Hammerhead barrel

[Bigal1]

Tried the new hammerhead (battlestix) barrel this weekend. I can't speak to accuracy and I know that's a topic of interest.

I can say that I did have a couple of barrel breaks and it does very clearly seem to clear much faster and with almost no impact on subsequent shots.

The most significant thing I found was that folks (ie on more than one occasion) would come up to me after a game and say "I could see your gun pointed at me and I could see the ball coming but I never heard you shoot. It's pretty darned loud to the user (me) but the porting is such that it sends all the noise back towards the shooter and not down the field.

[El Pirata]

You got a link the the hammerhead kit? Preferably a manufacturer's page?

[Bigal1]

Try this:

http://www.hammerheadpaintball.com/main/barrels.htm

If you go to this page and click on the tab at the top called "barrels" you'll see some stats they show that supports their claim of a very accurate barrel.

[El Pirata]

Cool thanks.

[Bigal1]

I also noticed there's a graphic that speaks to noise downrange but the chart scale is illegible.

[Trigga Nometry]

Man, I can't wait for my kit to get here! I ordered a HH Battle Stikxx kit 2 weeks ago and also was able to get my hands on a dust black 7-piece Scepter that is also due in the end of next week. I'll be posting a comparison of the two kits as soon as my G7 is in my filthy hands and well broken in.

For a GREAT deal on a HH kit, go to http://www.scenarioball.com/hh.html

That is a legit deal. I spoke with HH about it.

[Bigal1]

what's the price?

I got the barrel (14 inch), five mini-fins (stainless) the lithium grease, a ball sizer, and the case for $138.00

[Bigal1]

what's the price?

I got the barrel (14 inch), five mini-fins (stainless) the lithium grease, a ball sizer, and the case for $138.00
guess i could of just checked your link but I'm apparently too lazy to do a SEARCH!

[Trigga Nometry]

You got a super deal on your HH. Any chance you could post a couple pics?

The Scepter Kits have come down considerable too. CHECK THEM OUT HERE (http://www.hotshotpaintball.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Offset=9&Category_Code=BARRELS-ANGEL&Previous_Stack_Depth=1&Previous_Stack_1=0).

[Bigal1]

yep. have to go back to work today but I'll get some pics tonight.

[Bigal1]

ok. I usually have very low success in getting pics to post to this forum but here I go.

[Bigal1]

as i suspected. i uploaded two pics and only one shows up. I tried to upload it again but I got an error that I had already attached this file to this thread. True. but it doesn't show up.

[Bigal1]

well, cancel comments above, both pics showup now....

i dunno.

[Trigga Nometry]

Cool! Thanks for the pics Bigal1

[PouringPaintOn]

Hey bigal, how heavy is the barrel? I'm shooting an SM-1 Orbium 3 right now and it's extremely light. A little too light. I was wondering about this barrel kit for a while. I was thinking of getting the hammerhead or the SM-1 but I didn't realize that the SM-1 is so light. I might pick me one of these up if it's heavier.

[Bigal1]

The barrel itself weighs 4.75 ounces. The mini-fin or insert weights 2.125 ounces. The mini-fin is stainless steel. I hear there are plans to produce the fins in aluminum which would make it lighter than 2.125 oz.

Total weight barrel plus fin 6.875 ounces.

[gutshot]

what's the price?

I got the barrel (14 inch), five mini-fins (stainless) the lithium grease, a ball sizer, and the case for $138.00

Hey Bigal; Hope you will post some results after you get the chance to try it out. We are trying a stiffi switch kit that is doing real well, but man, the HH sounds great if it works like they advertise. Thanks, great info. Good luck

[Ronin Samurai]

man i saw the hamerhead barrels at the paintball expo. i didnt believe them until i saw the video, they are seriously crazy. im going to buy the five fin barrel kit, when i can raise the money

[Bigal1]

Hey Bigal; Hope you will post some results after you get the chance to try it out. We are trying a stiffi switch kit that is doing real well, but man, the HH sounds great if it works like they advertise. Thanks, great info. Good luck


looking for your input on how to do a test. I'm mean, just moving the gun a tudge while firing as well as wind effect will both affect the accuracy results.

[Ronin Samurai]

anyone know where i can buy a hammerhead 14" barrel with the 5 fins for less than 204?

[PouringPaintOn]

anyone know where i can buy a hammerhead 14" barrel with the 5 fins for less than 204?

Did u read the first page of this thread?

[Ronin Samurai]

yea but that site has it in 12.5 inches, not 14.

[Bigal1]

in my case (and I assume it's the same for all) I could have bought any length barrel I wanted and the price would have been the same. So my guess is that you just have to tell them the size barrel you want.

[Bigal1]

anyone know where i can buy a hammerhead 14" barrel with the 5 fins for less than 204?
where are you located?

