Paintball 2 Xtremes television on SPIKE TV

[JoeyM@PB2X]

Paintball 2Xtremes Television Premieres This Saturday on Spike
For Immediate Release

The world’s best paintball magazine is about to crank it up a notch with its very own weekly TV show. The premiere episode of Paintball 2Xtremes Television is locked, loaded, and ready to go this Saturday morning on Spike TV and you won’t want to miss it.

Episode One features great final round action from the Draxxus International Amateur Open, as well as coverage of the Blues Brother Ride Again scenario game held at the same event. Other great segments in this first episode include Infamous captain Chris LaSoya showing you how to walk tournament airball fields, tech guru Chris Spena teaching the basics of blowback markers, the making of the print version of Paintball 2Xtremes, and much more.

If you love Paintball 2Xtremes “the magazine,” you’ll love the television show’s magazine format.

Catch Paintball 2Xtremes Television Saturday mornings at 9am (Eastern and Pacific time) beginning October 2nd and running each Saturday morning through December 25th, 2004 on Spike TV.

For more information, show schedule, and channels please visit: www.pb2x.com

this show is gonna rock, u can see a preview at www.pb2x.com on the opening page, enjoy!

[tgaffner]

Cool. Paintball is finally getting on TV.

[PakmanRevd]

DAMNIT! I have a tourny that day and hafta be at the field at 730..

guess i'll hafta watch the show after

[Presto333]

this is bull§§§§, i cant believe they push it to 6 in the morning in my time. they should have it on at regular times instead of that other crap like wrestling.

Edit: I guess ima hafta wake up at 6!!!! on a weekend!!

[IwanaANGEL]

aha me too!

[MoogLe]

yea, why the hell did they have to schedule this so damn early, 9 am on a saturday, bah

[PakmanRevd]

Saturday mornings at 9am (Eastern and Pacific time)
Saturday mornings at 9am (Eastern and Pacific time)
Saturday mornings at 9am (Eastern and Pacific time)
Saturday mornings at 9am (Eastern and Pacific time)

READ !!! :) 9 AM EASTERN AND PACIFIC

[pgaglio]

That's why they make Tivo and VCRs.

[Who?]

Yeah that is kind of stupid. Why have the show in the am? Why not int he afternoon or at night at like 8 pm. 9 am most ballers are heading to the fields.

Prolly a marketing thing, they are wanting new people to watch it. Dunno. 9 am :( Looks liek I wont get to watch it.

[drkanglr]

Wow. Finally get something w/ a regular spot every week and people are STILL bitchin'!!
It's brand new, folks! New shows w/ new ideas don't get prime slots, that's how it works. Plus, younger folks that aren't already ballin' are more likely going to see it then, anyway. Most folks already have their afternoon weekday schedules pretty set, Sat mornings are different. At least it's finally going to be on. And like the brother said, that's what tivo and VCR's are for.

[Presto333]

actually its not 9am eastern and pacific, i just scrolled forward on my DirectTV and it says 6AM, i would record it but sumtin about r VCR that when we record stuff, it just looks like crap when u watch it. So, ill be waking up at 6am because of my love of paintball. This show better not be crap, half of me thinks that since its Spike TV they r gunna try to focus on paintball as a war game. Guess ill just have to wait and see.

[ckyxx87xx]

someone should tape it and sell it to lazy §§§§s like me...lol j/k im watching it...

[DarkHope]

<3 my DVR digital cable box =)

[Hep]

Not worth the hastle of recording. I didn't know NPS owned PB2X or at least they paid for most of the commericial time and was plugged like crazy. Anyone who recorded it time it and see how long the show was actually on for. I missed the first 10 minutes but from what I saw after that Id say the show was maybe 15 minutes long, lol. I give it 2 thumbs down a third if I had another hands but I guess it does give more exposure for paintball.

