PSP/CFOA software update 3.9

[BoB]

Here is the latest update. As everyone is aware Ken (Performance Angel) and I (FixMyAngel.Com) have been working exclusively with WDP for the PSP/CFOA compliant software option for the 05 Speed and Angel 4 Fly. The 05 software has been completed and we are done with the testing, it works great and there is no grey area. Ken or I will post on Monday which other Warranty Centers will have the licensing and programming to offer this new software option. Cost for the custom software will be $25 plus any associated shipping costs. Ken and I will also be offering the custom programming at Huntington Beach so you can save on the shipping fee's. Once the board has been flashed, the new software option will indicated by Ver 4 or 3.9

Bob

[BoB]

Currently on the PSP/CFOA software for the 05 Speed, the Demo mode is removed so we can flash the optional tournament software. This mode will turn on/off the same way you would with Demo. Until we see and test the Fly PSP.CFOA software, I will not be able to comment. As far as 3.7/8 they are the same beta software except 8 has demo mode. Our 3.9 software will be based off the 3.5/6 which is the factory approved software and not a beta. 3.7/8 was never a finished software but a work in progress and certified for public use.

[BoB]

4.0 software replaces 3.0 and lower on the 05 Speed taking away the highest TR or demo mode (6th light). 3.9 will replace Demo mode in any previous version of the Fly software. 3.9 will be based on the 3.6 software engine and previous modes associated with the software excluding demo. In both cases the mode which is removed is replaced with the PSP/CFOA 15bps ramping software. Details for sending in for the optional upgrade will be posted as soon as Ken and I can sort out which warranty centers are going to be involved.

[KEN CRANE]

WDP Exclusive Warranty/Service Center
FixMyAngel.Com
Predator Paintball Reloaded
"Angel specialization, customization, not bastardization"



Ok people here is the scoop on the new 15 bps software for cfoa/psp for the 05 speed. As of today you can send your o5 speed gun or board only in for the upgrade. This upgrade allows you to change the mode into a psp or cfoa mode. The 05 upgrade has NO performance changes or enhancements. You will loose demo mode and TR mode signified by light 6. The replacement software version will become 4.0 for the 05 speed. This is ramping software that has 3 semi pulls and then ramps to 15.4 bps. This is cool software just to have even if you do not play in either league. We have noticed that smaller paintball leagues are adopting these rules so it might be worth being proactive rather than reactive.

The software has an update cost of 25.00 plus return shipping. It is necessary to charge for this as it was very expensive to have this code written. This is above and beyond any normal “upgrade” that we provide for free.

The fly software will be ready at the end of the week and we will post it as soon as we receive it. The fly software will be based on software version 3.6 (g-7 platform) and will be the most current update. It will carry the 3.9 designation. This will also be 25.00 plus return shipping.

As of today Monday 3/7/05 www.performanceangel.com www.fixmyangel.com www.impactpaintball.com www.angelservicecenter.com www.angelparts.com www.premiumpaintball.com www.badlandspaintball.com www.cobrapaintball.com

PLEASE! Do not call WDP asking for the upgrade installed on your gun at no charge as they cannot help you. This upgrade will be the same price for all including dealers. No other information other than what we have provided is available. You will receive an instruction sheet on how the modes are operated as there are some adjustments you can now make in your rate of fire with the eyes on or off in the new modes up to 15.4 bps. Let’s try and not make anymore out of this than necessary. Basically what we are asking is don’t clutter the thread with stupid questions that don’t need to be asked. We think we have hit on everything so send them on in to your favorite shop and remember to go to that site, print a service request form and fill all your information.

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[Raoul]

Yes Ken and Bob, thanx for all your work on this!

Anyway, I'll ask the first stupid question...

You stated that *for 05 Speed owners*, there are no performance enhancements, but does that also hold true for us Fly owners?

What I mean is, will going from the 3.5 Mode1 to the new 3.9's Mode1 give me any performance enhancement?

[pimpinsaylor]

well its good we have these upgrades

[HIOCTANE]

this is great and $25 is nothing compare to some other people has to pay over $100 for new boards

[TeamPanic17]

ken Larry from CFOA said it has to be 15.0 and most people are useing 14.75bps do you think 15.4 will work and no penaltys envoled? Thanks for all you work buy the way. you guys are the greatest.

[-Z-]

My one and only stupid question, I have an A4 non-fly, will the Fly software upgrade work on that or will that have to be a different software upgrade? Thanks for the information.

Z

[KEN CRANE]

ken Larry from CFOA said it has to be 15.0 and most people are useing 14.75bps do you think 15.4 will work and no penaltys envoled? Thanks for all you work buy the way. you guys are the greatest.

yep it will its actualy 15 bps and you can set the bounce

[KEN CRANE]

My one and only stupid question, I have an A4 non-fly, will the Fly software upgrade work on that or will that have to be a different software upgrade? Thanks for the information.

Z

different software and no date set yet for this version yet

[dragon32]

do u still have a regular 31 bps in semi mode without ramping
very interested in getting it but my fields i play don't all agree with ramping
thanks so much

[Saber]

is it free if you have a force fly?

[KEN CRANE]

do u still have a regular 31 bps in semi mode without ramping
very interested in getting it but my fields i play don't all agree with ramping
thanks so much

yes you still have the other modes

[Raoul]

You missed my question Ken....

You stated that *for 05 Speed owners*, there are no performance enhancements, but does that also hold true for us Fly owners?

What I mean is, will going from the 3.5 Mode1 to the new 3.9's Mode1 give me any performance gain?

[JeffW]

Yep, this is too cool. My Fly is on a UPS jet right now for the upgrade( hopefully the software will be ready Friday) and a mag mod and lazer eyes. Ken is the man. I so glad I won't to play w/Dye/Proto products in the next CFOA. :cheers: :fanboy:

[dragon32]

thanks ken i will get the job done putti my trust in ya! thnx a bunch

[-Z-]

different software and no date set yet for this version yet

Thnaks for the quick reply, hope it comes out soon(have to play Orlando with it)

Z

[JBliss]

I know it was posted some where that the 3.9 software would be available at HB. But do you know if anyone will be doing them at the orlando open in april.

Thanks
Jason

[pimpinsaylor]

Will force owners get to keep our demo mode or will the board be able to handle it?

[crashdan]

all owners will lose demo mode

[nastylax8]

ya, but that doesnt matter. As long as we can have the 15 bps cap

[KEN CRANE]

ya, but that doesnt matter. As long as we can have the 15 bps cap

and you will, as we speak i am sitting on my couch flashing and reflashing learning the ins and outs of the software. woo hoo

[Team Venom]

So we will be able to change the rate of fire it ramps to right. Like put it lower then 15 or up to 20 kindof like the imfamous and dynasty boards?

It sounds like it is one ramp mode only which is 15.4 only. No raising that number past 15.4bps.

[Angel4boy]

so basically you give up your demo mode for a 15.4 bps cap mode for only $25..or am i missing something ??

[Team Venom]

so basically you give up your demo mode for a 15.4 bps cap mode for only $25..or am i missing something ??
Correct! A capped ramped mode.

[Angel4boy]

i also heard that i would lose a TR setting ..this true also ??

[Team Venom]

My software version the highest TR setting is demo mode. So I wouldn't lose anything. Not sure what the highest TR setting is on other versions.

[Angel4boy]

can you restate that...that confused me..

[Team Venom]

The highest TR setting on my 5peed is Demo mode. It is not an actual TR setting. I am not sure if other software versions that did not have the demo mode had one extra TR setting or not. Is that clearer?

[Angel4boy]

i did not know that demo MODE was a TR setting or are you referring to how the gun goes crazy when its on the highest in-bounce (makes much bounce) setting...

[Team Venom]

Exactly, it won't fire with a ball in the chamber. Try it once. Turn it up to the highest setting and it will fire with out paint. Quite crazily I might add. The manual doesn't say anything about it and the first time I turned mine all the way up I thought my gun was f%#*'ed up! There are software versions that does not have the demo mode I heard.

[MrBoB]

I'm going to HB and buying a new 05 speed. Will the speed already have the software on it or do I have to fork over $25 to get it done? Either way Im deffinatly getting it.

[Little Dave]

Hello, today i went to cobra and got the software for the 05 speed. I play psp and I know that when it ramps and you let go the gun must stop. On my 05 speed after i let go it still adds 2 or 3 shots. I am pretty sure this is illegal in psp.. so whats going on?

[BoB]

You may want to re-read the PSP rules. In short the rules allow for 3 shots per pull no more. With this in mind, there is no way to allow a max of 3 shots per pull and still have the marker not shoot any paintballs after the last trigger pull.

[Robboards]

How do you switch between the different modes ie ramping and not ramping?

[htownkilla]

so is 3.9 better than 3.7, or is 3.9 the psp, cfoa stuff?

[Angel4boy]

so the mode on my 3.6 angel fly that ramps isnt legal ???(please dont hurt me) if not then why ..the manual says its capped at 15

[xcarnx]

You may want to re-read the PSP rules. In short the rules allow for 3 shots per pull no more. With this in mind, there is no way to allow a max of 3 shots per pull and still have the marker not shoot any paintballs after the last trigger pull.


Now I know this is from the CFOA site, but I have an issue with the thinking on this you guys have.

Straight from the rules of the CFOA:

d) TEST 4 – “Runaway Guns” – All markers will be checked for “runaway” triggers. The marker will be fired rapidly. The testing judge, rapidly firing the marker will suddenly cease to pull the trigger. Any marker that continues to fire while the trigger is NOT being pulled will be deemed a “Runaway Gun” and will not be allowed on the field.

