View Full Version : Why An ir3 Fly for a front man?
Why is it that the fly is viewed to be a front man's marker?
Is it coz they need to play tight, be as small as possible, generally they are people of a small build? so can't lift the heaver C&C version?
I don't know.....
But why not have a back man with a IR3 fly and say a 16" barrel...? Then he too can benifit from having a smaller marker and all the above benifits... Afterall we have to lug all that paint up the field so why can't we have lighter kit???
Any one agree?
Can we get WDP or someone to make an ir3 designed especially for a back man?
If they were to make it... what would be the the demands on the design to fit our needs?
SuperFly
12-11-2002, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by NBR
Afterall we have to lug all that paint up the field so why can't we have lighter kit???
Lug all that paint where? 15 to 25 feet from the starting point? LOL. Kidding aside. :evilgrin:
The fly was made with a low-rise for the front player cuz they are not shooting long strings of paint (the myth was that with a high-rise one more ball stacked up makes it so you can shoot faster, you got halo-b's now)
Front players get up as far as they can and snap shot. Thats their job. Maybe they need to keep lower cuz they are the ones crawling in the snake and on their stomachs.
Back players stand up, shout out positions of the other team, and throw paint to get the front players into these positions.
You can buy a Fly, noone said you can't. Its just a way to push the Fly to a certain group. Its marketing angles.
The only thing I can think of that would be made for back players is something like a the JT speed collar. Where you can load multiple pods in it and they stay there so you got 190+ in the hopper plus the 140 round pod or make a bigger hopper so less reloading and more sending paint down range.
i don't believe in staying at the back while my front man all the way down the other end of the field ... i get bored... i'm normally one bunker behind him.. if not side by side with him (once the game is in full flow and moving up the field...)
But all my rant and raving about one rule for one and not for the other... I view i have to stick out and snap shoot more than the front man coz i have to have control the field... so i'm constantly out left/right making sure no bugger is out to mug him..
But my real question is what improvements would you do to an ir3 to make it a more specialist for a back man? they don't have to be add-ons that are in existance.. its a clean design sheet...
b4d_455_baller
12-11-2002, 11:32 AM
back players need heavier gun for more stability...its a LOT easier to hold a heavy gun pointed straight while shooting that it is to shoot a lighter gun...just because the fly is directed towards the front player doesn't mean that only certain people can buy it..like superfly stated, its just a marketing tactic..
L8ER!
paintballguy990
12-11-2002, 04:06 PM
flys are made lighter and smaller in design to appeal to the front player (like my self) because lighter means your body can react faster and move faster during snap shooting...also when running its easier to run with a lighter marker... crawling is easier with a lighter smaller marker and low rise is nice for shooting over top of the snake for that little bit shorter hopper to save u from getting hit.
My seeing is that the Fly is cool cause of the Gated feed low rise.
jasyn
12-12-2002, 01:33 AM
um .. how much lighter is the fly vs cnc vs stock?
SuperFly
12-12-2002, 03:40 AM
All I know is the weight difference between the fly and C&C is 4 oz.
Emmit
12-12-2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by SuperFly
All I know is the weight difference between the fly and C&C is 4 oz.
exactly.......everyone is screaming about the weight, but seriously if you can't hold the extra 4 ounces for the 10 minutes it takes you to finish a game, you're seriously in the wrong sport. It's as some people have said, the mill work/low rise/and shorter barrel appeal to some players but not to others. Some guy over on PBN bought a FLY, put an 18" Boomstick, a Kapp DZ and humongous bottle on there.....had to be one of the biggest and longest Angels I'd ever seen, but that's what he wanted because he liked the milling, he obviously wasn't talking anything about weight.
JustLo
12-12-2002, 09:41 AM
the only point of they fly is the low rise, its not about the weight. Its made for a front person because the rise is alot lower. HAH at all you that think the fly is beneficial towards a front man cuz its 4 oz lighter.
Repeat, repeat, repeat...
would anyone care to read the original post?
I know why and what a fly does...
I was just a "lonely" back man crying out for someone to identify our needs at the back!
The question was:
What improvements would you do to an ir3 to make it more suitable for a back man?
Take your best and worst parts of the C&C/fly and sort of put them together to make the ultimate marker...
djmjohan
12-12-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by NBR
Why is it that the fly is viewed to be a front man's marker?
Is it coz they need to play tight, be as small as possible, generally they are people of a small build? so can't lift the heaver C&C version?
I don't know.....
But why not have a back man with a IR3 fly and say a 16" barrel...? Then he too can benifit from having a smaller marker and all the above benifits... Afterall we have to lug all that paint up the field so why can't we have lighter kit???
Any one agree?
Can we get WDP or someone to make an ir3 designed especially for a back man?
If they were to make it... what would be the the demands on the design to fit our needs?
WDP already does make an IR3 for the back man. Its ANY IR3 you feel like using plus a 88/4500 tank.
spamburg
12-13-2002, 01:47 AM
Yeah i agree, 88/4500 w/angel air, and a good quality 16" barrel(dye boomstick personal pref), other than that any IR3 is a beauty
darkmamba
12-30-2002, 04:43 AM
its noticed as a frontmans gun cuz it compact so the frontman can totally hide, its lighter so it can be easily maneuvered, and i can tell the difference between the fly and stock base ir3 angel, it is quite a difference i almost bought one but then i went wit a dar ir3 cuz i just like it more. even though i am a front player i dont get appealed by the fly even though it is quites nice, but it is all a matter of weather u like it or not
C]-[iLDe
12-30-2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by JustLo
... the fly is ... made for a front person because the rise is alot lower...
The gated lowrise is ONE PAINTBALL lower than the stock gated feed. One ball. Thats it. I haven't met that many front players who can't negotiate an extra paintball's worth of height. :) Im currently in the process of replacing my lowrise with a standard gated feed because i feel that the extra ball in the stack is more useful than having a single paintball's less height...
js3324
12-30-2002, 11:15 AM
I play front with a hi-rise and a mid weight gun, I have NO problems at all.
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