[Ronin Samurai]

in south cali, i waas also wondring would a 14 inch hammerhead be better than a 12.5 inch hammerhead for a angel speed 05

[PouringPaintOn]

in south cali, i waas also wondring would a 14 inch hammerhead be better than a 12.5 inch hammerhead for a angel speed 05

Depends, if you play front, mid, or back.

[Ronin Samurai]

I play back and mid

[Bigal1]

I can probably get you a good deal (no, I wouldn't make any money off it) from the guy I bought mine from. I would say that the price for you is going to be a little higher and I know you would have to pay shipping from NC to CA.

[Ronin Samurai]

Thanks, that would be awesoem if i could get a deal. ok ill see what deal he has. is it for a 14 inch with the five fins? oh and which one is better for back players, 14 or 12? and i actually decided that because i live in south cali, i dont need the smaller bore fins. (it never gets cold down here) so im looking ofr a barrel kit with the 3 fins. 0.688, .690, .693.

[PouringPaintOn]

Hey bigal does ur friend have 16in hammerhead barrel kits? also do they have SS fins?

[Trigga Nometry]

I just got my HH kit in. Of course since I sold the Speed, I haven't tried the kit out yet because I am still waiting for my G7 to arrive.

The HH kit does look great though. It is certainly not cheaply made. Top shelf machining.

I'll also be getting in my dust black 7-peice Scepter kit too with the G7. Can't wait to compare them against one another.

[Bigal1]

Thanks, that would be awesoem if i could get a deal. ok ill see what deal he has. is it for a 14 inch with the five fins? oh and which one is better for back players, 14 or 12? and i actually decided that because i live in south cali, i dont need the smaller bore fins. (it never gets cold down here) so im looking ofr a barrel kit with the 3 fins. 0.688, .690, .693.
I should see him tomorrow so I'll get back by first of next week.

[Bigal1]

Hey bigal does ur friend have 16in hammerhead barrel kits? also do they have SS fins?
Right now, fins for angel barrels only come in stainless steel. there is a plan to make them in aluminum for angels but none available yet.

I'm pretty sure he can get any length barrel you want. Pretty much what you see on the website is what he can get.

[Bigal1]

Thanks, that would be awesoem if i could get a deal. ok ill see what deal he has. is it for a 14 inch with the five fins? oh and which one is better for back players, 14 or 12? and i actually decided that because i live in south cali, i dont need the smaller bore fins. (it never gets cold down here) so im looking ofr a barrel kit with the 3 fins. 0.688, .690, .693.
PM me with an email address and I'll connect you to him.

[Ronin Samurai]

any u guys know diffference between battle stix and the pro series hammerhead barrels?

[Bigal1]

just thought I'd update you all. I used the hammerhead today and it is truly phenomenal the way it cleans the barrel after a break. I had a break today and I took the barrel off and it was clean as a whistle.

Happy to add that throughout the day, I think I only had no more than two barrel breaks.

[Bigal1]

any u guys know diffference between battle stix and the pro series hammerhead barrels?
the difference is only on the outside. the barrels are the same on the inside. so it's a style thing only.

[Trigga Nometry]

Hey Bigal1 - Just wondering if you followed Hammerhead's suggestion to use the barrel at 285fps or if you used the barrel kit at a different velocity? I just noticed that the letter that came with my kit mentions that the barrel works best at 285fps.

[Bigal1]

hmmm. no letter in my kit.

I just do the best I can to get my speed under the field limit of 295. just a slight movement of the allen wrench results in a huge change in fps.


so, no. i didn't know 285 was the recommended setting. today I had mine pretty much locked in at 295. probably not too much of a difference from 285.

[Ronin Samurai]

which type of hammerhead barrel would look better with a blue angel speed 05? the batttel stix or the pro series?

[Bigal1]

which type of hammerhead barrel would look better with a blue angel speed 05? the batttel stix or the pro series?
it's your call I think. didn't see my friend this weekend but I sent him an email. STill trying to hook you two up. Give me another day.

[Bigal1]

Hey bigal does ur friend have 16in hammerhead barrel kits? also do they have SS fins?
If you're interested, PM me with an email address and I'll hook you up to the supplier.

[Ronin Samurai]

yea i sent u my email already big al. but i think maybe the battle stix would be better, cuz my team colors aare blacvk blue, and a black and blue guin would be nice

[Trigga Nometry]

hmmm. no letter in my kit.

I just do the best I can to get my speed under the field limit of 295. just a slight movement of the allen wrench results in a huge change in fps.


so, no. i didn't know 285 was the recommended setting. today I had mine pretty much locked in at 295. probably not too much of a difference from 285.Just in case you were interested:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/HHLetter.jpg

[Bigal1]

yea i sent u my email already big al. but i think maybe the battle stix would be better, cuz my team colors aare blacvk blue, and a black and blue guin would be nice
did you get the email I sent you with Chad's address? Sent it earlier today. It's got prices and stuff.

Just tell Chad you want battlestix. Price is the same regardless.