I know that the Proto's. DM4's, and Timmy's have all fixed this issue. Why is the best gun on the market. The one I paid a ton of money for incapable of doing this. I know for a fact that these guns can stop on a dime because I have played with all three of them in practices and such to understand what I am playing against. It sounds to me this was rushed, and on top of this we pay extra for it. I don't mind paying for it, but I do mind paying just to find out that I still cant use my gun. Do the Fly's have the same issue as the speed? I am assuming they do, but want to make sure before I have to find a new gun.

[BoB]

PSP mode is not the same as the CFOA mode/setting. PSP allows for extra shots hence the 3 semi shots and then on the 4th allowing for no more than 3 shots per pull there after. The CFOA stops when the trigger is no longer pulled. We need to compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges. Two different rules, two different requirements.

[Sparco]

Bob, perhaps some more clarification is needed so we all understand. The mode that is being put into these boards, is PSP complaint or CFOA complaint? Maybe it's both, my board is on it's way back from Ken.

It sounds like xcarnx understood the mode to be legal in both leagues and not just the CFOA. Or did I misunderstand that as well.

[BoB]

Yes, there is a mode for PSP and there is mode/setting for the CFOA. Both modes/settings meet their respective league requirements.

[Mike Smith]

You didn't really think they would get league specific programming done and not make it compliant, did you?

Much <3 for the MT's

[TeamPanic17]

Ken have you sent any angel boards back yet? Seeing if i will have it by CFOA the 19th.

[MM77X]

pi.moon
WDP Master Tech

Registered: May 2001
Location: Sac Town

3.9

mode 1: semi auto with eyes off capped at 15bps
With eyes on MROF is now adjustable up to 30bps
CFOA mode = MROF set to 15bps and tr1

mode 2, 4, 5 and Demo: same as before

mode 3: PSP mode 3 semi pulls then 4th pull 3 shots per pull

[HIOCTANE]

How Do You Adjust The Mrof

[05 speed]

i want to set up my 05 speed please send me an e-mail on any new software anyone please ivan2214@bellsouth.net

[Raoul]

pi.moon
WDP Master Tech

Registered: May 2001
Location: Sac Town

3.9

mode 1: semi auto with eyes off capped at 15bps
With eyes on MROF is now adjustable up to 30bps
CFOA mode = MROF set to 15bps and tr1

mode 2, 4, 5 and Demo: same as before

mode 3: PSP mode 3 semi pulls then 4th pull 3 shots per pull


This is the Fly software?

[BoB]

That's it.

[JTp8ntballer12]

if i have a a4(non fly) but then got it fly'd i can get this right?

*a little of topic, but will i be able to get the magnet trigger mod thing done at hb when/if i get my board flashed?

[HIOCTANE]

THAT IS RIGHT. :cheers:

[BoB]

We should be able to do the mag mod to your Angel 4. I just need to remember to bring parts.

[JTp8ntballer12]

please remember then :) cus ill definatly be stopping by....

[Infuse05]

hey guys the only way for me to get that upgrade is to send my gun out?
and will it be on PSP mode 1 2 3 then ramp mode?????

[KEN CRANE]

We should be able to do the mag mod to your Angel 4. I just need to remember to bring parts.


i brought them

[TeamPanic17]

ken is anyone going to be getting fly boards back from you before cfoa. I need to no in case i need to get another gun.

[wulfekuhler]

For 05 speeds, will the gun stop shooting immediatly after i stop pulling the trigger, following cfoa rules or are 2-3 balls still shot.

I understand that the fly has both the cfoa and nppl options but i am not sure about the speed.

[grumpyballer62]

after the first three shots, will it ramp, in that you must shoot a certain BPS in order to maintain the 15.4, or is it that you just hold the trigger in for full-auto like the TADAO'd Timmies? How exactly does it work? Thanks in advance.

Grumpy

[HIOCTANE]

I think after three pulls it ramps to 15bps but you have to keep pulling, I could be wromg

[JBliss]

you are correct

[JeffW]

you are correct
I received my fly back today with revision 3.9. I guess I got my hopes up a little. I was hoping,praying that the CFOA/PSP modes would shoot like a DM4/5,Proto, or Matrix with the Tadeo board. With those guns on trigger pull four will ramp to 15bps with minimal effort/trigger pulls. My fly in CFOA or PSP mode, it really doesn't feel any different than normal with the exeption that is caps @15bps. Oh well, I guess its legal at least. :notsure:

[HIOCTANE]

did it feel any different, did it ramp

[JeffW]

did it feel any different, did it ramp
In Mode 1, TR1, which is the CFOA 15bps cap, no it doesn't feel any different other than it has a 15 bps cap. Now, mode 3, the PSP mode thats a different story. After three pull it will ramp like a DM4/5 with a Tadeo board. There will be a shot after the trigger is released. And with my trigger setup, sometimes it will ramps on the second pull. But if you give it 3 definite pulls it wont until pull 4. Its only when I "feather" the trigger does it sometime ramp on the second or third pull.

[HIOCTANE]

thanks I sent my fly yesterday to have the sofware upgraded but when you said that it did noy make a difference i got dissapointed,but thanks for making it clear

[RatJ313]

why would mode 3 matter when the others dont matter? its just a different process of firing to me. im getting the euro conversion and from what ive heard u only get one mode so i would just put the tr all the way up for more bounce and do it like that. but i would rather have it ramp on the 2nd or 3rd pull.

[Benfrain]

I do't know about 3.9 as I am using LP 4.0 software. But with that Mode 1 remains normal semi but as Ken says earlier, Mode 3 ramps like a good 'en! Three semi pulls and then the fourth pull fires three shots as does each consecutive pull after that. If you stop pulling for a moment it reverts back to the three semi shots.

It's very easy to keep it going at 15BPS ramped :)

[JTp8ntballer12]

so... havent been able to make it out yet... but tomororw......

to get the new software and the magnet mod, do i come to the wdp tech booth (prolly inside the players area) or the angel vendor booth? im jsut asking becasue at san diego the vendor booth couldnt do anything it seemed..

[smarti]

want to know if on mode1 tr1 it is capped at 15 bps, so will mode1 tr2 will the bps be capped at 30??

[rotaryknight]

On the new 4.0 for an 05 Speed there is now an extra menu option. A mulit color blinking option. Now from what I was told this is the CFOA menu. What does each increase on that menu do?

Also when I first got my marker back with the 4.0 it was capped on semi. A very low cap. Now I was told that I have to put the CFOA menu at it's highest LED to get an uncapped ROF in semi is that true?

With TR1 and CFOA1 my marker would not bounce and felt like a 10 bps cap. Someone needs to post new instructions for this new software.

[smarti]

i went to HB today and got my fly flashed to lp4.0,
the techs there were all really nice,they were really busy but were able to accomidate me fairly quickly. one thing they did not do was to fully insrtuct me on what modes this program added(i know, i should have asked more questions,but they were busy.)
i hope that one of the techs can post up detailed instructions on this new software.
just my 2cents.

[rotaryknight]

Exactly. I had mine flashed on friday. Played with it on saturday....got mad. Had to go back to HB again on Sunday. Waste of my time. I have one thing to say and that Chris from Cobra is one of the nicest guys. Helped my by taking my markers in to the tech area and was very sympathetic to my needs.

[JTp8ntballer12]

heh... i came today and i couldnt get into the tech area, but i got JC's attention and he was nice enough to give my gun to the techs over the fence haha. just got the magnet mod done, not enuf $$ for the 4.0 thing, but its awesome and im loving it, thanks to the tech that did my gun, it shoots great and its nice that it didnt take to long too since i had to wait on the other side of the fence lol.

i guess ill get 3.9/4.0 at san diego :/

[hell's angel]

I got lucky, Owen at WDP told me to just walk over to the tech tent and request the upgrade. I happened to walk through without anyone questioning me. My friend tried it but got stopped, he had to have someone take it over for him. Ken flashed mine, I tried it out at home, and it was awesome!

[JTp8ntballer12]

i tried to walk thru but they said no :(

im not sure who did mine (dont know what ken looks like) but they did a good job, thanks to whoever was woking the wdp tech booth today.

i didnt find paki for my tshirt tho.... bummer.

and im dissapointed i dont have the 4.0! ... theres always the next event (in like 6 months)

[rotaryknight]

No master techs can tell us what the each of the LED on the CFOA settings represent?

[BoB]

No master techs can tell us what the each of the LED on the CFOA settings represent?

CFOA mode is simple. CFOA compliant mode = Mode1, TR1 and MROF of 15. The new mode with the 3 flashing lights is the MROF setting. The first light in the MROF setting is 15bps, if you bump it up one then it is 18bps and so on ending at 30bps.

Bob

[rotaryknight]

YES! Thanks for the info Bob. It would be nice if there were updated instructions on some of the sites to let people who purchase this upgrade know what is what.

[KEN CRANE]

CFOA mode is simple. CFOA compliant mode = Mode1, TR1 and MROF of 15. The new mode with the 3 flashing lights is the MROF setting. The first light in the MROF setting is 15bps, if you bump it up one then it is 18bps and so on ending at 30bps.

Bob


15 bps 18 bps 21 bps 23bps ect. each bump

[smarti]

ken, what about the fly 4.0 settings?
thanks

[rotaryknight]

Ken also before the software update the my 05 Speed would rip. Given it wasn't legal but it was fun and it would rip.

Now with the new software with a TR 5 and MROF at 6 the marker is still slow. It won't bounce one bit. I honestly would rather have the version 3 software if that is the case. The Version 3 was fun.

