What is Missing from GHTP?

[RGertner1]

What do you think they should have added to GHTP?

I was thinking about what makes a game fun and adds to the longevity of it, and they added the majority of the stuff in. Creating a player and adding attributes to make him a better player, upgrading the equipment, etc.

This is what I think they should have added:

Breaks - Who plays a whole season and never breaks a paintball? You should have breaks that you need to squeegy.

Gun Upgrades - Not only should you be able to upgrade to a different marker, but they should have been able to upgrade the guns too. Different Regs, etc. each one affecting the performance of the marker.

If they make a second game, I hope they include those in it.

Thanks,

[crashdan]

greg will not add breaking of paint... i asked him that over teh summer.... and i dont think he's going to add upgrades in future versions... but i agree to the attribute chooser.. theplayers in teh game already have them chosen, but i think we should be able to choose attributes and make a super player

[paintreliever]

i like the upgrade part..and like changing ur lenses on u mask and having the abiltity to change the color of ur gun anyway u want it..like a custom anno place

[saucey360]

I was really madd they didnt do this and i know everyone has wanted to do this just l;ike tony hawk CREATE A FIELD MODE!!! and just lkike tony hawk when you play it online you can play on people fields and we all know activision is capable of doing this too.

[MambaKiller123]

im kinda disappointed.. what is there to do after you beat the tournament mode? not everyone has xbox live so not everyone can play online.. so its kinda boring now..

i also was wondering how come dynasty isnt in the game or russian legion? or are they and i just havent came accross them some how (witch i doubt cause i already beat the game)..

[Neo]

in terms of controls, the one thing they left out is jumping! what if u wanna jump over the lay down snake to bunker someone and then dive into the snake. ya i know you can dive, but you cant jump over the lay down first!

[paintreliever]

yes..cause i tried that with rocky and i was not happy with what happened

[Flynn]

there are a couple of things i have been thinking of with my friends/team, you should have to pay for paint, entry fees, traveling fees, get sponsorships, different upgrades on guns which is mentioned above, have tournaments that also give out prizes like guns to first and HALOs or something like that to second, be able to sell your old equipment, be able to create a team name that doesn't include TEAM< i hate that, create your starter team not just pick 1 of 5 weird looking people, have every type of gun in the game, just make look a likes, that have accuarate ratings and prices, and same with other equipment

that's what i would like to see in GHTP2,

[p8ntbllr2001]

i kinda like the barrel break idea, i have played tacticla game were your gun can jam and u need to clear it.

[paintreliever]

flynn- u have summed up everything i was thinking...i dont really like the barrel break idea...maybe like once or twice in a tourney AT MOST

[paint_solija1224]

yea i thought it was kinda wierd that you could only pic one of 5 players. and i also thought it was strange that the only way you could play with more than one person without xbox live was with a system link. i am the only one on my team with an xbox so now we play one on ones to see who gets to play

[PakmanRevd]

Just like THPS It will take a while to get it amazing

[Barber]

Having prizes with tourny wins
Upgrading guns
More guns (timmies, angels, ICD guns, AKA guns, etc)
Gun colors
All 'real' stuff (no uncle death stuff)
Choices of paint
more jersies and pant choices
More tanks, with catagories like 'recharge rate', not just capacity
More pros
Create a player
Create a feild
Longer Career mode
Bigger team roster

[thog94]

Barber, a lot of what you said has to do with sponsorship. With only a certain amount of companies sponsoring the game it limits the products available.

However, I do agree with you that some of the stuff would be nice to have.

I also think that saucey360 has an excellent idea with the field creating.

[boathouse]

Me to the pro player list.

