and a Speed you will understand exactly why we say the G7 is better. If you don't have that opportunity, the G7 review from Sparco's signature will help you understand the physical differences:

http://www.princeton.edu/~fearing/G7/docs/review.pdf

(Did you write that review Sparco? I want to give credit where it is due :cheers: )

[Sparco]

Indeed I did, thanks for the plug 1865! I'm currently plugging away on a G7 Fly vs. G7 one as well. Followed soon thereafter by an '06 Speed write up.

Busy busy!

[jerseyballer15]

ive shot both, and didnt see much of a difference. lighter, kinda, less kick, maybe. but shooting wise, felt the same to me

[1865]

ive shot both, and didnt see much of a difference. lighter, kinda, less kick, maybe. but shooting wise, felt the same to me
I have to wonder if the G7 you shot was tuned in properly. I've shot mine side by side with a Speed and can tell a distinct difference in vibration, muzzle rise during rapid fire and my snap shooting accuracy. But it did take me some trial and error (and lots of reading here on AOG) to get everything set up just right.

[esandov]

Ha 1865.....it is in fact you who are wong all along!

I was about %87.37 wrong. ;)

That was an incredible article. Sparco excellent work. I recant my previous statements about hardly a difference.

I shot the reball G7Fly @ SD and I thought my marker compared favorably. @ $1100 an evolved speed is pretty wicked and you have $400 spared for ho's (ho ho's that is ;) ) hahahahahahah mwahhahah.

Again great work Sparco, and 1865, thanks for bringing that article to my attention.

[Sparco]

esandov, thank you for the kind words. I really put forth a lot of effort in an attempt to disprove some misconceptions. Your argument is well taken, in fact it's a very popular one in the world of technology.

Take an older platform, invest $$$ in an attempt to make it comparable
- or -
Sell an older platform, invest $$$ and own the newest platform

Quite frankly, I think too often we're quick to jump towards the latter rather then the former. Many times when a new marker is released you'll see a mass exodus of used guns from the now, older platform. However, I think people are beginning to realize that while there are performance improvements between the '05 Speed and Angel G7 (or Fly for that matter), there's absolutely nothing wrong with the '05 Speed. The biggest thing that people need to learn to get over, is that you've invested a great deal of money into an item that depreciates rapidly. :)

[esandov]

Sparco, that article is a superior product. I wish I could turn to PGI or Facefull and find such a quality peice. It was well done and especially comprehensive. I think you should push for a monthly publication honestly. I am sure that that kind of qulity work would manifest itself in sales.

[uniquenewyork15]

so whats the final word...WHEN IS IT COMING OUT I WANT IT

[KEN CRANE]

so whats the final word...WHEN IS IT COMING OUT I WANT IT

WHEN ITS DONE

[thatguy!]

WHEN ITS DONE
Seriously, y'all. They'll release it when they're damn good and ready! Stop badgering them and expecting it will come out last week. Do you want a product good enough to take up residence in your precious Angel?

Then sit your ass down and wait patiently like the rest of us.

[BlackZach76]

it going to be worth the wate

[Studmuffin]

yeah i've been waiting for ever, so it will be like christmas when it comes out...

[jollyrgrcaptain]

Will it fit a Cobra IR3? Cuz I had a Tadao in my old matrix and it was sick, so i can only speculate that in an Angel it will be something nasty. Also, will the Musashi Chips be compatible with this board?

[wdp-fly]

anyone know how much theyre goinna run for?

[BoB]

this many (holds ex-amount of fingers)

[dynastySSS]

this many (holds ex-amount of fingers)

a.k.a. this :thefinger

[WDP ir3 2k3]

will it support intellfeed?

[Sparco]

will it support intellfeed?

Yes, have you been following the threads at all... or just don't want to take the time to look? :stooges:

All versions of the board will support intellifeed with customization.

[Deanomatic]

Sparco, if possible can you do a comparison asap on stock board vs tadao asap too ;) even prelims of beta testing woudl be good ;)

Just feed us something :P

[Sparco]

Deanomatic,

If you run a username search on me you'll find some stuff I posted in the '05 Speed forum a while back when I was primarily focusing my testing on that board. I had logged a lot more time with that board then the G7 board, the MTs then got involved and handled the majority of testing from there.

Tell you what, I'm visiting "caps lock" this weekend and I'll see if I can prod him for some videos.

[Deanomatic]

cool ;)

Its not that im unhappy with the stock board in my G7 Fly, but any help i can get to make it feel just "perfect" for me .. is worth investing in :)


btw.. thx for the fast replies too ;) helps with the withdrawal pains when off the field :P

[uniquenewyork15]

ok so whats the latest...price, date or release...anything please im desperate

[KEN CRANE]

ok so whats the latest...price, date or release...anything please im desperate


soon soon soon btw that picture is awful

[Sparco]

Ken and I will be working on some final touches this weekend with the G7 Tadao board. I'm sure I can convince him to film a video or get some neat photos.

[uniquenewyork15]

yeah that pic is awful, the reason i put it on there lol and what will the price be!!!!

[Studmuffin]

i say around the same price as the tadao boards for other markers...

[golobulus]

ego boards are already available for pre-order, that means the angel one sshould be right around the corner too !?! *hopefully*

[1865]

I'm sure I can convince him to film a video or get some neat photos.
Oh please no! I don't think I could take SEEING it without being able to have it!

[BlackZach76]

Ken and I will be working on some final touches this weekend with the G7 Tadao board. I'm sure I can convince him to film a video or get some neat photos.

a vid would be relly nice

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

Oh please no! I don't think I could take SEEING it without being able to have it!
I agree I don't think I would be able to watch it without being able to get it.

[1865]

It's right around the corner! I spoke with a rep at one of the AOG sponsors who said that they should be getting the board in next week! Christmas is coming early to my house! I love exclamation points!

[uniquenewyork15]

whats the price. i want this board so bad but i need the priceto know if i can even afford it.

[1865]

whats the price. i want this board so bad but i need the priceto know if i can even afford it.
I was told that they are not 100% sure what their prioe point will be, but that at this point they think it will be around $150. (So pretty much exactly what everyone has figured up till this point)

[ITO]

Oh so you dont really know either?

[1865]

Oh so you dont really know either?
Did I hurt your feelings over in the "lobbin" post?


So sorry.

[ITO]

You posted in that thread...hmmm I did not notice.

[ralfelor]

Hey Mr. Crane,

Will performance angel be taking pre-orders on 05 speed tadao boards soon...I just saw the news on the Dark G7 (equipped with Tadao Board) so I'm assuming there may be pre-order info coming out. I can't get to your website cuz my job is filtering it out...damn websense!

