Russ Has Been Working Overtime On This Bad Boy

[KEN CRANE]

RUSS HAS BEEN IN THE LAB WORKING OVERTIME ON THIS FLY CONVERTED A4. SOME THINK THEY ARE THE HUNTER BUT THIS MAKES THEM THE HUNTED..... :pissed: :sucker: :sucker: :blasting: :blasting: :blasting: :blasting:

http://www.angel-owners.com/mastertech/mt.wmv

[IwanaANGEL]

wow! that is fast!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :blasting: 3

cant wait to send my speed in!!!!!

I just got to say, VERY VERY nice work :bowdown:Russ!!

[Emmit]

that's not just the Flied 4 tho...that's a little something else you can't see;)

[KEN CRANE]

that's not just the Flied 4 tho...that's a little something else you can't see;)

SPEAK NOT AS TO WHAT THIS MIGHT BE UNTIL THE DAY DRAWES NEARER.... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: RUSS THE ALMIGHTY !!!

[Emmit]

SPEAK NOT AS TO WHAT THIS MIGHT BE UNTIL THE DAY DRAWES NEARER.... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: RUSS THE ALMIGHTY !!!
You know I'm good for it...I'm not saying anything

[thog94]

It's good to have "Caps Lock" Ken back, he must of killed his evil clone lol

[BadlandsMitch]

What.The.Crap :clap:

I don't konw what it is but I want it........

MORE DETAILS!!!!!!

:canada:

[sharps990]

oh goodness

you MTs enjoy tormenting us by giving hints on things that will make our angels ungodly fast and making us pay shipping over and over and over again... you to emmit. i feel like i am given some type of classified information by the CIA like a 'no comment' when sombody asks is there a mod that will make my gun the fastest gun in the world.

is that semi or sum ramp mode that will make all of the DM4 owners flock to this new angel

that sure dosent sound like the angels that i am used to hearing, sounds almost like a trix or a 2003 shocker

im guessing a closed bolt system or at least a modification to the bolt-hammer-valve assembly

sharps

[Vantage_TeS]

LOL they already have the MT valve, and no that was shot in semi mode.

And that is still an open bolt system my friend.

Besides, you angel is already the fastest in the world, this will just make it...more fastest gun :)

[Furby]

I've been interrogating the crap out of Emmit...he has told me NOTHING! Can't wait to hear what's been done to that gun and loader...

The Paintball Insider has been digging as well:

http://www.68caliber.com/news/insider/story04216.php

[crashdan]

ut oh furby.....

[Hep]

Snap! Dm4's aint got anything on that.

[IwanaANGEL]

:emmit:

:shocked: Russ, I just saw the videos on your site...there are no words that can explain that!!! :blasting: its just tooo FAST

heres a llink to the videos:
http://www.angelservicecenter.com/video.htm

[sharps990]

ohhhh intelefeed halo you can planly see it in the vids

looks like fun

sharps

[C.Carles-AOG]

Cat out of the bag... lol

[cveale]

geeeez!

[mhill65]

how can it be intellifeed, doesnt a wire have to go to the battery and the halos battery is upfront, we would see it more clearly wouldnt we?

[Hep]

:evilgrin: :neutral: ;) :smile: :mt:

[C.Carles-AOG]

Read the Fly manual and think of the power requirements. Is Intellifeed only for power?

[Hep]

oopsy Carlos Im issuing a gag order on you now! lol

[C.Carles-AOG]

Will do, I was just pointing out what people can read plain as day right now.
No more being the good shepherd for me. ;)

[bobjim]

All I can say is ouch.

[sharps990]

it cant be for the power to feed the hopper b/c that would kill the batteries faster than you could shoot the fist hopper

but it could be for telling the hopper when to turn like the mod that russ was doing with the eggs

but im still woundering how it could make it feed that much faster

sharps

[C]-[iLDe]

damn cool videos!

[Paintballjc]

Whatever it is, i hope i can get it for my non-flied speed... :feed: thats some good stuff Russ

[Paintballjc]

When do you think we can expect, whatever it is, to be out??

