Xbox 360 vs. PS3

[Presto333]

Dunno if this has been ppsted yet, but here it compares the realeased specs of the ps3 vs. the released specs of the xbox 360. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

Basically wut it says is the xbox 360 owns it in most of the categories. The only one where the PS3 competes is the CPU (Processor). On paper the ps3 is better because of the Cell Processor. But ps3 made a mistake with this because it delivers a different kind of "power". Meaning the ps3's processor isn't rly for gaming, whereas the xbox 360's is perfect for wut game designers want. So unless ps3 or even Nintendo Revolution pulls sumtin they've been hiding out from their sleeve. Then the xbox 360 will reign supreme.

Also if any of you r as excited about Perfect Dark Zero as i am (geek moment :nerd: ) then i recommend picking up the new Electronic Gaming Monthly, it's got a bunch of news on it and a little bit on some other games...

[Klassy Guy]

There is already kind of a thread on this, it is in the chat section and titled ps3. I am a fan of ps3 because of Jak, Ratchet and Clank, and Sly Cooper. The only thing in my mind that is keeping xbox afloat is halo. I agree perfect dark zero looks amazing, but in my mind the ps3 will outshine xbox in quality of gameplay, not the beauty of gameplay. In the screenshots I think ps3 (final fantasy whatever) screenshots look better then any of the ones for xbox. ps3 will also have some compatibility with psp I think, and I will probably get a psp so it is all good.

[joey styles]

§§§§ Sony gayStation

[thog94]

§§§§ Sony gayStation

:biggthump

[esandov]

hahahahahaha XBOOOOOXXXXX yo!

Preston: I am working on my ninja pic ;)

[bigPimpsta]

ps3 is going to suck my causin is geting an x-box three sixty in 2 days bitches gold edition or watever the best is

[joey styles]

hell ya im geting one to scew ps what ever :321:

[paintreliever]

good thing ps3 is coming out in like 07../sarcasm

xbox all the way

[NickyD]

Really? I would get both of them if I could I like them both equally. But I like Xbox slightly more.

Preston: I am working on my ninja pic
^ HA HA only Presto can be THAT ninja.... Check the sig

[angel05speed_ns342]

the only games good for x-box are greg hastings paintball and halo and halo 2
plus PS3 is supposed to have a lot better graphics this time

[thog94]

the only games good for x-box are greg hastings paintball and halo and halo 2
plus PS3 is supposed to have a lot better graphics this time


Tell us how good the graphics are when it comes out in 2007. The quality of games for the xbox is much better than the quantity of games the ps puts out.

[1boobfromSector 7-G]

I'm not as nerdy on this as I use to be, but I watched something about it on techtv and they said that they would be pretty equal in power, said some guy from some mag. anyway........ my true feelings on it.
I seen a demo of one of them army games being played on an xbox 360 with a nice tv, at target. My feelings was that it looked about 20%-30% better then what is currently avaliable, i am talking about the during game play looks. So it didn't really impress me, and make my jaw drop and say WoW. I hope the ps3 can do this for me, but I figure I will get a similar impression from them. I believe the game was like call of duty 2 or something I seen. Maybe once they get on like game generation 3 or 4 my jaw might drop, hopefully. Once I see a basketball game, and see how fluid the arms and motion of the players look that will tell if I am impressed. In previous basketball games I have seen on earlier gen. consules, they have never got all the players motions to have a fluid flow.

[thog94]

If you have a Best Buy around, see if they have a demo of NBA 06. I don't play sports games because they become obsolete the next year, but a friend said it's the best hoops game that he's played. NOt sure about the fluid motions etc, but he said that game play is awesome.

[October Fly]

Microsoft cannot even deliver the goods on a release date they set, so Sony is pretty much going up against a bunch of posers.

[thog94]

Microsoft cannot even deliver the goods on a release date they set, so Sony is pretty much going up against a bunch of posers.

They did deliver, they just didn't deliver their entire quota.

I'd rather be waiting a month or so for a new system instead of waiting until 2007. BTW do you remember what happened when the PS2 came out, besides them constantly pushing back the date? Same thing that is happening to the 360 they couldn't meet the demands.

