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pimpedoutwdpir3
02-16-2005, 09:50 PM
is it possible that a halo feeds to hard for an ir3. when ever i put on my revy it shoots fine although it cant keep up. but when i put on my halo it starts choppin like nothin every ball chops

Vantage_TeS
02-16-2005, 10:00 PM
Try getting a cobra instrucdent or whatever those are called. They help. Also put some grease on the drive belt.

Toolow
02-17-2005, 05:47 AM
This has been discussed 100 times over on these boards. Check out the specific HALO folder, you will find a ton. General consensus - Get an egg for your Angel, as halos do push too hard in most cases. I know mine 'did'.

FrontManDan
02-17-2005, 01:59 PM
It may be that your ram isnt quite adjusted right.

Gas it up then screw the ram forward till you get some resistance opening the breach. This should stop roll back a little

RonnyMcDYO
02-18-2005, 12:45 AM
To answer you question directly, Yes the halo exerts more then enough force to push the ball stack past the ball detent. There are other complications on this however. If you are to get a cobra detent (which I do recomend very good detent and you can change the spring in it) and you only use one you will have a slight miss alignment of the ball stack which will cause one of two things, the ball to get a small dent in it which will throw off accuracy. Number 2 the ball will roll back into the face of the bolt allowing the next ball in line to fall slightly into the breech, and when fired a small portion of the ball gets chopped off causing the bolt to either stick or you get a real messy breach. The best way to remedy this, 2 detents, to even out the placement of the ball stack and an A4 solf faced bolt, keeps the ball from rolling back into the face of the bolt keeping the ball stack straight. And just so your aware the Zboard also has enough force to push a ball past the detent so the EGG is perfect either you do need good detents and I defientley thing you need 2.

Toolow
02-18-2005, 09:05 AM
And before you ship your marker away for a second detent let me testify that I already have 2 on mine and it didnt help my halo chopping at all. Im using a soft face bolt as well. The chopping is due to the about to be loaded ball slightly entering the breech as the ball that is being fired takes off. This then breaks part of the ball that is about to be loaded and causes a number of problems. You know you are having this problem if after shooting a few hundred balls you have paint leaking from around your breach and your bolt and inside of your feedneck are drenched.

The egg solution seems to be the best, FYI.


:patriot:

Vantage_TeS
02-18-2005, 03:42 PM
You dont need two ball detents, I have a FLY'd LCD and I rock a Halo with only ONE ball detent.

There is a torque settings (pot switch) on the Halo boards, turn it down if you are chopping =D

RonnyMcDYO
02-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Like Vantage said you dont need 2 but having 2 would be the best option all around. And yes you should try and turn the halo tourque setting down.

FrontManDan
02-19-2005, 07:00 AM
i dont think thats torque settings although i may be wrong, i think its to do with jam mode, turn it all the way down and you will find that it will go into jam mode very easily

Toolow
02-19-2005, 01:10 PM
Dan:

They were talking about this at length on the Halo specific folder. Do you think maybe it jams a ton when you turn it all the way down because the torque has become insufficient to push the ball stack out, so it is jamming? Just a thought, it would be nice to know what it does for sure.

pimpedoutwdpir3
02-20-2005, 12:29 PM
i heard that to get to some of the dials on the halo you have to drill into the face plate

Vantage_TeS
02-20-2005, 02:20 PM
Uh or you could just take the shells apart?

qwertyuiop
02-20-2005, 06:08 PM
ya i heard that to

Toolow
02-20-2005, 06:40 PM
Some of the guys who had drilled their face plates did so in an effort to make the pot switch adjustable without opening the shells.

It is however not mandatory from what Ive seen, someone even posted a bunch of pictures of how to do it in the Halo specific folder. Look there.

pimpedoutwdpir3
02-20-2005, 10:18 PM
so if i messed with the "pot dial" would that make it so my halo would work, or would it still have problems

pimpedoutwdpir3
02-20-2005, 10:20 PM
could it be in any way the paint i'm using

Toolow
02-20-2005, 11:15 PM
Not sure about the pot switch. Ive only read about it, but earlier I had some time so I adjusted mine to the position the guys here recommended. Wont know how it works out until Saturday though, Ill report in about it then.

Toolow
02-27-2005, 01:34 PM
I was told by a pretty reliable source the pot switch adjusts eye sensitivity.

FrontManDan
02-27-2005, 06:09 PM
I was told by a pretty reliable source the pot switch adjusts eye sensitivity.

you want to be turning the sensitivity up if thats what those pots do

Toolow
02-27-2005, 08:48 PM
Yep, and that explains why turning it too far will cause the Halo to stop spinning. It is virtually blind at that point.

Just hysterical that it became legend here that turning that to 7'oclock would save Angel users. Even more hysterical that some guys drilled out the backs of their halos so they can adjust it 'on the fly'.

SuperFly
02-27-2005, 09:55 PM
I use to make paintball soup when I first got my Halo. Bought a Cobra IndestrucDetent. Turned the dial down on the Halo and greased the belt. Viola!!! Not one chop since.

I was always told the dial increases/decreases the force in which it pushes on the stack. I tried it with it off the marker. Held it in my hand and let let it force paintballs on my hand and noticed a little difference.

I don't know. Maybe I wanted it to work so bad, I imagined it. :notsure:

Toolow
02-27-2005, 11:22 PM
I think greasing the belt may have been your saving grace there. The good detent will definently save you from double feeds too.

Shorty7777
02-28-2005, 10:54 AM
Pot dial is for eye sensitivity. Turning it down will help dramatically if.. i repeat if you have an upgraded cobra detent or double detents. The stock or after market bullet WDP detent cannot stand the force of the halo and you will double feed. I recommend an A4 soft face bolt and cobra detent or double detents installed. The install will run about 50 with a detent installed.

Toolow
02-28-2005, 12:27 PM
$15.00 for drilling and tapping for a second ball detent here - www.warpedairsmithing.com

You need to buy yourself another to put in it though.