Tadao for A4 Flys

[Little Dave]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/BigbOYALA/fly1.jpg

Notice the White Tri-Color Led in the center? Thats the dead give away that it's a Tadao Product.

The board is a drop in board and works with all the stock wires.

More Info soon :bouncer:

[Sparco]

Yes, Will is working on a Tadao board for the Fly. That's actually my Fly (well his now) that I sent him for development purposes. Will has been hard at work for several weeks now in developing the product, as well as a board for the 05 speed. From what he's shared with me, it's going to be an amazing product.

Estimated completion date is not known (last I checked) but it's on the horizon.

[dynastySSS]

that seems pretty cool i guess.....it seems more after market companies are making stuff for angels now :)

[Raoul]

Interesting....

Gotta Website Addy?

Edit: I see the original push-buttons remain functional.

[timfactor]

it would have to be pretty sick for me to get rid of the stock board

[Ang3lSp33d]

Now Im wishing i didnt get rid of my angel :cry: But i know here my roots are.

[Crazy Train]

I'm actually thinking about trying one of these out once released. I would never try a different board if it didn't use the stock eyes,battery and solenoid. This board looks very promising.

[Raoul]

I'm guessin this'll require the Magnet Mod as well. I prefer springy to clicky anyday. (I keep getting bad flashbacks from my E-Blade dayz when I think about Mag Modding my Fly... heh!)

I'll wait 'til Ken get's done with his software wizardry before I get one of these. It sounds like he'll be done before this is out anyways....

[Paintballjc]

why not just stick with the stock board.... There is nothing wrong with it, and no point of spending money on something that isnt going to help performance.

[El Pirata]

There's the link. He's one of my teams sponsors. http://www.tadaotechnologies.com/

[trickytrix]

Well, I can tell you this much - Will makes INSANE boards, and I'm sure this will be no different. Personally, I can't wait for this beast to arrive. I've used Will's boards in my matrix, and they rock!

[scootie714]

Oh sweet jesus, Microswitches have finally arrived for modern angels outside ghetto was/ace mods :worthy: . Too bad it doesnt have an lcd screen though, that would just about make it perfect.

[fife]

So explain what the advantage would be to "downgrade" from a Fly board to a Tadao board?? No offense to Tadao, but Tadao makes boards for other guns that need to get close to where Angel is with their board. It also looks like in the pic that their board has a micro switch versus Angel's beam break?

I guess I should reword this to a question, what makes a Tadao board better than the Angel Fly board?

[JeffW]

This is good news for the folks that play in leagues that has imposed the 15bps rule,CFOA, etc). Since WDP hasn't come up with a solution for those leagues hopefully the Tadeo will have the modes for them. Unfortunatly I will have to shoot a Proto with the reflashed chip that allows it to ramp to 15BPS after the third trigger pull for a CFOA Hot 'Lanta Classic in Atlanta this weekend.

[fife]

WDP's software update will be most likely be completed before Tadao releases it's board. I think there are some "definition" issus that exist with the term "15 bps". Once that rule is detailed, it's more of a simple software configuration instead of a completely new board and software.

[Sparco]

It's impossible to compare the Tadao board to the stock board. The Tadao board hasn't been released. But it's all about customizing and giving people options. Look at the Cobra bolt, is that bolt really any better? Not from what I've seen... but people buy it. Why? Because they want to customize their marker.

The Tadao board will give the people who just have to have an aftermarket board in their marker another option. So far I think it's the best option. It provides the cleanest fit, the use of the current configuration (battery and eyes) and will more than likely be a very quality product.

If you like your Fly board, then keep it in your marker. No one will make you purchase a Tadao board. Plenty of people who support Tadao in their Matrix, Shocker or Intimidator who happen to shoot an Angel now have another option. Heck, maybe this new board will even bring more people in the Angel community. Perhaps people they strayed for markers like the Proto. I know I've already had two people contact me asking me if I knew when they could get a board for the new (used) Fly they're going to put it in.

[fife]

Thanks for the "comment", but I guess my question was...

quote: I guess I should reword this to a question, what makes a Tadao board better than the Angel Fly board?