[Flynn]

well i think GHTP just needs to jump from where it is to stuff like Tony Hawk Underground, where you start out at a local feild, and do a series of tournaments to get money, and the local sponsorship, then they send you off to play in novice tournaments, then you get a big sponsor and move up to amateur, and there it should be like the current NPPL where you have to be the #1 division 1 team to go into the pro division

still there needs to be a lot of sponorships, and i really think selling you old equipment is one of the most important things, because sometimes you need the cash to play,

Realism needs to be put in, BUYING paint, PAYING feild fees and traveling fees, ball breaks if you gun doesn't have eyes, or you have a Halo on something like a spyder, and you need to be able to get upgrades to your guns, and have a calendar, where you plan practices and stuff, and when your getting your gun upgraded it takes a couple of days on big things EX getting an angel flied would take a week away from being about to play because your gun is gone, and throught practices and tournaments are the only way to get better, some of the attributes you should have are, Awareness, vision, speed, jumping, finger speed, reload, accuaracy,

well now we just have to get Greg to look at these and hope that he puts it into the game

[paintreliever]

we should be the ones making the game

[Flynn]

really i think we have a bunch of great ideas we just have to get the developers to look at them and put them into the game, but the way everything works is to make lots of money not to please there customers, so they will make a couple of the game before they put in what we want, like with Tony Hawk

[paintreliever]

yea..they make the game good, but they dont put all of the ideas in at once

[mrgr8ness]

I think the create a player needs more choices in your players appearance. Also be able to create a complete team. Need more team logos, and your team name shouldnt be the name of your character. Also needs better single player modes besides career. Should be able to play single game, with custom characters, mix of pro players, or even teams from any division. In this mode, have access to all gear and guns. Game also needs more real players, in pro division and all other divisions, so when you beat career mode you can play again and have different players that randomly become available to draft. Oh, and your view should be a little different depending on the goggles.

[JTp8ntballer12]

1word (maybee 2)

slit-screen!!

[bigtimer179]

you be able to choose sponsers for your teem and §§§§ like that.

[Neo]

1word (maybee 2)

slit-screen!!

yes! only like two of my friends have xboxes, neither plays paintball, so my paintballing buddies cant play with me on my xbox! split screen would be a BIG PLUS.

[Hendrix]

I am very dissapointed with GHTP. So many different things that piss me off.

[thog94]

I am very dissapointed with GHTP. So many different things that piss me off.


Just be thankful that they actually made a paintball game. I guess that if they didn't you'd be complaining that there wasn't one ou there yet.

The company isn't going to satisfy everyone. They need to cater to the sponsors of the game, but at least it's out there for us to play.

[sharps990]

an actual story would be nice

along with better gun animations and player/team guns animations.

once your out your out and you watch the rest of the game, prolly not the most popular thing but it could be a nice option

sharps

[Neo]

I am very dissapointed with GHTP. So many different things that piss me off.

Keep in mind this is not a thread for bashing the game, but a thread of suggestions for what could be the next GHTP.

If you're gonna bash it, do it in another thread, not here. We're looking for constructive criticism.

What didn't you like about it? Were there certain aspects of the game you felt were flawed/could be improved? Let's hear why you don't like it.

[Flynn]

What didn't you like about it? Were there certain aspects of the game you felt were flawed/could be improved? Let's hear why you don't like it.

EXACTLY, now we just have to find who to send it to and send it to them so that maybe the next game will be better,

[Hendrix]

Just be thankful that they actually made a paintball game. I guess that if they didn't you'd be complaining that there wasn't one ou there yet.

The company isn't going to satisfy everyone. They need to cater to the sponsors of the game, but at least it's out there for us to play.

I'm not at all thankful they made it because I wasted $40 on it.
:madd:

[Neo]

you still havent answered my question. What things about GHTP did you not like? You've gotta have some reasons to back your claim!

By giving reasons your helping improve the next GHTP. That way you won't be so disappointed next time!

[Hendrix]

poor graphics
only 1 person player
no create a field option
slim player choice as well as choice for gear
controls (I'm not used to XBox controls)
The fields are just the same ones over and over again
overall very unrealistic
teammates dont do anything whereas the opposition does, making it almost all of them versus you.
music (I know it sounds wierd but the music is really annoying) but that's an easy fix, just mute the music.
the game basically encourages cheating

just a few things. I'm pretty picky about things like this

[Neo]

i noticed all those things too, i just tried not to let them bother me. yes it does encourage cheating which i dont like, but you said its unrealistic, but wiping is real...

music - you can use the custom soundtrack thingy. i listen to 311 while i play - good stuff.

fields - i dont think they are the same, but maybe im just not paying attention

gear choice - thats limited by who endorses/sponsors the game

graphics - i think they arent the best but they arent below par in terms of todays games.

