Local Field Refs

[nastylax8]

I know the refs are just trying to do their jobs but...
have any of you been pulled of of a field for shooting too fast. It happened with my 05 speed but not my dm4.

[ZoomZoom]

yes ive been pulled and checked for ramping

[maybachgt]

that has happened to me with my ramped DM5 but never a bouncing speed

[maybachgt]

quick question: some people say that "bounce" will accually push the trigger back like a response trigger. But I've always thought that it just thinks that the trigger is being pulled when it isn't

[ZoomZoom]

bounce can be done two ways mechanical or electronic

mech. is the trigger is litraly bouncing

electric is the board thinks its being pulled

[nastylax8]

dpends on the gun. On e-mags and other guns like that gas pushes the trigger back so you can basically tie a rubber band around the trigger and get it to continuosly fire. But on an angel it just makes the board think you are firing more shots that you are

[maybachgt]

ok thanks for clearing that up for me

[Neo]

ive never been pulled. then again i ref at my field also and most the refs are on my team so they know im not bouncing/ramping

[nastylax8]

i am pretty sure what i posted is correct. Correct me if i am wrong guys.

[Neo]

i am pretty sure what i posted is correct. Correct me if i am wrong guys.

it can be what you said, thats what the TR takes care of. however some mods, like removing the trigger washers, etc, can cause mechanical bounce

[maybachgt]

I removed the trigger washers and the trigger has a lot of side play. Will they make a trigger that works without the washers and has no side play. Like something will ball bearings

[ZoomZoom]

i took mine out and i have no side play at all

[big azn]

same, took them out and no side play at all.

[nastylax8]

mine was jigglying a little bit

[ZoomZoom]

mine was jigglying a little bit
are the screws that hold the trigger rod in tight

[shaq787]

yes there are

[El Pirata]

I know the refs are just trying to do their jobs but...
have any of you been pulled of of a field for shooting too fast. It happened with my 05 speed but not my dm4.Nope never happened to me.

[jwcardy]

hasnt happened to me yet either, but we will see after this weekend...this weekend is the first organized tourny that i will be in since i have had my speed...

[masterdebater]

i took mine out and i have no side play at all

mine came without them installed! :grin: no slide play.

[maybachgt]

i have to check that out thanks ZOOM

[maybachgt]

Do you think there can be a trigger with ball bearing for the 05 speed

[nastylax8]

isnt the 05 speed trigger already a ball bearing? not sure. only took it apart once to get to the washers

[maybachgt]

I will look at it more carefully but I dont think so

[maybachgt]

Ya I dont see any

[nastylax8]

oh.

[maybachgt]

can you put a fly trigger frame on the speed like you can put the speed on the fly

[ZoomZoom]

ya but why

[ArKanGeL31]

Yeah, i took the washers out, made sure i had no bounce, electric or mech, and have been pulled out numerous times for shooting to fast, only to have the refs spend about a hopper of mine to find that its legal :notsure:

[El Pirata]

Is that good or bad?

[nastylax8]

bad and good.
good cuz he is legal
bad cuz the refs waste his paint

[ArKanGeL31]

^^^ Yeaup

JR said thats why they put the washers in, cause a lot of players and refs were complaining that the guns were going "too fast". An attestment of how awesome angels are, you get pulled for a legal gun =P

[Peter314]

Do you think there can be a trigger with ball bearing for the 05 speed

The trigger already has ball bearings.

[El Pirata]

Do you think there can be a trigger with ball bearing for the 05 speed

I will look at it more carefully but I dont think so

Ya I dont see any
The ball bearings are pressed into the trigger itself. They use fully encased bearings like you use on radio controlled cars and such.

[ZoomZoom]

hahaha if you have read your manual raise your hand :hi: (i know El and I have)

[nastylax8]

i have

[Neo]

*raises hand*

[El Pirata]

hahaha if you have read your manual raise your hand :hi: (i know El and I have)In all honestly, I have browsed the thing but never read the whole thing cover to cover. A great deal of info is the same no matter which version of angel you have. :thumbsdow

[ZoomZoom]

i guess i was just owned (that sux)

[El Pirata]

I don't need a manual to remind if I hold my hand over the end of the barrel and accidentally pull the trigger, again, it will hurt like a SOB. I don't need a manual to tell me that if I remove a volumizer or lpr without bleeding the system dry of air I will launch the lpr across the room, again. I also don't need a manual to remind me that if the batteries die to replace them. Manhy many things are pretty common sense though I do forget a few of them from time to time.

[ZoomZoom]

I don't need a manual to remind if I hold my hand over the end of the barrel and accidentally pull the trigger, again, it will hurt like a SOB. I don't need a manual to tell me that if I remove a volumizer or lpr without bleeding the system dry of air I will launch the lpr across the room, again. I also don't need a manual to remind me that if the batteries die to replace them. Manhy many things are pretty common sense though I do forget a few of them from time to time.
i understand what your saying El what i meant is for the noobs that dont know angels before posting a noob question maybe they should read there manual

[Bigal1]

well,
I've read the manual at least twice but I couldn't tell you if it said the trigger had ball bearings or not. I haven't read it in a while.