The reason I asked (and I guess we probably won't know until it's out) is the technology built into the Fly board has provisions that allow for the most accurate and fastest trigger/BDS of anyone. Plus it doesn't use a mechanical switch to fire the marker? Just because Tadao can make a "jumpy" board and trigger doesn't imply any true benefits. Their boards are better than the stock boards in the current markers they are used in, but I can't see it better than WDP's. I've played with Tadao boards in the past on shockers and trixies, I'll agree they are "fun" but they don't quite have the speed or reliability as my Fly (3.7). However, I agree the true test is to see it in an Angel.

[trickytrix]

Concerning the 15bps cap

I think it would be sweet if the MT's came up with a new mode they could flash existing boards with that was simply called "PSP Mode" and it ramps to 15bps after you hit 4bps. That way I can still have all the capabilities of the existing software for other styles of play

[fife]

Yes! Fun mode and tourney mode :)

[jimjim]

Hi Sparco,

regarding the Cobra bolt, have you personally tried one.
The Cobra bolt increased my velocity by 15fps which allowed me to turn my mini reg pressure down, which to me is better. So buying the Cobra bolt is not just for customization.

Jim

It's impossible to compare the Tadao board to the stock board. The Tadao board hasn't been released. But it's all about customizing and giving people options. Look at the Cobra bolt, is that bolt really any better? Not from what I've seen... but people buy it. Why? Because they want to customize their marker.

The Tadao board will give the people who just have to have an aftermarket board in their marker another option. So far I think it's the best option. It provides the cleanest fit, the use of the current configuration (battery and eyes) and will more than likely be a very quality product.

If you like your Fly board, then keep it in your marker. No one will make you purchase a Tadao board. Plenty of people who support Tadao in their Matrix, Shocker or Intimidator who happen to shoot an Angel now have another option. Heck, maybe this new board will even bring more people in the Angel community. Perhaps people they strayed for markers like the Proto. I know I've already had two people contact me asking me if I knew when they could get a board for the new (used) Fly they're going to put it in.

[Sparco]

Jim,

Actually I have. I too noticed a slight FPS increase (approximately 15fps) and upon checking the changed inline pressure it went from 180psi to an incredibly low 168psi.

If making that sort of investment makes sense to you for a whopping 12psi, then by all means. In my mind it doesn't.

[jimjim]

Hi Sparco,

In a marker as highly advanced as the Angel a 7% decrease for $40 is a good investment in my mind. We all strive to improve the performance of our Angels as best we can and for $40 i think it's a cheap way to do this. Every % helps.

All the best, Jim

Jim,

Actually I have. I too noticed a slight FPS increase (approximately 15fps) and upon checking the changed inline pressure it went from 180psi to an incredibly low 168psi.

If making that sort of investment makes sense to you for a whopping 12psi, then by all means. In my mind it doesn't.

[Raoul]

Concerning the 15bps cap

I think it would be sweet if the MT's came up with a new mode they could flash existing boards with that was simply called "PSP Mode" and it ramps to 15bps after you hit 4bps. That way I can still have all the capabilities of the existing software for other styles of play

I think (but don't quote me) that's exactly how it's gonna werk....

[dirtywyrm]

what I think sparco is saying its up to the person who want to buy it and justify it however you want.

Does the cobra bolt make the gun shoot better than the stock bolt, I know it increases FPS and drops operating pressure but I couldn't ever tell a difference from one bolt to the next my angel still shot the same.

As far as tadoa boards, he makes great boards are they better than frenzy, was, etc....

I've shot Dm4 matrix and other guns with Tadoa technology, they work great but is it better than the next board.

Its all individual preference.

So if you want it great buy it,

if you don't you stated your opinion and why. leave it be, no ones forcing you to spend money.

I like will and his products, I'll definitely buy one of these boards.

[WDP ir3 2k3]

When is this bord going to be out?

[AngelFourKid]

If you read the 2nd post on this thread by Sparco, as for as he knows(Tadao is a sponsor of his team) the board does not have a set release date as of now.

[bobjim]

just a thought....if WDPs boards are already rated at 31 BPS then why would you need a aftermarket board? call me crazy i just dont see why spending another 100 bucks on a board is worth it.

-Eddie

[AngelFourKid]

This was discussed before in this very thread. If people want to buy the board for a few unique things or just to upgrade their marker, then they can. It's all about whether or not you personally believe that spending the extra cash will get you something way better or higher performance. It's all personal preference, if you like it/feel the need for it, get it. If not, dont.