Thanks

Ray

[ITO]

I just stopped by both Ken's and Bob's site and did not see a place to preorder on either.

[uniquenewyork15]

well i want this board, just to let everyone know

[Houck]

I recently (just this week) sold my DM5 and now have an new Arsenal fly on the way. I had the THump board in my DM5, the M3 before that, and the first musashi before that. These are a must for a matrix owner because the stock board SUCKS. However, from what I understand, the stock G7 fly board has all the fire modes needed for tournament play and plenty of debounce settings. I have nothing but good things to say about Tadao products, but I can't understand why you people feel so strongly that you need this board? You already have what you NEED.
I've been out of the Angel circle for a while and maybe there is something about this situation I don't understand. Can someone please explain why I need this board?

[1865]

You already have what you NEED.
What does NEED have to do with it? I WANT it.

[Arsenal7]

Can someone please explain why I need this board?

We Need More Power- Tim The Tool Man: Home Improvement 1993

[1865]

I just got off the phone with All Star Paintball(also known as AOG supporter Angel Parts) and they are taking pre orders for the board. 260-485-5292. They said it will be a few weeks before the boards ship, "probably about the time we get back from Miami".

Edited because I typed the WRONG NUMBER. :(

[Arsenal7]

Does anyone know what modes the tadeo board will have?

[1865]

Does anyone know what modes the tadeo board will have?
Are you being serious? If so please just read this thread. If not throw up a smilie to keep from confusin' a brotha.

[Arsenal7]

The phone number you provided above, is disconnected. I tried it 5 times.

[Houck]

What does NEED have to do with it? I WANT it.

I just asked what I think is a legitimate question. There is really no need for smart replies. That just shows your intelligence, or lack of it.

[1865]

The phone number you provided above, is disconnected. I tried it 5 times.
That would be because I gave you the wrong number. :notsure:

Try this one 260-485-5292, also 260-
804-3742. Sorry for the confusion!

[1865]

I just asked what I think is a legitimate question. There is really no need for smart replies. That just shows your intelligence, or lack of it.My response was brief and funny, that's the soul of intelligence. Have a pleasant weekend.

[Arsenal7]

Ok 1865, I took your advice and consulted the other pages of this thread in order to find a answer. The question(s) being; what modes will be avalible and more importantly what are the benefits over a stock G7 Fly board (in lamens terms). However, after carefully reading through every page in this thread, I've still been unable to locate a answer to the question.

Can someone please humor me with a answer? Forgive my n00bieness! Thanks.

[Kermit Da Frog]

Arsenal - Some people want the new board due to its microswitch... Like old school Angels, Early Ir3's and back had microswitchs not opto. Some people may want it since it can be tinkered with abit more than the Angel board. Some people want it just because. Its like buying a G7 when you already have 4 other Angels... Do I need it, no, will it make you play better, no. Some people just want it.... You ever buy something just because you wanted it... OH yea, you are a Angel owner or are looking to be one. I take it you have to have an Angel because a pump, spider or other lowend gun wont due????

[1865]

Arsenal7, I wasn't trying to bust your chops or anything. :)

For me, I have had a problem with eliminating bounce while getting a trigger stroke that I like. I think that the microswitch will give me a better feel while eliminating that bounce. I also get twitchy if I don't do SOMETHING to my marker every month or two. :drools:

[RPMPIRE]

personally, i miss microswitches. my speed 05 runs on an optoswitch, but i think i shoot better with a microswitch. also, i'm still running version 3 software on my speed board and rather than getting it flashed, i wanted to just get a tadao board. considering that it was all the software for the different leagues plus more. i'm curious to see what this board can do besides providing league regulations.

[Arsenal7]

Kermit, I couldn't agree with you more. For its certainly true for one to desire that which one doesn't necessasrily need, but merely wants. However, its the god giving duty of every american to buy want we don't need. Especially true with us angel owners.

What I want in this board is simply Auto response (two shoots per trigger pull) and a uncapped full auto setting. Anyone here know if these modes will be included in the G7 Board?

[BlackZach76]

i just love tadao no bounces agg modes and the best eye logit come on tadao is the best ever

[Kermit Da Frog]

Preditor board may do it... I will let you lookinto that yourself. But keep an eye on tadao... It should prove to be a great product...

[skaterjunk]

ok so ive looked through these pages all 12 of em -_- and cannot find what im lookin for... can you gues what im lookin for? YOUR RONG its not teh relese date... how much is this bad boy gona cost? i wana know how much i need to put away for an 05 speed board

[Luzrd]

What I want in this board is simply Auto response (two shots per trigger pull) and a uncapped full auto setting. Anyone here know if these modes will be included in the G7 Board?

thats all that i would like to see outside of the various tournament modes required for all the different events.

i dont think that the modes have been posted yet (if they have, i havent seen it), however there is a thread here http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=45572 in which our oppinions were asked on what we would like to see for modes in this new MT tadao board.
so basically your guess is as good as ours at this point, wish i could help more.

skaterjunk as far as price goes, there isnt a definite price yet, but it should be around the same price as other tadao boards from what ive been told.

[skaterjunk]

tnx duff man or luzrd whatever you prefered to be called lol

[Luzrd]

ima change my name to "Duff LuzRD" now, not to be confused with "Duf leppard"

[KEN CRANE]

read thru here. i am sure you will find this interesting.....

[Luzrd]

i am drooling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "example setting profile 5" looks like ALOT of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! = }
i cant believe this isnt going to cost more

[skaterjunk]

Ken Ur My Hero!

[thatguy!]

Am I safe to assume the G7 board will be functionally identical to the A4 type boards?

[uniquenewyork15]

that was good to know, i also have no idea what im going to do with all those settings....

[Trigga Nometry]

read thru here. i am sure you will find this interesting.....OMFG this is gonna be awesome.

[October Fly]

What a beast...thanks Ken.

[paintreliever]

other than a break out mode (we are not offering this mode) what would you like to see for modes on a board.
that was the only reason why i didnt purchase this board;thats why i got the predator board...
good thing you guys kept that updated...:notsure: :stooges:

[uniquenewyork15]

look at the manual thing, there is a mode like the break out mode...

[KEN CRANE]

that was the only reason why i didnt purchase this board;thats why i got the predator board...
good thing you guys kept that updated...:notsure: :stooges:

a break out mode is an illegal hidden mode that flushes after a pre determined time. we will not be offering this.