these are just my opinions, not trying to discredit yours, but simply "defend" myself :fence:

[Hendrix]

not trying to discredit yours, but simply "defend" myself

I was never trying to attack you

[Neo]

i know, thats why i put it in quotes lol

[Hendrix]

ahh ok. hehe

[Neo]

:cheers:

[JTp8ntballer12]

the bots needs to cover lanes better, its to easy to bust a run thru

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

I think they should adopt a small team management system so you can choose agressive or defencive positions w/ your team while in play. Like Ghost Recon 2 or NHL 2005. And how about an Xball edition. That teaches time management as well.

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

Because when you think about it, your team always finds a way to run infront of you off the break

[paintreliever]

yea..i like the way u think

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

thanks man

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

I mean i agree with the statemants said on the first page saying they should be able to upgrade your gun along with map creator but i dont think its possible for WXP or whoever to make a game up to the standards of what us "true paintballers" would like. Now if a company like EA games did it, well then we would be in business

[Hendrix]

Well it was made by "true paintballers" so no excuses :nono:

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

what do you mean?

[Neo]

Because when you think about it, your team always finds a way to run infront of you off the break

soo damn true!

[WDP ir3 2k3]

They need more Guns

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

How about being able to use an Angel in the season. Instead of being gay and cut it short at the WGP Autococker

[Hendrix]

what do you mean?

It was made by professional paintballers...

[Outerice]

one thing they messed up on is that the made a cocker the fastest gun in the game. When the hell has a cocker ever been the fastest. I have been beating up on cockers for at least 11 years now. From back when i was an all out agd automag fan.

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

I never knew it was made by pros. Who worked on it?

[Hendrix]

Heh, Greg Hastings in particular... :lol:

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

anyone else?

[walbuls]

The need to make it where you can do it with 4 ppl at once sorta like halo maby 4 boxes of 4 man teams playing not just a 1 player game with a big dissappointment to me . :pat:

[martinpaintball60]

ok i beat ghtp like 2 ive seen differnet things both times but what i like is some of the guns like the dm5 and the karnivor(very nice) but i think u should have made the angel force a little faster than it was and i did like the field create idea and i would like more styles for the player when u first choose who ur player will be.(more people to choose from or a thing like u know in like madden and all those football games how u can break down the people into different parts and design like that). i think there should be more modes to play on. the tourny gets boring after u beat everything and make a multiplayer not just being on live.

[JTp8ntballer12]

-split screen for sure

-more gun models, anyone notice that like all the models on live is just the karnivore with a different skin?

-the paintballs shoot way to straight, but i guess thats kinda good in a way

-choosing the color of your stuff would be nice too, i see alot of people that wear all blue dye stuff, you should be able to make it red if u want to match the dm5.

[paintreliever]

yea..i want like a custom anno place....

[drewbug3]

WXP-Activision def. have :again: the technology to create a higley in-depth game. It's a good start, but they kinda slacked in the detail department. All the suggestions you guys made need to be improved upon(My Opinions=ex. when you system link you should be able to choose a team, not just one on one; also the guns shot just as fast with all the hoppers. I also dont like the fake mag you get right away, agd has made vast improvements over ther original .68, ex. custom rt pro ule. You should start with a spyder as most people do.) We need to make an offical list of changes that need to be made and get signitures, and send them to wxp and activision.

and for the angel force hatters it takes 12 sec to empty the hopper, which if you test is the same as the dm5, karnivor, cyborg, and shocker.

[saucey360]

Ya I want to be able to change color of my marker and I mean comon put a little more detail into gun models when you watch someone in 3rd person cause if you look everygun looks almost evactly like a cocker with different color. Definalt make create a player better buy either wearing a hat(forward or backward) beanie, headband or nothing. Have choice in colors of jerseys. TAKE THE STUPID REMARKS OUT!!! you know like the "Get Out dummy" or when guy freaks out "WHAT, NO WAY THAT SUCKS!!!" Just put in like, "Get out" or something. also i know its hard but make the cpu a little smarter i mean when its a 5 on 1 and your the only one moving up and usally getting out while your guys stay back and watch. I wouldnt put chops in cause i know all you would be gettin pissed whn you chop and someone comes and bunkers you. And like someone said put jumping in it and like diving over snake.Also like someone said have like a tactic bar that has 3 options Rush,Stay back,Normal. and an x ball field would be nice, make 2 different divisions nppl and psp or xball.

