G7 Wish List

[ITO]

Well I have only had my G7 for a couple of days now but I already have short wish list. While I am not really a complete perfectionist, I sometimes see way I think things could be better…

1) The charger is a bit of a joke. If it takes 4 hours to completely charge the battery then why did they supply a car charger? I mean come-on who drives there car around for 4 hours just to charger their paintball marker? My Toyota Tundra shuts down all the cigarette lighters when I take the key out, so the only way to use it to charge my marker would be to leave the key in…

My Angel rep tells me the only power supply they endorse it the Samlex America # SPS-120446 Which I find VERY odd, considering the input voltage for the one they supplied is anything in between 11V and 30V Direct Current at no more than 750mA. Keep in mind ever car in the world is minutely different and will have varying degrees of supply voltage and current available. So basically just about any 120VAC to 12VDC cigarette type adapter will work.

I intend to pick up a 4.8V 600mA 120VAC to 12VDC charge a Radio Shack or one for the cigarette adapter which ever is cheaper.

My wish here, I wish Angel would just have provided a Power Supply that plugged into the wall 120VAC. This is a first class marker and it needs to come with a usable charger.

2) My guess is the number hand engraved under the breach is the serial number? I think this should have been stamped in somewhere and the hand engraving is cheap. IMHO…

3) Computer interface, with all the programming and hardware this thing comes with why cant we use a PDA or a Laptop to change settings? I understand you can use another Angel to transmit via IR settings but the pushbutton menu navigation is a pain, and a nice GUI on a laptop would be sweet.

Just my 2 cents for the first 2 day of owning my G7, but I would love to hear if anyone else here has a wish list too.

[Doctor]

i like the hand engraving...lets you know that an actual person looked at the gun before it was boxed up....ferraris come hand engraved 'nuff said. the charger however is a bit of a joke.

[ITO]

Ferraris also come with a stamped VIN number.

A stamp can never be removed and an engraving can be altered or removed...'nuff said.

[/\ngel]

OOOO....burn

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

well there isnt a market out there for falsifying angel serial numbers so i dont think that should be much of a complaint. i mean if ur gonna get picky on hand engraved serial numbers i think u need to spend more time playin and not starin at your gun =). its a paintball gun, not a rocketship.

[ITO]

OOOO....burn

It's not a burn, it is a good point that Ferraris have hand engraved numbers. Its kind of cool actually but real firearms come with stamped number for a reason... they cant ever effectively be removed without ruining the gun. Well except for maybe Glocks.

I guess my concern is if it gets stolen that all they would have to do is replace the breach or alter the number and they effectively remove any proof that it was mine.r it.

[ITO]

Jetwing@Impactpaintball,

Unfortunately like most folks here, we spent a lot more time not playing than actually playing.

Read the title, it’s a wish list.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

yes, not gonna get into a dispute, but a wishlist for accesories/modifications to a gun doesnt mean you cant use the gun as it is...therefore it being a wishlist is irrelevant...

[ITO]

I am sorry I thought this area was for discussions about G7s. I had no idea we were just supposed to play with them and not talk about them...my bad.

[Trigga Nometry]

You'll actually find the serial number in other places than just the breech block. If I recall correctly, it can also be found on the eye covers of all places. It doesn't bother me though.

I picked up the WDP approved charger from FMA. I did so just to be on the safe side. I didn't want to chance the board somehow getting fired, the boards aren't cheap. I think I paid $24-$26 or so for the wall charger from FMA and I actually use it for my cell phones too.

I hope they do release at least a PDA interface program for the G7. It'd just be cool to play around with.

[andrewnomicon]

You'll actually find the serial number in other places than just the breech block. If I recall correctly, it can also be found on the eye covers of all places. It doesn't bother me though.

I picked up the WDP approved charger from FMA. I did so just to be on the safe side. I didn't want to chance the board somehow getting fired, the boards aren't cheap. I think I paid $24-$26 or so for the wall charger from FMA and I actually use it for my cell phones too.

I hope they do release at least a PDA interface program for the G7. It'd just be cool to play around with.

could you post a link to get the same charger if you could, or point me in the right direction to getting ahold of one? thanks a lot!

[/\ngel]

yes, same here please

[El Pirata]

The reason for coming with a car charger is plain and simple, for the most part there are going to be more cars than 110 outlets near the field. Most owners of rechargables will more often than not plug their charger in on their way to the field just to make sure they have enough charge for the day. So it's a little inconvient to plug in the charger say the night before and leave our marker out there for a few hours on the charger. Just grab it before you go to bed and you're all charged.