[AngelSpeedbackman939]

that is a good call since it is illegal. It sounds like an awesome board and I will defianelty be getting one when the come out.

[Arsenal7]

read thru here. i am sure you will find this interesting.....


I've been unable to access the link ken provided. Can someone here please do me a huge favor and post the contents of that link. Or maybe IM me the contents of it. Thanks

[thatguy!]

I've been unable to access the link ken provided. Can someone here please do me a huge favor and post the contents of that link. Or maybe IM me the contents of it. Thanks

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Angel Force Tadao G7 Board Instructions
Features

• Fully functional in the WDP Angel G7
• Based on the Musashi 7 software
• Includes twelve (12) fire modes: uncapped semi-auto, capped semi-auto, PSP auto-response, PSP mild ramping, PSP max ramping, PSP z-burst, NXL full-automatic, auto-response, mild ramping, max ramping, z-burst, and full-automatic
• Asynchronously monitors the trigger switch using an interrupt based scan at 2 million times per second
• Gangster setting allows 3 different options for every fire mode, giving 36 different “breakout” style modes
• Adjustable ABS programming prevents first shot drop-off
• AMB (anti-mechanical bounce) and CPF (cycle percentage filter) algorithms help to eliminate mechanical bounce and switch bounce
• Power efficient software and hardware lengthens battery life
• Programming mode allows changes to debounce, dwell, loader delay, AMB, ABS dwell, fire mode, fire mode max rate of fire, eye mode, CPF, ramp start, gangster mode, and LED colors
• All settings are stored in non-volatile memory so they are not lost when battery is disconnected
• One-touch startup enables the marker to fire instantly
• Automatic 15-minute idle power down to safe mode saves batteries
• Three eye modes: delayed, forced with force shot, and test mode with rate of fire indicator
• Fully adjustable color schemes
• Low battery indicator hardware and software shows battery level each time the marker is turned on and during use at the push of a button

LED Indicator
The multi-color LED that shines out the left side of the grip panels shows which mode of operation the marker is currently in. The default color scheme is:

Rapid Blinking Red At start this indicates an exhausted battery
Rapid Blinking Yellow At start this indicates a low battery charge
Rapid Blinking Green At start this indicates a medium battery charge
Rapid Blinking Blue At start this indicates a high battery charge
Rapid Blinking Puprle At start this indicates a full battery charge
Solid Blue Ball in breech, ready to fire
Slow Blinking Blue No ball in breech
Slow Blinking Yellow Eye malfunction, max rate of fire reduced to 12.5 bps; clean eyes or make sure the gun is fired with paint and air
Slow Blinking Red Eyes disabled, rate of fire limited to 20 balls per second in
mode 1; otherwise capped at fire mode max rate of fire for
fire modes 2 – 12

Power Operation
The marker is turned on using the power toggle switch. The battery indicator will show the current power level of your battery with a flickering red, yellow, green, blue, or purple LED. After, it will show a solid or blinking blue LED (unless changed from the default). To turn off, flick the power switch to the off position. Every time the marker is turned on, the eyes are enabled. The marker can be turned off regardless of the state of the eyes. See “Battery Indicator” section for additional details.

To put the marker in safe mode, push and hold button 1. The LED will cycle through a red/green/blue sequence every second. While in safe mode the trigger input is disabled and the board is powered down. To exit safe mode, push and hold button 1 again and it will boot back into the firing mode after showing the battery level. If the marker is left sitting idle for 15 minutes it will automatically default to safe mode to conserve power.

To charge the battery use the existing charge port on the board (just like the stock G7 board). The power switch must be set to the “on” position. It is recommended that the board be put into safe mode by holding down button 1 for 1 second to prevent accidental discharge while the battery is being charged.

Eye Operation and Logic
The eyes are enabled when the marker is first turned on. The eyes can be toggled by using button 2. Press and hold button 2 for 1 second and the LED will change colors to indicate the mode change.

If used, the eye system cycles the marker as fast as possible. During each shot the eyes watch for the bolt to return, ending the current firing cycle and starting another as quickly as the pneumatics allow. If the eye system is continually blocked (e.g. putting your finger in front of the eyes) and is unable to see the bolt return after every shot, the max rate of fire will be reduced to about 12 balls per second to prevent further chopping, and the LED will blink the eye malfunction color (yellow by default). The only way to show the true speed of the G7 board is to fire the marker with paint and air. When the eyes are off, the rate of fire is limited to 20 balls per second unless in fire mode 2-12, in which case the rate of fire is selected by the user.

To determine if the eyes are working correctly, insert an object into the breech. Check to see if the LED changes from blinking blue to solid blue and then back to blinking blue (if using default colors) once the object is removed.

Battery Indicator
Battery indicator software and hardware are standard on the G7 board. When the marker is turned on, the LED will briefly flicker red, yellow, green, blue, or purple to indicate the status of your battery. If it flickers red, the battery is exhausted and should be charged as soon as possible. If it flickers yellow, the battery may last for another case of paint, but it is close to failing.

Programming
The tournament lock must be disabled in order to change settings on the board. The push button switch on the lower right side of the board toggles the tournament lock. While the marker is turned on and in the normal firing mode (eyes on or off) push and hold the lock button. The LED will flash a red/green sequence, ending with either red or green to indicate the status of the lock. Red means the lock is on, while green means the lock is off. While the lock and the marker are off, pull and hold the trigger, then flip the power switch. The marker will boot into programming mode, showing a rainbow sequence before stopping at solid green. Programming mode can be exited by turning the marker off.

Pulling and releasing the trigger quickly will toggle between the different programming modes:

Green Debounce
Purple Dwell
Yellow Loader delay
Blue AMB (anti-mechanical bounce)
Red ABS dwell
White Fire mode
Teal Fire mode max rate of fire
Flickering Green Eye mode
Flickering Purple CPF (cycle percentage filter)
Flickering Yellow Ramp start
Flickering Blue Gangster mode
Flickering Red Eye enabled color
Flickering White Eye disabled color
Flickering Teal Eye malfunction color
Flashing Blue/Red Intellifeed dwell

When the LED is lit for the desired setting, press and hold the trigger until the LED goes out. When you release the trigger, the LED will blink to show the current setting. For example, if the current setting for debounce is 5, the LED will blink green 5 times. Once the LED stops blinking, you have 2 seconds to begin entering the new setting. To enter the new setting, pull the trigger the desired number of times. For example, to set the debounce to 2, you must pull the trigger 2 times. Every time you pull the trigger the LED will light. After all settings have been changed, turn the marker off, using the power switch.

