The vid to end all vids... =)

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

here ya go everyone, its quite a download.
heres a little bit of background info...
all these guns were serviced at impact paintball, with the flied force done by them as well, the first clip will be an ir3 with stock egg, the second will be an a4 with stock egg, it would have been better but the guy had a faulty sensor, then at last is my gun, a flied master tech force 4 with reloader b on fastest setting... well.. ill let u judge for urself... then after wards we had extra air and paint so we did it all over again...at a brick...hehe... enjoy!

p.s. after the a4 guy saw my gun he brought it straight to impact and he now is a new flied a4 owner =)

http://furby.pbcproductions.com/ComparisonVid.mpg

[dynastySSS]

thats awsome jetwing!!!bounce much lol

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

bounce?? i haveno idea wat u may be talking about... (avoids eye contact) =P

[dynastySSS]

lol

[bos_2005]

Yes it is really pathetic how WDP can claims how their guns is fast without bounce, yet everytime i see a vid they have more bounce than other vids i have seen. But other than that its a nice vid other than that.

[dark2k2LCD]

the guy with the a4 has some slow fingers

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

bounce or no bounce this vid shows the capabilities of the fly, and that itll fire as fast as u can pull, if u wanna flame please go to pbnation or something, tryin to start something on these forums wont work

[bos_2005]

I am not really trying to flame. I am just pointing out that if anybody else posted a vid that had that much bounce everybody would call it a cheater gun or something along those lines. So i am just pointing out that everybody over on AOG is bias and hypocritical. I personally thought it was a good vid even though they claim it to be the fastest gun without bounce even though i have yet to see a vid of the eye'q that doesnt have bounce.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

lets look realistically... if high end guns are far passed human potential, then how is one gun faster then the other... usually when people say my gun is faster then urs wat they REALLY mean is my gun bounces/ramps faster then urs. if it werent due to bounce... all those timmies and trixes wouldnt be nearly as popular...notice how many "cheater boards" are made for those guns in order to keep them popular. the angel is the most reliable, low maintenance, most quality as well as incredible speed... if zero bounce, the angel is still easier to shoot fast then most guns out there

[dynastySSS]

hehe :owned:

[bos_2005]

How do you call that owned?

He hardly got to my point so he pretty much just avoided it.

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

and wat is ur point exactly? that wdp are hypocrites? so based on a customer wanting to show the capabilities of his gun... wdp is now officially hypocrites on the issue of bounce? doesnt seem logical if u ask me. the point is...that when it comes down to it...and the gun was set to zero bounce...it is still easier to shoot faster... if i still didnt touch on ur point please lemme know and enlighten us...

[bos_2005]

I never stated that WDP are hypocrites but the ppl on aog are. If i posted a vid of my gun bouncing like that everybody would start with the HK flamming and such. Or even somebody with a pred or was mod.

Also it really wasnt much of a comparison vid becuase you didnt have the other ace/board combo's such as HK,pred,demon,was/ace. You compaird them to stock guns which really isnt fair to compair stock to a gun with a 300 upgrade like the conversion. So get a differant set of guns to compair and then it might be fair.

Thats like compairing this ir3 to the ir3 in your vid it just isnt fair.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/3fb83bb6_117f5/bc/Vids/100_0695_0001.mov?BCJm7FBB.CyPRZZ1

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

well it wasnt suppose to be a comparison vid, my friend juss named it that, hell if u wanna see a 100% legit vid ill make one, but i never said that the video is how fast u can shoot without bounce...

[IR3-ANGEL]

Umm while u guys are fighting let me sneek in a comment. Nice Vid good job :smiley:

[Paintballjc]

Ok, Bos look at an Angel Speed. Those things dont bounce at all. I can still shoot hella fast with it. This guy i know hit 27 BPS on my gun. Im not that fast, but ive hit 24 and all of this is with paint over a red chrono. Tell me what is faster now..... Can i hear..... ANGEL w/o some gay mod.

[Jim@ImpactPaintball]

im lost...the guns fast....the GUN is VERY fast...ok? fingers really arent a big factor anymore regarding any new high end gun. everyone has dbounce, its all about whos a better cheater now.

[winter001]

Bos, why does every thread you join have to end up like this? Instead of just being a nice thread about a video, it becomes an argument. Yes, people in AOG are biased, thats the point of this site- WE ALL REALLY LOVE WDP STUFF!!! Why else would we be here? I know you are 17 and still at that age where everything is hypocritical, and the man is out to get you, but get over yourself, this is a paintball forum not everything needs to be an argument.

Anyways, nice vid Jetwing, the flied kits never cease to impress! I really need to find 300 bucks and get mine done!

-Chris

[RgMekanic]

Very true Winter. And yes, the guy with the A4 shoots slower than Furby or I can run.

Very sad.

[Paintballjc]

I thought there was someone on Angel-owners that is also supposed to be doing a comparison video. It was the comparison of his Was'd gun against his MT retro'd gun. He says he LOVES his retro'd gun alot better, its alot easier to get ripping..... I wish i could remember who it was so i could IM him and remind him to do it..................

[KEN CRANE]

I am not really trying to flame. I am just pointing out that if anybody else posted a vid that had that much bounce everybody would call it a cheater gun or something along those lines. So i am just pointing out that everybody over on AOG is bias and hypocritical. I personally thought it was a good vid even though they claim it to be the fastest gun without bounce even though i have yet to see a vid of the eye'q that doesnt have bounce.

there is no bounce.try and get a fly to "bounce" it wont. :hi:

[KEN CRANE]

im lost...the guns fast....the GUN is VERY fast...ok? fingers really arent a big factor anymore regarding any new high end gun. everyone has dbounce, its all about whos a better cheater now.

funny jim funny....