[ive3son323]

i want 2 player or 4 , be able to jump and more movmanets that you can do on the field and i want a story mode like nfsu2 that would awsome (like u start off as a punk kid that gets a paintball gun for his b-day or something and then he moves up in his paintball career). o and this is a tight smily :buckeye:

[glacialtrix]

major thing though is multi player word

[pballer2]

u know what would be nice is to have a owner mode like madden 2004 and create ur field and maintain ur store and to have commands like socom II.

[speedmarvelizeR]

Be able to trip over the cords that hold the airball bunkers up........ ha

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

How about content download, like in Ninja Gaiden. There could be sick upgrades on fields, teams, or an exension to the season

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

also, i dont know if itwould be cool, but it would be realistic if balls could break in the barrel and you would have to pull out a swab like you have to reload. but i dont know if that would cool though

[Twisted Death]

ok i think that everything that everybody on this thread has said should be in the next game. whether they put them all in the second or whether they eventually get them in by the fourth is up to Activision. all we can do is let them know how we feel about the upgrades that need to go into the GHTP 2. i definately think we should let Activision Value or WXP know of these. Anybody know how to show them what we think?

we definately want:

-split screen (2-4 players)
-upgradable guns
-a custom anno place
-a field designer
-a career and also more modes like a custom single game where all the guns and all the players are unlocked and playable
-more team options (ex: creating more players, team name options)
-have to pay for paint and tournaments
-more guns and more sponsors
-better storyline
-better graphics and better computer AI and your own team's AI (if possible)
-being able to sell your equipment
-more colours for jerseys and pants, etc.
-(this one im not sure about...i thought up a solution though :puzzled: ) breaking paint in the barrel - probably to an extent and then once you get a good enough hopper you don't break any more. :bigok:

ok that's all i can think of right now - too tired....if anyone else has anything else just reply and i'll add it to the list and then we'll make one big list and try to get Activision to hear our thoughts and opinions. I definately think it's too much to ask to have it all put into the 2nd but it's better that we just pile it on them and hope for whatever they put it. it's good to express our opinions to them.

props to Activision Value-WXP for being the first companies to make a one and only, so-far, great paintball game. (for the best console out there...XBOX!!)

:canada::drink:

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

Dont forget the on the fly team management!(break left, break right, agressive, defencive)

[angelkid1001]

More Angels

[IRISH_ranger54]

hell yeah

[paint_solija1224]

it would be tight if your gun broke and you would have to send the gun to the MT's

[paintreliever]

yea, but then we need a way to make money..LOTS of it

[paint_solija1224]

well yea and it would be like THPS where you would run around and do stuff for money

[iwanaspeed]

i wish they would make teh force fly good and you could buy it

[speedmarvelizeR]

l.ol, if u look at the force on the game close enough, it has a front block, like a cocker, its hilarious.

[Ronin Samurai]

one thing the ganme is missing is variety, there are onyl 4 high end guns in the whole game. it also need content download, an editor, amd the thign that someone said abotu choppin is dumb, because if u have a high end gun ull never chop, ive never chooped otu of 12000 pb's in my speed 05.

[bStiffler582]

Sounds, all the guns sound the same. This is just laziness here. They should merge with the Digital Paintball guys. They're games come along way, and it's great.

[Twisted Death]

need content download, an editor, and the thign that someone said abotu choppin is dumb, because if u have a high end gun ull never chop, ive never chooped otu of 12000 pb's in my speed 05.
I totally agree with everything you just said. the chopping thing is so true and the editor would be §§§§ing awesome! :drink:

[pimpinsaylor]

i think theangels should shooot faster than the autococker but then again unless greg is sponsered by wdp it wont happen

[angelguy3]

You should also be able to switch barrel backs, according to weather and paint size.