Programming Example

If you want to set the dwell to 12, you should:

1. Make sure the marker is powered off and the tournament lock is
disabled.
2. Pull the trigger and push the power button to turn on the marker.
3. The LED shows a rainbow sequence then stops on solid green. This is the debounce mode.
4. Quickly pull and release the trigger 1 time to switch to the dwell mode.
The LED will show purple.
5. Pull and HOLD the trigger until the LED turns off.
6. Release the trigger. The LED will blink out the current setting.
7. When the LED stops blinking, enter the new setting by pulling the trigger
12 times.
8. Wait until the LED turns back on, indicating programming has been completed.
9. Turn the marker off.

Program Reset
To reset all settings to factory defaults, hold down the lock button for 10 seconds while in programming mode. The LED will rapidly cycle through every setting color to indicate that the process has completed.

Settings
Debounce – The G7 board features an interrupt based debounce algorithm that effectively “scans” the trigger over 2 million times per second. It runs this completely independent of code execution on the microcontroller so your trigger pulls are always registered. The debounce setting is in increments of ½ milliseconds. Users should be aware that low debounce settings may cause the marker to read switch bounce as additional pulls, falsely generating shots or near full-automatic fire. The setting ranges from 1 to 50 and is defaulted at 10 (5 ms).

Dwell – The amount of time the solenoid is energized each time the marker is fired. The default is 11 ms. The range is 5 to 25 ms. Too low of a dwell may lead to inconsistency or drop-off. Too high of a dwell can cause bad air efficiency.

Loader delay – Adds a slight delay after the eye has seen a ball and the bolt is cycled, causing the gun to fire. If not using force fed loaders, it may be necessary to increase this setting to prevent chopping. A setting of 1 means no loader delay, which is the fastest. The default is 2 and may be set from 1 to 25.

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AMB (Anti-mechanical bounce) – Allows the user to adjust the anti-mechanical bounce feature. Mechanical bounce occurs due to the kick generated during each shot and can cause the marker to “run away” on the first few shots. AMB helps stop markers from going full-auto when the trigger is pulled very slowly. The default is 2 and may be set from 1 to 5 (1 being off). AMB is only used in fire modes 1 and 2 (semi-automatic unlimited and adjustable).

ABS dwell – Amount of dwell time added for an ABS (anti-bolt stick) shot. The range is from 1 to 15 additional milliseconds of dwell. The default is 1, which is off. ABS programming helps to eliminate first shot drop-off. First shot drop-off occurs when the lube and o-rings settle or “stick” inside the marker after it has been sitting. The next shot fired will be lower in velocity because the bolt has to break free. ABS will slightly increase the dwell to compensate if the marker is left sitting for 15 seconds.

Fire mode – Included are twelve (12) different fire modes (default is 1):

1. Semi-automatic, unlimited rate of fire
2. Semi-automatic, adjustable rate of fire
3. PSP auto-response
4. PSP mild ramping, adjustable ramp start
5. PSP max ramping, adjustable ramp start
6. PSP Z-burst
7. NXL full-automatic
8. Auto-response
9. Mild ramping
10. Max ramping
11. Z-burst
12. Full-automatic

Setting 1 is normal semi-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire while the eyes are enabled. When the eyes are turned off, the max rate of fire is set to 20 balls per second.

Setting 2 is semi-automatic with an adjustable rate of fire. It limits the maximum balls per second that can be fired. The cap is set by the max rate of fire setting.


Setting 3 is the PSP auto-response fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will fire on the pull and release in auto-response mode
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 4 is the PSP mild ramping fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will ramp based on the speed of the trigger pulls as long as the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting.
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 5 is the PSP max ramping fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will ramp up to the loader’s maximum speed or the maximum rate of fire as long as the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting.
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 6 is the PSP Z-burst fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will burst fire from 2-3 shots per pull depending on how quickly the trigger is pulled and released
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 7 is the NXL full-automatic fire mode. It functions similarly to the PSP fire modes except, after the 3rd semi-automatic shot, the user may pull and hold the trigger for the marker to fire in full-automatic.

Setting 8 is the normal auto-response fire mode. The marker will fire on each pull and release of the trigger, generating two shots per full pull cycle.

Setting 9 is the normal mild ramping fire mode. The marker will fire in semi-automatic unless the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting. Once the ramp start setting has been achieved the marker will mildly ramp, generating additional shots depending on how fast the user pulls the trigger.

Setting 10 is the normal max ramping fire mode. The marker will fire in semi-automatic unless the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting. Once the ramp start setting has been achieved the marker will ramp up to the maximum feed rate of the loader or the maximum rate of fire setting, whichever is lower.

Setting 11 is the normal Z-burst fire mode. The marker will burst fire 2 times or more for every pull and release of the trigger, depending on how fast the user pulls the trigger.

Setting 12 is the normal full-automatic fire mode. As long as the trigger is depressed the marker will fire in full-automatic.

Fire mode max rate of fire – The max rate of fire setting applies to the 2nd -12th fire modes. The max rate of fire is adjustable from 14 to 20 balls per second in ¼ balls per second increments, and has an unlimited setting for maxing out the loader system. The default is 4, which is roughly 14.75 balls per second. Oscillator inconsistencies from chip to chip make it impossible to time perfectly, so the only true way to check rate of fire is to use a Pact Timer or ballistic chronograph. The red radar chronographs commonly found at fields are NOT reliable.

Setting BPS Setting BPS Setting BPS
1 14.0 9 16.0 17 18.0
2 14.25 10 16.25 18 18.25
3 14.5 11 16.5 19 18.5
4 14.75 12 16.75 20 18.75
5 15.0 13 17.0 21 19.0
6 15.25 14 17.25 22 19.25
7 15.5 15 17.5 23 19.5
8 15.75 16 17.75 24 19.75
25 20.0
26 Unlimited eyes on
20 bps eyes off
Eye Mode – Three eye modes are available:
1. Delayed – If the eye system does not detect a ball in the breech for ½ second, the marker automatically fires. This is useful for sound activated loaders because it ensures that a shot is fired, even without paint, so the loader will continue to feed.
2. Forced with force shot – The marker only fires if paint is seen in the breech or the user pulls and holds the trigger for ½ second, thereby initiating a force shot. This is the default and the same as the stock DM4, DM5, or DMC software’s eye mode.
3. Test – This mode is specifically for seeing how fast the user can fire the marker, or how fast the pneumatics can actually cycle. The eyes work to prevent firing if they are blocked. This mode is only for dry firing. The LED is used to show the fastest achieved rate of fire:
Red less than 10 bps
Yellow between 10 and 15 bps
Green between 15 and 20 bps
Blue between 20 and 25 bps
White 25 bps or greater
As long as the user continues to fire, the fastest achieved rate of fire will continue to be displayed on the LED. If the user stops firing for 1 second, the LED will cycle back through the rate of fire colors.

