new force speed !!!

[KEN CRANE]

lets not clog this one up with garbage please?

WOW! Master Tech Speed Force!

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Angel Force is pleased to announce yet another exclusive! The Speed Force!

The Speed Force features the same sleek, aggressive milling as the infamous
Force FLY. Weighing in at a mere 2.75 (including the barrel and regulator)
the only thing heavy on this marker is the impressive list of features.

Exclusive Speed Force Eye Board:
This is an enhanced version of the board used in the coveted Euro Speed.
Featuring previously unavailable Speed modes like Full Auto, 3-Shot Burst,
Double-Action (fires on pull and release of trigger), and Demo Mode to
provide unmatched rates of fire. In addition to the extra modes, the Speed
Force Eye Board provides users with the most powerful beam break eyes on the
market, and adjustable debounce. Every user from recreational to
professional will love the simple to use LED board, you simply turn it on
and it is in live mode ready to shoot. Previously available in Europe only,
Angel Force is the first and only company to offer this great technology in
a custom marker!

Other great features include:
Twin Low Pressure Volumizers
Angel Force Custom Backplate
Twist Lock Low Rise
WDP Soft Face Bolt
Master Tech Set-Up and Support

The Speed Force is available in polished black anodizing with silver
accents. Only 30 of these markers are available worldwide and at an
unbelievable price of $1200.00 they won’t last long. Interested parties
should contact Angel Force immediately to order/preorder a Speed Force as
they will land in dealers hands by September 7, 2004.

More information can be found at www.angelforce.tv
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[KEN CRANE]

lets not clog this one up with garbage please?

WOW! Master Tech Speed Force!

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Angel Force is pleased to announce yet another exclusive! The Speed Force!

The Speed Force features the same sleek, aggressive milling as the infamous
Force FLY. Weighing in at a mere 2.75 (including the barrel and regulator)
the only thing heavy on this marker is the impressive list of features.

Exclusive Speed Force Eye Board:
This is an enhanced version of the board used in the coveted Euro Speed.
Featuring previously unavailable Speed modes like Full Auto, 3-Shot Burst,
Double-Action (fires on pull and release of trigger), and Demo Mode to
provide unmatched rates of fire. In addition to the extra modes, the Speed
Force Eye Board provides users with the most powerful beam break eyes on the
market, and adjustable debounce. Every user from recreational to
professional will love the simple to use LED board, you simply turn it on
and it is in live mode ready to shoot. Previously available in Europe only,
Angel Force is the first and only company to offer this great technology in
a custom marker!

Other great features include:
Twin Low Pressure Volumizers
Angel Force Custom Backplate
Twist Lock Low Rise
WDP Soft Face Bolt
Master Tech Set-Up and Support

The Speed Force is available in polished black anodizing with silver
accents. Only 30 of these markers are available worldwide and at an
unbelievable price of $1200.00 they won’t last long. Interested parties
should contact Angel Force immediately to order/preorder a Speed Force as
they will land in dealers hands by September 7, 2004.

More information can be found at www.angelforce.tv
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[Furby]

When do I get to review one?

:smile:

[dynastySSS]

sexy....there emmit no more bad L.A.

[RaistlinsLegacy]

NOOO i just got my fly you had to do this now?! the LCD is too much :p

[Angel Nate]

Great Work Ken!
-Nate

[KEN CRANE]

Great Work Ken!
-Nate

what did i do ? we have a team

[Hep]

When do I get to review one?

:smile:

Doubt you will Dale if only 30 are made Im sure they will be all sold within a week, they will be like Gang Bustas!

[Furby]

It makes for a nice fantasy...

[Sparco]

Tell ya what Dale, I'll come out of retirement and do one of my infamous reviews for your website.

[Furby]

I admire your dedication.

[68Caliber.Com]

By the time the review got out, they'd all be sold... :smiley:

[Sparco]

By the time the review got out, they'd all be sold... :smiley:

Apparently you don't know me very well. Most reviews on a marker traditionally are followed up by the marker being sold that is reviewed.

That being said, I'm sure if the MTs see the demand for these at such a level where they can sell more then I'm sure they will. Maybe in a month we'll see orange/black Force Fly LEDs.

The term "Limited Edition" is often negated when demand rises. Plus the deal is just too good for most people to pass up, especially those of us that do not desire the warranty... not that we don't want it, just don't need it.

[Furby]

He doesn't, and his point about a Force Speed review stands. However, your point about a review possibly stimulating demand also has quite a bit of merit as well.

In either event, my comment about me reviewing a Force Speed was in jest.

And in my case, I do not sell items I'm given for review. The only exception was the OGI O3, since the company and people who gave me the marker for review no longer existed.

[booboo808]

ughh, I'll review one for ya Ken!

:drools:

[KEN CRANE]

ughh, I'll review one for ya Ken!

:drools:

heres the only review we need:the force speed is the same gun as the force 4 without the extra options some dont want.the force 4 is still by far the best angel or paintball gun on the market.the force speed is a limited edition gun and will not last at the price of 1200.00.dont wait till its too late...
:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[booboo808]

hhehe, oh well, I tried.