[hell's angel]

15 bps 18 bps 21 bps 23bps ect. each bump

How is the PSP and CFOA modes accessed on the 05 Speed? I didn't receive any kind of instruction sheet after you flashed my board but my friend told me just to set the trigger offset to 6 LEDs (lowest trigger snubbing). Now, after quickly tapping only twice, it ramps and continues to shoot more than 3 shots after releasing the trigger. Although it is very fast, it seems more like it is just bouncing than any controllability these firing modes are supposed to offer. Is this not the PSP/CFOA mode? If you can provide this for me, I would like a breakdown of the menus to access these modes for the 05 Speed with version 4.0 software.

Thanks

[KEN CRANE]

robert and i will finish the tech sheet for the modes and access to them today. we were slammed at hunnington beach and didnt get a chance to talk to everyone about it. the software does not change any function of your gun at all so its a setting that slowed the rof and we will explain it to you. set tight. thanks
Thanks[/QUOTE]

p.s we didnt get home until yesterday so we are both playing catch up

[KEN CRANE]

Ok Here You Go !

Software directions for psp/cfoa modes

First, the major change.the rof has become adjustable when you have the eyes on with both the fly and 05 speed. When the eyes are off it has a capped default of 15bps. To access the rof on the 05 speed you tab thru the black program button on the bottom right of the board until all 3 colors (red,yellow,orange) flash rapidly on the top indicator led. Each pull of the trigger on the 05 while in rof adds 3 bps from the stock 15 up to 31. The rof setting method is the same as it came from the factory on the fly.


Psp/cfoa fly version designated by 4.0
----------------------------------------------

Cfoa setting: place gun in mode 1 place tr setting at 1 set mrof to 15 bps. This will make
you cfoa legal. Want it to do a little more? Bump the tr up or the mrof up but this is not legal.

Psp setting: mode 3 and tr at 1 mrof at 15 .this will make you psp legal. same here, want to go a little faster ? bump the tr up. This will make it faster but Not legal.


Psp/cfoa 05 speed version designated by 4
--------------------------------------------------

Cfoa setting: tr 1 mrof 1 light. this makes you cfoa legal. Want it faster? Add rof by tabing thru the menu until you come to where all 3 lights cycle rapidly (red.orange,yellow) this is now the rof setting. The cfoa mode starts at 15 bps. Each trigger pull in the rof mode will add 3 bps up to 31.

psp setting: tr light 6 max rof 1 light. This setting makes you legal for cfoa. The same applies here as above to add speed but its not legal.


DISCLAIMER !!!! WE MAKE NO PROMISES OR GUARANTEE THIS SOFTWARE WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PLAYER….

[krazyFLYguy]

I just received my FLY back with the new PSP/CFOA software. Both modes 1 and 3 are used for the PSP and CFOA but how about modes 2 4 and 5? I tried turning off my eyes on mode 2 and it won't turn off? Same as mode 4 and mode 5? Is it suppose to do that in those modes or is it a software problem? My eyes will turn off in Mode 1 and 3 when I hold the trigger. I need some help on this. Thanx!!

[KEN CRANE]

I just received my FLY back with the new PSP/CFOA software. Both modes 1 and 3 are used for the PSP and CFOA but how about modes 2 4 and 5? I tried turning off my eyes on mode 2 and it won't turn off? Same as mode 4 and mode 5? Is it suppose to do that in those modes or is it a software problem? My eyes will turn off in Mode 1 and 3 when I hold the trigger. I need some help on this. Thanx!!


IT IS WORKING CORRECTLY

[krazyFLYguy]

IT IS WORKING CORRECTLY


Sorry Ken "My Bad!" I read the FLY manual after I posted my thread and you're right. Those modes I was questioning about can't have the eyes turned off. :stooges:

[hell's angel]

Thanks Ken!

[angel4life05]

can't wait to get my board back!! thankx ken 4 the info.

[Method Acting]

thanks ken
got the instructions
cant wait to get my gat back :)

[05 speed]

hey guys the only way for me to get that upgrade is to send my gun out?
and will it be on PSP mode 1 2 3 then ramp mode?????
FOR AN 05 SPEED?

[DARKSTAR21]

On the settings for the hopper speed on the FLY 4.0 software is STD faster than SFAST or is it the slowest setting???

[Benfrain]

STD is slower than FAST, SFAST is the fastest - all of that is in the instruction manual.

[Studmuffin]

whats the turnaround time if we send our gun off to you ken? i live in east tn.Thanks.


-Kyle

[Method Acting]

i shipped mine monday and had it back thursday

[KEN CRANE]

whats the turnaround time if we send our gun off to you ken? i live in east tn.Thanks.


-Kyle

1 day

[p8ntbllkid]

sry if this was posted on here but im to lazy to scroll threw here but could someone help me out here i have the software version lp 3.6 and was wondering where i could get some info on it thanks

[Studmuffin]

wow! okay i'm going to talk to my dad tomorrow. so you'll probably be hearing from me. thanks for the help.

[krazyFLYguy]

Today I finally had the chance to try out the 4.0 software for the FLY. Mode 3 which is the PSP mode works like a charm but Mode 1 isn't working to what it's suppose to do. Actually, it does work fine when you have it capped at 15 but when I increased my TR to 12 and the MROF to 25 it wouldn't go pass 15BPS! I know this because there was another chap with a FLY also but doesn't have the new software, just the 3.5 and I was able to hit 19bps easily and that's with TR set at 1! I thought it might be my hopper so I tried the other FLY guy hopper and still not able to move past 15. I need some clarity and help. THank you!

[angel4life05]

ken.... will their be any wdp tech @ the cfoa @ china grove?

[xcarnx]

I am confused about something with the software Ken. I have been reading the post, and it looks as though the A4 Fly doesnt ramp just puts a 15 ball cap on the gun for the CFOA rule. Did I miss read something on here or does it work like the DM4's? In other words 1... 2... 3... 4 (ramps to 15bps)... etc....stop trigger pull (stops firing). Also I want to send in my gun for the upgrade and the MT trigger, but have been waiting for about 3 weeks on a price of the trigger installed. Could you please answer my question on this?

I also would like to see a MT at a CFOA event during this software issue. That would be great to get some work done on the East Coast by a real Tech not the wanna be that shows up there.

thx

[KEN CRANE]

I am confused about something with the software Ken. I have been reading the post, and it looks as though the A4 Fly doesnt ramp just puts a 15 ball cap on the gun for the CFOA rule. Did I miss read something on here or does it work like the DM4's? In other words 1... 2... 3... 4 (ramps to 15bps)... etc....stop trigger pull (stops firing). Also I want to send in my gun for the upgrade and the MT trigger, but have been waiting for about 3 weeks on a price of the trigger installed. Could you please answer my question on this?

I also would like to see a MT at a CFOA event during this software issue. That would be great to get some work done on the East Coast by a real Tech not the wanna be that shows up there.

thx


cfoa is pure semi no ramping. the rules in cfoa state 1 shot 1 solonoid activation no ramping no added shots. period !!! if the dm4,5,6,7 or tillys or protos pr preds or whatever gun it might be are secretly adding shots or ramping its not legal .now psp mode is a different story. psp allows for ramping. 3 shots and it goes to 15 bps.

no sorry we wont be in china grove.i would suggest sending in your boards as soon as possiable so they can be flashed before the event.

mt trigger is 30.00 plus a small labor charge to install it depending on the added work you request.

[xcarnx]

Ok I am not trying to be a pain Ken, but with the way the rule reads, and the ultimate ref states on the forums that statement is incorrect. The rule says you can't go over 15 Bps not 1 shot 1 solonoid activation no ramping no added shots (This however was in last years rules.). Now it does say no runaway guns, and no mechanical bounce. But the clarifacation for runaway guns is that when you stop pulling it must stop shooting. I have read these rules a thousand times, and have yet to see where in the rules it states this about the one shot one ball. The only rule section for markers is 4.2 to 4.29, and there is nothing reading like this. Are you guys going to re-evaluate this or is this just the way its going to be. I am not going to waste 25.00 bucks on this if it isn't going to be the same as everything else. Anyone who wants to questions this can go to:

http://www.thecfoa.com/files/2005_CFOA_rules_revision1.pdf

Or goto www.thecfoa.com then click on downloads and then rules 2005.

Sorry to be a pain, but I would like to get this straight before I waste money on something that isnt a benefit to me. It is our dollars that go into this stuff and this looks kind of like a cover up for programming issues that you guys couldn't get to work correctly. From the emails I have received from WDP the main problem was getting the gun to stop firing when ramping after the last trigger pull. If this is so then so be it, but I would love to know why my 13 or 14 hundred dollar gun is at a distinct disadvantage. I just would like to have some answers of why the refs are saying these guns are legal (Guns ramping to 15 Bps), but WDP is saying they aren't. I mean isn't the customer #1 anymore and if we are playing these tournaments are this is what these markers are used for then why isn't this company doing everything they can to make the CFOA players happy? Your customer base is very small in this part of the US, but we are still customers. With out us being content that number will decline. This is not a knock against anyone, but am a bit disappointed that more involvement with the CFOA wasn't put into this.

Ok I am done thanks for reading

[KEN CRANE]

Ok I am not trying to be a pain Ken, but with the way the rule reads, and the ultimate ref states on the forums that statement is incorrect. The rule says you can't go over 15 Bps not 1 shot 1 solonoid activation no ramping no added shots (This however was in last years rules.). Now it does say no runaway guns, and no mechanical bounce. But the clarifacation for runaway guns is that when you stop pulling it must stop shooting. I have read these rules a thousand times, and have yet to see where in the rules it states this about the one shot one ball. The only rule section for markers is 4.2 to 4.29, and there is nothing reading like this. Are you guys going to re-evaluate this or is this just the way its going to be. I am not going to waste 25.00 bucks on this if it isn't going to be the same as everything else. Anyone who wants to questions this can go to:

http://www.thecfoa.com/files/2005_CFOA_rules_revision1.pdf

Or goto www.thecfoa.com then click on downloads and then rules 2005.

