Every Angel has a Halo?

[Bigal1]

I read somewhere around here that someone had worked with Ken and found a potentiometer on the Halo B board that, when adjusted to the 7'oclock position their number of chops/ball breaks was significanlty reduced.


So, desperate for something to solve my problems, I took my Halo B apart and found the following:

First
1. I had never taken the Halo apart. Had it for about 3-4 months.
2. Had some chops early on.
There was a ton of paint inside the thing. Around the eyes.
It was cheap paint that I had used early on until I realized that paint quality does matter. (I've cleaned my angel eyes and the eyes on the Halo had more paint on them than the angel eyes.)
3.I found the pot just as described here on the forum in the 9 o'clock position. I reduced it to the 7 o'clock postion.

4. Shot 600 balls. Had 3 breaks. Just a smidgin of painton the bolt face. No paint inside the hopper. Angel eyes had a little dabble of paint on them.

5. Performance (as measured by number of chops and barrel breaks) is significantly improved. Used same hopper last weekend and was only able to play in three games all day as the rest of the time I was cleaning paint out of my gun.

For comparison, I used an egg on my gun last Saturday after the abysmal day at the field and fired 600 rounds and only three barrel breaks. So, Halo as adjusted got same performance on my gun as the Egg.

Whether or not the Halo eyes had anything to do with today's performance is uncertain. They did have paint on them.

I drilled a hole in the backplate of the Halo so that I don't have to take the Halo apart in the future to tweak the pot. Right now I have the pot at the 6:30 position.

If anyone is interested, I can take a pic so you know where the pot is and whether or not you want to drill a hole in your Halo. You should NOT drill the hole in the backpate with the backplate inside the hopper. There's no way you can do that without hitting the circuit board that's just on the other side of the back plate.

I've become an expert at Halo assembly as it took me 4 tries to reassemble it. The culprit was the lid spring.

Lessons learned:

I'll keep my Halo eyes clean from now on. I don't know how they could function properly with all the paint that was on them.

[Toolow]

<<If anyone is interested, I can take a pic so you know where the pot is and whether or not you want to drill a hole in your Halo.>>

Please do.

[Bigal1]

ok. snapped a photo this morning but I won't get it posted until tonight.

For Ken or anyone else: Technically, what's happening as this pot (that I referenced in above discussion) is being adjusted?

thanks.

[Bigal1]

Here's the pic. Used a 5/32 drill bit. Could use something a little bigger. 5/32 is plenty big to get a jeweler's screwdriver in there but my hole was just a little bit below where the pot actually is located. I wanted to be careful that my drill did not get caught on the outside lip of the piece of plastic because I figured it my break the plastic.c:\dsc00336.jpg

[Bigal1]

ok. here it is.

[Bigal1]

I give up. Anybody know how to get a pic to show up? This is ridiculous.

After waiting about an hour, it looks like the picture is actually in the post directly above. I guess it takes a few minutes for the server to update.

[Bigal1]

try number three

[Bigal1]

Another point worth mentioning: After I'm convinced I have the pot set correctly, I think I'll add some RTV or silicon sealant over the hole to restore the integrity of the backplate and keep dirt/moisture from having a direct path into the circuit board.

[Toolow]

Thanks for the pic man.

[PouringPaintOn]

I've chopped like 3 times out of the entire 4 months I've owned my halo b.

[gc82000]

I hardly ever chop and I have had my halo for over a year. are you using crap paint or is it just very soft brittle shelled paint.

[PouringPaintOn]

Naw I only chopped because my barrel was too small and all 3 times were successive like 3 shots in a row popped. After I switched up the bore size it was smooth sailing.

[Toolow]

No Im using very good paint. I was just at the field this weekend sporting my 12v revvie when I decided to pull out my halo and give her another chance.

Im running a freak kit with a perfect paint match, and high quality paint. I had just gotten done playing for like 3 hours without a single break in my gun. A lot of guys were running Shockers and I was getting tired of getting outshot so I figured I would put on my halo B and show them us Angels can keep up fine. I ran 2 full hoppers of paint in a row through my gun before I started to play with it and I had 11 breaks. Halo plan cancelled.

That is indisputable.

Either you guys are using the biggest paint on earth and just getting lucky, or you think that greasy colored film coating your gun innards is oil.

[Toolow]

I forgot to mention the day before at the field a guy had a speed and another had an older LCD. Both guys were running eggs and I asked them what that was all about. 1 had tried to use a halo B on his Angel but had the same problems I did, and the other just had always used an egg and didnt have any problems with it. Just an FYI.

Im sure someone out there runs an Angel with a Halo B that never ever chops, I just dont know him.

[Triumphant_Reign]

Alright, I'll fess up, I have an Angel 4 (not Fly), it has the following parts and settings:
Cobra Valve
Soft Face bolt
Large Volumizer
TR at 5
Dwell at 9
LPR at 50
Semi/Sensi Mode 1
Minireg Inline at 150-175
Angel AIR at 450
Powerlyte Scepter kit

I have both HALO B and Egg II with Zboard.

With the HALO B with Sensi on I will break balls in the BARREL when firing strings. Never problems when snap shooting. No chops, just barrel breaks.