[pb8907]

it had a nice layout but def. could use improvement

[MoogLe]

Not worth the hastle of recording. I didn't know NPS owned PB2X or at least they paid for most of the commericial time and was plugged like crazy. Anyone who recorded it time it and see how long the show was actually on for. I missed the first 10 minutes but from what I saw after that Id say the show was maybe 15 minutes long, lol. I give it 2 thumbs down a third if I had another hands but I guess it does give more exposure for paintball.
i agree, there a little too much promotion going on, even half of the show itself was about the magazine

i hope next week's show actually shows more paintballing.

also when they talked about the co2 tank they made it sound like they're talking about a lethal bomb at some points

[Furby]

Moogle, if a tank has a catastrophic failure it IS a bomb....

Didn't like the male host much...nobody should be that enthusiastic all the time. I did like the female host, though...amazing voice.

[mamba_juice]

yeah, i agree it was WAYYYYYYY to national oriented...but hey, at least i was on national TV

[Who?]

I was sleeping. I guess i didnt miss much.

[fife]

Hopefully this will be the start of more things to come. Ya, too bad National sponsored it but you have got to give them credit for helping to promote our sport (as well as their products :yawn: )

[dynastySSS]

hmmm i need to watch it...i recorded it but havent seen it yet lol

[Raoul]

I would'a liked to have seen LaSoya talk for more than 15 seconds on how to read fields....

[paintballbum]

i wish there was more than 1 tourney game seen, and mayb little less commercials(tons of em) but hey its start, u always gotta start somewhere

Didn't like the male host much...nobody should be that enthusiastic all the time.
he did a better job on the PB2X tv that was on OLN 1 year ago

[drkanglr]

Well the NPS wasn't a surprise, they DO own PB2X magazine, so there you go. Obviously they're trying to break people in and show little bits at a time, but I hoped to see more show and less advertising. It's still nice to have pb on tv w/out accusations of unlawfulness or abuse. I hope that it helps some "laymen" learn what the sport is, that it IS a sport, and why we play it. Even if all it ever does is help get some uneducated folks off our backs, that's fine w/ me.

[Paintballjc]

I missed it.... i didnt feel like waking up at 6 to watch it. Maybe next week :boink:

[bobjim]

yeah, i agree it was WAYYYYYYY to national oriented...but hey, at least i was on national TV

What!? you was on TV? luck sob! lol
I missed it but I hope there is a re-run on later tonight.

[paintballbum]

I missed it.... i didnt feel like waking up at 6 to watch it. Maybe next week :boink:
it was on at 9am in cal, well it was for me

[Paintballjc]

it was on at 9am in cal, well it was for me

I checked at 9 and i didnt see it on :scratchhe

[MoogLe]

Moogle, if a tank has a catastrophic failure it IS a bomb....

Didn't like the male host much...nobody should be that enthusiastic all the time. I did like the female host, though...amazing voice.
yes i know, but they made it sound like it was something that happened all the time, like just another day at the field and some newbie pops on a bad burst disc and boom

[JoeyM@PB2X]

I would like to say thank you for all of ur constructive commments. Its only through the people who actually play paintball, like yourselves, do we get a feel for how we are doing at PB2X. The show is just in its beginning phases, give it a shot, its definitly unique and brings light to all aspects of paintball. Remember the word "paintball" encompasses alot of different things. Us tourney players would like to see more of the paintball that looks like it should be on tv, primarily tourney paintball. I thought that the host was funny, but i can see how he can get annoying. Anyways, there is a big contest where you can win an empire intimidator at the end of the 13 week period. PB2X is giving away a free case of paint every week too. Its a trivia contest. Check it out at www.pb2x.com for more info.

Keep giving pb2x tv a shot, but if its not ur thing, just remember its helper our sport grow. Sorry about messing up on the times, thats what we were informed they were.

Later

[mamba_juice]

ahhh...trivia contest?

i was expecting technical theory and mechanical workings of markers...not what color hat lasoya was wearing!

[Raoul]

I would like to say thank you for all of ur constructive commments. Its only through the people who actually play paintball, like yourselves, do we get a feel for how we are doing at PB2X.....

Whoa! Thank *you* for coming to our humble little corner of the paintball internet and listening to us!