If WDP's manual was correct stating you would get about 150,000 shots off a full charge, who often do you really need to charge it? Hell, even if you only get 50,000 shots off a full charge you're still looking at 25 cases of paint off a single charge and I don't know anyone who shoots that much on a single day so charging is not an issue.

[/\ngel]

very true...but I would still like to get the wall charger

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

I am sorry I thought this area was for discussions about G7s. I had no idea we were just supposed to play with them and not talk about them...my bad.

no one said u couldnt discuss, what i was pointing out was ur problem with something as trivial as serial numbers, you then said that you dont get to play much anyway and that this title was a wishlist, at that point i pointed out that even if it is a wishlist it doesnt mean you cant play with ur gun the way it is, therefore makin ur "wishlist claim" irrelevant, i see no mention of me hinting that u cant discuss... just thought that pickin at the quality of a serial number seemed well... picky... =) its all good though. we all get picky at times

[sharps990]

personaly i would love for wdp to put things out like eclipse does with their ego's---specifacilly the contrast parts kit it would b awsome to have a gun that reminds a person of the looks of a dmc

a tool kit with the exoust pressure gauge would b nice too

sharps

[pimpinsaylor]

i have the wall charger its great. and trigga there is a serial # unter the side of the gun where the frame goes and one on the inside of the frame. those are the only 2 extra # i have found

[Sparco]

I think the other thing to consider with the car charger is that WDP is a world wide distributor of paintball guns. If they sold the guns with US approved wall chargers and I bought an Angel in Ireland I'd be pretty beat.

The car charger gives you a lot more flexibility. BTW regarding the at home chargers... I've been using a $12 charger from radio shack for 4-years (running) and never once have I caused damage to my charger or marker.

[ITO]

Good point Pirata, but I think the real reason they use the car charge is that it’s the same charger for every part of the world. All cigarette lighters are 12v and the same configuration (except for some diesels with are 24V) but they got the covered too.

It’s more economical and convenient.

Parts of Europe and specifically GB uses 240VAC 50HZ while the US uses 120VAC 60HZ, and while there are converters out their that will work on both they are expensive and the car charger they provide it quite cheap.

I priced the one at Rat Shack and the price Trigga found is about the same so I will go with that one.

[Doctor]

i didnt mean for that to sound like a burn..was just offering my opinion. discussing as it were......

[ITO]

This is the one my Angel rep has and said Angel recommends.
http://www.samlexamerica.com
Model # SPS-1204UL 3.5 Amp Switching Power Supply

This is one I found at Rat Shack for $25
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F009%5F001%5F005%5F000&product%5Fid=22%2D505

Basically I am still using the Angel Charger but I am using this 12V converter to do it. As long as the input to the Angel Charger is 11VDC to 30VDC (assuming correct polarity) and can provide up to 750mA then it will work, and you are still using the Angel charger.

Keep in mind every car in the world is different and factors like age, alternator strength, batter strength and even the belts being loose or tight will be a factor in the quality of power you get form your cars cigarette lighter adapter so the input into the Angle charger can have a lot of “slop” as indicated right on the label… 11V-30V DC.

[Trigga Nometry]

Hmmm...I don't see the charger listed on FMA anymore. BoB must havce them out of stock. www.cobrapaintball.com carries them too.

[ITO]

The Cobra wall charger (http://cobrapaintball.com/Shop/catalog-product71) is the Samlex SPS-1204UL (http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/productdescription.asp?ProductsID=5004). BTW MSRP on these is $29.95 so if you do find one on line don’t pay too much.

A quick web search turned up these:
Ham radio Source- $30 (http://www.hamradio.com/cgi-bin/uncgi/ase?MAN=Sam)
Universal Radio Source- $28.95 (http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamps/0923.html)
Wholesale Electronics Source- $35.30. (http://www.weisd.com/store2/SMLSPS-1204UL.html)

I bought the FCP-1000 (http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/productdescription.asp?ProductsID=5001) for $9. The only difference being it’s cheaper and it is not regulated, but I run my electronics on a surge suppressor anyway so I don’t care.

[Trigga Nometry]

The Cobra wall charger (http://cobrapaintball.com/Shop/catalog-product71) is the Samlex SPS-1204UL (http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/productdescription.asp?ProductsID=5004). BTW MSRP on these is $29.95 so if you do find one on line don’t pay too much.

A quick web search turned up these:
Ham radio Source- $30 (http://www.hamradio.com/cgi-bin/uncgi/ase?MAN=Sam)
Universal Radio Source- $28.95 (http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamps/0923.html)
Wholesale Electronics Source- $35.30. (http://www.weisd.com/store2/SMLSPS-1204UL.html)

I bought the FCP-1000 (http://www.samlexamerica.com/products/productdescription.asp?ProductsID=5001) for $9. The only difference being it’s cheaper and it is not regulated, but I run my electronics on a surge suppressor anyway so I don’t care.Yup, that sounds like what I have. Pics are attached.