When using Egg with Zboard I'll get empty shots when pulling strings, which has caused chops.

Evolve Valve? Nah, the Cobra Valve with LPR at 50 and Dwell at 9 smacks your finger, but unless your a really wuss it doesn't hurt.

My gun registers 24BPS when I set the gun to 25ROF and turn the Sensi off and pull a string. I have no idea how accurate this reading is, but unless I set ROF to 16, I'll always break a ball in the barrel regardless of paint. I've fired Tomahawk Winter (thick, thick shell), Marbillizer, Evil, and Zap Primer and I'll always get a ball break for at least at each pod load, when using the HALO and with the Sensi on.

I really don't think its the loader(s), I think the gun shoots too fast, causing balls to collide in the barrel and breaking.

Now is there anybody having this problem? No chops, but ball breaks?

[PouringPaintOn]

I have a stock halo b and I haven't had any problems with it.

[Toolow]

I have some pop in the barrel, not sure why, but if Im shooting ropes even after 1 hopper I will have paint coming out of the breach near the low rise, and the bolt all the way up to the inside of the halo feedneck is drenched.

I guess based on what you describe I would still be better with the egg because with eyes on my marker I wont have empty shots.

I wish I could get the halo in business, my marker is so fast with it running, its just been a total source of irritation as once you get eyes put on your marker you assume the chopping paint days are done.

[PouringPaintOn]

I even used really crappy and dented zap paint, with some of the balls already broken in the bag. It still didn't pop when I was shooting, I was shooting some wizzers but they never popped in my gun.

[Snooky]

When using a v35 halob I will have paint come from the breech but as long as its not crappy paint I wont see ball breaks in the barrel. Now last weekend using crappy paint and the halo it decided it wanted to barrel break up a storm but wasn't a choice of paint at the tourney.

Anyway I have resorted to using a zboard egg over my halo simply because it has no problems with it on and there are few times besides off the break where the speed is really affected.

[Bigal1]

With the HALO B with Sensi on I will break balls in the BARREL when firing strings. Never problems when snap shooting. No chops, just barrel breaks.
?


How do you turn 'sensi' off?

[angel or die]

halo's stil do not compare to eggs :taxi: taxi is a cool smily

:emmit:

[RatJ313]

that little pot is what is causng chops on the gun. if u turn it to around hte 6 o'clock position, it wont put as much pressure on the paint therfore reducing chops. if u adjust it past 9 it can burn up ur motor.

[Toolow]

The pot dial on a normal halo adjusts eye sensitivity, not ball stack force.

[RatJ313]

i knew i saw somewhere that it had to do with the power going to the motor and stuff. maybe ill find that somewhere and post up a link....

[Bigal1]

there's a link on here somewhere. it says that the pot adjusts eye sensitivity. not motor torque.

[shog1]

I have an Angel Speed 05....
I ran an empire reloader B(sound activated)....it chopped paint to hell and back(I did play a tournament indoors at the time)....so I swapped it for a Halo.
I still had chopping problems....but not as many,then after cleaning one day,
I couldn't get it to work properly at all...the symtoms were that it fed constantly with the eyes'blocked'....then stopped when clear???
Thinking that I'd trapped the wires somewhere...I took it apart again.
I narrowed it down to the eyes.If I slightly removed one of the eyes...it worked perfect...but played up again when I pushed it back in it's hole.
Apart from investing in a new set of eyes...or a new board,I fiddled with the
'POT' mentioned earlier....I found that if I turned it clockwise it got better.
Not being electronically minded....I don't know what it does...but it fixed my problem.Several loaders of Paint later,all is well.

[pbviper420]

I owned a z-eggy. It fed fine but after $25 in repairs, and not beeing able to play because of a broken hopper I decided to by a halo (A non brass eagle product) and have not broke paint, but more importantly have not broke the hopper.

[budda]

i just got my Halo jimmiyfied(intellifeed) and it rips off the paint to the gun .I was having breaks at first ,but it was crappy case Tomahawk paint.I switched to blaze and no problems just strings leaving the Freak barrrel.

[budda]

I also have a evo2 w intellifeed and it works great for my 02 Ripper Angel
Again no Breaks.

[NO_NAME]

does your i-egg work on your a4?

[Backman]

I have put at least 10 cases through my G7 with a Vboard Halo without a single chop. I'm not sure why some people seem to have problems. Maybe the fates have changed for me and now I have just gotten lucky.:puzzled:

[budda]

Yes it does ,very nicly as well.
Jim(Impact Paintball) did a great job on both of them.
I used them last weekend and used both trying to see which is the best.
They both ran great.

[CarvedArt]

Another point worth mentioning: After I'm convinced I have the pot set correctly, I think I'll add some RTV or silicon sealant over the hole to restore the integrity of the backplate and keep dirt/moisture from having a direct path into the circuit board.

I've used the end cap of a regular old Bic pen to plug the holes in the Eggs with the Z installed by using a #2 phillips screw driver to slightly enlarge the opening to fit. I'm sure you could use one to plug the hole you drilled in your backplate and I bet it would look a lot nicer than RTV.