[Bigal1]

Just in case you were interested:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/TriggaNometry/HHLetter.jpg
That's interesting. I didn't get no letter....

Anyway, I guess I'll try and tweak it in to 285. What's 10fps among tippmans and Smart Part Ion players... They'll still think I'm shooting 310 or 320.

[Bigal1]

And I wish I could get my pics to post like yours. I can't even get mine to show up but that's a different thread.

[Ronin Samurai]

ok thanks, im think im going to get the black pro series, i like the ribbing it looks cool

[Bigal1]

ok thanks, im think im going to get the black pro series, i like the ribbing it looks cool
almost sounds like we're talking about condoms. read the quote here... :devil1:

[Ronin Samurai]

yea i wrote that then deleted it. then wrote it again, then deleted it, then stoped carring and wrote it again. so much for censorship

[Ronin Samurai]

big al will the kit come with a carrryign case? i wanted the 14" 3 fin pro series kit

[Bigal1]

1. yes
2. did you tell Chad what size barrel you wanted?
3. You also have to tell chad what three inserts or fins you want.

[Ronin Samurai]

yea i told him i wanted a 14" pro series barrel black with 5 fins kit

[Ronin Samurai]

actually, me and my team mates were talkign and cmae to the conclusion that if u live in south cali, were it never gets cold i dont need the 5 fin kit. ill get the 3 fin kit. do u guys think that i might need the 5 fin kit even if i live in S. Cali

[JTp8ntballer12]

no, just get small medium large.... i live in socal and ive never had problems with any of the .690 barrels i have (4)... i always use em and they always work

[Ronin Samurai]

anyone here actually have the hammerhead kit in their possession? i need to know if its good, the peopel at my local store say its expensive and not that great, is this true?

[Trigga Nometry]

anyone here actually have the hammerhead kit in their possession? i need to know if its good, the peopel at my local store say its expensive and not that great, is this true?I actually have an entire kit right now but I haven't used it yet. Still waiting for my G7 to arrive.

I can tell you that by looking at the kit, the machining quality is excellent. Now that is rather subjective. I'll give you more information when I actually get to use it.

I plan on comparing the HH Battle Stikxx kit to the Powerlyte Scepter Kit that I just got too. Looks sweet....dust black.

[Bigal1]

I'm using it. I agree, it looks great. Looks should not be the primary reason for buying though. But it does look good.

Barrel clears following a break are practically not even noticeable because the barrel clears really well following a break.

People down range of me say they can't hear me shoot. But there is a lot of noise ported back to me from the barrel. That's a plus I think.

[Bigal1]

Just thought I'd post a link to a well-written article concerning paintball/barrel testing.

http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=7362

[Trigga Nometry]

Just thought I'd post a link to a well-written article concerning paintball/barrel testing.

http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=7362That is a great article but just be a little cautious because it is written by the head of the Hammerhead Marketing Group. That does not mean there isn't any valuable information there, it is just worth noting.

[Bigal1]

However, two important points worth mentioning from the article:

1. The most important factor affecting ball accuracy is paint quality.
2. Paint of lower quality, according to the article, has less of an impact on ball accuracy because of the manner in which the ball deforms in the barrel as it engages the rifling.

[Ronin Samurai]

why would u want spin on the ball anyways, that will only cause it to spin off in random directions.

[454casull]

How is the accuracy of the hammerhead. That is the only thing I am interested in. Big AL is that kit pretty accurate, what were you shooting before? I want one of these kits, but would like a little more input on accuracy. I dont need a review or test just your gut feeling as to how accurate this thing is. thanks alot. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[Ronin Samurai]

its accurate if u use good paint, if u use crappy paint or rental paint then forget it. buy a freak if u constantly use different types of paiont. the hammerhead's rilfling works on paint that is good. once u get ahammerhead, then forget buying the 2000 for 15 bucks type of paint.

[454casull]

Ronin have u shot the Hammerhead? What is your personal experience with the accuracy, with good paint. I need testimonials that are non biased based on people who have used this barrel or own this barrel to justify buying the hammerhead barrel kit. I know most of the people on this site are for the most part reliable. Hopefully ill get some good, reliable, and positive+ feedback on this barrel kit. Thanks everyone. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :bigok:

[Ronin Samurai]

no my neighbopr has. and im saying wat hammerhead says. they say that yu cant shoot crappy paint through it u need good consistent paint, none of that one ball is .675 and the next ball .691

[gc82000]

That is just it PBalls will never be as cosistent as we would like them to be. if they were we would not be looking at barrel kits to help us improve accuracy, now would we? I have shot the HH barrel system and did not like them at all. yeah the paint I used was not he bes but I am not able to go out and drop 60-70 dollars a weekend to get the best paint. And I live on Guam humidity is always in the high 90's if not in the 100's I can use three different inserts in one day just because of swell. The HH kit might work in other drier places but not on Guam get something else if you want a reliable kit.