[black flag]

My big complaint (other than it was one long commercial for NPS) was there were too many "segments" and not enough time dedicated to each. I agree with someone else in this thread that the walking the field with Lasoya is something everyone can learn from. Lasoya spoke two sentences and then - it was over. If they want to cram that much stuff into the show they'll have to extend it to one hour or shorten the commercial time.

I don't think this show is for the hardcore players - it's to bring the typical dudes watching Spike to the field so they can buy NPS gear .

I wouldn't get your hopes up guys. Lets hope that someone else gets tournament footage up on OLN, Fox or ESPN 8 of the NPPL or PSP tourneys. That would be pretty exciting to watch - especially for the folks who don't have the opportunity to travel to one of these events.

[thog94]

Gino just purchased 30 min commercials for NPS. Some exposure is better than none, at least the sport will be introduced to more people. I think it was mentioned before, but someone needs to see how much air time NPS gets, I Tivo'd it but was disappointed and deleted it.

[paintballbum]

someone needs to see how much air time NPS gets
should i include when a segment was talking about empire pants? and other stuff like that

[thog94]

Well, NPS owns Empire, so any product shown is is going to be a NPS plug one way or another. Might as well toss in the products also.

[pgaglio]

I would like to say thank you for all of ur constructive commments. Its only through the people who actually play paintball, like yourselves, do we get a feel for how we are doing at PB2X. The show is just in its beginning phases, give it a shot, its definitly unique and brings light to all aspects of paintball. Remember the word "paintball" encompasses alot of different things. Us tourney players would like to see more of the paintball that looks like it should be on tv, primarily tourney paintball. I thought that the host was funny, but i can see how he can get annoying. Anyways, there is a big contest where you can win an empire intimidator at the end of the 13 week period. PB2X is giving away a free case of paint every week too. Its a trivia contest. Check it out at www.pb2x.com for more info.

Keep giving pb2x tv a shot, but if its not ur thing, just remember its helper our sport grow. Sorry about messing up on the times, thats what we were informed they were.

Later

Thanks for actually puting a PB show on TV. Here are a few of my own comments, offered in a constructive way:

The host was a bit too happy. Enough said on that.

The segment on how you put the PB2X magazine together probably wasn't of much interest to most ballers. That story really seemed out of place with the rest of the show. I realize you're trying to promote your mag, but there are ways I think you could have worked that into every one of the stories you did. You could have talked briefly about your extensive coverage of tourney and scenario play (during the IAO segments), plus your articles on tech questions in every issue (during the blowback marker and CO2 stories), etc...

Direct the show more towards hard core ballers and you will get the newbs to come along for the ride. Given that there are a lot of new players out there, maybe you could do a beginners segment that answers some basic questions (what's the diff between CO2 and CA, how is a closed bolt marker different from an open bolt, etc....)

The footage on the IAO tourney was too short. It would have been great if you showed more than one game.

The last segment on CO2 safety and burst disks was OK. However, the bigger danger with a CO2 tank is the possibility of the valve unscrewing from the tank and the tank becoming a projectile. Unfortunately, this type of accident has resulted in people being killed, but it wasn't mentioned in your story.

All things considered, I'm glad you guys are making the effort. Keep improving the show and I predict it will be successful for you and for the sport.

[Hep]

The last segment on CO2 safety and burst disks was OK. However, the bigger danger with a CO2 tank is the possibility of the valve unscrewing from the tank and the tank becoming a projectile. Unfortunately, this type of accident has resulted in people being killed, but it wasn't mentioned in your story.



I can agree on your point and theirs airing this info but another note I don't think it should have been in the first episode. As some of the viewers were probably getting their first glimpse of our sport and to show them how dangerous something you carry on you can become fatal. I can understand informing the viewer of protective gear but IMO I think the tank info would have been better aired at a later date as to not "Scare" anyone thinking about getting into the sport.

[pgaglio]

I can agree on your point and theirs airing this info but another note I don't think it should have been in the first episode. As some of the viewers were probably getting their first glimpse of our sport and to show them how dangerous something you carry on you can become fatal. I can understand informing the viewer of protective gear but IMO I think the tank info would have been better aired at a later date as to not "Scare" anyone thinking about getting into the sport.