[Presto333]

the thing is, people are looking for these enormously better graphics because they have been duped into believing (with all the cg previews) that they will be so great now. The biggest difference in the next gen systems, is not as much an update in graphics, but a big up in other things such as the cpu power and wutnot. With this the game creators are able to make more realistic AI, more moving characters (such as a battlefield of thousands of warriors that are controlled individually by the computer), and other non-graphics things.

and there was a thing on ign i believe that compared the 360 and the ps3, and the xbox came out on top, ill find it later and explain it...

[Klassy Guy]

The ps3 and xbox will have similar graphics. The ps3 has the cell though which has 7 or 9 cores though, each can handle a single duty. Say 1 for graphics, 1 for ai, one for audio (surround), one for the non static graphics (lighting, etc), 1 for physics of players and objects, 1 for ammunition physics (of football physics). and 1 running the os in the background. That is 7 tasks there. Another thing most people forget is if a game is going to have great, near lifelike graphics they come at a cost of storage space on the disc. Can anybody say blu-ray. 50 gigs of removable storage shorty! And just when studios are going to start releasing hi def movies, oh, instead of buying a 500 dollar player, your ps3 is sitting right there, how convienent. The quality of games on the xbox is crap, I have ps2 and xbox, and games for the xbox are crap, other then halo, halo 2, morrowind is ok, but it gets old. Please read above for the amazing franchises that sony uses. Also the xbox may be able to use the psp, but the sony ps3 will be more capable due to software encryption and copyright issues. For comparisons on the two systems go to to ign.com and see the why buy a xbox 360 article, and see the why wait for a ps3 article. Review the pros of each, and compare, the ps3 has much more significant pros.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

Tell us how good the graphics are when it comes out in 2007. The quality of games for the xbox is much better than the quantity of games the ps puts out.

Do you think you're funny? Coz you're not
As long as they can improve the product who cares when it releases.

[Studmuffin]

One reason why I think the graphics aren't too great(well compared to what was shown at e3) on the 360 atm is because the games that usually release at the consoles launch aren't using the consoles full potential...for instants, I had madden '01 and '05 on my ps2 and there is def. a noticable difference in graphics. The difference between halo and halo 2 is noticable as well. So I think the games in the future for the 360 will get better with time.

[Presto333]

umm, if u just take a look at the article that this thread was started with u'd realize the 360 is better. For starters the cpu is "better" on the 360. Now on paper the ps3's cpu is clearly better, but gaming wise, the 360 takes the cake.
"The Xbox 360 processor was designed to give game developers the power that they actually need, in an easy to use form. The Cell processor has impressive streaming floating-point power that is of limited use for games."
"The Cell's seven DSPs (what Sony calls SPEs) have no cache, no direct access to memory, no branch predictor, and a different instruction set from the PS3's main CPU. They are not designed for or efficient at general purpose computing. DSPs are not appropriate for game programming."
and just reading the rest of the article u can clearly see which is better. Not to mention all the multi-purpose functions the xbox 360 is good for. The thing is Microsoft is creating a console that acts as a basic computer. You can do a lot of things on the 360 that you can do on a normal computer (listen to music, watch dvd's, customize, play games, etc.) because thats what microsoft is good at. And as for all the ps3 stuff that is expected to come out, thats all it is. They may claim that the entire market is turning towards blu-ray discs, but that doesn't make it the truth. And they may say that every home will have HD and better, but that is far from the truth. Anmd as for xxmjumpman23xx, stop being an ignorant douche. Just because you have some unknown grudge against microsoft doesn't mean you have to totally bash on their product with some childish routine insult.

Now with that aside, don't get me wrong, i'm sure the PS3 will also be a great system, and either one someone buys will be worth the $$$ that it costs. I'm just simply saying that using the information released thus far, the xbox 360 is in fact better.

[Presto333]

oh and btw, to all the ppl that saw the previews at e3 and say that the ps3 is so much better in graphics than the xbox 360, get a clue. Those where all cg animated previews, not in-game shots. and as studmuffin just said, the early release games most likely aren't using the full potential anyway.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

oh and btw, to all the ppl that saw the previews at e3 and say that the ps3 is so much better in graphics than the xbox 360, get a clue. Those where all cg animated previews, not in-game shots. and as studmuffin just said, the early release games most likely aren't using the full potential anyway.