[p8ntballer710]

im kinda disappointed.. what is there to do after you beat the tournament mode? not everyone has xbox live so not everyone can play online.. so its kinda boring now..

i also was wondering how come dynasty isnt in the game or russian legion? or are they and i just havent came accross them some how (witch i doubt cause i already beat the game)..

i dont know about russian legion, but dynasty isnt in it because the players are on your team.

[Twisted Death]

i dont know about russian legion, but dynasty isnt in it because the players are on your team.

haha i'd have to say that MambaKiller123 must not know dynasty well enough. that was a pretty dumbass remark :stooges: for somebody who's on the angel owners forum.. haha nice come back p8ntballer710! :cheers:

[paintreliever]

what are you talking about

[Twisted Death]

the post above.

[hans02]

I was talking with aguy the other day, and I came up with a cool idea. I know that there are a few places you can unlock to play at, and I came up with a good idea. In a grocery store. You can have shopping carts, loud speakers calling for a clean up in Isle 4.
So I guess my suggestion is to have more levels to unlock and play. And maybe have like charity events once you become a pro, and just fun stuff like that.
And about the jumping, and barrel breaks and stuff, one thing that needs to be considered is how many buttons are on a controller, and the functions that will be eliminated when you add these.

[josh_hill]

i dont know about russian legion, but dynasty isnt in it because the players are on your team.

I dunno if that is viable or not...Destiny and the Femmes are in the game, and you can still have Lisa and Bea on your team. XSV is in the game and you can have Cuba. There are some others in there as well.........I have to go play now that I've been reading this. I've had withdrawls, and I have a tourney tomorrow...this will help me calm myself.

[Twisted Death]

And about the jumping, and barrel breaks and stuff, one thing that needs to be considered is how many buttons are on a controller, and the functions that will be eliminated when you add these.

um...with an xbox controller, and some well-thought out layouts, you can have over 50 different actions for only 9 buttons. an example is holding down the white button and selecting an option. that opens endless possibilities. you could have a gun action panel that when you hold down black button, you can select what you want to do (ex: reload/fill hopper, squeegee barrel, etc.)

i'd have to disagree with button functions being a problem, there are so many ways that you could think up dynamic menus with only one push (or hold) of a button. :evilgrin:

[pballer2]

yea think of socom II

[Twisted Death]

yea think of socom II
never talk about a ps2 game in an xbox thread ever again. ur a disgrace!

[pballer2]

no im talkin about the command setup on that game it can happen on the xbox

[hans02]

Yeah but I think it is retarded having to press white button three times X once and white button again to execute just to do a f*** function! Now the PS2 controller is a lot easier to do this because you have L1, L2, R1, R2. It is my personal preference just to not have 16,000 funstions that occur by various combinations of buttons. You are probably about 14. I was raised on NES, so forgive me if I prefer one button is jump and another is run or spit fire, etc. So get off my case, this is solely an opinion thread, and you have your opinion and I have mine.

[Twisted Death]

Yeah but I think it is retarded having to press white button three times X once and white button again to execute just to do a f*** function! Now the PS2 controller is a lot easier to do this because you have L1, L2, R1, R2. It is my personal preference just to not have 16,000 funstions that occur by various combinations of buttons. You are probably about 14. I was raised on NES, so forgive me if I prefer one button is jump and another is run or spit fire, etc. So get off my case, this is solely an opinion thread, and you have your opinion and I have mine.

wow dude chill...ur right, it is opinionated, and I simply stated my opinion...nowhere did i bash/insult u. or mock u. i was just disagreeing (my opinion). and i am 15? and so what? a 15 year old should be playing video games, not a 20+ year old (if ur that age). i was raised on NES and sega genesis. i know what you mean, but in this day and age of gaming, you NEED to be able to hold a button to pull of different moves/actions. i'm not saying everything has to be like that, i was simply making a suggestion....so....are the all-mighty "NES-gamer" says (that's you): get off my back, it was simply an opinion. :stooges:

[Wylde1]

i think we need to see more angels, more choices of high end guns, definatly multiplayer on the same screen, the guns in the game look weak try and make them more real looking, like the cagnoni angel looks like an orange dynasty shocker in the game. the one thing they DID do well is the sound of the balls hitting the bunkers it sounds just like the real thing.