That makes sense. Maybe it would have been better to do a story on masks and the obvious importance of using a quality one, in the first show.

[Hathegkla]

does anybody know where I might be able to download a recording of the show? it's on waaaaaay too early for me to ever watch and they don't re-run the show durring the week. I'd really like to check it out.

[DarkHope]

It got erassed on my DVR box b4 i could watch it...bah!

[Presto333]

i taped it and watched it yesterday and have to say i was extremely dissapointed. The only segment i liked was when Chris Lasoya was showing how to read the field. Everything else was just a big advertisement for timmys and empire. I think the part about the Burst Disk was a complete waste, if ur gunna show safety on Co2 tanks, they should cover the part about the valve unscrewing from the tank because that is the biggest problem. I think it would be better for the hosts to be actual paintball players instead of one over excited guy and one rly ugly lady. The show started getting rly boring after about 15 minutes of non-stop empire advertising and repetative comercials. I guess it's just the begining of paintball on tv, but i wish they would have aimed a little higher on the quality of thier first show. Hopefully the show gets better as it goes on. With all that said, it's about time paintball is on tv.

[DarkHope]

ROFl Dale, I love your comments on the radio bout the show A+

[MoogLe]

I can agree on your point and theirs airing this info but another note I don't think it should have been in the first episode. As some of the viewers were probably getting their first glimpse of our sport and to show them how dangerous something you carry on you can become fatal. I can understand informing the viewer of protective gear but IMO I think the tank info would have been better aired at a later date as to not "Scare" anyone thinking about getting into the sport.
that's kinda where i was going at with my comment about them making it sound like a bomb

[JoeyM@PB2X]

Thank you once again for your comments. Since the scope of a tv show is so broad, obviously we are getting tons of responses in all directions. Some love it, others hate it. No one individual, or company can satisfy all human needs because we are all subjective human beings, our values change from time to time. We are using this show as a vehicle to grow the sport, and the only way a sport grows is by presenting the most simple information on a sport, and exposing it to newbies, yes newbies. I have played some tournaments before and I would agree that I would like to see it more oriented to tournament players, but in pure marketing, it would be wisest to attempt to reach the largest potential audience, newbies. The show isn't designed for tournament players, we try to cover as much of paintball as we can, and that word paintball encompasses a lot. Recreational players easily out number tournament players and make up the majority of the sport. We are attempting to cover all facets of paintball that we can given our time frame. PB2X did approach major paintball companies to ask if they wanted to place an ad, some did, some did not. Yes I will agree, NPS, had the majority of ads, but it only makes sense because ads are sold, not given to paintball companies, we aren't in the charity business. If a company wishes to place an add, all they need to do is call Debbie Postorvio. Visit www.pb2x.com and meet the staff section, find Debbie.

The Tv host has a tv personality, you either love him, including all his energy, or hate him. Yes no one is ever that happy all the time, but remeber its tv, the tv producers and film crews take multiple takes of a segment before getting it right.

We need to get the information on saftey out there, that was the purpose of the co2 example. Its a tragedy that people have died because of this. We will work harder in the future on better information.

The short segment on showing how PB2X is published was simply of factoid information.

As we all know paintball games can take long to complete, and that there is a plethora of information found in paintball. It is truely a challenge to attempt to sift through all the information and find the most pertinent information according to our guidelines for the show, and display it in a professional manner. I would love to see the show on a better time slot, and be longer. However, this can only happen if we let spiketv know what we think of it. Please visit this link to let spiketv know, if you wish to do so. http://www.spiketv.com/interact/feedback/feedback.jhtml

Please do not hesitate to let us know how we are doing, you can email any of our writers, and we will do our best to return an email. You can email me at marshalljoey@hotmail.com Thanks again, I hope people turn in tomm to watch episode 2( hmm starwars, no, definitly not! jk! ) :)

[Hep]

Well I will once again get up earlier than normal for work and watch it again. Heck its paintball on TV gotta watch it.