K dude why are u so obsessed with XBOX, did microsoft hire you to advertise, lol

[Presto333]

i just simply say the facts based on what i've read

edit: and if i was hired by microsoft i sure wouldnt have enough time to post whore on here all day lol

[xxmjumpman23xx]

oh and btw, to all the ppl that saw the previews at e3 and say that the ps3 is so much better in graphics than the xbox 360, get a clue. Those where all cg animated previews, not in-game shots. and as studmuffin just said, the early release games most likely aren't using the full potential anyway.

At least 2 opinions in that quote itself mr. "facts based on what u've reads" lol k im done.
Im not against XBOX in fact i might get it i just dont like people going all crazy over one console when the others havent been released yet. :)

:patriot: :boobies: :patriot: :boobies: :patriot: :boobies: :patriot: :boobies:

[WildCard 19]

dont mind spellin but....

b4 u fags get in a tither
the 360 features are going to be alot better
u cant even tell the graphic difference between the 2 neways

and the 360 launch title only used 1 out of a possible 3 cores (which is main contributer in graphics for u uneducated people)

Reasons not to get PS3

- Blu Ray is good but used horribly. With Blu Ray u can not have LAN (local area network) parties because of the non infared controllers. Which MS has WOOT WOOT!! They require the signal from that area to use the wireless controllers. But u can do LAN if u use wired controllers (BOOO. OOOLLLLD))))

- Graphics are going to be the same. Of course XBox 360 graphics now are great but can be better. Just like all launch games dont use full capability like the PS2 or Xbox launch games. Look at the games now for those systems. So would u rather wait another month to get a next gen or another year cuz they will be backordered...

- Price is going to really high do to the chip and the blu ray technology they are using. Im estimation high 4's to low 5's for basic.

- Games (price) they are going w/ "next gen" (not really) blu ray discs which will cost a considerable amount more the 50 and 60. im guessing aroun 70-80.

- Games are all sequels and §§§§ coming out for the PS3. examples are GTA4 and MGS

- 7 controllers wow how gay. Screen size will be exremly small. Ill take my 63 fps game over 7 controllers ne day.

- Sony already said they aint gonna have an answer for Xbox live. They will have online but nowere near as great

- Load times will be longer.

Thanx
Gamertag
WildCard 19 -------- lvl 37 in H2 legit (tho i do derank alot)

and Yes I DO HAVE AN XBOX 360 AND ITS SWEET AS HELL
CAN SONY ALLOW U TO BURN DVD'S AND RECORD LIVE TV FOR DOWNLOAD DEMOS AND TRAILERS


DIDNT THINK SO

THANX FOR READING

[WildCard 19]

PS3 SUx

[paintreliever]

ive heard the 360 freezes like a beast, but im not one to complain, there are always bugs in the first batch.

played it at target tonight...well, for like 2 minutes before we got kicked out, and not really that impressed with the graphics, everyone talked it up

[WildCard 19]

some games do freeze like u said i newly released systems
and the graphics are better on HDTV's obviously
but wait 4 months and the truly awesome games will be out
i.e

Ghost Recon Advance WarFighter
These graphics will be truly unbeliavble
but the new games never do full graphic capability.


Look at these grahics and say u arent amazed i dare u

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7332&type=wmv

thats wat u can expect

[xxmjumpman23xx]

dont mind spellin but....

b4 u fags get in a tither
the 360 features are going to be alot better
u cant even tell the graphic difference between the 2 neways

and the 360 launch title only used 1 out of a possible 3 cores (which is main contributer in graphics for u uneducated people)

Reasons not to get PS3

- Blu Ray is good but used horribly. With Blu Ray u can not have LAN (local area network) parties because of the non infared controllers. Which MS has WOOT WOOT!! They require the signal from that area to use the wireless controllers. But u can do LAN if u use wired controllers (BOOO. OOOLLLLD))))

- Graphics are going to be the same. Of course XBox 360 graphics now are great but can be better. Just like all launch games dont use full capability like the PS2 or Xbox launch games. Look at the games now for those systems. So would u rather wait another month to get a next gen or another year cuz they will be backordered...

- Price is going to really high do to the chip and the blu ray technology they are using. Im estimation high 4's to low 5's for basic.

- Games (price) they are going w/ "next gen" (not really) blu ray discs which will cost a considerable amount more the 50 and 60. im guessing aroun 70-80.

