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ajc7755
07-16-2004, 12:01 AM
Sorry, I posted this in the IR3 thread as well so I can get both sides:

Ok I have been looking to upgrade my gear. Unfortunately my price range limits me to around $650. So I can either get a stock Speed, or a Fly or Dark IR3 (which I love the blue color over anything the Speed has). But I am constantly hearing that COPS is a problem compared to the Speeds sensi system. Can someone give me some pros and cons of buying an Fly/Dark IR3 or an Speed.

By the way, not sure if this matters, but I play front, so I like a tight setup, and I usually dont fire strings. I snap shoot more, and do alot of diving and running so having a PDS is necessary so I don't chop that first shot after going into the snake. Thanks

Paintballjc
07-16-2004, 12:54 AM
Speed is at a lower pressure......

Outkasted
07-16-2004, 04:53 PM
This should help out. I'm not sure if something like this has been posted on here before (I just joined).I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS AT ALL!!! It was origionaly posted on PbN (to the best of my knolege) by *Leb* in the WDP forums.

-What's the difference between the LED, LCD, IR3, SPEED, and A4?
+From the LED to the LCD, they added and improved...
*Sculpted body.
*Recessed on off switch.
*Nickel Metal Hydride battery.
*New barrel design.
*New redesigned charger.
*Holographic soft gel
*New electronic charging unit with 3-hour full charge
*New 55%larger gas gallery
*New 38% increase in internal porting
*New modular 'plug-in' wiring
*New dual adjustable double or single trigger options with full
trigger guard
*New LCD monitor display with push button controls
*New lower pressure operation
*New longer bolt for increased stability and accuracy.
*New smaller dual servo assisted 14 way micro valve.
*New cool texture grip.
*Recessed On/Off switch (taken from www.pbgear.com)

From LCD to IR3, they improved added the following...
*New! Crystal Operated Paint Sensor- feature that sees the
ball and prevents dry fires.
Patent Pending
-No External Components or Wiring
-No Optical Sensors
-Will Shoot Any Color Paintball
-Unaffected by Sunlight or Weather Conditions
-Can be Armed/Disabled During Game Play
-Adjustable Sensitivity Settings
-3 Base Level Settings
-Active LED Indicator
*New! Uni-pivotal Gated Feed System - Patent Pending
*New! 3-Styler Trigger
*New! Choice of 3 Trigger pivot points - Patent Pending
-3-Styler Trigger designed for Optimum BPS Delivery, offering
both double travel adjustment and 3 separate pivot points
allowing truly individual firing dynamic. By
being able to adjust the pivot point of the trigger you can
adjust the gun to your ideal position and maximized the rate of pull
*New! Space Frame - Patent Pending
-Perfectly balanced, the revolutionary space frame delivers improved ambidextrous
firing ergonomics while offering minimal profile to your opponent.
*New! Skin Grip
*The new skin grip has an ultra high friction co-efficient, forming a rock steady
shooting platform. You will feel more connected to your Angel than ever before.
*New! Shorter, Lighter Body
*New! Advanced 3D Milling
*New! Smaller 14 Way Valve
*New! 2 Piece Ram
-The lighter, more compact Angel IR3 is equipped with new custom manufactured
micro 14 way valve coupled with a smaller, lighter 2 piece RAM assembly delivering a
more compact and efficient operation
*New! Intellifeed Ready (Included in C&C Model)
-The IR3 Angel is has a built in Intellifeed that features adjustable activation and
duration settings enabling programming for dedicated game plans.
*New! Timer Adjustable in 30 second Increments
*New! Improved Vibes Alarm
*New! User Programmable timer alarms
*New! Metal Hydride Battery and Charger
*New! Tamper Evident Twin Layer Encapsulated PCB
*New! Clear-Vis LCD Display
*New! User Friendly Computer Menu Interface
*New! ASTM Approved Semi-auto Firing Modes (Extra Firing Modes Activated Where
Permitted)
*New! Firing Mode Display
*New! Multi-Level Infra-Red Marker to Marker Communication- Patent Pending
*New! Programmable Text Messaging
*New! Maintenance Advice System (M.A.S)
*New! Encrypted Data Storage- (E.D.S)[color] (taken from www.pbgear.com)

[color=gold]From IR3 to SPEED, they added improved the following...
*New LED Encapsulated Speed-Board
*New Double Serviceable Low-Profile Ball Detents
*New Ram Totally New Serviceable Design, 50% More Efficient
*New Sculptured Removable Hammer
*New Valve Dwell Reduced by 60%
*New Minireg Low Pressure, 50% increase in Gas Flow
*New LPR Serviceable, Operates with 1/3 Less Pressure
*New Bolt 20% More Efficient
*New Exhaust Valve and Guide 4 x Previous Flow-Rate
*New Smaller, Lighter 4.8v Rechargeable Metal Hydride Battery (100’000 shots)
*New 4.8v Intelli-Charger
*New Trigger system External TOE Adjustment for Increased Rate of Fire up to
30bps (with Sensi activated)
*New Increased Gas Galleries 2 x Air Flow
*New One Piece Flash tank Improved Gas Flow
*New Integral Breech Seal (taken from www.pbgear.com)


New Software

*New 5 Modes of fire (Semi-Automatic)
*New Sensi Load Detection System (LDS).
*New Switch & Go Operation
*New LED Power-Bar Including ROF Speedometer.
*Low pressure Operation Statistics
*LPR pressure is 1/3 less than previous Angels, meaning 33% less force is applied by
the bolt to the ball.
*Working Pressure of 180-350psi, reduced by up to 60%. Delivering reduced ball
stress and quieter operation with no effect on Rate of Fire.
*60% reduction in valve dwell reduces cycle time, increasing achievable ROF to 30
BPS. (with Sensi activated)
*Integral Breech seal on Super-flow Breech porting
*Increased porting delivers double the previous gas flow to the Bolt
*New Bolt is 20% more efficient, typically raising velocity by 40fps at the same
working pressure.
*Out of the box, Speed users can achieve up to 1450 shots at 290fps from a
68/4500 tank.(results based on Angel Air system)
(Taken from www.Pbgear.com)

From SPEED to A4, they added/upgraded the following...
*New - Angel 4 is the lightest Angel ever made at 2.29lb (Gun only) making it a full
20% lighter than the Angel IR3.
*New - Angel 4 body length is half an inch shorter and offers a substantially lower
profile than any previous model.
Angel 4 is easily capable of operating at pressures under 200psi
with the use of the color coordinated 3Sum volumiser kit included with every Angel 4
as standard.
*New - Shorter stainless steel hammer reducing Ram Overhang by 30%
*New - Smaller lighter 4th Generation Electro-Pneumatic Valve offers 20% increase
in flow efficiency.
*New - Soft-touch bolt reducing ball impact and breakage.
*New - Custom Angel back-plate with on/off indicator
*New - Twist-Lock Gated feed.
*New - Ergonomically shaped trigger with integral toe adjustment.
*New - Revolutionary Vernier trigger wheels adjust trigger movement to 0.1mm
(thinner than a human hair). The

This new Angel incarnation, which is billed as the straightest shooting, fastest,
cleverest Angel ever. The 4 uses the Proven Speed engine, which has already
established itself as being capable of out-shooting anything else out there. Back is
the LCD display with full menu options, and a host of new performance features are
included. The Bolt, 14 way, Ram, and trigger have all been modified to deliver
awesome firepower with incredible accuracy. (Taken from www.MosPaintball.com)



Hope that helped. :biggthump

Paintballjc
07-16-2004, 05:30 PM
Ya, i think that may help him a bit!.!.!.!.!.! :clap: