Slow A4 [Archive] - Official WDP Angel Owners Group

g-pimp a4ripper

02-20-2005, 11:09 PM

I think to much power is going to the sensi, something with your board or a wire or something like that. It did the same thing to my fly i sent it i and now it does like 26bps.

knicknak14

02-21-2005, 01:23 PM

What loader are you using? If you have sensi on you could be capping it out.

TEAMNITRO

02-22-2005, 12:05 AM

go to www.theangelguy.com

Predator board is $350....lifetime warranty on the board and lifetime free upgrades. (includes laser eyes)

the board has a 28Mhz processor that is capable of 286,000 bps...Halo B with a victory or angry board and you've got a mean gun.

My A4 with predator will put out 35bps! Best thing you could ever do to your gun.

brent.
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Paintballjc

02-22-2005, 12:16 AM

gc82000

02-22-2005, 12:55 AM

I have a Halo B And I just changed the batteries out and it is better. I am now trying to get my trigger to be softer. I will get the vavle and internals greased tomorrow. And am going to let my friend work on it like he did his marker. He hit 28 with his.

TEAMNITRO

02-22-2005, 01:11 AM

..... to bad 35bps is impossible, because paintballs collide w/ eachother at about 29. Also, there is no loader that will go that fast

What?...you think I use a Revvy?

I have an A4 with Evolve kit and Predator Board w/ laser eyes.
My halo B has a victory board...victory boards put out 35bps...Angry Boards put out 40bps.

No, it isn't impossible.

TEAMNITRO

02-22-2005, 01:17 AM

http://www.eatonpaint.com/pd_odyssey_halo_victory.cfm

http://www.angrypaintball.com/angry-halo-circuit-board-p-22.html

proof.

brent.
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Paintballjc

02-22-2005, 02:13 AM

http://www.eatonpaint.com/pd_odyssey_halo_victory.cfm

http://www.angrypaintball.com/angry-halo-circuit-board-p-22.html

proof.

brent.
TEAMNITRO
haha... no they dont. That is just what they say... and if they do, its not consistant.

Paintballjc

02-22-2005, 02:14 AM

once again, paint would collide in mid air. So, proof right that.... its impossible

TenaciousM

02-22-2005, 02:39 PM

once again, paint would collide in mid air. So, proof right that.... its impossible

sorry i must be a little slow but for the paint to collide surely the first ball must slow down (and if first one slows down so would the rest) or the second ball would need to be faster(with ramping fps maybe)
seems like simple physics to me that if a string of projectiles are fired one after another at a constant velocity the gap will be the same for the life span of the shot.

ie: if you fire with a 2ms gap between balls they will stay the same distance appart until they run out of energy.

TenaciousM

02-22-2005, 02:45 PM

sorry i must be a little slow but for the paint to collide surely the first ball must slow down (and if first one slows down so would the rest) or the second ball would need to be faster(with ramping fps maybe)
seems like simple physics to me that if a string of projectiles are fired one after another at a constant velocity the gap will be the same for the life span of the shot.

ie: if you fire with a 2ms gap between balls they will stay the same distance appart until they run out of energy.

ok if you have a +/- say 10 fps over chrono maybe then you would have a problem but it would not be down to bps its all about the ball speed!!!

PouringPaintOn

02-22-2005, 05:30 PM

once again, paint would collide in mid air. So, proof right that.... its impossible

I saw an 04 viking do 31 bps with a q loader and there was no breaks, just one line of balls for several seconds. I even saw an e-mag go 30 bps ...although it had some breaks in the barrel.

gc82000

02-22-2005, 11:55 PM

Okay yes paint can collide in mid air. But it has to be a great variation in the size of the paint or the quality of it. It is easier to make crappy paint collide (like GAP, the low end JT paints) then good paint (like higher end Evil and Draxxus). Also if you use a large bore(.693+) barrel you can do this. I think on Automag.org they found that it happens between 31 bps and greater.

angelover

02-23-2005, 01:45 PM

First lemme answer the forums acual question. Try not using sensi and make ur MROF 25. If not make sure ur sensi is workin (sensi test). Also, u just might not have fast fingers. You never know. Also turn ur Tr down to 1 for more bounce.

PaintballJC is correct. Also did anyone think about the difference in wind resistance. If one paintball is fired right behind another, the paintball directly in front of it will deplete most of the wind resistance, therefore slowing down the front paintball and the paintball behind it will not slow down as much, making them collide. Also, all because it says it can do 35 BPS (the Halo B with V35), it only has quick short bursts of 35, definatly not a constant 35bps. Also on those videos of those guns doing 30bps, the paintballs collide in mid air a couple times.