- Games are all sequels and §§§§ coming out for the PS3. examples are GTA4 and MGS

- 7 controllers wow how gay. Screen size will be exremly small. Ill take my 63 fps game over 7 controllers ne day.

- Sony already said they aint gonna have an answer for Xbox live. They will have online but nowere near as great

- Load times will be longer.

Thanx
Gamertag
WildCard 19 -------- lvl 37 in H2 legit (tho i do derank alot)

and Yes I DO HAVE AN XBOX 360 AND ITS SWEET AS HELL
CAN SONY ALLOW U TO BURN DVD'S AND RECORD LIVE TV FOR DOWNLOAD DEMOS AND TRAILERS


DIDNT THINK SO

THANX FOR READING



Do you think you sound smart? You are HORRIBLE at making a point, your whole paragraph is extremely biased and filled with opinions. I am not against XBOX and actually might get one but i hate seeing biased crap from people like you, lets make a list of your OPINIONS


- "7 controllers wow how gay. Screen size will be exremly small. Ill take my 63 fps game over 7 controllers ne day."

UP TO 7 controllers meaning you can use 2 TV's to play, (PS3 has 2 HDMI ports)


- "Sony already said they aint gonna have an answer for Xbox live. They will have online but nowere near as great"

Nowhere near as great, how the HELL do you know that


- "Games are all sequels and §§§§ coming out for the PS3. examples are GTA4 and MGS"

Almost every XBOX 360 game is a sequel or a copy from previous consoles and one of the major complaints about its release is all the games are old and there is not a "must have" game.


- "Price is going to really high do to the chip and the blu ray technology they are using. Im estimation high 4's to low 5's for basic."

Your estimation? We have no idea yet


- "Load times will be longer."

Dont know that


Need i say more?

Wait for the actual console to come out before you sit on your sorry ass and speculate how its gonna be,

Once again I have nothing against XBOX 360, just dont sit there throwing out your opinions for all us to read.

[paintreliever]

some games do freeze like u said i newly released systems
and the graphics are better on HDTV's obviously
but wait 4 months and the truly awesome games will be out
i.e

Ghost Recon Advance WarFighter
These graphics will be truly unbeliavble
but the new games never do full graphic capability.


Look at these grahics and say u arent amazed i dare u

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7332&type=wmv

thats wat u can expect
ill check that out tomorrow, my computer sucks, gotta go to friends house

[Presto333]

the freezing exists only in some xbox 360's, as with the first generation coming out some will have some problems. Only some of the 360's where recalled for this, it's not all the systems with the problem.

[WildCard 19]

5 out of those 7 are actual anouncements from SOny Corp

no im not trying to sound smart but
te ones that are probably tru but i added opinion to is

7 controllers how gay
the 7 controllers is the true part
but the gay and screen size are opinions

and the games w/ sequels is entirly opinion
k happy
the other stuff is true i can link u rite now to there exact statements about the online the blu ray and all that
just lmk

i dont have alot against PS but the 360 is a way better system and i have had to many problems w/ Sony

48'' HDTv didnt work wen we got it so we got panosonic

PSP screen didnt entirly work

PS2 controller i got day of launch was cracked and chipped and the box or square button didnt work

[connor07]

With everything you are going to be divided. The gamers are devided between console games and PC games, console games are divided between console.

The bottom liine is get what you want or you like. I have or had both systems. My faith in Sony is lost so I ditched the PS2 and I love the xbox, there isn't much that will be able to change my mind. You really can't compair the 2 console since 1 is out and the other one is just about pure speculation right now.

As far as graphics go, they are better, but you can expect them to be 100% better than the previous system. Another factor to look at is what kind of TV is the system running on HDTV is going to be much better than standard.

[WDP ir3 2k3]

I think the ps3 will be better Im geting the xbox360 im a halo guy

[Zippy]

you cant look at xbox 2 V. PS3..... PS3 Spec. are not final yet.....

[Klassy Guy]

Oh by the way, xbox doesn't use infared controllers, they use wifi controllers, or rf. Sony doesn't use blu ray controllers, I have no Idea what that is, I know what bluetooth is, and that is what they use stupid. Don't make comments on what you think you know. I have decided that all of you have formed your opinion on a console that hasn't been laucned yet, so lets all take a breather until it does.