[Studmuffin]

aren't european wall outlets different from american wall outlets?

[pimpinsaylor]

Yup, that sounds like what I have. Pics are attached.
same thing i have. works great

[ITO]

aren't European wall outlets different from American wall outlets?

Ummm BIGTIME YES.

Japanese are the same with the US but there are several different European configurations, voltages, and other little details. I don’t have my reference book here at home with me so I cant tell you exactly what each country does but GB is on 240VAC 50Hz in lieu of what is used in the US which is 120VAC 60Hz.

[sharps990]

definatily

i went to england about a month ago and bought a converter for all of europe and it had 6 diffrent combinations of plugs that one could use

sharps

[dusted]

heres the only "wish" that should be on your list- i wish i could play more paintball

[El Pirata]

heres the only "wish" that should be on your list- i wish i could play more paintballTell the wife and kids they all have to get high paying jobs so daddy can quit his job and play paintball more. As an added bonus you'll get to relive great memories while sleeping on the couch too.

[ITO]

There is wifey time, baby time, home improvement time, chore time, study time and if I am really lucky I my time on some hot Saturday when they are napping.

I write crap like this in between dealing with crappy diapers and chores.

[Trigga Nometry]

I write crap like this in between dealing with crappy diapers and chores.You are not the only one!

[ITO]

Looks like Ken carries them too:
http://performanceangel.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=306&cat=72&page=1

By the way I just discovered my marker has 3 differnt serial numbers.

One one the box.
One in the breach.
One in the Board.
All a differnt, and when I tried to register online they said the number I had on the breach was already registered.

[El Pirata]

Call whoever you bought it from because that definately is not right!

[ITO]

I have already sent an email to Angel. Like a said they need to have a serial number STAMPED into the frame.

[El Pirata]

I have already sent an email to Angel. Like a said they need to have a serial number STAMPED into the frame.SO potentially you have 4 different serial numbers then...

[Trigga Nometry]

ITO - Did you check the eye covers too for numbers?

It almost sounds like it came from a chop shop.

[APachon]

Ito go off of the numbers when you scroll the the screens. The same thing happened with me with both of my G7's

~A

[Benfrain]

Wishlist for G7...

1. Proper clamping feedneck (not the twisty rubber insert type)
2. Loose the breech lever from the back (have a dial connected to the ram if need be to serve the same purpose but leave the on/off exposed). At the minute I feel that form is dictating function in this respect and the existing lever is a little flimsy and easily 'hangs loose' after a month or so...

Other than that it's an awesome piece of kit.

[ITO]

Wishlist for G7...

1. Proper clamping feedneck (not the twisty rubber insert type)


I agree here, and bought aftermarket one. The Twisty one required way too much effort.

[Spedracer]

Well I have only had my G7 for a couple of days now but I already have short wish list. While I am not really a complete perfectionist, I sometimes see way I think things could be better…

1) The charger is a bit of a joke. If it takes 4 hours to completely charge the battery then why did they supply a car charger? I mean come-on who drives there car around for 4 hours just to charger their paintball marker? My Toyota Tundra shuts down all the cigarette lighters when I take the key out, so the only way to use it to charge my marker would be to leave the key in…

My Angel rep tells me the only power supply they endorse it the Samlex America # SPS-120446 Which I find VERY odd, considering the input voltage for the one they supplied is anything in between 11V and 30V Direct Current at no more than 750mA. Keep in mind ever car in the world is minutely different and will have varying degrees of supply voltage and current available. So basically just about any 120VAC to 12VDC cigarette type adapter will work.

I intend to pick up a 4.8V 600mA 120VAC to 12VDC charge a Radio Shack or one for the cigarette adapter which ever is cheaper.

My wish here, I wish Angel would just have provided a Power Supply that plugged into the wall 120VAC. This is a first class marker and it needs to come with a usable charger.

2) My guess is the number hand engraved under the breach is the serial number? I think this should have been stamped in somewhere and the hand engraving is cheap. IMHO…

3) Computer interface, with all the programming and hardware this thing comes with why cant we use a PDA or a Laptop to change settings? I understand you can use another Angel to transmit via IR settings but the pushbutton menu navigation is a pain, and a nice GUI on a laptop would be sweet.

Just my 2 cents for the first 2 day of owning my G7, but I would love to hear if anyone else here has a wish list too.


talk about being critical...these are things i never think about when buying a gun...or shooting it rather.

go play paintball man.

[ITO]

For $1300 I paid for the right to be critical. Obviously there is more to just playing otherwise you two would not be here posting.