Getting a new board is DEFINATLY NOT the answer to making ur A4 faster....sry TeamNitro.

gc82000

02-23-2005, 08:34 PM

Oh yeah I found the problem I was tightening the set screws to much. I loosened the screws and I am now back to hitting 24 bps consistantly. And no my fingers are not slow.

angelover

02-23-2005, 10:38 PM

HAHA! I must agree with that last comment.

gc82000

02-24-2005, 05:18 PM

Yeah here I am at the feild all mad and stressing cause I'm feeling slow then once I get home do all the work to find a problem. Alomst to the point of giving up and sending my gun off to the shop. think why dont I just look at it.
And I think maybe... if I just loosen the screws.... and solved it.

I felt like such a duma$$

alien abductor

03-14-2005, 03:07 AM

which set screws?

JTp8ntballer12

03-14-2005, 01:24 PM

im guessing the ones that lock the verneir wheels into place.

my angel was ripping forever untill the sd event and they made me lock my wheels... and i havent undone it yet... very sad, i cant even outshoot a egg now

gc82000

03-14-2005, 06:10 PM

yeah it was the veneir wheel screws. I guess I did not specify more up on top.

angel or die

03-15-2005, 07:54 PM

ya that dude talking about wind resistance is right

I took 4 years of physics

angel or die

03-15-2005, 07:55 PM

any gun you saw do 30+ either had a q-loader or i-halo

TEAMNITRO

03-15-2005, 10:28 PM

to bad angels cant go over 31 pneumatically

It's called an Evolve Kit....and here in a few weeks, I'll have those G7 internals in my gun.

angel or die

03-15-2005, 10:31 PM

how fast is the evolve kit go

TEAMNITRO

03-16-2005, 12:03 AM

how fast is the evolve kit go
it lowers the pressure to open the solenoid valve...to 10 grams, I believe. it isn't that it makes it THAT much faster, but my 70ci 4500psi tank will last through an entire case of paint. by the way, most people can't pull a trigger faster than 24bps. but with a little custom milling and those G7 internals, I'll have mine flying.

JTp8ntballer12

03-16-2005, 03:22 AM

it lowers the pressure to open the solenoid valve...to 10 grams, I believe. it isn't that it makes it THAT much faster, but my 70ci 4500psi tank will last through an entire case of paint. by the way, most people can't pull a trigger faster than 24bps. but with a little custom milling and those G7 internals, I'll have mine flying.

most people cant pull a trigger faster that 15bps....

gc82000

03-16-2005, 06:13 PM

most people cant pull a trigger faster that 15bps....

That is why they made ramp so ppl can feel special. But reall ballers can make their girl real happy. :evilgrin:

angel or die

03-16-2005, 08:56 PM

ya i'm with him personaly i can hit 19 which is pretty fast........I locking the set screws really mess it u for some reason

angel or die

03-16-2005, 08:57 PM

ya i wonder why guys with ramping chips don't have girlfriends

gc82000

03-17-2005, 08:59 PM

They might just not chicks worth bragging about. :bouncer:

Or their guys perfromance is just not worth bragging about. :goaway:

Klassy Guy

03-24-2005, 10:56 PM

did the ihalo come out if it is where can you get it because it isn't on odysseys website

alien abductor

03-25-2005, 12:44 AM

I was wondering, Does anyone know just how locking the set screws affect the BPS rate?

do you mean the trigger was set wrong by locking the set screws? I know that happens. :notsure:

Klassy Guy

03-25-2005, 10:07 AM

I figured out that the ihalo is just a intelli halo, sorry for the post, but with the predator mod do you loose the lcd screen.

logo

03-25-2005, 10:48 AM

yes

Klassy Guy

03-25-2005, 11:05 AM

thanks, i guess then i rather get my gun flyed, but not for a while, i am broke

TEAMNITRO

03-26-2005, 01:39 AM

I figured out that the ihalo is just a intelli halo, sorry for the post, but with the predator mod do you loose the lcd screen.

yes, but it is replaced with a single blue led light. everything is programmed with the trigger

Franks

03-28-2005, 05:55 PM

what do you guys mean by capping it out???

gc82000

03-28-2005, 10:46 PM

Dont know what you mean by this?if you are talking about capping out the gun it is hitting 31+ bps. But if you mean by capping out our selves it just means reaching the fastest you can get with your gun.