Sorry to be a pain, but I would like to get this straight before I waste money on something that isnt a benefit to me. It is our dollars that go into this stuff and this looks kind of like a cover up for programming issues that you guys couldn't get to work correctly. From the emails I have received from WDP the main problem was getting the gun to stop firing when ramping after the last trigger pull. If this is so then so be it, but I would love to know why my 13 or 14 hundred dollar gun is at a distinct disadvantage. I just would like to have some answers of why the refs are saying these guns are legal (Guns ramping to 15 Bps), but WDP is saying they aren't. I mean isn't the customer #1 anymore and if we are playing these tournaments are this is what these markers are used for then why isn't this company doing everything they can to make the CFOA players happy? Your customer base is very small in this part of the US, but we are still customers. With out us being content that number will decline. This is not a knock against anyone, but am a bit disappointed that more involvement with the CFOA wasn't put into this.

Ok I am done thanks for reading

ok let me address this in my own words and feelings. first, its not our problem that the league you choose to play in didnt have there rules ready until 2 weeks before the first scheduled event. as a matter of fact they started this in november and did not finalize it until that time.as a group that needed to have software written to meet a specific rule change, we jumped thru hoops to get this done as soon as the official rules were submited.
now on to your next comment.that you are a bit dissapointed with the lack of involvment with cfoa. what more involvment should we provide or could we provide as you are quite mis guided as to our market share. we are building and selling more markers than than we ever have before.

ok now from my comments on to the software issue.

we specificaly had the software written for the cfoa rules. 15 bps period. technicaly no ramping. does it say no ramping ? nope. but read the runaway test. if you rapidly fire the gun it must stop apon the last trigger pull. no gray area here none at all,that means no ramping. if you have a rule that states no shots after the last trigger pull that means no added shots are allowed (no ramping) ramping means only 1 thing adding shots to your trigger pulls. do the others ramp ? probably but there not legal. do you want to be like the others ? if so set to mode 1 max rof 15 and add tr between 1-12.( but your cheating according to cfoa rules.)
not sure what else i can add or should add but i sure deleted alot of what i really wanted to say....

[criminalmindfreak]

I just want to get this straight before I decide on the new software.
Exactly what will change on my 3.5 fly if I have it flashed for 3.9
Im still very new to Angels (3 months now) still a little confused as to what is and isnt with all these new softwares I read about on the net. According to the forums 3.7 was the greatest thing since sliced bread until the MT's in HB told me it isnt all that.

[KEN CRANE]

I just want to get this straight before I decide on the new software.
Exactly what will change on my 3.5 fly if I have it flashed for 3.9
Im still very new to Angels (3 months now) still a little confused as to what is and isnt with all these new softwares I read about on the net. According to the forums 3.7 was the greatest thing since sliced bread until the MT's in HB told me it isnt all that.

please read the first post it will explain it all.

[DARKSTAR21]

I am a little dissapointed guys, I got the 4.0 software @ HB. Ken you might remember my gun the Dust blue A4 Fly w/ the dust blue trigger MT that robert put on and my charger wasnt working just to refresh your memory. Well my gun doesnt seem to shoot over 15 bps and the sofware doesnt take effect in mode 1 although mode 3 works none of the other modes shoot over 15 bps. Yes my mrof is up @ 30 and Ive tried numerous tr settings and its just slower than ever is there anything you guys can think of that could be the problem. also yes I know in mode 1 it has to be in tr 1 but it doesnt do anything so let me know what you think guys thanks. Keegan

[krazyFLYguy]

I am a little dissapointed guys, I got the 4.0 software @ HB. Ken you might remember my gun the Dust blue A4 Fly w/ the dust blue trigger MT that robert put on and my charger wasnt working just to refresh your memory. Well my gun doesnt seem to shoot over 15 bps and the sofware doesnt take effect in mode 1 although mode 3 works none of the other modes shoot over 15 bps. Yes my mrof is up @ 30 and Ive tried numerous tr settings and its just slower than ever is there anything you guys can think of that could be the problem. also yes I know in mode 1 it has to be in tr 1 but it doesnt do anything so let me know what you think guys thanks. Keegan

Hey Keegan, There's nothing wrong with the other Modes in your FLY. Modes 2, 4, 5, are limited to 15 bps regardless if you have you're eyes on or off. It states that in page 8 of your manual. As for mode Mode 1 (CFOA), I too am having trouble getting it over 15bps. Regardless if I have changed the MROF or TR, it still won't go over 15bps. I've taken it to a MT in my area so he's going to see what's up with that. As for Mode 3 (PSP), it works like a charm. I'll keep ya posted when I get my gun back.

[DARKSTAR21]

Thanks for the input Crazyflyguy, I was just really frustrated and pissed at that, I was like what up with the gun its not doing what they said its suppose to be doing and am I just suppose to live with now. Just keep me updated on whats gonna be done about this so I can have my gun working properly thanks.

[KEN CRANE]

I am a little dissapointed guys, I got the 4.0 software @ HB. Ken you might remember my gun the Dust blue A4 Fly w/ the dust blue trigger MT that robert put on and my charger wasnt working just to refresh your memory. Well my gun doesnt seem to shoot over 15 bps and the sofware doesnt take effect in mode 1 although mode 3 works none of the other modes shoot over 15 bps. Yes my mrof is up @ 30 and Ive tried numerous tr settings and its just slower than ever is there anything you guys can think of that could be the problem. also yes I know in mode 1 it has to be in tr 1 but it doesnt do anything so let me know what you think guys thanks. Keegan


pm me your phone number and we will go over it. shouldnt be this way,

[KEN CRANE]

Hey Keegan, There's nothing wrong with the other Modes in your FLY. Modes 2, 4, 5, are limited to 15 bps regardless if you have you're eyes on or off. It states that in page 8 of your manual. As for mode Mode 1 (CFOA), I too am having trouble getting it over 15bps. Regardless if I have changed the MROF or TR, it still won't go over 15bps. I've taken it to a MT in my area so he's going to see what's up with that. As for Mode 3 (PSP), it works like a charm. I'll keep ya posted when I get my gun back.

you wont get over 15 in mode 1 cfoa as it has a 15 ball cap. that is the purpose of the software.are you trying this while dry fireing or shooting paint? if your doing this while dry fireing it will not register over 15 reqardless of tr setting.

[JeffW]

you wont get over 15 in mode 1 cfoa as it has a 15 ball cap. that is the purpose of the software.are you trying this while dry fireing or shooting paint? if your doing this while dry fireing it will not register over 15 reqardless of tr setting.
Hey DarkStar, make sure your hopper setting is on SFAST. I was in a nonrof capped tourny this weekend. I shot mine in mode 1 mrof 30, tr 6 and it ripped. The last two games I somehow accidentally change my hopper settings to medium and it slowed my gun down a bunch. Also if you are dryfiring the gun with the eyes off I shoots real slow. Don't worry about that.

[krazyFLYguy]

you wont get over 15 in mode 1 cfoa as it has a 15 ball cap. that is the purpose of the software.are you trying this while dry fireing or shooting paint? if your doing this while dry fireing it will not register over 15 reqardless of tr setting.

I understand that it won't go over 15bps if the eyes are off cause that's a default in the program
but my question is why won't it go over 15bps with the eyes on, MROF was changed to 25 and the TR is set at 12. Hopper was set to SFAST and it had fresh new batteries! So I can't understand why it won't over the 15bps cap. Need some clarity here!

Psp/cfoa fly version designated by 4.0
----------------------------------------------

Cfoa setting: place gun in mode 1 place tr setting at 1 set mrof to 15 bps. This will make
you cfoa legal. Want it to do a little more? Bump the tr up or the mrof up but this is not legal.

Psp setting: mode 3 and tr at 1 mrof at 15 .this will make you psp legal. same here, want to go a little faster ? bump the tr up. This will make it faster but Not legal.

[DARKSTAR21]

i feel the same way

[KEN CRANE]

I understand that it won't go over 15bps if the eyes are off cause that's a default in the program
but my question is why won't it go over 15bps with the eyes on, MROF was changed to 25 and the TR is set at 12. Hopper was set to SFAST and it had fresh new batteries! So I can't understand why it won't over the 15bps cap. Need some clarity here!

Psp/cfoa fly version designated by 4.0
----------------------------------------------

Cfoa setting: place gun in mode 1 place tr setting at 1 set mrof to 15 bps. This will make
you cfoa legal. Want it to do a little more? Bump the tr up or the mrof up but this is not legal.

Psp setting: mode 3 and tr at 1 mrof at 15 .this will make you psp legal. same here, want to go a little faster ? bump the tr up. This will make it faster but Not legal.


is this while your firing paint or while dry fireing?

[DARKSTAR21]

When firing paint

[KEN CRANE]

When firing paint

all i can say is ship it off to me( the board only) and i will reflash it.

[Nicooper]

Hi, i see 3 lights in my new speed 05, this means version 3, but the guy who sold it to me said that it will come with ramping and psp roght from the factory, i cant find the modes,,... could he be wrong?.. he said it has the psp ad ramp,.

let me know, my pink speed 05 is 4 days old

[koscapi]

Hi guys,

Im comming up next week to florida, im from Venezuela and my team is currently switching to speeds, we got 4 and buyng fith.

The thing is ill be coming up for 2 weeks and i would like to upgrade the software on all our speeds.

Whos the closest to miami flashing speeds???