;)

[Furby]

heres the only review we need:the force speed is the same gun as the force 4 without the extra options some dont want.the force 4 is still by far the best angel or paintball gun on the market.the force speed is a limited edition gun and will not last at the price of 1200.00.dont wait till its too late...
:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:


Quoted for truth.

[gomergomes]

any chance that board might be a option for RETRO?

[Paintballjc]

any chance that board might be a option for RETRO?

that is a retro option. you can get a retro with euro speed board which I should be getting soon

[ckyxx87xx]

that is a retro option. you can get a retro with euro speed board which I should be getting soon

yea when you get the retro you have a choice of an LED (Euro Speed board) or an LCD (Fly Board).. LED is $320 LCD is $420

[Vinny3299]

question on the force speed? is the board uncapped etc.. is it pretty much have the upgrades internally and the trigger as if you sent your fly in to get the MT upgrades... whats the psi running on them too..

[Sparco]

question on the force speed? is the board uncapped etc.. is it pretty much have the upgrades internally and the trigger as if you sent your fly in to get the MT upgrades... whats the psi running on them too..

I'd imagine the board operates under the same limits, 25 eyes off and 31 with eyes on. This model does not come with the trigger, aftermarket valve or aftermarket buttons. Nor does it come with the warranty, the marker is just setup properly. However I'm sure the MTs would take care of you should you encounter a future problem.

As for the PSI, the marker is identical to the Force Fly... sans the electronic display.

[gomergomes]

no,see I ment the option of the un-capped euro board when doing the retro..???

[ckyxx87xx]

I'd imagine the board operates under the same limits, 25 eyes off and 31 with eyes on. This model does not come with the trigger, aftermarket valve or aftermarket buttons. Nor does it come with the warranty, the marker is just setup properly. However I'm sure the MTs would take care of you should you encounter a future problem.

As for the PSI, the marker is identical to the Force Fly... sans the electronic display.

it really doesnt matter if its uncapped...cuz there is no way you can get 31 bps

[Vinny3299]

my question is if you had a choice either this marker or a standard Fly what would be the better buy?? and is there any other colors available

[ckyxx87xx]

it depends...if you like an LED then get this and if you like an LCD get the fly...thats really the only difference between the two

[Vinny3299]

so like speed on shoots and performance they are the same, what about like the tr settings etc... dwell is that all able to be setup on the speed??? the force speed that is any other colors perhaps too

[Sparco]

Cky... correct, 31bps could be taken for granted as uncapped but in a literal sense the board is still "capped" even if the number can't be achieved by normal means. Because I honestly believe that the marker could cycle even faster than 31bps under mechanical assistance if the electronics allowed it.

As far as this marker being a better buy, the price alone is a good answer. You're paying $200 (less than a Fly) and $400 (less than a Force Fly) for a fantastic marker. Externally you're getting the Force milling/backplate, sans trigger and buttons (which can be purchased for a very reasonable additional fee). You're not getting the valve but to some that performance accessory is neglible, nor are you getting the warranty but many consumers don't use the warranty to its full advantage anyway.

So really you're losing out on some firing modes, a gamer timer and some of the digital display features. For $200-$400 less than its 'counter-parts' it's an amazing idea and a great purchase for the Angel owner.

[Technix2002]

I'm just curious if the regular Speed can be retrofitted with the Speed Force Eyes and Board. It would be nice to have the extra modes of fire that the Force version has to play around with.

[robdamanii]

Ken, you guys (mastertechs) have really done well on this. Looks really nice, and I'd LOVE to see how it shoots.

Any internal changes or dimensional changes?
I.E. is it the same small body as the force 4? Same internally?

[Sparco]

A customer has left his with us for the weekend, a full and (very thorough) review will be available by the end of next week.

So far... awesome!

[gomergomes]

tecnic,see I already asked that ? and nobody knew the answer...

[KEN CRANE]

A customer has left his with us for the weekend, a full and (very thorough) review will be available by the end of next week.

So far... awesome!

btw i should have the pdf tonight

[Paladin]

Besides Trigger, milling, grip, whats dif from 05 Speed and this, any true performance changes?

My Q is whats the better buy sence the MT one doesn't come with warrenty for another 200 less you can pick up the 05...

[kangaroodent]

It's LIMITED EDITION DAMMIT YARGH
That's about it. And I like the looks better, I don't like the new 05 Speeds' looks much :(

[TrashDoG]

euro speed? force speed? 05 speed? old speed? AHHHH They really should have called it the "Angel Accurate", or the "Angel Drop-Dead Gourgeus" too many "Angel Speed's" if you ask me. :D

But who's complaining, $999 for the 05? I'm sold.

[PBsmurf]

^^^^^
Same....
but the force speeds look and sound like they kick ass.

[baruchpbclub]

ken said that the a4 force and force fly aree the best but wouldnt the force speed be faster considering they come with reverse polarity triggers?