[WildCard 19]

first off notall Xbox 360 and regular Xbox controllers doenst use WiFi controllers
and sorry i was on a Blu Ray web site when i was talking about BluTooth

[sniper1111]

For those that have seen it, and those that have'nt. The ps3 unveiling is proof that it tops the xbox360 performance without a doubt.

http://www.ryoni.com/news/134/ARTICLE/1426/2005-05-18.html

For enjoyment purposes...

http://www.yikers.com/video_dudes_smash_xbox_360.html

Here’s an article read from Businessweek, just last week:

For Every Xbox, a Big Fat Loss
Despite all the hype surrounding the new Xbox 360 video game console, Microsoft won’t make money on the machine itself. A tear-down analysis by market researcher iSuppli of the high-end Xbox 360, which contains a hard drive, found that the materials cost Microsoft $470 before assembly. Chips alone account for 72% of that. The console sells at retail for $399, for a loss of $71 per unit. Other items in the box, such as the power supply, cables, and controllers, add $55 more to Microsoft’s cost, pushing its loss per unit to $126.
That’s slightly higher than what Microsoft swallowed on the first Xbox console. ISuppli analyst Chris Crotty says efficiency gains eventually should shave $50 of chip costs, closer to breakeven. A spokeswoman says Microsoft expects that including sales of its own game software, the Xbox line should start out “gross margin neutral”- breakeven- and turn a profit in 2007. Will this classic razor-and-blade strategy work? It hasn’t so far: In the year ended on June 30, Microsoft’s home entertainment division lost $391 million on sales of $3.3 billion.
-Arik Hesseldahl

[Presto333]

i didnt watch the vid, cause it broke my internet... but as for the article, Microsoft did the same thing with the first xbox and did pretty well. And sony has thought about doing the same thing with the ps3. Hw it works is that they sell the system for a lower amount than it is built for (losing money), but gain the money back in the end through games, accesories, customer loyalty, etc. Clearly it's just a game plan and preparing for the future, and anyone who has at least taken a high school economics class would know this and not recognize it as a loss...

[sniper1111]

Hw it works is that they sell the system for a lower amount than it is built for (losing money), but gain the money back in the end through games, accesories, customer loyalty, etc. Clearly it's just a game plan and preparing for the future, and anyone who has at least taken a high school economics class would know this and not recognize it as a loss...

But, they have'nt gained it back yet....

Will this classic razor-and-blade strategy work? It hasn’t so far: In the year ended on June 30, Microsoft’s home entertainment division lost $391 million on sales of $3.3 billion

It may not be a huge loss, but a loss none the less. The only thing holding the company together is there 3 billion in profits. As well as Bill Gates net worth which is 27,622,547,447.36 billion based on microsofts current stock price.

[WildCard 19]

Sniper u r retarded. No §§§§ it aint as powerful but i guaratee you that you can not tell the difference.
And as for old news evryone knows its losing money overall but in about 1 year they will be making a big a$$ profit over it.
U r just retarded
Sony Fanboy

[WildCard 19]

sniper just stay away

[thog94]

I could careless if Microsoft makes money on the 360. I am not a shareholder or have any vested interest. I'm just a gamer who wants a decent system besides a PS.

I also think it's funny that you say that the only thing holding the company together is it's 3 billion in profits. What companies lose in 1 section, the make up for it in others, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.

Since you read Business Week, you must take some sort of economics class, if not here is a small basic lesson: Some companies with large capitol are willing to venture into other projects if they think that they will turn a profit. They also know that they might not, but are willing to take a loss for a certain amount without doing permanant damage to the company. At times these ventures will show an initial loss with a profit down the road.

I'm sure that Gates had his people do their homework on the situation. Besides, be happy that they aren't charging you the extra 125+ so they can turn an early profit.

[warpedx]

I'm don't have a lot of business knowledge, but couldn't they also be stepping into the market to keep the other companies in check, kind of keeping the playing board tipped in their favor?

[Presto333]

Exactly, they aren't looking for the profit yet. And i'm sure the 391 mil they lost is chump change compared to the billions they r gaining in their other departments. Now just wait until they own a bigger share of the market, and then the profits start rolling in. You gotta remember it's Microsoft, when they go for a piece of the pie, they aim for the whole §§§§ing pie.