Please mail me koscapi@yahoo.com

THx

[Furby]

Are there going to be any MT's at the NCPA Collegiate Nationals, or at Orlando Cup? May have the LCD flashed to be compliant if so.

[htownkilla]

there is like a trillion posts that are like a page long, and i dont feel like reading all of them, i was wondering if i can get the psp software on my 05 speed when i am in tampa? and if i do, will it still have non psp modes like true semi? that arnt capped?

[KEN CRANE]

there is like a trillion posts that are like a page long, and i dont feel like reading all of them, i was wondering if i can get the psp software on my 05 speed when i am in tampa? and if i do, will it still have non psp modes like true semi? that arnt capped?

yes yes and yes

[PapasAndBeer]

can u adjust the ramping.. why 15.. make it 30.. so i can prove the angel is the fastest..

[whiskeybusiness]

hmmm....because fifteen is the psp standard maybe and this software was created to comply with it.

[KEN CRANE]

http://www.68caliber.com/features/reviews/story04861.php

[PapasAndBeer]

hmmm....because fifteen is the psp standard maybe and this software was created to comply with it.
hmm u think if i carE? i want 30 so i can tear it up in the videos..!!

[htownkilla]

yes yes and yes

thank u very much mr crane

[Hep]

My team just got back 3 boards (2 fly, 1 05 S) from Bob after having them flashed and they worked flawlessly all weekend. Ramping was real nice to use also.

[Angel4boy]

i saw at the orlando open that docs raiders had their guns shootin 15 over the normal chrony's but on the "high-tech" pock chronys they were showing 16-18 bps (2 guys were pulled)..will this sort of problem happen if i get my gun flashed ???

[JBliss]

i saw at the orlando open that docs raiders had their guns shootin 15 over the normal chrony's but on the "high-tech" pock chronys they were showing 16-18 bps (2 guys were pulled)..will this sort of problem happen if i get my gun flashed ???


No. As long as you settings are mode 3 tr1 mof 15 you will be in like flin. Our team had two flys with the 4.0 and they had them checked before they play at the nxl tent and they cleared them.

[Angel4boy]

does psp allow 1,2,3, Full Auto or only 1,2,3 Ramp?? the league rules confuse me ..

[JBliss]

does psp allow 1,2,3, Full Auto or only 1,2,3 Ramp?? the league rules confuse me ..

1,2,3 ramp up to 15bps. You still have to pull the trigger with ramp. with full auto you can hold the trigger down and it will fire till you release it. full auto is not legal

[Angel4boy]

so the 1,2,3 full auto is only for CFOA ??? also turn around is around 3 days right if i ship my gun in ?

[big azn]

Will you guys be at the Chicago psp open this june to flash boards.

[psychoballer07]

so the 1,2,3 full auto is only for CFOA ??? also turn around is around 3 days right if i ship my gun in ?
1,2,3 full auto is only NXL i believe. CFOA is one shot one pull cap at 15 BPS no ramping allowed.

[SPEED_LOVER]

ok theres alot of reading, but how much does ot cost 2 get psp ramping for an 05 speed.

[psychoballer07]

$25, and i must say it is well worth it

[SPEED_LOVER]

were can i do this, and do i send the gun or the board? AND 25 BUX???? ill take 2 lmao :evilgrin:

[HIOCTANE]

you can send it to any of this places, Performance Angel, FixMyAngel.Com, Angel Service Center, Badlands Paintball, Angel Parts, Impact Paintball, Angel Force and they will take care of you, and you can send the board you will save money on shipping, Ken Crane @ performanceangel.com flashed my board he gave me great costumer service. :dinner:

[eodaly]

do you possabily have any info on psp software for the euro angel
and if so where can I obtain it



Ok people here is the scoop on the new 15 bps software for cfoa/psp for the 05 speed. As of today you can send your o5 speed gun or board only in for the upgrade. This upgrade allows you to change the mode into a psp or cfoa mode. The 05 upgrade has NO performance changes or enhancements. You will loose demo mode and TR mode signified by light 6. The replacement software version will become 4.0 for the 05 speed. This is ramping software that has 3 semi pulls and then ramps to 15.4 bps. This is cool software just to have even if you do not play in either league. We have noticed that smaller paintball leagues are adopting these rules so it might be worth being proactive rather than reactive.

The software has an update cost of 25.00 plus return shipping. It is necessary to charge for this as it was very expensive to have this code written. This is above and beyond any normal “upgrade” that we provide for free.

The fly software will be ready at the end of the week and we will post it as soon as we receive it. The fly software will be based on software version 3.6 (g-7 platform) and will be the most current update. It will carry the 3.9 designation. This will also be 25.00 plus return shipping.

As of today Monday 3/7/05 www.performanceangel.com www.fixmyangel.com www.impactpaintball.com www.angelservicecenter.com www.angelparts.com www.premiumpaintball.com www.badlandspaintball.com www.cobrapaintball.com

PLEASE! Do not call WDP asking for the upgrade installed on your gun at no charge as they cannot help you. This upgrade will be the same price for all including dealers. No other information other than what we have provided is available. You will receive an instruction sheet on how the modes are operated as there are some adjustments you can now make in your rate of fire with the eyes on or off in the new modes up to 15.4 bps. Let’s try and not make anymore out of this than necessary. Basically what we are asking is don’t clutter the thread with stupid questions that don’t need to be asked. We think we have hit on everything so send them on in to your favorite shop and remember to go to that site, print a service request form and fill all your information.

__________________[/QUOTE]

[eodaly]

is there any psp software for the euro angel
and if there is how can I obtain it

[eodaly]

Is there any psp software available for the euro angel
And if there is how can I obtain it

[Angel4boy]

so for a FLY with v4.0 i can put the PSP mode on and put the MROF to like 30 and it will ramp to that (or max my loader) ???

[psychoballer07]

so for a FLY with v4.0 i can put the PSP mode on and put the MROF to like 30 and it will ramp to that (or max my loader) ???
no the max it will ramp to is 15

[thedoubleop]

Will anyone be there for the Tampa Open?

[Angel4boy]

so then why did it say on the manual ken published that you could increse the MROF but it wouldnt be legal ??

[Angel4boy]

doubleop i will be there sunday ..

[Raoul]

so then why did it say on the manual ken published that you could increse the MROF but it wouldnt be legal ??

Good Question!

[HIOCTANE]

yes you can ramp up to 30. you have to put it on mode 3, then up your tr all the way up and the rate of fire up, it only goes up to 30, but if you turn the eyes off you can only ramp up to 15,

[Angel4boy]

correct me if im wrong bout this but someone on this thread or another one in the software section said if i pump my TR up to the max it will shoot w/o a ball in the chamber ..is this true ?? if so is like 21 enough ??

[HIOCTANE]

psp and other leagues allowed ramp up to 15 if you set your angel to shoot any higher than 15 then you and your team will get taken out or what ever the judges feel like at the moment.
I could be wrong.

[Angel4boy]

i know that im just curious as to how the ramping is controlled (is it done by pumping up the MROF) and if the gun will shoot w/o a ball in the chamber at TR22 ???

[HIOCTANE]

21 is super fast, I played with my angel set to ramp @ 18 and it was really fast. so 21 is perfect if you are playing rec ball

[HIOCTANE]

I would'nt put my tr that high or you could start chopping like crazy

[Angel4boy]

ok h/o im gettin confused...i pump my tr to 21 not 22 and this will make it ramp ?? not bounce ??? or is it the MROF i bump up??

[ecorreale]

I just had the software updated but I'm having trouble finding documentation for the new settings. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for the 05 Speed running V3.9?

[Angel4boy]

here ya go...i got mine done at tampa (fly though) and i love it..

PSP/CFOA 05 Speed Version Designated By 4

CFOA Setting:
TR- 1
MROF- 1 light
This makes you cfoa legal. Want it faster? Add rof by tabing thru the menu until you come to where all 3 lights cycle rapidly (red.orange,yellow) this is now the rof setting. The CFOA mode starts at 15 bps. Each trigger pull in the ROF mode will add 3 BPS up to 31.

PSP Setting:
TR- LIGHT 6
ROF- 1 light
This will make it legal in the PSP. The same applies here as above to add speed but its not legal in the PSP.

[05 speed]

well i live in miami and there a place called paintballs r us and they do it there i donno how much but there a nother place called splatattack and they do it 4 25$

[KEN CRANE]

well i live in miami and there a place called paintballs r us and they do it there i donno how much but there a nother place called splatattack and they do it 4 25$

sorry but neither of those companies can upgrade your software sorry.

[05 speed]

Y Cant They?
There Doing My Speed On Friday

[KEN CRANE]

Y Cant They?
There Doing My Speed On Friday


THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PSP/CFOA SOFTWARE. ONLY THE 6 SERVICE CENTERS LISTED AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE HAVE THE SOFTWARE IN THE U.S.

[pimpinsaylor]

is 4.0 the same price as 3.9 and sice i have an af board will it remove any of those modes? i heard i could keep my demo mode with 4.0. is this true ken?

[Angel4boy]

3.9 is now 4.0..same thing..and you cant adjust the rampin on psp mode at all...im guessin on cfoa mode if i just bump it to like 25 or sumtin then thats like true semi..

[05 speed]

that not true cuz im getting my psp on friday

[05 speed]

can i adj. the ramping to my mrof and what is the cfoa is that semi or wat? please answer

[KEN CRANE]

that not true cuz im getting my psp on friday

they dont have the psp/cfoa version. if you want that version you must contact one of the warranty centers listed on the top of the page.

