no on/off

[wadd]

Since AIR has no on/off, what do you guys do when you're done playing, and there's still a few thousand pounds in your tank? how do you overcome the fact that there's no on/off. I mean, you can't just unscrew it like you would a screw in tank.
Jeremy

[Emmit]

yes actually you can unscrew it.....you simply unscrew the grub until you've releived the pressure on the regulator. This is how you're supposed to fill the tank as well.

[wadd]

I'm an idiot. Can you explain what the "grgub" is? That's definitely a term I've never heard before.

[ZULU]

In the front of the reg there is a screw that you trun to adjust the pressure from 0 to say 900 psi... Just unscrew the screw till it reaches ZERO.. meaning the air is OFF and no more air is going into you gun. So it kinda has a on/off in a sense.

[wadd]

oh, ok. That makes sense. It doesn't sound too complicated. Thanks for the help. mine should be here either Thursday or Friday. I can't wait.
Jeremy

[ZULU]

Yeha you need a set of allen keys to do that.. just get a good quality set and you'll be alright.

[Langi]

Hi!

Yes, that's a solution. But I don't really like it this way. Has anybody mounted a "Inline-On/Off-valve" in combination with a "Plug-in-system" (for example like used to attach the airsystem to the fillstation)???

So you could turn off pressure and after that disconnect the A.i.r. from the Angel. No allen key is needed. I prefer this method and will try to fit it on my A.i.r. like described. It doesn't really look pretty, but should work great!

I hope you understand what I mean. Sorry for my bad English ;-)


Best regards,
Andi

[Emmit]

The problem is not relieving the pressure to the gun, that could be simply fixed by a simple slide check or a pro connect. The problem is that you need to relieve the pressure on the regulator itself, and the only way to do this is by unscrewing the adjusting screw until there is no output pressure on the regulator.

[Langi]

@Emmit

Hmm, sorry! I don't really understand. Let me explain:

You have finished playing and want to put the gun into a box and the airsystem into an other box. So you have to unscrew the A.i.r. from the gun. You turn off the valve you have attached into your Macroline and after that disconnect (with help of "pro connect" or something) gun and airsystem.

Right, you have still pressure in the Macroline between A.i.r.-output and the On/Off-valve, but why should that be a problem?


Best regards and thanks for your answer,
Andi

[Emmit]

Langi,

So what you're saying is that you're tank is still set for an output of say 600 psi, and all that's holding it back now is a slide check. Is this correct? The reasons that we've discussed for relieving the pressure on the regulator on the AIR itself are mostly for filling, however I personally never store an air system in a fashion like what you are describing. With a screw in tank would you leave it attached to a remote line with the pin depressed? That's really what you're doing when you store your AIR in this fashion. It will certainly prolong the life of your regulator if degass it not only each time you fill, but also each time you store it.

Has this helped any?

[wadd]

Also, if you just use a slide check, Air does leak out of macroline. It's so slow that it doesn't matter, and you can't tell it, but if you leave a tank putting pressure out through macroline, it'll leak out enough to empty your tank in about a week.
Jeremy

[laaron25]

Yeah I have heard someone sells a little knob that fits in the end so you can turn it down by hand w/out an allen...still a pain to have to do this...but its a little easier. Would WDP please design a new system!!!!

[oohaohh]

A friend of my had a on\off valve fitted to his angel air and when it was switched off the outpt psi slowly crept up until it went HI Psi and if it was filled even a little bit the safety valve would burp for ages. Even firing it wouldn't solve it because it got so hi. Ok so it did need a new safety valve and plate but this only stopped it burping but not creeping up. The only thing that stopped that was to set the output pressure to off (or lo-PSi) and then turn it off. We both thought it would be ideal to have it because when you were filling it wouldn't presurise the gun as well but it was more of a pain than expected. Admitedly we never set the output psi to low and never have done as we didn't realise it was neccesary but the more i think about it it makes sense.

Also someone was saying about a knob for the air system I think Cobra does them. If I get another angel Air system for my new dark toy then I'll get one i think.

[KevinB]

http://www.cobrapaintball.com/main.html