Note: The test eye mode works with any fire mode selected. The fire mode max rate of fire is set to unlimited while in test eye mode.

CPF (Cycle percentage filter) – The cycle percentage filter allows adjustment of the point within the current firing cycle that a new buffered shot is allowed. Almost all electronic paintball markers allow a single shot to be buffered in the event the user is fast enough to release the trigger and pull again during the current firing cycle. The CPF setting is adjustable from 1 to 10. Setting 1 turns the CPF off, allowing buffered shots at any point in the firing cycle. Setting 2 through 10 sets the percentage of the firing cycle that must pass before shots may be buffered:

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1. CPF turned off
2. 10% of the firing cycle must pass before a buffered shot is allowed
3. 20%
4. 30%
5. 40%
6. 50%
7. 60%
8. 70%
9. 80%
10. 90%

A higher CPF setting results in less unintentional bounce. For instance, it is possible that if your debounce setting is border line, you can fire the marker a few times, then hold it loosely and allow it to brush against your finger, going full-automatic. Since most switch bounce from either a low debounce setting or mechanical bounce occurs almost immediately after the trigger is released, CPF can be very effective in eliminating falsely generated trigger activity.

Ramp start – This setting is only used for the four ramping fire modes (PSP mild and max ramping, and normal mild and max ramping). It sets the minimum pulls per second that must be maintained for the software to add shots or ramp up to the maximum rate of fire setting. The default is 5 and is adjustable from 4 to 14 pulls per second.

Gangster mode – The G7 board includes a special mode that can be applied three different ways to each of the 12 fire modes, giving 36 “breakout” style combinations. Gangster mode gives the user full-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire for a single pull, for use at the start of the game. The setting is defaulted at 4, which turns gangster mode off. A setting of 1-3 dictates at which pull that gangster mode will become active. If set to 1, the first shot after you turn on the marker will be full-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire for as long as you hold down the trigger. As soon as you release the trigger, the marker will stop shooting and default back to your selected fire mode. If set to 3, the gangster mode will be active on the third shot after the marker is turned on. Regardless of the fire mode selected, the shots before the gangster mode will be semi-automatic. Gangster mode can only be used once for each time the marker is turned on.

Note: The gangster mode is illegal for use in all tournament series. Tadao Technologies LLC takes no responsibility for the user’s choice in using the gangster mode.

Color scheme settings – The LED color scheme is fully adjustable. The following three settings are adjustable from 1 to 7 for these colors:
1 Green
2 Purple
3 Yellow
4 Blue
5 Red
6 White
7 Teal
Eyes enabled color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED while the eye system is enabled. The default is blue (4).
Eyes disabled color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED while the eye system is disabled. The default is red (5).
Eye malfunction color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED when the eye system detects a malfunction. The default is yellow (3).

Additional Features
Force Shot – In the event the eyes are enabled, the breech is empty, and the user wants to fire a clearing shot, a force shot can be initiated by pulling and holding the trigger for ½ second. This is useful with force fed loaders that sometimes push a ball slightly into the detents where the eyes are unable to see it. After force firing, the next ball will load, and operation will continue as normal.

A tip for setting the debounce, AMB, and CPF – This only applies to semi-automatic fire modes (modes 1 and 2) since AMB is disabled in the PSP fire modes or NXL mode.

Debounce, AMB, CPF setup steps, while using paint and air:
1. Turn AMB and CPF off (set both to 1).
2. Starting at debounce 1-3, raise the debounce setting a notch at a time until excessive trigger bounce goes away. The goal is to have one pull, one shot, regardless of rate of fire. Do NOT slow pull test for bounce during this phase. Instead, pull the trigger rapidly or walk it, listening for double or triple fires.
3. When it appears that it is only one shot, one pull for solid trigger pulls, try the slow pull test. Holding the marker steady, slowly pull the trigger and see if multiple shots can be generated from the single pull.
4. Increase the CPF setting a notch at a time until the slow pull bounce starts to disappear. An additional test is to fire a few rounds quickly, then hold the trigger right on the activation point to see if the marker will run away.
5. If you reach setting 10 with CPF and the marker can still be slow pulled to fire full-automatic, your debounce setting is probably too low. Go back to step 2.
6. AMB should not be set above 3, if possible, since it is not as transparent to the user as CPF. Even a CPF setting of 10 will not be noticed by the user.

Example Setting Profiles:
1. Tournament legal semi-automatic (NPPL)
a. Fire mode 1 or 2 (semi-auto unlimited or capped)
b. Debounce 5-20
c. AMB 2
d. CPF 2-5
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
2. PSP X-Ball, CFOA
a. Fire mode 3, 4, 5, or 6
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Ramp start 5 or higher if using PSP mild/max ramping
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
3. Millennium
a. Fire mode 4 or 5 (PSP mild or max ramping)
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Ramp start 8 or higher
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
4. NXL
a. Fire mode 7 (NXL full-automatic).
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
5. Ludicrous Speed (absolute fastest/bounciest)
a. Any fire mode
b. Max rate of fire set to 26 (unlimited)
c. Debounce 1
d. AMB 1 if using semi-automatic
e. CPF 1
f. Ramp start 4 if using any ramping modes
g. Loader delay

Additional Information
www.tadaotechnologies.com

Angel Force Tadao G7 Board Instructions
Features
• Fully functional in the WDP Angel G7
• Based on the Musashi 7 software
• Includes twelve (12) fire modes: uncapped semi-auto, capped semi-auto, PSP auto-response, PSP mild ramping, PSP max ramping, PSP z-burst, NXL full-automatic, auto-response, mild ramping, max ramping, z-burst, and full-automatic
• Asynchronously monitors the trigger switch using an interrupt based scan at 2 million times per second
• Gangster setting allows 3 different options for every fire mode, giving 36 different “breakout” style modes
• Adjustable ABS programming prevents first shot drop-off
• AMB (anti-mechanical bounce) and CPF (cycle percentage filter) algorithms help to eliminate mechanical bounce and switch bounce
• Power efficient software and hardware lengthens battery life
• Programming mode allows changes to debounce, dwell, loader delay, AMB, ABS dwell, fire mode, fire mode max rate of fire, eye mode, CPF, ramp start, gangster mode, and LED colors
• All settings are stored in non-volatile memory so they are not lost when battery is disconnected
• One-touch startup enables the marker to fire instantly
• Automatic 15-minute idle power down to safe mode saves batteries
• Three eye modes: delayed, forced with force shot, and test mode with rate of fire indicator
• Fully adjustable color schemes
• Low battery indicator hardware and software shows battery level each time the marker is turned on and during use at the push of a button

LED Indicator
The multi-color LED that shines out the left side of the grip panels shows which mode of operation the marker is currently in. The default color scheme is:

Rapid Blinking Red At start this indicates an exhausted battery
Rapid Blinking Yellow At start this indicates a low battery charge
Rapid Blinking Green At start this indicates a medium battery charge
Rapid Blinking Blue At start this indicates a high battery charge
Rapid Blinking Puprle At start this indicates a full battery charge
Solid Blue Ball in breech, ready to fire
Slow Blinking Blue No ball in breech
Slow Blinking Yellow Eye malfunction, max rate of fire reduced to 12.5 bps; clean eyes or make sure the gun is fired with paint and air
Slow Blinking Red Eyes disabled, rate of fire limited to 20 balls per second in
mode 1; otherwise capped at fire mode max rate of fire for
fire modes 2 – 12

Power Operation
The marker is turned on using the power toggle switch. The battery indicator will show the current power level of your battery with a flickering red, yellow, green, blue, or purple LED. After, it will show a solid or blinking blue LED (unless changed from the default). To turn off, flick the power switch to the off position. Every time the marker is turned on, the eyes are enabled. The marker can be turned off regardless of the state of the eyes. See “Battery Indicator” section for additional details.

To put the marker in safe mode, push and hold button 1. The LED will cycle through a red/green/blue sequence every second. While in safe mode the trigger input is disabled and the board is powered down. To exit safe mode, push and hold button 1 again and it will boot back into the firing mode after showing the battery level. If the marker is left sitting idle for 15 minutes it will automatically default to safe mode to conserve power.

To charge the battery use the existing charge port on the board (just like the stock G7 board). The power switch must be set to the “on” position. It is recommended that the board be put into safe mode by holding down button 1 for 1 second to prevent accidental discharge while the battery is being charged.

Eye Operation and Logic
The eyes are enabled when the marker is first turned on. The eyes can be toggled by using button 2. Press and hold button 2 for 1 second and the LED will change colors to indicate the mode change.

If used, the eye system cycles the marker as fast as possible. During each shot the eyes watch for the bolt to return, ending the current firing cycle and starting another as quickly as the pneumatics allow. If the eye system is continually blocked (e.g. putting your finger in front of the eyes) and is unable to see the bolt return after every shot, the max rate of fire will be reduced to about 12 balls per second to prevent further chopping, and the LED will blink the eye malfunction color (yellow by default). The only way to show the true speed of the G7 board is to fire the marker with paint and air. When the eyes are off, the rate of fire is limited to 20 balls per second unless in fire mode 2-12, in which case the rate of fire is selected by the user.

To determine if the eyes are working correctly, insert an object into the breech. Check to see if the LED changes from blinking blue to solid blue and then back to blinking blue (if using default colors) once the object is removed.

Battery Indicator
Battery indicator software and hardware are standard on the G7 board. When the marker is turned on, the LED will briefly flicker red, yellow, green, blue, or purple to indicate the status of your battery. If it flickers red, the battery is exhausted and should be charged as soon as possible. If it flickers yellow, the battery may last for another case of paint, but it is close to failing.

Programming
The tournament lock must be disabled in order to change settings on the board. The push button switch on the lower right side of the board toggles the tournament lock. While the marker is turned on and in the normal firing mode (eyes on or off) push and hold the lock button. The LED will flash a red/green sequence, ending with either red or green to indicate the status of the lock. Red means the lock is on, while green means the lock is off. While the lock and the marker are off, pull and hold the trigger, then flip the power switch. The marker will boot into programming mode, showing a rainbow sequence before stopping at solid green. Programming mode can be exited by turning the marker off.

Pulling and releasing the trigger quickly will toggle between the different programming modes:

Green Debounce
Purple Dwell
Yellow Loader delay
Blue AMB (anti-mechanical bounce)
Red ABS dwell
White Fire mode
Teal Fire mode max rate of fire
Flickering Green Eye mode
Flickering Purple CPF (cycle percentage filter)
Flickering Yellow Ramp start
Flickering Blue Gangster mode
Flickering Red Eye enabled color
Flickering White Eye disabled color
Flickering Teal Eye malfunction color
Flashing Blue/Red Intellifeed dwell

When the LED is lit for the desired setting, press and hold the trigger until the LED goes out. When you release the trigger, the LED will blink to show the current setting. For example, if the current setting for debounce is 5, the LED will blink green 5 times. Once the LED stops blinking, you have 2 seconds to begin entering the new setting. To enter the new setting, pull the trigger the desired number of times. For example, to set the debounce to 2, you must pull the trigger 2 times. Every time you pull the trigger the LED will light. After all settings have been changed, turn the marker off, using the power switch.

Programming Example

If you want to set the dwell to 12, you should:

1. Make sure the marker is powered off and the tournament lock is
disabled.
2. Pull the trigger and push the power button to turn on the marker.
3. The LED shows a rainbow sequence then stops on solid green. This is the debounce mode.
4. Quickly pull and release the trigger 1 time to switch to the dwell mode.
The LED will show purple.
5. Pull and HOLD the trigger until the LED turns off.
6. Release the trigger. The LED will blink out the current setting.
7. When the LED stops blinking, enter the new setting by pulling the trigger
12 times.
8. Wait until the LED turns back on, indicating programming has been completed.
9. Turn the marker off.

Program Reset
To reset all settings to factory defaults, hold down the lock button for 10 seconds while in programming mode. The LED will rapidly cycle through every setting color to indicate that the process has completed.

Settings
Debounce – The G7 board features an interrupt based debounce algorithm that effectively “scans” the trigger over 2 million times per second. It runs this completely independent of code execution on the microcontroller so your trigger pulls are always registered. The debounce setting is in increments of ½ milliseconds. Users should be aware that low debounce settings may cause the marker to read switch bounce as additional pulls, falsely generating shots or near full-automatic fire. The setting ranges from 1 to 50 and is defaulted at 10 (5 ms).

Dwell – The amount of time the solenoid is energized each time the marker is fired. The default is 11 ms. The range is 5 to 25 ms. Too low of a dwell may lead to inconsistency or drop-off. Too high of a dwell can cause bad air efficiency.

