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sloppy75
11-01-2004, 04:41 PM
well.. Here is what happened

I purchased 1 of 30 force speed about 3 weeks ago from one of the well known MT store with full mag/mt trigger mod. I recieved it very next day and it was done and packaged very well so I was very happy. but i had no clue how to use the board cuz it came with fly manual. later that day i downloaded euro-speed manual and found out that it had only one firing mode(semi). i tried verything messing with internal/external switch and trigger to change the mode but It wasn't changing.

this is exact copy from www.angelforce.tv

"Exclusive Speed Force Eye Board:

This is an enhanced version of the board used in the coveted Euro Speed. Featuring previously unavailable Speed modes like Full Auto, 3-Shot Burst, Double-Action (fires on pull and release of trigger), and Demo Mode to provide unmatched rates of fire. In addition to the extra modes, the Speed Force Eye Board provides users with the most powerful beam break eyes on the market, and adjustable debounce. Every user from recreational to professional will love the simple to use LED board, you simply turn it on and it is in live mode ready to shoot. Previously available in Europe only, Angel Force is the first and only company to offer this great technology in a custom marker!"

ok.. i definately did not get the firing mode that i was supposed to get. I called them up. the tech i talked to had no idea what i was talking about, so he promoised me that he will call back. next day he called and said it needed to be programmed and they don't have software at that moment so he would call me back when they get it. I was waiting for over 2 weeks and called him today. this is what he said " IT DOES COME WITH ONLY ONE MODE. IT DOES NOT HAVE OTHER FORCE MODE. CALL KEN CRANE AND HE WILL EXPLAIN." but.. i coudn't reach him. and i don't want explanation why I am not getting what i paid for.

I was ready to send the board out to get it programed which shouldn't have happened in the first place, now I have to be happy with i got? this is like you paid for M3 for more power and getting 325i. whatever it is i am very mad and afraid that i might have made very bad choice. am i over-reacting? i don't know what to do now, please anyone give me an advise.

KEN CRANE
11-01-2004, 07:56 PM
well.. Here is what happened

I purchased 1 of 30 force speed about 3 weeks ago from one of the well known MT store with full mag/mt trigger mod. I recieved it very next day and it was done and packaged very well so I was very happy. but i had no clue how to use the board cuz it came with fly manual. later that day i downloaded euro-speed manual and found out that it had only one firing mode(semi). i tried verything messing with internal/external switch and trigger to change the mode but It wasn't changing.

this is exact copy from www.angelforce.tv



ok.. i definately did not get the firing mode that i was supposed to get. I called them up. the tech i talked to had no idea what i was talking about, so he promoised me that he will call back. next day he called and said it needed to be programmed and they don't have software at that moment so he would call me back when they get it. I was waiting for over 2 weeks and called him today. this is what he said " IT DOES COME WITH ONLY ONE MODE. IT DOES NOT HAVE OTHER FORCE MODE. CALL KEN CRANE AND HE WILL EXPLAIN." but.. i coudn't reach him. and i don't want explanation why I am not getting what i paid for.

I was ready to send the board out to get it programed which shouldn't have happened in the first place, now I have to be happy with i got? this is like you paid for M3 for more power and getting 325i. whatever it is i am very mad and afraid that i might have made very bad choice. am i over-reacting? i don't know what to do now, please anyone give me an advise.

ok heres the poop, the boards were shipped to us without anyone knowing that the euro modes were not activated.
this wasnt done intentionaly but we must now live with the fact it has happened. wdp is working on providing us the new data link cables that we need to program the force speeds as well as the o5 speeds . these data links are made by the company that makes the boards for wdp and are in the works. also frazer has indicated that the current run of euro boards for repair all have the extended modes completely missing. so right now all we can do is wait until the software company finishes up on this issue. i understand that the gun is missing the 2 enhanced modes but the overall value you recieved should well overcome the fact that their will be a delay in getting the modes. how long will the delay be? i would estimate aprox 4 weeks at the rate things are happening. if it is sooner i am sure jim or mark will call you sooner.

KEN CRANE
11-02-2004, 08:31 AM
sorry i didnt want to think i was bashing you.i am not sure why jim didnt explain this to you as i was very clear about what happened.maybe he just misunderstood our conversation.just sit tight we will never leave you out to roost.

btw i edited the post to clean up the mess i started sorry.

FTHEREF187
12-05-2004, 10:56 PM
im getting a force fly speed, so it only has semi mode??? am i hearing this right??? and if so can we send the guns to you when you get the new cabel and can it be updated???

kangaroodent
12-12-2004, 02:56 PM
It only has semi, yeah. I have no problems with it, meh.