[KEN CRANE]

Bos, why does every thread you join have to end up like this? Instead of just being a nice thread about a video, it becomes an argument. Yes, people in AOG are biased, thats the point of this site- WE ALL REALLY LOVE WDP STUFF!!! Why else would we be here? I know you are 17 and still at that age where everything is hypocritical, and the man is out to get you, but get over yourself, this is a paintball forum not everything needs to be an argument.

Anyways, nice vid Jetwing, the flied kits never cease to impress! I really need to find 300 bucks and get mine done!

-Chris

its ok bos just is misunderstood.with now over 250 flied speed,a4s and ir3s and a few lcds looks like thats the way people are choosing not becuse they are brainwashed just smarter. :elephant: :elephant:

[RgMekanic]

I love you Ken.

[LiterLeaner]

Yes it is really pathetic how WDP can claims how their guns is fast without bounce, yet everytime i see a vid they have more bounce than other vids i have seen. But other than that its a nice vid other than that.


Throw some JBWeld on the side of that baby and this poser will LOVE IT!!!! :pat:

[P8ntSlinger44]

Nice video guys. Who cares if it had bounce or not. Its still the fastest thing ive ever seen.

[WarpedSportzLcD]

the angel force 4 flyed by impact was hellla nice!! dammmmmn soo fast! sweet vid guys.. the first azn guy was pretty slow it seemed... the ir3 z-boarded egg etc.. also that a4 took soo long to empty the egg on the brick!

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

hehe, in their defense...the second guy with the a4...had a faulty sensor... and the egg was stock... in the ir3's defense...his sensor was also busted...so it was pretty good for the situation the gun was in =)

[C.Carles-AOG]

That was a looong download even on my DSL...

[sk8boardereman]

im lost...the guns fast....the GUN is VERY fast...ok? fingers really arent a big factor anymore regarding any new high end gun. everyone has dbounce, its all about whos a better cheater now.

I'm gonna come out and say it myself. I cheat just as much as dynasty does and im proud. :cool:

[Paintballjc]

i finally got the vid. to download. Its really awsome guys. As soon as i get my speed flyed ill get it up!

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

woot...another angel owners has seen the light...lol this is wat i live for

[PakmanRevd]

That's nice... verrrrrrrrrry fast.. I need to buy a new hopper. mines brokeded.

[dynastySSS]

you need to post your new vid up to patrick

[rix123]

bos

...ehhh, who cares how the fly mod compares to the HK, ace/was, snow/sun, predator/food, gum/ball,icecream/cake, etc., etc., ad nauseum...

I think the whole point is what the eye-q retrofit specifically offered by the MT group achieves...as shown by the vid...

...before I drop my hard earned money on a product, I'd like to see what it does, this vid does that....alot more tangible than someones personal opinion....

'hypocrisy' or 'brand loyalty'.....sounds like you're loyal to HK branded products/services..so which are you, loyal or hypocrite?

[bos_2005]

Wow this got out of hand quick. The only thing i was trying to point out is that AOG are a bunch of hypocrites and I personally think its funny how WDP claims that its the fastest gun without bounce yet has to use bounce to be just as fast as the compition with bounce.

And to your ?'n about how i am loyal to HK products/team (since I am an affiliate) I am not trying to push HK on to other ppl I just would like AOG to be open minded and accept other ppl for thinking outside the box. And Ken Crane already agreed with me about how more ppl need to start thinking out side the box and applauded me because i stood up to ppl who were conformist and got my rep back to a decent number becuase ppl hate on other ideas than the MT retro and Ken understands and sees where i am comming from. But other than Ken and a select few you all are the most narrowminded WDP puppets i have ever seen.

[sk8boardereman]

I for one like the guys over at Hk. I support streetball all the way. I've seen all the mods done to angels so far and i do choose the eyeq over the rest. But it all comes down to how you perform out on the field. My 2 cents.

[bos_2005]

Yes its all preferance. That is why i hate ppl who say something ignorant such as "Screw HGAY get MT retro" and thats it. They are brainwashed little twirps. I glad that you found out what you like and tested the other mods but for the ppl who have no idea and just jump on the bandwagon shouldnt even be allowed to post here.

[rix123]

:smile: Alright, I'm a puppet! Uh, bos, seems like you are exhibiting the same disposition....you know, that of a person on strings..controlled by another...

...most of the posts I have seen regarding the HK mod have not slammed their speed or capabilities...mostly it has been the esthetics...they didn't care for the 'looks' or the user interface/feedback. Fix that and your product will gain them as potential customers...bottom line. Oh, and if you don't believe that...I'm not some young teen trying to blow smoke up your arse, I'm 3/4's of the way thru the average American life expectancy and my income bracket is definitely not in the 'low consumer capability' bracket. But, like most in the consumer bracket, 'my wallet does my talkin' when it comes to spending on something it 'want' as opposed to what I 'need'. My advice to you, 'lighten up son, or you'll bust a sphincter muscle soon'...

Oh, you can confirm my age at our team page, "www.booniedogs.com", players link..

[bos_2005]

I am talking about misinformed ppl who dont know anything but to say "MT is better than all others mods" in every thread. I personally think i am informed on this situiation and chose which I like better. So there is a differance between knowing why you chose a product other than the fact than "MT is better than all other mods" and you are totally misinformed. So first figure out what you are talking about then get your old butt back and post.

Also they chose the JB weld look becuase they like it. The HK mods really aint available to the public yet so they are gona stick with what they like. If you dont like it dont support them. JUST DONT HATE BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANCE (sp?)