Loader delay – Adds a slight delay after the eye has seen a ball and the bolt is cycled, causing the gun to fire. If not using force fed loaders, it may be necessary to increase this setting to prevent chopping. A setting of 1 means no loader delay, which is the fastest. The default is 2 and may be set from 1 to 25.


AMB (Anti-mechanical bounce) – Allows the user to adjust the anti-mechanical bounce feature. Mechanical bounce occurs due to the kick generated during each shot and can cause the marker to “run away” on the first few shots. AMB helps stop markers from going full-auto when the trigger is pulled very slowly. The default is 2 and may be set from 1 to 5 (1 being off). AMB is only used in fire modes 1 and 2 (semi-automatic unlimited and adjustable).

ABS dwell – Amount of dwell time added for an ABS (anti-bolt stick) shot. The range is from 1 to 15 additional milliseconds of dwell. The default is 1, which is off. ABS programming helps to eliminate first shot drop-off. First shot drop-off occurs when the lube and o-rings settle or “stick” inside the marker after it has been sitting. The next shot fired will be lower in velocity because the bolt has to break free. ABS will slightly increase the dwell to compensate if the marker is left sitting for 15 seconds.

Fire mode – Included are twelve (12) different fire modes (default is 1):

1. Semi-automatic, unlimited rate of fire
2. Semi-automatic, adjustable rate of fire
3. PSP auto-response
4. PSP mild ramping, adjustable ramp start
5. PSP max ramping, adjustable ramp start
6. PSP Z-burst
7. NXL full-automatic
8. Auto-response
9. Mild ramping
10. Max ramping
11. Z-burst
12. Full-automatic

Setting 1 is normal semi-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire while the eyes are enabled. When the eyes are turned off, the max rate of fire is set to 20 balls per second.

Setting 2 is semi-automatic with an adjustable rate of fire. It limits the maximum balls per second that can be fired. The cap is set by the max rate of fire setting.


Setting 3 is the PSP auto-response fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will fire on the pull and release in auto-response mode
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 4 is the PSP mild ramping fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will ramp based on the speed of the trigger pulls as long as the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting.
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 5 is the PSP max ramping fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will ramp up to the loader’s maximum speed or the maximum rate of fire as long as the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting.
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 6 is the PSP Z-burst fire mode that works as follows:

• The first 3 shots of a string are semi-automatic
• After the 4th shot the marker will burst fire from 2-3 shots per pull depending on how quickly the trigger is pulled and released
• If the user stops firing for more than 1 second, the 3-shot semi-automatic count starts over

Setting 7 is the NXL full-automatic fire mode. It functions similarly to the PSP fire modes except, after the 3rd semi-automatic shot, the user may pull and hold the trigger for the marker to fire in full-automatic.

Setting 8 is the normal auto-response fire mode. The marker will fire on each pull and release of the trigger, generating two shots per full pull cycle.

Setting 9 is the normal mild ramping fire mode. The marker will fire in semi-automatic unless the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting. Once the ramp start setting has been achieved the marker will mildly ramp, generating additional shots depending on how fast the user pulls the trigger.

Setting 10 is the normal max ramping fire mode. The marker will fire in semi-automatic unless the user pulls the trigger faster than the ramp start setting. Once the ramp start setting has been achieved the marker will ramp up to the maximum feed rate of the loader or the maximum rate of fire setting, whichever is lower.

Setting 11 is the normal Z-burst fire mode. The marker will burst fire 2 times or more for every pull and release of the trigger, depending on how fast the user pulls the trigger.

Setting 12 is the normal full-automatic fire mode. As long as the trigger is depressed the marker will fire in full-automatic.

Fire mode max rate of fire – The max rate of fire setting applies to the 2nd -12th fire modes. The max rate of fire is adjustable from 14 to 20 balls per second in ¼ balls per second increments, and has an unlimited setting for maxing out the loader system. The default is 4, which is roughly 14.75 balls per second. Oscillator inconsistencies from chip to chip make it impossible to time perfectly, so the only true way to check rate of fire is to use a Pact Timer or ballistic chronograph. The red radar chronographs commonly found at fields are NOT reliable.

Setting BPS Setting BPS Setting BPS
1 14.0 9 16.0 17 18.0
2 14.25 10 16.25 18 18.25
3 14.5 11 16.5 19 18.5
4 14.75 12 16.75 20 18.75
5 15.0 13 17.0 21 19.0
6 15.25 14 17.25 22 19.25
7 15.5 15 17.5 23 19.5
8 15.75 16 17.75 24 19.75
25 20.0
26 Unlimited eyes on
20 bps eyes off
Eye Mode – Three eye modes are available:
1. Delayed – If the eye system does not detect a ball in the breech for ½ second, the marker automatically fires. This is useful for sound activated loaders because it ensures that a shot is fired, even without paint, so the loader will continue to feed.
2. Forced with force shot – The marker only fires if paint is seen in the breech or the user pulls and holds the trigger for ½ second, thereby initiating a force shot. This is the default and the same as the stock DM4, DM5, or DMC software’s eye mode.
3. Test – This mode is specifically for seeing how fast the user can fire the marker, or how fast the pneumatics can actually cycle. The eyes work to prevent firing if they are blocked. This mode is only for dry firing. The LED is used to show the fastest achieved rate of fire:
Red less than 10 bps
Yellow between 10 and 15 bps
Green between 15 and 20 bps
Blue between 20 and 25 bps
White 25 bps or greater
As long as the user continues to fire, the fastest achieved rate of fire will continue to be displayed on the LED. If the user stops firing for 1 second, the LED will cycle back through the rate of fire colors.

Note: The test eye mode works with any fire mode selected. The fire mode max rate of fire is set to unlimited while in test eye mode.

CPF (Cycle percentage filter) – The cycle percentage filter allows adjustment of the point within the current firing cycle that a new buffered shot is allowed. Almost all electronic paintball markers allow a single shot to be buffered in the event the user is fast enough to release the trigger and pull again during the current firing cycle. The CPF setting is adjustable from 1 to 10. Setting 1 turns the CPF off, allowing buffered shots at any point in the firing cycle. Setting 2 through 10 sets the percentage of the firing cycle that must pass before shots may be buffered:

1. CPF turned off
2. 10% of the firing cycle must pass before a buffered shot is allowed
3. 20%
4. 30%
5. 40%
6. 50%
7. 60%
8. 70%
9. 80%
10. 90%

A higher CPF setting results in less unintentional bounce. For instance, it is possible that if your debounce setting is border line, you can fire the marker a few times, then hold it loosely and allow it to brush against your finger, going full-automatic. Since most switch bounce from either a low debounce setting or mechanical bounce occurs almost immediately after the trigger is released, CPF can be very effective in eliminating falsely generated trigger activity.

