design aspect of g7 applicable to other angels?

[infinite727]

ok guys this is a theory and if any of my thoughts are known to b false just correct me.

in the new g7 it looks as if the breech idea isnt totally redisnged but the twist knob in back simply pushed the ram forward which in turn pushed the bolt forward and locks the breech and eliminates the space found in earlier angels.

IF this is tru, then this COULD be used in earlier angels, all that would need to b done is the back plate milled and a twist knob attached to ram. this would eliminate the need for a pull pin in breech as well.

if this seems probable ill b trying it very soon

-seth

[tgaffner]

We had a discusion on chat a couple of weeks ago for a good hour on this. We came up with like 5 different ways the Breech COULD be closed.

But, none of us know for sure yet....

We have thought of your idea, but if it is true that would make it ALOT harder, if not impossible, to adjust your Ram. It would because then it would have to line up right to be able to use the On/Off Knob....

[infinite727]

tru but asumming you can get it in just the right spot it would work. i just tried it partialy and the breech stays shut and bolt is moved forwards far enuff

[Outerice]

you would have to get rid of the threads that the ram screw into. you can't just move the ram unless you turn it in or out. the threads would stop that from being possible on the older angels.
Also you need a way to still lock the breach because of the fact that it would want to move when the gun is shot and that would kind of pinch the bolt.

[Redsst]

if that is how the g7 ram and backplate work, then i have a whole new respect for the g7 and wdp in general. that would be a brillent idea if it did that.

[infinite727]

you only need to remove the threads if you go with the 'bumper idea' which i am now thinking wdp used. but i think wdp did not make the bumper to move the entire ram, only the shaft and hammer.

in my theory of it all you need to do is possibly make MORE threads so that your ram could move forward and lock the breech w/ bolt. also the bolt is big enuff that i dont think the "pinch" would affect it

[shaq787]

somwhere in the g7 thread i saw that the g7 that was on display did not have the ram or any other internals. industry security was the reason for that. if there was no ram then the g7 at the time when they were showin it off, the breach would have been constantly locked or constantly open. if any one was there when it was revealed, did u see the guy use the nob to open the breach?

personally i think it is just a pice of plastic with a single large thread on it. and the lockin rod has a elbow on the back side that fits into it, converting circular movenent to lateral movement.
that probably didnt make any sence, if i can ill sketch it and dig photo it and put em up here.

[shaq787]

aaaaaaaa §§§§.
just saw a pic and noticed that there is no hole for the lockin pin to hold the door shut.

nevermind that last paragraph.

[tgaffner]

aaaaaaaa §§§§.
just saw a pic and noticed that there is no hole for the lockin pin to hold the door shut.

nevermind that last paragraph.

But there is on the other side. It is also used when securing the Breech Block while milling is done.

[infinite727]

yea^

[shaq787]

ooooo ok, i didnt see that hole on the lower right side of the door so i thought it didnt have that standard pin lock system.

[TrashDoG]

So Im lost, does this mean we can upgrade the 5peed or Fly to have this new locking thing that pushes the ram forward when its closed?

[infinite727]

lol lik tgaffner and others said, theres complications with it. i tested it on my frenzyd speed and didnt see an improvement so, make what u wish of it.

-seth

[autocane]

I assume that you can lock the breech closed with the bolt itself. We all know that if the bolt is slightly forward of the rotor breech, you aren't opening it. You need to stick your finger in the feed neck to push the bolt back. The moving ram / bolt may work under the same principle to lock the breech.

[tgaffner]

lol lik tgaffner and others said, theres complications with it. i tested it on my frenzyd speed and didnt see an improvement so, make what u wish of it.

-seth

:lifeaway:

[paintmauler]

ok im a very lazy person n deicded not to read all these posts b/c i hav been reading these n pbn for hours :blue: but anywho....could i get the new noid for the g7, put it in my fly, and mill that fatness down in the back?? :drools: :clap:

[TrashDoG]

lol did that question even remotely have to do with this thread? Like.... at all?

[paintmauler]

design aspect of g7 applicable to other angels?
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