[Sparco]

In speak with Will we spoke on the following ideas for his purposes of R&D:

- Intellifeed ready
- His infamous, multiple color LED
- The ability to use the stock eyes
- The ability to use the rechargable battery stack, switch and wiring
- The ability to charge the marker with the charger
- The ability to turn the marker on and have it be ready to fire instantly with no boot sequence.
- Uncapped semi-auto
- Various other modes of fire (PSP/CFOA)
- Automatically disable the eyes and switch to a pre-determined ROF when the eyes stop functioning (without pressing and holding the trigger down)
- Automatically enable the eyes when the eyes resume functioning.
- Be able to perform an eye test without navigating through an internal menu.
- AMB and such

In other words, Will is trying to design a board that has all the features of his Tadao boards, the features of the WDP Fly and features that users may or may not want. The board will not be for everyone, but for some people it's an excellent option at obtaining a quality aftermarket component.

JimJim, regarding your Cobra bolt. How do you figure that a 12psi inline pressure drop is a 7% performance increase? Let us continue to discuss the subject of this post here. We can make a seperate Cobra bolt thread if we want to hash percentages.

[tackle26]

in the angel menu, mode 4 and mode 5 are limited to 15 bps with the eyes on....so why would you need a software update?

[fife]

I think because the definition of 15 bps is not defined properly or specific enough as well as ramping/accumulating (mode 5). :notsure:

[Raoul]

• MODE 4: RAMP MODE
The ANGEL Ramp Mode works on the following principles:
• The Angel Eyes will default to ON.
• This is an 8 shot burst and will fire for as long as the trigger is held for up to 8
shots or until a paintball is not present.
• The BPS that these 8 balls will be fired, increases over the string of 8 shots.
• This mode is limited to a MROF of 15 balls per second.
• This mode will only work with Angel Eyes on and it cannot be deactivated.
• MODE 5: ACCUM MODE
The ANGEL Accumulator Mode works on the following principles:
• The Angel Eyes will default to ON.
• This is a BPS enhancer that will fire more balls than trigger pulls.
• This mode is limited to a MROF of 15 balls per second.
• This mode will only work with Angel Eyes on and it cannot be deactivated.

[xcarnx]

Tackle 26 go read the rules then try to get those modes to work under them for CFOA and PSP.

[trickytrix]

Regarding MODE 4 & 5

I started a thread not long ago asking if those modes could pass in the new rules, and someone recently replied saying they tried in LA, and there marker was deemed illegal, so no go there

I personally can't wait for the Tadao board

To me the LCD is un-necessary, and a microswitch feels so much better - but - as its been stated, its all personal preference.

I think I'll e-mail Will and see if I can be a beta tester...

[fife]

FYI, WDP is way ahead of the game. The new software is already being tested and will comply to the new rules set forth by each series. I have heard that there will be different modes (NPPL, CFOA, etc). The joy of programmable guns :).

[HIOCTANE]

My Brother's Matrix Has The Tadao Board And Its Very Fast, But He Lost The Lcd. All You See Is The Multi Color Light. It Will Be Nice If He Could Make A Board With The Lcd, but it would be great for a speed 05

[foxacho]

how much longer?

[fife]

FYI, WDP is way ahead of the game. The new software is already being tested and will comply to the new rules set forth by each series. I have heard that there will be different modes (NPPL, CFOA, etc). The joy of programmable guns :).

quote:
Here is the latest update. As everyone is aware Ken (Performance Angel) and I (FixMyAngel.Com) have been working exclusively with WDP for the PSP/CFOA compliant software option for the 05 Speed and Angel 4 Fly. The 05 software has been completed and we are done with the testing, it works great and there is no grey area. Ken or I will post on Monday which other Warranty Centers will have the licensing and programming to offer this new software option. Cost for the custom software will be $25 plus any associated shipping costs. Ken and I will also be offering the custom programming at Huntington Beach so you can save on the shipping fee's. Once the board has been flashed, the new software option will indicated by Ver 4 or 3.9

Bob

There you go :drink:

[DarkRipper]

So do both.

Get the updated WDP software and the Tadao board.

;)

[HIOCTANE]

When will the software for the fly will be ready.