Angels and Water

[Xerxes]

Well, im going to play next sunday for the first time with my 05 speed, and this is really the only chance im going to get to play for a while. But, the forecast says rain, my question, is there anything to do to keep the angel safe from the rain and that sort of stuff getting in it, or should i just take my extra spyder instead. Kinda a dumb question but im just curious if there was anything able to be done

[Snowfire]

you went from a spyder to a speed?
well mine was in the back of my car when 2.5 gallons of water spilled and it still works.

[Sparco]

Not really, you probably don't want to keep the breech door open for extended periods of time in the rain. I'm sure there will be covered staging area for you. You'll want to worry more about your barrel than anything. Keep rain out of there and plug the porting, or wrap the barrel in electric tape for a "quick fix."

Biggest thing though is the post-game cleanup. It is critical that you dry all the screws and especially the breech rods when you're done. If moisture sits on that aluminum it'll rot and rust it. Then in a few months time you'll go to pull your breech rod out and be in for a nasty surprise.

[big azn]

will water hurt the electronics on the gun?

[454casull]

Sorry Sparco, but aluminum doesn't rust. But yea I know what u mean. I like your post good info.
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[El Pirata]

will water hurt the electronics on the gun?You bet your life it will. Water and electronics do not mix. I would never suggest not playing for the fear of possibly getting your marker wet, unless you are trying to play in a tropical monsoon type downpour. You should do everything within reason to keep your marker dry. Remember neither the electronics nor your paint is friendly to the rain.

[Bigal1]

Sorry Sparco, but aluminum doesn't rust. But yea I know what u mean. I like your post good info.
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Well, I think Sparco is correct. Aluminum will oxidize which is essentially what rust is, it's Iron Oxide which we commonly call rust.

Aluminum will in fact oxidize, just ask anyone who owns an airplane if their plane rusts. They'll know what you mean and they'll answer "yes".

[Sparco]

Sorry Sparco, but aluminum doesn't rust. But yea I know what u mean. I like your post good info.

Tell ya what, get your breech rod wet and let it sit for a few weeks unattended. Then report your findings. :evilgrin:

[Vantage_TeS]

The grips will seal your gun pretty well. They are after all, rubber. You would have to dive INTO a puddle and then hold your gun UNDERWATER for a while before anything bad would happen.

As for the rest of the gun, paint and water is a no no. Everything else it metal. Dry it off when you are done.

[Major Morningwood]

Iron oxide requires the presence of Iron, which is steel, not aluminum. Iron is FE for ferrous on the periodic chart which is a long way off from Al which is aluminum. Aluminum does oxidize, however, aluminum will not become pitted as much as iron does. If aluminum rusted, seems to me there would be a heck of a lot of aluminum fishing boats sitting at the bottom of a lake somewhere. The oxide is merely a coating due to electical currents in the air causing galvanic corrosion. Now if you get copper in contact with aluminum in the presence of oxygen then you will have a nasty combination. If you are talking about the breach rod being rusty if left in water for any period of time, that rod is made of steel that has been chromed. Chroming is the electroplating process similar to annodizing, however if weakens the substrate (the steel) and therefore it opens it up to damage from the environment. Chrome is a weak plate which pits the underlying metal and any nick on the chrome will begin the rusting process. I don't believe you will have any problems with rust, even the screws are stainless steel. If you want to find out if something will rust, take a magnet to it. If the magnet sticks it will rust. Stainless steel and aluminum are not magnetic.

[Bigal1]

Iron oxide requires the presence of Iron, which is steel, not aluminum. Iron is FE for ferrous on the periodic chart which is a long way off from Al which is aluminum. Aluminum does oxidize, however, aluminum will not become pitted as much as iron does. If aluminum rusted, seems to me there would be a heck of a lot of aluminum fishing boats sitting at the bottom of a lake somewhere. The oxide is merely a coating due to electical currents in the air causing galvanic corrosion. Now if you get copper in contact with aluminum in the presence of oxygen then you will have a nasty combination. If you are talking about the breach rod being rusty if left in water for any period of time, that rod is made of steel that has been chromed. Chroming is the electroplating process similar to annodizing, however if weakens the substrate (the steel) and therefore it opens it up to damage from the environment. Chrome is a weak plate which pits the underlying metal and any nick on the chrome will begin the rusting process. I don't believe you will have any problems with rust, even the screws are stainless steel. If you want to find out if something will rust, take a magnet to it. If the magnet sticks it will rust. Stainless steel and aluminum are not magnetic.


As I said above, "rust" is Iron Oxide. Correct, Aluminum doesn't have iron in it so technically it's not rust but it will oxidize.

[shaq787]

i would suggest against playing in the rain - its just not fun. i had to do it in a tournament wih my 03 speed, the rain was flowing off my visor. i will say that it was cool seeing the ball cuting through the rain and the rain flys out of the porting on the barrel. but if you really want to play you can try putting some greace around the edge of the grips to make a better seal -not sure if that had been mentioned.

[454casull]

Well, I think Sparco is correct. Aluminum will oxidize which is essentially what rust is, it's Iron Oxide which we commonly call rust.

Aluminum will in fact oxidize, just ask anyone who owns an airplane if their plane rusts. They'll know what you mean and they'll answer "yes".

Most airplanes are made out of aluminum for a reason, because it has excellent corrosion resistance. Sure it will still corrode over time, and other things play a factor like being by the sea, etc. But if an airplane were made out of steel we would be in trouble. I have flown many airplanes older than I am that look excellent strucurally. I hope any pilot beyond a private pilot would have enough knowledge about their aircraft to tell u it doesnt rust. Anyway a flashback from a previous Chemistry class made me post that about the rust. Didn't mean to step on any toes. But facts are facts. Steel=rust / Aluminum = corrosion. Knowledge is the key. Also dry gun = good, Wet gun = bad. :stooges: :cheers:

[Bigal1]

I think airplanes are made of aluminum because of it's relatively high strength/weight ratio. And it turns out they are much more corrosion resistant than carbon steel.

I agree with you aluminum corrodes. that's the important point. :cheers:

[Xerxes]

alright, well, ill take it anyway and if it rains ill just use one of my old guns so there is no risk.......and i didnt go from a spyder to a speed, ive had an ebladed autococker for the past year or so...spyder is just my cheap backup.

[Ronin Samurai]

dude if u dont wanna ruin ur angel play with the spyder, if u still have it.

[pimpinsaylor]

dude if u dont wanna ruin ur angel play with the spyder, if u still have it.
or you can use your old e-blade lol