[05 speed]

Ok So The Psp Softwere There Selling Me Is Fake Or Wat/

[05 speed]

can i adj. the ramping to my mrof and what is the cfoa is that semi or wat? please answer PLEASE

[FrontManDan]

you lot are idiots, i understood exactly what i was getting from the first 3 posts.

and you wonder why the techs arnt posting back to you.

[kingcaesar1]

QUERY-i have an Angel Flyw/ the 4.0 board. I let a friend borrow and he screws up the board by dropping it.
I order another 4.0 board for the Angel but I told them to flash the board so i can have the lastest the lastest upgrades.
I receive the board and install it into my gun. I turn it on and it seemed like nothing has changed on the board.
How Can I distinguish the difference between the 4.0 that came with the fly and the new upgrade?(visually)
Is there some type of unique serial number on the board that will tell me its lastest upgrades?
Please help because I probably got ripped off. Show me the signs!

[InVision5223]

umm. will someone be at Chicago open to flash psp software to my force fly? I never played psp before and i'm playing d2 xball.... same cost $25? etc....

[pblcd225]

QUERY-i have an Angel Flyw/ the 4.0 board. I let a friend borrow and he screws up the board by dropping it.
I order another 4.0 board for the Angel but I told them to flash the board so i can have the lastest the lastest upgrades.
I receive the board and install it into my gun. I turn it on and it seemed like nothing has changed on the board.
How Can I distinguish the difference between the 4.0 that came with the fly and the new upgrade?(visually)
Is there some type of unique serial number on the board that will tell me its lastest upgrades?
Please help because I probably got ripped off. Show me the signs!



4.0 is 4.0 its the PSP lastest software......Their is no differance........correct me if I'm wrong KEn!

[InVision5223]

umm. will someone be at Chicago open to flash psp software to my force fly? I never played psp before and i'm playing d2 xball.... same cost $25? etc....


answer?

[KEN CRANE]

answer?

yes eric and sean from angelparts.com will be there flashing boards. cost 25.00

[InVision5223]

sorry didnt mean to be an impatient D*** but i'm kinda stressin cuz being such short notice if ya couldnt do it i'd be toast....

how long does a quick lube etc take? or would i have to either leave the gun or mail it in for some servicin like that

[Knobbs]

yes eric and sean from angelparts.com will be there flashing boards. cost 25.00


BULL!

They didn't freaking show up. Now I am stuck with two illegal angels and I'm playing tomorrow. Nice service. I would have sent in my guns, but was assured that I could get them done at the event. Glad I don't play X-ball.

I was scrambling all over trying to find ANY way to get my guns ready for the tournament, but to no avail. Good thing a few of my teammates have backup guns, but there are 3 speed 05s on the team that are right now unusable for the event.

Awesome. :sure:

[Knobbs]

A footnote to this...My teammate and I got our angels flashed at the same time by the same tech. We went to get on the field and they checked our guns. His was illegal and they wouldn't let it on the field. They asked us to slow it down. THERE IS NO WAY TO SLOW DOWN THE PSP RAMPING ON A SPEED 05!

My angel was allowed on the field, but after 2 checks, both of them showed his Speed 05 as illegal.

The tech tried to tell him that he had the hadn't gotten it flashed and that he had the 'old ramping software', when the truth is that the ONLY ramping software he ever had on the gun was what he got flashed at this tournament, so either the tech gave him the wrong software and made it impossible to use the gun during that tournament (still collecting his 25 bucks) or he told a bold face lie and he put the same software on it again.

Take that for what it's worth.

[Hep]

BULL!

They didn't freaking show up. Now I am stuck with two illegal angels and I'm playing tomorrow. Nice service. I would have sent in my guns, but was assured that I could get them done at the event. Glad I don't play X-ball.

I was scrambling all over trying to find ANY way to get my guns ready for the tournament, but to no avail. Good thing a few of my teammates have backup guns, but there are 3 speed 05s on the team that are right now unusable for the event.

Awesome. :sure:

Well it seems this is more your problem than theirs as you waited until the last minute. Besides that $hit happens to put it bluntly. It seems they lost their booth space also, if it is Eric and Sean you are reffering to from Angelparts.com

An old saying goes like this.
"Lack of planing on your part does not constitute a emergency on mine"

Some words of wisdom.

[Knobbs]

Well it seems this is more your problem than theirs as you waited until the last minute. Besides that $hit happens to put it bluntly. It seems they lost their booth space also, if it is Eric and Sean you are reffering to from Angelparts.com

An old saying goes like this.
"Lack of planing on your part does not constitute a emergency on mine"

Some words of wisdom.

When asked about sending my guns in, I was advised that it wasn't a big deal because they'd have someone there doing it and I could get it done before the event.

Not to mention the crap that went down with my teammate's angel.

[KEN CRANE]

BULL!

They didn't freaking show up. Now I am stuck with two illegal angels and I'm playing tomorrow. Nice service. I would have sent in my guns, but was assured that I could get them done at the event. Glad I don't play X-ball.

I was scrambling all over trying to find ANY way to get my guns ready for the tournament, but to no avail. Good thing a few of my teammates have backup guns, but there are 3 speed 05s on the team that are right now unusable for the event.

Awesome. :sure:

they are there. friday they got stuck using the halo booth as psp gave the vender space to somone else and could not get more space until today. i have spoken to eric and sean atleast 15 times in the last 3 days.

[KEN CRANE]

they are there. friday they got stuck using the halo booth as psp gave the vender space to somone else and could not get more space until today. i have spoken to eric and sean atleast 15 times in the last 3 days.


also i understand your frustration but if you knew your equipment better you could just put it in mode 1 tr1 and mrof 14. where did you have the software flashed so we can look into this for you. footnote to this as well. i just spoke to eric on this and he agreed 2 guns were compliant and 1 was not. the version that was on the 05 speed you are speaking about isnt even on their computer so we/they dont know how this could have happened. he said this has been corrected and has been properly flashed. now take a pill and relax.things should be fine. psp is busting balls big time at this event as you will surely read about it later so you wont be the only pissed off team or person.

[Knobbs]

they are there. friday they got stuck using the halo booth as psp gave the vender space to somone else and could not get more space until today. i have spoken to eric and sean atleast 15 times in the last 3 days.

I was the one that posted where they were at, trying to be helpful.

[Knobbs]

also i understand your frustration but if you knew your equipment better you could just put it in mode 1 tr1 and mrof 14. where did you have the software flashed so we can look into this for you. footnote to this as well. i just spoke to eric on this and he agreed 2 guns were compliant and 1 was not. the version that was on the 05 speed you are speaking about isnt even on their computer so we/they dont know how this could have happened. he said this has been corrected and has been properly flashed. now take a pill and relax.things should be fine. psp is busting balls big time at this event as you will surely read about it later so you wont be the only pissed off team or person.

My teammate paid his 25 dollars to get his board flashed, and then couldn't use it in the tournament. We couldn't put it in tr1, as RAMPING was legal, but BOUNCING was not. Seems like if HE knew his equipment better (which he is paid to do) this wouldn't have been a problem.

Second, I don't appreciate being called a liar. My teammate and I both bought our speeds at the exact same time--immediately after they came out and well before ramping was legal in the PSP. Neither of us have ever had our boards flashed, and the stock boards then did not come with ramping. There was NEVER any ramping on the gun EVER, and if the software was old and unchanged, then what did he take my teammate's 25 bucks for? Either way, either he got shoddy service or he got fleeced for 25 bucks.

I'm trying to educate the other angel owners out there that they should be careful about this new software, or they'll find themselves in the same bind. I've been a loyal Angel user for YEARS and I've been extremely happy with them. One of the recent claims has been that with the new master tech force, customer service is the best it's ever been, but I'm finding that not to be the case.

[KEN CRANE]

My teammate paid his 25 dollars to get his board flashed, and then couldn't use it in the tournament. We couldn't put it in tr1, as RAMPING was legal, but BOUNCING was not. Seems like if HE knew his equipment better (which he is paid to do) this wouldn't have been a problem.

Second, I don't appreciate being called a liar. My teammate and I both bought our speeds at the exact same time--immediately after they came out and well before ramping was legal in the PSP. Neither of us have ever had our boards flashed, and the stock boards then did not come with ramping. There was NEVER any ramping on the gun EVER, and if the software was old and unchanged, then what did he take my teammate's 25 bucks for? Either way, either he got shoddy service or he got fleeced for 25 bucks.

I'm trying to educate the other angel owners out there that they should be careful about this new software, or they'll find themselves in the same bind. I've been a loyal Angel user for YEARS and I've been extremely happy with them. One of the recent claims has been that with the new master tech force, customer service is the best it's ever been, but I'm finding that not to be the case.

what am i missing here. if eric flashed all 3 speeds are you saying your gun and 1 other speed was legal and one ended up not being? were they all flashed at the same time or at different times? i have had to have missed something here.

[Knobbs]

what am i missing here. if eric flashed all 3 speeds are you saying your gun and 1 other speed was legal and one ended up not being? were they all flashed at the same time or at different times? i have had to have missed something here.

Well, I'm saying the speed I used was legal and the speed he used was not. I had two speeds and my teammate, directly behind me in line, had a speed as well. I paid my 50 bucks, got two speeds with the original programming updated. I only had one tested and it was fine. I assumed the others was as well. He had his speed updated immediately following me and paid his money for that. While my gun passed the test, his did not. When he took it to the tech, the tech claimed that he hadn't gotten it updated yet because the original ramping software was on his gun. Software he never had on his gun, and software that you are saying they didn't even have on their computers. So, either:

1) The tech is lying about what version of software was originally on the gun.
2) The tech put the wrong software on the gun (which he claims was not even on the computer).
3) The software was somehow already on a stock angel purchased before the software was available, and the tech never touched it but collected the money for it anyway.