Hopefully this forum will continue to provide a healthy atmosphere of teaching users (me) things I haven't learned from reading the manual or from taking the gun apart or even from the stickys that exist around here.

In my business we have a saying... "the only stupid question is the one you don't ask"

[ZoomZoom]

bigal your rite there is no stupid question but if it has been asked about 15 times it does get old :yawn:

[maybachgt]

Hey thanks for the bearing info sorry bout that

[El Pirata]

In my business we have a saying... "the only stupid question is the one you don't ask":dito: The only addition I would like to make is that is like Zoom Zoom said, as long as it has not been asked 20 times before, recently.

[Bigal1]

Zoom zoom and el, I'm with you. There is another forum that I go to (an electronics forum) and the difference between this forum and that is night and day. There, I read a few threads before I posted anything and what I saw again and again was the way the veterans flamed everyone who asked a question that in the history of man had ever been asked before. I mean it wasn't gentle nudging to do a search, it was obvious personal beratement (with a lot of swearing as well).

I can guarantee you that I searched carefully before I asked any question there. And it was frustrating because I was pretty sure I wasn't going to find the answers to my questions but the fear of public beratement is intimidating.

And frankly what you see on this other forum is that there aren't as many discussion topics and people rarely answer questions that are posted.

This, however, is a very valuable forum for the angel user and I hope to see it remain as one that I can rely on for good, helpful info. I'll offer this one analogy and then stop pontificating. If you went to the library and were told "don't ask us any questions until you've read all the books" that wouldn't be helpful. Certainly it would mean the librarians find themselves answering a lot of the same questions over and over again. But on the other hand, sometimes too much information ("read all the books before you ask") is actually more of a hindrence than help.

So anyway, who's playing paintball this weekend? I know I am. :cheers:

[El Pirata]

So anyway, who's playing paintball this weekend? I know I am. :cheers:
Working today and have to take my daughter to get her stitches removed tomorrow. Might try to get a game or two in at ATS tomorrow.

[ZoomZoom]

ya i just got my butt out of bed so i can make the 5 hour drive just to play it takes that long just to get to the closest indoor field...........but ya im playing this week end

[maybachgt]

I am taking the week off. I have to study. IT SUCKS. Wow ZOOM ZOOM 5 hours that sucks a lot. I can drive 20 min to one of the best fields in so cal

[El Pirata]

20 whole minutes. I thought is was bad for a 5 minute trip. The 5 hour trip is a total commitment!

[Bigal1]

Working today and have to take my daughter to get her stitches removed tomorrow. Might try to get a game or two in at ATS tomorrow.
where is (what is) ATS?

[Bigal1]

ya i just got my butt out of bed so i can make the 5 hour drive just to play it takes that long just to get to the closest indoor field...........but ya im playing this week end
I thought 45 minutes was total commitment.

[El Pirata]

where is (what is) ATS?Actiontown Sports at Fort Eustis.

[nastylax8]

where is that

[ZoomZoom]

I thought 45 minutes was total commitment.
out of bed again at the hotel (i love lab tops) going to get breakfast and its off to fsl paintball again..........the crappy part is i have to drive 5 hours to play rent a hotel room play the next day and drive 5 hours home, every weekend......i love this stupid game that much, now thats commitment. so i shoot as much paint as possable in a day 3 cases on sat. and 2 more on sun. some times even more than that. the weekend some times will cost me upwords of $500 plus (dammmm glad i have a good job) next weekend i have a tourney in madison wisconsin 8 hour drive :pat:

[El Pirata]

where is that
Fort Eustis, Virginia.

[Bigal1]

Fort Eustis, Virginia.
ok. I've played there. Good field. Just a little bit farther drive than from where I am down to Elizabeth City. And I hate going from Hampton into Norfolk through the HRBT. Unpredictable traffic.

Does action town have any other fields?

[El Pirata]

They had a field in Suffolk intil like 200 or 2001. At one point in time they had a field on Fort Story but that was mostly rec ballers and very sandy. I remember the owner of ATS wanted to promote field usage so he held a 3 man tourny on that field. While not being one of the worst tourny experiences I've had but it was by far not the best. As far as woods tournies goe it could have been way way worse. I remember the benefit of branches when someone is shooting at you. At one point in time I looked like I had literally been dunked in paint from all the splatter I had on me from a game.

ATS has been wanting another field in your neck of the woods but thus far they have not come up with any feasable options.

[El Pirata]

down to Elizabeth City. Where's the field in Elizabeth City? Have a web page link?