Going Back to Steel Braided

[C]-[iLDe]

A couple weeks ago at a tournament, I had my tank reg fail and send 1200psi into my 2ndary reg (a stock angel minireg). On 3 separate occasions my macroline blew, although that probably saved my 14-way. Still, im tired of replacing macro line and I don't want to deal with blown hoses ever again, so im going back to using steel-braided hose.

My question is this: If, under the same circumstances, I had been using steel braided instead of macro, the hose would not have blown, correct? If the steel-braided had not blown, would the minireg have still saved my 14-way?

I ask because its obvious that a blown hose is preferrable to a blown solenoid; is steel braided perhaps TOO sturdy? I'd like to hear other user's experience/ opinions on this issue.

[Emmit]

You should probably check the rating on the hose that you're going to be using. I can't remember exactly what the steel braided hose is rated for.

[C.Carles-AOG]

My friend, a shop owner, has had the reg fail to regulate the air. The good news is that it vented, didn't ruin the solenoid. Nonetheless it's something I would not do. I like steel lines for my cocker (and I still don't do it) but the convenience of macroline is too appealing to me. I know the likelihood of a tank reg failure is low enough for me to like the macroline as my preferred equipment choice.
To answer your other query with a hard fact: (if not mistaken) 3000 psi is the rating for most steel lines.

Hope this helps.

[Jonny]

I was told aswell 3000psi was the average rateing for steel braded. A good macro line set up is 1300-1500psi.

I'm keeping my line. I'd rather get a 5$ hose then try to fix a blown LPR or solenoid.

The mini-reg is supposed to stop it but I don't know if it can. If it start creeping aswell your also going to be shooting really hot.

[2theMaxx21]

yeah, be careful. I think that the Minireg can safely regulate up to only 1100-1200 PSI.

[2theMaxx21]

But I will admit that I've had problems with my macro. Last week, when I was getting the tank filled, the collet inside the macro output fitting blew out and let all the pressure out. It was weird. The collet flew out and was traveling so fast that it hit the ceiling and put a hole in it. I was glad that nobody got hit with it. It could have really hurt somebody. It was the fitting that came with my Angel. I changed the fitting to a better quality one. Everything worked fine when I put the new fitting on.

The tank was a new style MaxFlo. I had it regulated to 600 PSI. I don't know what happened. Did the reg temporarily put out too much pressure, or did I have a defective fitting?

[Eyecare]

I vote for the fitting. The MaxFlo vents overpressure out the front of the reg. :cool:

[03Mach1]

Angel did have a few problems with the Macro Line fittings blowing instead of the Line.....
Now most will say it never happens... must be a problem with your output... It's not, most of the 2002 milling early editions had these bad macro line fittings... But when I spoke to the angel guys in Toulouse, France... They said problem solved...
But watch out for some of the late 2001 to 2002 models... AIR and Angels...

Now as far as it runing anything pushing the 1300 to 1500 mark... hell yes it might ruin something but the most important thing that most people overlook is the RAM... simplying mis adjusting your LPR to say, 120 psi is ok for the LPR it can just be set back to 95-98... but after firing it at 110-120 or higher will ruin your RAM... can you say toast... No more consistancy... after a blow like yours but it seems like everything else is working fine replace the ram and I bet you will solve the problem...
I found out the hard way after the main seal in my A.I.R. went bad...
Ryan

[karrkrash01]

try replacing your fittings and also the maxflow was not designed to be flash filled like on bauer compressor system. if it id filled to fast sometimes it causes the pressure to spike and blw ur macro . this same probl has been happening with angel airs now. tell the fill guy to slow down on flling ur tank to nd see iftht helps

[djmjohan]

Originally posted by C]-[iLDe
A couple weeks ago at a tournament, I had my tank reg fail and send 1200psi into my 2ndary reg (a stock angel minireg). On 3 separate occasions my macroline blew, although that probably saved my 14-way. Still, im tired of replacing macro line and I don't want to deal with blown hoses ever again, so im going back to using steel-braided hose.

My question is this: If, under the same circumstances, I had been using steel braided instead of macro, the hose would not have blown, correct? If the steel-braided had not blown, would the minireg have still saved my 14-way?

I ask because its obvious that a blown hose is preferrable to a blown solenoid; is steel braided perhaps TOO sturdy? I'd like to hear other user's experience/ opinions on this issue.

Hey childe, I think your my doppleganger cause I had the EXACT same thing happen to me at a tourney recently.
1st blow out: my air fitting into my mini reg blew out
2nd blow out: my macroline blew
3rd blow out: my macroline blew

NO venting from my AIR. I thought my macroline was weakened or damaged somehow.
after the 3rd blowout, I put a real long piece of macroline so it would be a real gentle bend. I thought I was putting too much curve on the line and stressing it out leading to a weak point.

After the third time, my AIR vented, and I realised I was having the flash fill problem.

I toyed with the idea of using steel braid. I didn't. why?
The real problem is not the macroline. The problem is the reg on my AIR failed, sending 1200 psi into the line.

1200 psi would've ruined my solenoid, but as it is now, all I did was get a bunch of dirty/scared looks from all the other players. The same kind of look if I started playing with a vial marked "anthrax"...

Going steel would just mask the true problem, and potentially open you up to greater damage.

Stick with macroline. (ps I went to a screw-in cause my AIR failed again after a tech replaced all the seals)

[Puma]

I use steel braided hose WITH black heat-shrink-tubing around it.

[C]-[iLDe]

Ive been using the steel braided from about 2 weeks now with no problems. Im a lot happier with it.