Any of the 3 are less than stellar possibilities from a customer support standpoint, and because we had a backup Ego ready to go, we were able to play the game with all 5 guns. Had we walked on the field with that gun, however, the penalty could have been anywhere from lost players to suspensions.

[KEN CRANE]

Well, I'm saying the speed I used was legal and the speed he used was not. I had two speeds and my teammate, directly behind me in line, had a speed as well. I paid my 50 bucks, got two speeds with the original programming updated. I only had one tested and it was fine. I assumed the others was as well. He had his speed updated immediately following me and paid his money for that. While my gun passed the test, his did not. When he took it to the tech, the tech claimed that he hadn't gotten it updated yet because the original ramping software was on his gun. Software he never had on his gun, and software that you are saying they didn't even have on their computers. So, either:

1) The tech is lying about what version of software was originally on the gun.
2) The tech put the wrong software on the gun (which he claims was not even on the computer).
3) The software was somehow already on a stock angel purchased before the software was available, and the tech never touched it but collected the money for it anyway.

Any of the 3 are less than stellar possibilities from a customer support standpoint, and because we had a backup Ego ready to go, we were able to play the game with all 5 guns. Had we walked on the field with that gun, however, the penalty could have been anywhere from lost players to suspensions.

ok were glad your friend was able to play and not been penalized for a gun that wasnt psp compliant. i would suggest the person that owns the gun contact one of us so we can get the situation rectified if it hasnt been.

[jdp72]

Ken:

Over the weekend at the Chicago Open I had Sean flash my Fly board with what I thought was the latest 4.0 upgrade. I get home and when I turn it on, instead of seeing 4.0 it says "91:5" and then instantly goes into LIVE mode. The marker shoots just fine, just not sure how safe it is to play REC games with it like it.

In contrast my just recently Flied Speed has the 4.0 update and it starts off in SAFE mode until I press the top button making it live. What do you suggest I do?

[KEN CRANE]

Ken:

Over the weekend at the Chicago Open I had Sean flash my Fly board with what I thought was the latest 4.0 upgrade. I get home and when I turn it on, instead of seeing 4.0 it says "91:5" and then instantly goes into LIVE mode. The marker shoots just fine, just not sure how safe it is to play REC games with it like it.

In contrast my just recently Flied Speed has the 4.0 update and it starts off in SAFE mode until I press the top button making it live. What do you suggest I do?

cough cough he installed g7 software. that is the plan for future installs. call me on monday and i will go over some choices. 508-400-2007

[Knobbs]

ok were glad your friend was able to play and not been penalized for a gun that wasnt psp compliant. i would suggest the person that owns the gun contact one of us so we can get the situation rectified if it hasnt been.

He went back to the booth after we finished playing on Saturday (we had evening session Friday and morning session Saturday) and it supposedly got reflashed. We have no way of knowing if it actually is the correct software, though, unless there is a way to tell this on the gun boot up.

[zeerow]

I got 2 Fly's flashed at the event on Saturday, and the ramping on it is really odd. Instead of a steady ramp like what a teammate of mine has on his 05 Speed, this will shoot 3 shot bursts with gaps inbetween them. It's almost impossible to get a constant stream, and even getting the 3 shot burst to happen is inconsistent. Have you heard of this happening to anyone else?

It's just troubling because I paid 50 dollars to get my guns flashed and instead of making it easier, it's actually harder to now shoot 15 balls per second with my gun.

What could be wrong with it, and am I going to have to pay more money?

[Knobbs]

That happens when I turn the eyes off on my speed, but it is fine with paint--did you try that? Maybe the eyes aren't responding.

[zeerow]

I just tested the eyes on one and you're right, they aren't working. But on the other it is working, and the ramping still is a little different. It just seems easier to ramp with the 05 Speed, is the code any different?

[Raoul]

cough cough he installed g7 software. that is the plan for future installs. call me on monday and i will go over some choices. 508-400-2007

Mine says the same thing.... I wondered why it didn't say "4.0"

I'll call ya tomorrow Ken, thanx!

[jdp72]

Raoul:

Hey I was right behind you in line, the one with the Royal Blue Force4 talking with the guys from Puerto Rico. Sounds like you made it back to Madison in one piece. PM me sometime.

[Raoul]

Yo jdp72, you'za crazy person! :boink:

Seriously, It was cool talkin with you and your buds!

[jdp72]

Yo jdp72, you'za crazy person! :boink:

Seriously, It was cool talkin with you and your buds!

Yeah it was great to see some fellow AOG'ers there...and to see some personal friends of mine play in the Open (no name dropping here).

Hey if you ever come down to Chicago again you'll have to get in touch with me. I still haven't gotten a hold of Ken yet to find out what to do with my board! I thought Sean was totally joking when he said he was going to update me/us with the LATEST software update that he downloaded from the library down the street onto his laptop.

Anyways, we have pics of you that we can email...as well as a pic of Eric looking totally stressed out talking on the phone with Ken. HAHAAHAHA

Did you end up going to the players party that night?

[G-Supreme]

Hey jdp72 I'm the guy from Puerto Rico.

I also have that problem with the new software (91:5) where I can shoot as fast as I can and still there is a gap between every 3 shots. I talked to one of the techs on Saturday but he said it was fine. I went on Sunday to get it reflashed to the old version which was working great but the tech where not there.

I tested the fly on the little black box which measures the bps, mine shot 15 but there where other markers which shot 10 time better, faster, and a more consistent streams of paint than my angel. I ended up having to use an inferior gun that shot better than my angel. Not only that, I have 5 pissed off clients that are mad with the new software. Two of my clients have the lazer eyes on there fly's and they don't work with the new software.

Somebody told me that if I can't get the ROF to 31 bps then I got a faulty flash and the board needs to be reflashed.


Where can I send these boards to get the old software or when will this problem be fixed? I would like to have it before the next PSP event.

[jdp72]

G-Supreme:

Yeah mine is having some sort of issue with the new software...
http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=42775

I haven't had time to get a hold of Sean or Eric yet as to what might be causing it. I've been using my backups and am just too lazy...

Raoul:

How has your marker been working since it's been re-flashed???

[FrontManDan]

Somebody told me that if I can't get the ROF to 31 bps then I got a faulty flash and the board needs to be reflashed.
.

let's help, not make snide comments
edited by: C.Carles-AOG

[BoB]

What mode are you having the problem in?
What are your board settings?
What type of loader?
Where and when did you get this software?
Have you checked simple things like trigger adjustment etc...?

As for the eyes, the G7's only come with laser eyes and they work fine. Are the eyes passing the drop test? Are they clean? Were they installed correctly?

Just flashed an Angel 4 today with the eye conversion and it was hitting anywhere from 22-24bps with a Halo B and 17-18 with an Evo in semi and the PSP was rolling.


Hey jdp72 I'm the guy from Puerto Rico.

I also have that problem with the new software (91:5) where I can shoot as fast as I can and still there is a gap between every 3 shots. I talked to one of the techs on Saturday but he said it was fine. I went on Sunday to get it reflashed to the old version which was working great but the tech where not there.

I tested the fly on the little black box which measures the bps, mine shot 15 but there where other markers which shot 10 time better, faster, and a more consistent streams of paint than my angel. I ended up having to use an inferior gun that shot better than my angel. Not only that, I have 5 pissed off clients that are mad with the new software. Two of my clients have the lazer eyes on there fly's and they don't work with the new software.

Somebody told me that if I can't get the ROF to 31 bps then I got a faulty flash and the board needs to be reflashed.


Where can I send these boards to get the old software or when will this problem be fixed? I would like to have it before the next PSP event.

[jdp72]

nope im sick of reading stupid questions from stupid people, read your
dam manuals


First off some people do not have the proper manuals for the software that is installed in their boards... ie. G7 software installed in Fly boards.

Please refrain from name calling and the such, as genuine people are trying to gain information. If you are sick of reading stupid questions from stupid people then just go to a different thread.

[FrontManDan]

theres is plenty of information in this thread, i worked mine out with the info provided in the first 3 pages

[jdp72]

theres is plenty of information in this thread, i worked mine out with the info provided in the first 3 pages

Obviously you are one with exceptional brain power. Let us mortals ask questions in peace...

[KEN CRANE]

What mode are you having the problem in?
What are your board settings?
What type of loader?
Where and when did you get this software?
Have you checked simple things like trigger adjustment etc...?

As for the eyes, the G7's only come with laser eyes and they work fine. Are the eyes passing the drop test? Are they clean? Were they installed correctly?

Just flashed an Angel 4 today with the eye conversion and it was hitting anywhere from 22-24bps with a Halo B and 17-18 with an Evo in semi and the PSP was rolling.


ok in adding to bobs question, are you trying to achieve 31 in the psp mode? ALSO THE SOFTWARE WILL GAP AT THE 3RD SHOT IF YOU STOP SHOOTING FOR 1 MS. IT NEEDS TO RE COUNT THE FIRST 3 BEFORE IT CAN RAMP TO 15. YOU MUST MAINTAIN THE ROF OR IT WILL START TO LOOK FOR 3 SEMI SHOTS AGAIN BEFORE RE RAMPING. THIS IS THE FIRST DISCUSSION OF A PERCIEVED ISSUE WITH 9 1.5. I HAVE BEEN USING THIS VERSION PRIOR TO CHICAGO AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR PRO TEAMS AND NO ONE ELSE HAS SUGGESTED AN ISSUE.TRY AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE CLEARER SO WE CAN HELP OUT HERE. ALSO THE LAZER EYES AS BOB HAS INDICATED HAS NO BEARING ON SOFTWARE. DEEP BREATH AND POST WITHOUT THE EMOTION AND LOTS OF FACTS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET YOU THRU THIS BUMP IN THE ROAD.