[esandov]

Those who are squaballing.. CHILAX! We are bonded by our love of angels, let us not forget this...lest this become PBN ;) .

Anyhow..what GHTPB needs? Hmm....
a $40 rebate ;)
a free pizza from Papa Johns (and a tip for delivery or a 2 liter)
Sponser stickers in the game...werd up!
unlockable gats
encompass different formats (Stock baby!)
smaller 'uber respected' sponsores (CCM, Sanchez machine, Stiffie, Shocktech, CP)
an entirely new AI (back to the drawing board, it was as lame as tofu and soy bro, mad wack!
a GHTPB specific controller (2 finger trigger buttons), that would be tight

and I'm spent.

Honestly, this was a great first attempt. Great job getting us ballers out of the dark ages. Plenty of room to make the game better though. What will make or break the series is wether they are cheap with the improvements. If there is like a single upgraded option, I will not buy the next one. If it incorporates some of the previouse power features, like create a feild and better AI, I'm in.

[Twisted Death]

haha dude u are one funny-ass guy. that sh*t had me cracking up!

[XSSPL]

i was dissapointed that you can't design and call plays for off the break. It would also be nice to be able to "direct traffic" as an on field captain. THat would be really nice - tp be able to direct an all out "snake dive" coupled with a push up the middle. :D

[beaverbuddy]

Make it for PS2...

[Twisted Death]

f*ck u. PS2 sucks....period. if u have an angel and PS2 u are a disgrace to everybody on this forum and every other angel owner.

HAHAHA! :angry: :thefinger :moon:

[fwilliams]

basicly a story kind of like espn winter x for the ps2 and a player design mode like tiger woods. you should also be able to control the way you peak and hold your gun. There shou also be all of the above but instead of makeing a team mabey having a choice between that and tryouts and getting recruted.

[cereal_killer44]

maybe like mode changes? like ramp, full auto, bursts, semi. just a thought

[Twisted Death]

maybe like mode changes? like ramp, full auto, bursts, semi. just a thought
nah not for speedball. if u've ever played speedball (professionally) you'd know that nobody uses anything but semi.

good suggestion for a bushball kinda game though!

[paintreliever]

i hope you were joking..i mean, seriously.........

[Deep Sixx]

nah not for speedball. if u've ever played speedball (professionally) you'd know that nobody uses anything but semi.

good suggestion for a bushball kinda game though!

LOL Yeah, definitely. Pro ball is strictly semi-only. :stooges:

NOT!!!!

sixx

[pballer2]

hello people theres xball and all and anyways theres a cheat meter might as well practice cheating with ramping and all if your gonna wipe, wiping is more serious than ramping

[TeamInvisionCaptain1]

I bet everybody realized this but the entire game is ramping.. there def, needs 2 be a choice of modes, and both nppl and psp/nxl tourneys

[Smitty_Red_speed]

they should have the robot and be able to change mode in game like the guy from dynasty i know it sounds bad but it is what the game is now what about creat a gun like creat a trick in unerground 1 and 2 one more thing barrels were all the same therid a kinner could go on a spyder

[p8ntballermark]

The first one already had a ramping gun: The Carnavore, Shoots 2 shots a trigger pull most of the time, one on pull one on release. And hasnt anyone read the review most of the stuff you want is in it. Split screen, before the game you can tell your team where to go, etc.

[Sparco]

I think the next logical progression is to do "off-field" situations. Look at how all of the EA Sports game and the new "Blitz" game has progressed. You can spend more time off-field doing things then you can in the game. Structure the game as follows:

- Arcade
- Tournament mode
- Skirmish mode
- Career mode

Structure the career mode like a franchise mode. You manage (and play) on a team, you have to manage team funds, set a schedule based on those funds and organize airfare or paint costs. Make it almost like a full managed "team" and have variables such as rain, broken guns, stolen equipment and bad press on a forum or magazine.

Now that'd be worth playing.

[Twisted Death]

yes it would. But I wouldn't want them to get too distracted with that. And anyway's what they need is a better publisher/producer for the game. THQ or Activision - whoever it was that did the last one just doesn't put enough effort into their games. but that franchise mode would really be cool!