[Presto333]

Well I will once again get up earlier than normal for work and watch it again. Heck its paintball on TV gotta watch it.

So true, as much as the show let down my high hopes (probably too high), even i shall get up at 6am on saturday. I guess this is wut i get for being addicted to paintball?

[MoogLe]

watching it right now,

so far, it's looking much better than the first show, just saw the part on russian legion, that was quite interesting, those guys have some awesome talent

[Furby]

watching it right now too. Someone calmed the male host down...I and the girl is relaxed a bit more...better and better!

[Hep]

This second installment was better than the premiere I'd have to say. Now if/when WDP buys a 30 second spot for a commercial that be :boobies:

[PakmanRevd]

So true, as much as the show let down my high hopes (probably too high), even i shall get up at 6am on saturday. I guess this is wut i get for being addicted to paintball?

IT'S ON AT 9AM PACIFIC AND EASTERN TIME!!!!!!! pay attention :)

[Sparco]

I'm curious, what sort of demographics is PB2X monitoring for the show? Have you been able to determine what percentage of the viewers are paintball players or out of sport spectators? Secondly, which time zone is drawing the biggest respond? I'd be really curious to learn about numbers...

At 9am (est) & 6am (pst) on a Saturday I highly doubt you're going to get a large audience outside of the sport. I don't know many people that fly out of bed to watch Spike TV at those hours on a Saturday morning unless they want to watch it. But I do realize that securing a primetime slot isn't going to happen overnight on a major network like Spike TV.

But to be perfectly honest, I think it'll be impossible to truly gauge the magnitude (or effectiveness for that matter) of a paintball show on TV unless you have it on at a time and day in which charlie channel surfer will see it.

[Hep]

Your reply Sparco is well taken Im sure. But you also gotta think airtime on a primetime slot is way more than at that time in the day. From what Ive known and done in advertising is you make the best deal you can get and the more towards a primetime slot the more $$$$ it cost so dont expect to see this at say 7:00 pm on a weekday or weekend for that matter. It is all about dollars and how much you can afford or are willing to spend and if Im wrong PB2X please correct me. TV time is not as negotiable as radio air time by no means. Ive done both with the company I work with in regards to commercial air play. And some here have no idea on what the price jump can be so even to have paintball on the idiot box is always a plus like I said before. Keep it up PB2X as I had my discretions before but it is a step in the right direction. And also to touch on whats been said before.. all us tourney players are only a dot on the major market of paintball and that is what companies look for is expansion on new customers/newbs not us tourney players. So you all got to look at it from that point if you can understand marketing and a other thing call profit.
Thanks for reading,
Hep

[DarkHope]

Just got done watching it from my nifty cable box...Its not to obvious or anything that theyre trying to cram there products down your throat...It takes overbearing advertising to a whole new level IMO...Im sure thats the only way they can keep the show afloat, but enough is enough. If i see one more empire symbol im gunna shoot somebody

[tgaffner]

Did y0u cee t3h 2k5 las0ya!!!

[Hathegkla]

I just saw the 2nd epsode yesterday morning and I actually kinda liked it. sure some of it was geared tword little kids but on saturday morning what other choice do you have? The only thing I would look for in a show like that is tourey coverage and good shots of people playing ball and there was enough of that in the 2nd epsode to keep me happy. I'd have to say the next time I'm awake at 9am on a saturday morning I'll definitely watch the show.

[angelobsessor]

The second episode was good, but the segments were way to short. Lasoya's section lasted all of about a minute. They could have at least had it as long as Rocky Cagnoni's "Down On the Grass" section that's on NPPL's 2004 Tampa Video. I did like the section about the goggles. The male host had to many speaking lines and parts. (He had to introduce all of the segments, he spent time talking about how he used to skateboard, and popped an ollie on a DXS board, etc.) This time could have been used to add on to the other sections. It was worth thirty minutes of my time, but there is TONS of room for improvement.

[pgaglio]

I watched episode 2 and thought it was much improved from the first one. The host isn't jumping out of his shoes in every segment and the tourney coverage was good. The piece on gogs was helpful too. As far as the number of ads goes....hey, welcome to TV.