[warpedx]

Shouldn't you be in school Presto????? Damn slackers....

[Presto333]

hahaha, no school for me today :cool:

[$blissta05$]

Microsoft is evil.... all there is to it, only thing is hastings a halo 2. I have already heard the 360 is freezing and i heard on the news 2 people have been killed over "the xbox craze" some crazy ass guy followed a woman home and she had the 360 and he shot her.....:stupid: I cant remember the other, the playstaion will rise again. :boink:

[Presto333]

they rly should start giving IQ tests with membership these days...

[sniper1111]

Sniper u r retarded. No §§§§ it aint as powerful but i guaratee you that you can not tell the difference.
And as for old news evryone knows its losing money overall but in about 1 year they will be making a big a$$ profit over it.
U r just retarded
Sony Fanboy

Wow someone takes their console to heart sorry to strike your geek nerve man didnt know you took the xbox to heart. I couldnt care less what xbox does, as for your so called put down im going to ignore it. Yeah and ill stay away psst..

[Klassy Guy]

Seriously Wild Card has to be getting money under the table, behind the blinds, off the books, etc, from Microsoft. No one can be so angry at other people unless they are trying to justify a impulse buying spree on their 360, hmmm.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

Seriously Wild Card has to be getting money under the table, behind the blinds, off the books, etc, from Microsoft. No one can be so angry at other people unless they are trying to justify a impulse buying spree on their 360, hmmm.

Exactly, I agree :evilgrin:

[WildCard 19]

no really i just really love the xbox's. I always had trouble w/ sonys from the ps2, and cameras, to the PSP screen not workin.
Thats all
bbut ROLF's on the MS payin me
Just a fanboy is all i am
notin personal
well....
maybe

[MrChromey]

All your ranting and raving means nothing in this thread. The ps3 isn't even close to coming out and all you have to stand on is specs and tech demos. I don't care who the expert is, until we have a finalized system ready for launch they're blowing smoke up your ass. As for "pre rendered cg's" such as the MGS4 video, you need to check out the TGS 05 showcase. Hideo stopped the video and freely moved around the camera, even zooming into certain parts of snake's suit to show off some of the visual effects the ps3 can supposedly handle. If you've seen the showcase, you can clearly see it's running real time. Finalized version? No. But it's one hell of a demo.
Here it is if you haven't seen it. (http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html)

Am I a sony fanboy? No. I own a ps2, xbox and gamecube and enjoy them all immensly. And yes, i even got a 360 which I'm loving every second of. Just don't dismiss what the ps3 is going to be able to do.

[Presto333]

alright, we r seperating into groups here. let's all come together on the sure thing. we can all agree that xbox 360 and ps3 will be way better than w/e crap nintendo will be coming out with.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

alright, we r seperating into groups here. let's all come together on the sure thing. we can all agree that xbox 360 and ps3 will be way better than w/e crap nintendo will be coming out with.

Quite possible

but STILL we cant be sure

lol

[NickyD]

they rly should start giving IQ tests with membership these days...

So instead of typing the code or whatever to ensure you're not a robot, to confirm your signup you must answer 6239 is to 9326 as HO is to OH...True or False?

[i luv me angel]

no really i just really love the xbox's. I always had trouble w/ sonys from the ps2, and cameras, to the PSP screen not workin.
Thats all
bbut ROLF's on the MS payin me
Just a fanboy is all i am
notin personal
well....
maybe

oh yes my ps2 broke after like 3 years and it should last longer and i have a 360 and i love it PS3 SUX
i read in a mag that the ps3 will be 600$ now that is insanisy outrages.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

oh yes my ps2 broke after like 3 years and it should last longer and i have a 360 and i love it PS3 SUX
i read in a mag that the ps3 will be 600$ now that is insanisy outrages.

what do u mean u read in a mag, that information has been around forever man, the 60 gb will cost $600 and the one w/ the smaller hardrive will cost $500, the thing is it comes with a blu-ray player, microsoft endorses HD-DVD and when the next generation format war is fully underway you will have to put an ADD-ON drive onto the xbox 360 just to play HD-DVDS, reports are this add-on will cost $200 or more, bringing the price up to the PS3's. all sony's games are already being made on the blue ray format meaning the game discs can store 5 times more than the other consoles....

so basically, dont bitch about the price

[thog94]