[Raoul]

G-Supreme:

Raoul:

How has your marker been working since it's been re-flashed???

I haven't had any time to try mine out yet, but I'm hoping to this weekend.

[G-Supreme]

BoB - Ken Sorry for the late reply:

When a shoot my angel it goes:
shot #1-> shot #2-> shot #3 -> 3 shots with one trigger pull -> gap -> 3 shots with one trigger pull -> gap -> etc.

These are my settings:

1. Mode 3 PSP mode
2. Loader Speed - 16, TR - I know that it doesn't matter, ROF - it's automatically set to 15 in Mode 3.
3. Loader: Empire B with new batteries and set to fastest speed
4. Got the software at Chicago Open
5. I played with several trigger adjustments after not being able to get a constant stream of paint up.
6. No I'm not trying to shoot 31bps with the PSP mode I just want it to shoot 15.4 bps with a constant stream of paint with no gaps between every 3 shots, although some of my clients would like to be able to be able to shot a bit more than 15.4 bps.

I marker was working awsome going into Chicago but then I reflashed there with the new software, the fly has just sucked in PSP mode yet shoots the same as before in Mode 1.

Also I know Avalance didn't face this problem since they were using the prototype boards from Tadao in there G7 (I asked about it there and I saw Pepe's G7 at my hotel room).

All I know is that I can shoot more paint with any other marker with a Tadao or Predator board (shooting at 14.4 - 15.4 bps) compared to my angel right now.

I know that I'm not the only one. Check out Zeerow post a few pages back, he has the same problem. Maybe the flashes done at Chicago where faulty. I know that it took like 10 min to flash each board and when they did it in Orlando it took less than 1 min for each board.

All I want is help fixing my angel (and those of my customers of course) before the next PSP event. Playing Division 1 I need a marker that works great not good.

[BoB]

Do a board reset, place in PSP mode and leave the other settings at factory and tell us what happens. The new software does not add three shots to the 4th pull like the old software. Only one of Lanche was testing a tadao board. I will be teching lanche's G7's tomorrow at practice so I will be on the look out for any bugs. As of yesterday the only problem I have found are bad/dirty eyes, improper trigger set ups and bad loaders. Once these discrepancies were addressed the markers worked great.

[amelot]

My FLY board has 3.0 on it.
I'm wanting to get it updated, I herd that you can get 4.0 or the G7 1.5? Is that true? What is the comparrison between each? And is the price different that $25 plus shipping cost?

[FAIce]

I have the same problem of G-supreme

--When a shoot my angel it goes:
shot #1-> shot #2-> shot #3 -> 3 shots with one trigger pull -> gap -> 3 shots with one trigger pull -> gap -> etc.
--

G1.5

[FAIce]

Why many people is having this problem with the G1.5 Mode 3 and with the 4.0´s Mode3 works fine?
The 4.0`s also the software gap at the 3rd shot if they stop shooting for 1 MS??

[Ragin Cajun]

Whats the difference in G7 software from 1.4 to 1.5? Is there a need to upgrade immediately?

[FAIce]

please make another thread

[Bull.]

http://www.botonesdelvalle.com/c1l2m003.jpg

lol

[Raoul]

G-Supreme:
Raoul:

How has your marker been working since it's been re-flashed???


Got to try my Fly out tonite for the first time with the g1.5 software and I'm very happy.

Chrono'd @ 300, Hopper @ 14 (Stock ReLoaderB)

Mode1, MROF @ 30, Dwell @ 9, TR2 = 20BPS (Mostly around 18, 20 was a peak, both on the display and on the chrono)

Mode3 werx as advertised. (no 'gaps')

Stock Fly except for a Sidewinder reg, a Cobra v2.0 bolt and Cobra Flat trigger.

me = satisfied customer

[AlmightyRuler]

I just saw there is another software upgrade for the 4 Fly. Version 4.0. What is the difference between that & Version 3.9?

[HIOCTANE]

there is no difference its the same thing

[Rebel2002]

Can someone just clarify what CFOA mode actually is for me? I have 3.9 and when I set it to CFOA mode I get no ramping. Is it just true semi capped at 15?

[Hep]

yep

[AlmightyRuler]

there is no difference its the same thing
I was told that ver. 4.0 fixes the software issue(s) the ver. 3.9 had.

[HIOCTANE]

they had issues with the speed never with the fly and the speed is now 7 and the fly 4

[wolfram075]

k having the same gap issues on 05 speed...just got the board today and it goes as such...all settings stock except that i placed it in psp mode... shoots 3 shots true semi, then begins to ramp to 3 shots at 15 bps, gap, 3 shots at 15bps. :puzzled:

[BoB]

Ken and I will test a few 05's tomorrow with the latest software and see if we can duplicate the issue

[wolfram075]

thanks guys. if it helps the problem is worse with the eyes off, shooting air and paint with the eyes on its intermitant (sp?) at least for mine.

[koscapi]

Hey gus, im not really up to date with whats happening. But i Flashed my teams boards at orlando erlier this year .

Is there any trouble with the software we got? (psp mode??)
One of the speed 05 is swithing out of psp mode when you turn it off and on again. WHY??

We all got Speed05´s with the software that Robert had at orlando. Please tell me about any problems this software has...we got a CSP event (psp mode, in south america and we dont want our angels to get banned)

THX

[wolfram075]

only problems so far is that ver 6 and earlier shoot 3 shots after the last pull in psp and mode 7 has a gap inbetween 3 shot bursts (see above posts). at least thats all im aware of.

[CopperTop]

So, 15 pages later and I still haven't found a answer to the question about software support for the Euro board used in the MT conversions.

Can the euro board be updated with the new PSP software?

[BoB]

No. The euro is a semi only board.

[CopperTop]

Maybe the conversion forms and pages should be updated with this vital information....


When I got the conversion there was a lack of FLY boards. I was told it was the same thing just with a LED interface. So I went for it. While my gun was being worked on I looked up the Euro speed manual assuming that the board going in my gun was the same. Few weeks later I get my gun back, and low and behold I don't even get any of the modes in the euro board. Now I find out I can't get the Software updates....

Maybe the forms should include desciptions like...

"The euro board used in the MT conversion is a semi only board"

"No future software upgrades can be supported"

"doesn't support intellifeed"

This would have helped me make my decision, and obviously I wouldn't have chosen this board.

[BoB]

Which form?

[paintballteen]

I have a speed and i dont understand how to set it into psp mode i have the new board the speed is 3 days old

[jimiscrazy]

During the Chicago Open, I had my '05 Speed flashed for PSP. They were busy and said that it replaced the demo mode. I really don't see where in the manual that change is evident. Dwell, MROF, hopper are all there but I didn't see the mode change. I'm going to a non-ramping tourney in a couple of days and wanted to turn off the PSP ramp mode. Any step by steps? Thanks in advance.

[richabi]

Hey everybody, if I buy a previously owned a4 fly and want to flash it to g1.5, it will cost 25 plus shipping, correct? I live in Austin, TX. What is the closest center and how long would it take? Thanks!

[BoB]

4:1 is the software available for the Fly

[criminalmindfreak]

Bob if 4.1 is the software for the fly and 4.0 is not psp compliant why in the world did the tech booth is san diego flash me with the 4.0. why did I pay $25 dollars for software that isnt even good an now I have to pay another $25 plus shipping to get the right stuff

[KEN CRANE]

Hey everybody, if I buy a previously owned a4 fly and want to flash it to g1.5, it will cost 25 plus shipping, correct? I live in Austin, TX. What is the closest center and how long would it take? Thanks!


4.1 is the only current version for the fly. g7 software isnt being installed on flys. some were done during the time we were waiting for software but that was only for a week or so.we cannot install g7 software on the flys per wdp.

[KEN CRANE]

Bob if 4.1 is the software for the fly and 4.0 is not psp compliant why in the world did the tech booth is san diego flash me with the 4.0. why did I pay $25 dollars for software that isnt even good an now I have to pay another $25 plus shipping to get the right stuff
when you get a moment please call me and i will handle this as it seems as if i made the mistake 508-400-2007

[Luigi Speed 05]

And here we go again.... can someone please tell me what firing modes do I have in my recently upgraded Speed 05?? I paid the $25 at the Miami NPPL event, they upgraded my board, it has a firing selection mode where the top light now blinks in all the 3 colors, but I can tell what mode is Millenium, wha'ts CFOA and so forth... does anyone knows if there's a list that goes like "If top light blinking 3 colors; 1 light on the bottom = Millenium, 2 lights = CFOA"... or something like that? Please? Pretty please???

[BoB]

The 3 flashing lights are your mrof with eyes on (mrof starts at 15 and rises in increments of 3).. PSP is set by placing the TR into the highest setting (mrof is capped in this mode at 15). To place the marker in millennium/cfoa, set tr to 1 and mrof to 15.

[Luigi Speed 05]

Damn! Thanks a bunch BoB!!

[VXX]

hey what is the current G7 software? and what are the features??

I have 91:5 ?? it says on boot, but I have a tr of 22 and a MROF of 30... anyway, its totally different than what the manual says I should have. just curious. I have demo mode also.


and is there anyway i can get updated software without mailing my gun away or going to an event??

[KEN CRANE]

hey what is the current G7 software? and what are the features??

I have 91:5 ?? it says on boot, but I have a tr of 22 and a MROF of 30... anyway, its totally different than what the manual says I should have. just curious. I have demo mode also.


and is there anyway i can get updated software without mailing my gun away or going to an event??


9.15a

[VXX]

oh so i do have up to date software?