Ramp start – This setting is only used for the four ramping fire modes (PSP mild and max ramping, and normal mild and max ramping). It sets the minimum pulls per second that must be maintained for the software to add shots or ramp up to the maximum rate of fire setting. The default is 5 and is adjustable from 4 to 14 pulls per second.

Gangster mode – The G7 board includes a special mode that can be applied three different ways to each of the 12 fire modes, giving 36 “breakout” style combinations. Gangster mode gives the user full-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire for a single pull, for use at the start of the game. The setting is defaulted at 4, which turns gangster mode off. A setting of 1-3 dictates at which pull that gangster mode will become active. If set to 1, the first shot after you turn on the marker will be full-automatic with an unlimited rate of fire for as long as you hold down the trigger. As soon as you release the trigger, the marker will stop shooting and default back to your selected fire mode. If set to 3, the gangster mode will be active on the third shot after the marker is turned on. Regardless of the fire mode selected, the shots before the gangster mode will be semi-automatic. Gangster mode can only be used once for each time the marker is turned on.

Note: The gangster mode is illegal for use in all tournament series. Tadao Technologies LLC takes no responsibility for the user’s choice in using the gangster mode.

Color scheme settings – The LED color scheme is fully adjustable. The following three settings are adjustable from 1 to 7 for these colors:
1 Green
2 Purple
3 Yellow
4 Blue
5 Red
6 White
7 Teal
Eyes enabled color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED while the eye system is enabled. The default is blue (4).
Eyes disabled color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED while the eye system is disabled. The default is red (5).
Eye malfunction color – This setting allows the user to change the color of the LED when the eye system detects a malfunction. The default is yellow (3).

Additional Features
Force Shot – In the event the eyes are enabled, the breech is empty, and the user wants to fire a clearing shot, a force shot can be initiated by pulling and holding the trigger for ½ second. This is useful with force fed loaders that sometimes push a ball slightly into the detents where the eyes are unable to see it. After force firing, the next ball will load, and operation will continue as normal.

A tip for setting the debounce, AMB, and CPF – This only applies to semi-automatic fire modes (modes 1 and 2) since AMB is disabled in the PSP fire modes or NXL mode.

Debounce, AMB, CPF setup steps, while using paint and air:
1. Turn AMB and CPF off (set both to 1).
2. Starting at debounce 1-3, raise the debounce setting a notch at a time until excessive trigger bounce goes away. The goal is to have one pull, one shot, regardless of rate of fire. Do NOT slow pull test for bounce during this phase. Instead, pull the trigger rapidly or walk it, listening for double or triple fires.
3. When it appears that it is only one shot, one pull for solid trigger pulls, try the slow pull test. Holding the marker steady, slowly pull the trigger and see if multiple shots can be generated from the single pull.
4. Increase the CPF setting a notch at a time until the slow pull bounce starts to disappear. An additional test is to fire a few rounds quickly, then hold the trigger right on the activation point to see if the marker will run away.
5. If you reach setting 10 with CPF and the marker can still be slow pulled to fire full-automatic, your debounce setting is probably too low. Go back to step 2.
6. AMB should not be set above 3, if possible, since it is not as transparent to the user as CPF. Even a CPF setting of 10 will not be noticed by the user.

Example Setting Profiles:
1. Tournament legal semi-automatic (NPPL)
a. Fire mode 1 or 2 (semi-auto unlimited or capped)
b. Debounce 5-20
c. AMB 2
d. CPF 2-5
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
2. PSP X-Ball, CFOA
a. Fire mode 3, 4, 5, or 6
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Ramp start 5 or higher if using PSP mild/max ramping
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
3. Millennium
a. Fire mode 4 or 5 (PSP mild or max ramping)
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Ramp start 8 or higher
e. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
4. NXL
a. Fire mode 7 (NXL full-automatic).
b. Max rate of fire set to 3-5, depending on Pact Timer readings. To be safe use setting 3 (14.5 balls per second).
c. Debounce 5-20
d. Loader delay set to match your loader (1-4 for Halo, 4-10 for gravity feed)
5. Ludicrous Speed (absolute fastest/bounciest)
a. Any fire mode
b. Max rate of fire set to 26 (unlimited)
c. Debounce 1
d. AMB 1 if using semi-automatic
e. CPF 1
f. Ramp start 4 if using any ramping modes
g. Loader delay

Additional Information
www.tadaotechnologies.com

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Edit- Yessir, Ken!

:cheers:

[Arsenal7]

Yahoooooooo Thanks. Does anyone know if the led will replace the lcd's location on the left side grip? Or will some type of replacement grip made available?

[uniquenewyork15]

so the lcd will be gone...?

[WDP ir3 2k3]

so the lcd will be gone...?


yes the bord will be LED

[uniquenewyork15]

so when you get the tadao, the lcd will be changed to led

[NATEDOGG]

So gangster modes will NOT be on the board?????

[Arsenal7]

So gangster modes will NOT be on the board?????


Gangsta modes will be included according to the boards manual, that was posted above.

[Arsenal7]

Will this board fit in a 45 degree frame?

[Sparco]

Absolutely.

[Devs]

From the looks of the pic in sparco's sig, it runs off of the battery of the gun. What about us 9v users (05/06 speed) is there going to be a second version of the board?

[Sparco]

There are two boards (as mentioned before and as seen before in pictures, in the '05 Speed forum). One for A4/G7 users, one for 05/06 users.

[LiterLeaner]

I can't take it anymore.....who do I shoot? I need one :blasting:

[napnap]

There's nothing in the manual about intellefeed. Is this still going to be an option?

[KEN CRANE]

yes for the intelifeed heres a sneak peek

[golobulus]

looks awesome, couple of questions:

is there only 1 board for the 45 or 90 frame? does that effect the way that the trigger contacts the switch at all?

what weight is the switch?

thanks, can't wait!!

[BlackZach76]

so it that just one for the g7 or is there 2 types of bords

[leperchaun]

hey if you would have read the rest of the thread before asking stupid questions.

There are two boards (as mentioned before and as seen before in pictures, in the '05 Speed forum). One for A4/G7 users, one for 05/06 users.

[ralfelor]

Mista Crane,

How are pre-orders lookin'.....I have an itchy credit card fin