6 bills is way to much, blue ray or not. I am buying a gaming system and could give 2 §§§§s as to what kind of DVD it plays. So for 6 bills that system should blow me every once in a while.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

6 bills is way to much, blue ray or not. I am buying a gaming system and could give 2 §§§§s as to what kind of DVD it plays. So for 6 bills that system should blow me every once in a while.

when DVD's are replaced, just like VHS was, you will need to have a player, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are going to be very expensive for the first year or two so to have it already built in is a nice option, and to have to add on a new drive just to play HD-DVD is BS IMO, also the games for ps3 can be much longer and more involved because the discs have 5 times more storage (for the time being), no-one is saying XBOX 360 is a bad console, if you think $600 is too expensive then dont buy it, just stop bitching like a baby, if you think $600 is a lot well the sport we play in is overpriced too, paintball is probably the most expensive sport you can play, for gamers and enthusiasts $600 is just fine

[thog94]

when DVD's are replaced, just like VHS was, you will need to have a player, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are going to be very expensive for the first year or two so to have it already built in is a nice option, and to have to add on a new drive just to play HD-DVD is BS IMO, also the games for ps3 can be much longer and more involved because the discs have 5 times more storage (for the time being), no-one is saying XBOX 360 is a bad console, if you think $600 is too expensive then dont buy it, just stop bitching like a baby, if you think $600 is a lot well the sport we play in is overpriced too, paintball is probably the most expensive sport you can play, for gamers and enthusiasts $600 is just fine

I never bitched like a baby, so get your facts straight. I simply stated that I buy a gaming console so I can play games, not DVD's so any other features that it has are useless to me. If and when DVD's are replaced, I will purchase a separate player for them. There is still a debate on who will support Blue Ray and who will support HD, so right now both are useless IMO.

Playstation whores themselves out. Sure you have a ton more games for the console, but the quality isn't as good. I would much rather have quality than quantity. As far as the disc holding more info so the games can be longer, sure, but how long are you going to wait for these games to be produced and how good and how much will they be?

About the only thing that I can agree with you is that if you think that it's to much, don't buy it. However as a consumer, you have a right to complain about the price whether you buy one or not. You want to talk about an expensive sport, play hockey.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

I never bitched like a baby, so get your facts straight. I simply stated that I buy a gaming console so I can play games, not DVD's so any other features that it has are useless to me. If and when DVD's are replaced, I will purchase a separate player for them. There is still a debate on who will support Blue Ray and who will support HD, so right now both are useless IMO.

Playstation whores themselves out. Sure you have a ton more games for the console, but the quality isn't as good. I would much rather have quality than quantity. As far as the disc holding more info so the games can be longer, sure, but how long are you going to wait for these games to be produced and how good and how much will they be?

About the only thing that I can agree with you is that if you think that it's to much, don't buy it. However as a consumer, you have a right to complain about the price whether you buy one or not. You want to talk about an expensive sport, play hockey.

we cant speak of game quality without seeing the console, and by bitching i was talking about when u said "i could give 2 §§§§s, and for 6 bills the system should blow me" I have no animosity towards you or the XBOX 360 but I am saying it is nice to have the option of the blu-ray player because current early models of the blu-ray and HD-DVD players are $1000 and when we really get into a transition from DVD into the new formats we can excpect a very high price tag for the stand-alone players. Video game consoles are all personal preference, I personally think all the new next-gen consoles have something unique about them and hell, I would get all 3 if i could afford it

[WDP ir3 2k3]

Looks like nobody has side someing in a long time in this thread. So who do you guys think really won?

[Presto333]

sony is doing terrible right now

[TheDragonJedi]

sony is doing terrible right now

on the contrary, Sony PS2 units outsold WII, 360, and PS3. Mostly due to it's low price. I think sony will come out even as they start making a slight profit on the PS2 and PSP to offset thier loss on the PS3. Granted it will be a while before they break even on the PS3.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

lol talk about irony, i had posts adamantly defending PS3 and talking about how great it is and I have now had 360 for around 2 months

[WDP ir3 2k3]

Yea just give it time on the ps3. Iv played it and really did like it. The 360 has the ps3 beat of online for sure. When i seen how it was set up I thought it was just like the ps2.

[thog94]

For all of the extra time that it took to come out, I really wasn't impressed. You can put both consoles side by side on a HDTV and can't notice the difference. Until they come out with something worth while that blows me away, I'll stick with the 360 and my Wii. You can't beat the online gaming of the 360 and the pure fun factor of the Wii.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

we cant speak of game quality without seeing the console, and by bitching i was talking about when u said "i could give 2 §§§§s, and for 6 bills the system should blow me" I have no animosity towards you or the XBOX 360 but I am saying it is nice to have the option of the blu-ray player because current early models of the blu-ray and HD-DVD players are $1000 and when we really get into a transition from DVD into the new formats we can excpect a very high price tag for the stand-alone players. Video game consoles are all personal preference, I personally think all the new next-gen consoles have something unique about them and hell, I would get all 3 if i could afford it

I had a series of quotes like the one above flaming thog and strongly campaigning for ps3 and i ended up w/ a 360 and i loveee it, my bad thog94 lol

BTW Gears of War is probably the best game ive ever played, or at least in the top 3

[thog94]

I had a series of quotes like the one above flaming thog and strongly campaigning for ps3 and i ended up w/ a 360 and i loveee it, my bad thog94 lol

BTW Gears of War is probably the best game ive ever played, or at least in the top 3

No need to remind me that you are an idiot ;)

I love GoW, but am really into R6: Vegas, all they needed to put into Vegas was the curb stomp.

[Splat Master]

I just read an article on the ps3 channel at ign.com that stated that the wii is out selling the ps3 3 to 1 in Japan. The gap is even bigger on ebay. As strictly sales goes, the wii is on top.

[xxmjumpman23xx]

ya thats mainly coz of price

[xxmjumpman23xx]

I love GoW, but am really into R6: Vegas, all they needed to put into Vegas was the curb stomp.

can't forget the chainsaw :)

[warpedx]

Been thinking what console I'll be getting, and have decided on the 360.
600 is more than I'm willing to put out for a gaming system. If I cared about bluray, I could be swayed, but I don't.
The 360 has the games I want, thats the biggest factor in choosing it over a wii.

[dusted]

Been thinking what console I'll be getting, and have decided on the 360.
600 is more than I'm willing to put out for a gaming system. If I cared about bluray, I could be swayed, but I don't.
The 360 has the games I want, thats the biggest factor in choosing it over a wii.

BUY 360 AND TIGER WOODS 07 AND ITS GONNA BE TRASH TALKIN AND DRINKING ONLINE EXTASY, FOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheDragonJedi]

No need to remind me that you are an idiot ;)

I love GoW, but am really into R6: Vegas, all they needed to put into Vegas was the curb stomp.

Not surprisingly those are the only two games I play on a regular basis. On Weekends I switch over to playing oblivian till 3 in the morning. I've got a PS2 mainly for Greg Hastings and Guitar Hero. The latter is addictive as hell, I've got them both but now that the second one is coming out for 360 I think I can safely retire it and wait for Greg Hastings to come out later.

[thog94]

Not surprisingly those are the only two games I play on a regular basis. On Weekends I switch over to playing oblivian till 3 in the morning. I've got a PS2 mainly for Greg Hastings and Guitar Hero. The latter is addictive as hell, I've got them both but now that the second one is coming out for 360 I think I can safely retire it and wait for Greg Hastings to come out later.

The new OXM has an article on Guitar Hero. I've played it for the PS2 and I think that I'll pick it up for the 360.

Hell, I think it's time for some Vegas online right now.

[TheDragonJedi]

The new OXM has an article on Guitar Hero. I've played it for the PS2 and I think that I'll pick it up for the 360.

Hell, I think it's time for some Vegas online right now.


While the rest of us are probably working, Lucky bastard. :pissed:

[thog94]

While the rest of us are probably working, Lucky bastard. :pissed:

If you are "working" what are you doing posting? ;)

[TheDragonJedi]

You'd be surprised, when I first started I used to hear strange stories about what these guys did when the lights were off in the office and the doors were closed. were talking fridges stacked with beer and late night server migrations.

as for what I do, I'm the IT department, so I'm always in front of a computer.


Also now that I got a good look at the Xbox's guitar hero controller, It's looks small compared to the PS2 version. Seriously, the first picture on the bottom of the review shows one of the guys holding up the guitar and it's look rediculously small!!!