All in all I think it was well worth watching. Keep up the good work. :biggthump

[guest123]

i just wish they showd more matches instead of all the bs and other segments... :repost: :stooges:

[mrgr8ness]

Second sepisode was def better than the first. I think the show is pretty good. I mean, its hard to make a show that appeals to hardcore baller, newbs, and also appeal to people who have never played and know nothing of paintball. Then on top of that, cram it into a 30min spot. All in all I think its a pretty good show, and serving a great purpose......getting paintball in the mainstream. :cheers:

[guest123]

tru tru

[angelobsessor]

I finished watching episode three a few hours ago. This episode did not seem as rushed. The Cartel vs. Justice game had good comentary and multiple camera angles. The Tyler Harmon interview was well done, as well as the Co2 tank and paintball gun safeties parts. The second game (Fusion vs. Justice) was WAY to short. You could have taken out the "Lets ask random people about Pennslyvania's history" section. I thought it was a waste of time that could have been used to lengthen the Fusion/Justice game. The Infamous player driving the hummer was kind of a waste, could have shortened it. The host needs to stop being so goofy. (When the kid was trying to take the gun from him before the barrel sock and gun safety part) Also, he introduces the sections to much. ("Lets go over to the safety zone... Hi we are at today's safety zone to talk about...") Overall a much better show than the first two.

[MoogLe]

ah damn i forgot to watch it today,
oh well

[DarkHope]

Agreed, they get better every week...but still has a long way to go, people watch a paintball show to see paintball, not to learn about safety, hummers and dorky ass pennsylvania history.

[ckyxx87xx]

Yea i agree that they could deff. cut some stuff out, the thing that annoyed me most waas the time spent in commercials, instead of the usuall 1 minute break it was around 4 minutes for each commercial break, this takes a lot of time away from the show itself..

[DarkHope]

well, I tivo it with my cable box, so I just fast forward thru the commercials =)

[Hep]

I'll give the third installment one thumb up. Can or should only get better from here.

[angelobsessor]

Episode 4: The best one yet! The Dynasty/Legion games had really good coverage. Infamous section was good, but once again the Lasoya section was too short. The host did better, but less of him, more of Lasoya would have been better. The mph speed of a paintball sectionn was kind of dumb, reminded me of episode 3's Pennsylvania questions. The paintball sizing section was good. The Legion coverage made this episode. Overall a really good one. :smile:

[gutshot]

Did anyone tape any of the shows they might like to share?

[MoogLe]

DOH!

I forgot to watch it again!

[alohn2000]

I just cant seem to drag myself up early enough to catch it. May have to learn how to set the VCR to tape something for once.

[garrick]

the last episode was the best so far. the only problem i have with the show is that it is like a 30min commercial for National Paintball. All the products are theirs. it is still good to see a show on cable/sat unlike that last one, what ever it was called which was one only a few cable systems. the dynasty/russian legion match was cool. maybe more of that and 1 hour show would be best.

g

[angelobsessor]

The part 2 of the scenerio coverage was crap. The whole episode was the announcer, which by the way was ridiculously retarded. I hope the next episode is better or I'm going to stop watching it.

[Raoul]

Actually, this last episode (11/13) was the best one yet, IMHO...

[Raoul]

On todays episode I heard: "Bob Long's Intimidator is the Mercedes of Paintbal markers"

I about choked on my coffee when they said that, but then my daughter piped in with "So Angels are the Ferraris then?" and saved the day!

heh

[Furby]

Your daughter is a wise young lady.

[C.Carles-AOG]

Ever since M-B merged with Chrysler...sure, they can make that analogy.

[OriginalFormula-Duns]

What a show. I really think the host needs to shut up some more though, as does everyone who watches it I think. The Bob Long talking about break outs section was cool today. BUT LETS GET SOME ANGELS IN THE SHOW!!!!!!! all ive seen is timmys, DM4s, and the odd Shocker. Oh ya, and about a million spyder clones.