[Emmit]

when ready it should be made publicly available I believe...until then keep your eyes open for more information;)

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

oh great...more secret things thatll have us running to our bank accounts to make a big withdrawal =)

[Emmit]

would you rather they never do R&D and come up with neat new toys to play with???

Paintball is an addicting habit...there's always something to buy:rofl:

[Furby]

would you rather they never do R&D and come up with neat new toys to play with???

Paintball is an addicting habit...there's always something to buy:rofl:


Quoted for truth. :fairy:

[Hep]

A little more info and vids can be seen here
http://www.angelservicecenter.com/
and here
http://www.angelservicecenter.com/video.htm

[Furby]

hehee...The Paintball Insider beat you to it, Hep...

[Sparco]

There's nothing stopping you from running an Intellifeed HALO or EvoII. You are correct that an Intellifeed has traditionally run off the loader's batteries but even the 12v could be rigged to run off the loader's batteries while still being connected. Thus this opens up a whole new realm to use Intellifeed as a method of activating the drive cone, not powering it.

[Hep]

hehee...The Paintball Insider beat you to it, Hep...

Well it's for the one's that missed it. And the Insider probably doesn't know what I know about this :tongue2:
But regardless this mod absolutely rips!!!!!

[mattcfleming]

That's a great idea, putting the halo as a intellifeed. Everyone was thinking about how it would work on a Egg, but never on a halo lol..

Can't wait to see this mod available for purchase.

-Matt

[C]-[iLDe]

Am i hallucinating, or were a bunch of posts deleted from this thread?

[SkeL]

Jason's post is still there.....
I'm not sure who's doing what with the posts, but what they are trying to keep secret is plainly visible in the videos...

[C.Carles-AOG]

Emmit, care to answer? WTF!?

[C]-[iLDe]

The AOG Gestapo strikes again.

[Emmit]

Emmit, care to answer? WTF!?
posts not dealing with the topic at hand were removed.

Then again I guess when we're trying to keep certain things on topic we're repressing people :cry:

[mhill65]

I might have to buy a halo now :mt:

[Furby]

I got two! :bigok:

[johnada422]

My black speed is the one reading 30 on the ROF meter at the bottom of the page of http://www.angelservicecenter.com/video.htm right click on the pic and you'l be able to see him reach this speed in an insane video.

John

Russ You are GOD!!! :bowdown:

[sharps990]

ahh cant see the last vid on the site

johnada's speed

ahh 30bps and i cant see it

shaprs

[smasher41]

HOLY FRIGGIN ****

that was some crazy shizzle

[sharps990]

nm i got it workin

that first burst was insane

sharps

[yzrm1]

I can't pause it fast enough to see where the intellifeed wires are feeding the HALO, can anyone make that out?

[IwanaANGEL]

thats a secret ;)

[sniper1111]

I didnt get to see the video was that an angel fly, or the a4 and was that a halo b with a victory board?

[sharps990]

try vid #3

you can see the wiers(its to late to be spelling half decently) coming out of the backplate where the fist would be on the MT backplates so one would think that it would be coming from the solenoid(sp) wirers(im going to stop trying to spell this word correctly), but it also has a connector like the place where u plug the wirers in on the boards

and from what i can see when i pause it looks like the wires where just stuck between the face plate and the body on the lower left hand side of the faceplate thingy

there is also sumthin funkey with the button in vid #3, there is a white ring of sumthing that almost looks like teflon around it

what im woundering is why did they drill the backplate and not the noid cover like has been done with all previous intelifeeds

but its not the same gun so i dont know what russ is doin with this one

sharps

[C]-[iLDe]

...what im woundering is why did they drill the backplate and not the noid cover like has been done with all previous intelifeeds...

Maybe theres not enough space under there?

Also, I was looking at http://www.angelservicecenter.com/upgrades.htm and at the bottom of the page, theres something called the '18 volt ripper upgrade' under the 'intellifeed' heading. Is that THIS mod? Anybody know?

I might as well just call them - wow i wonder what the time difference is between Hawaii and Illinois?

[KEN CRANE]

-[iLDe']Maybe theres not enough space under there?

Also, I was looking at http://www.angelservicecenter.com/upgrades.htm and at the bottom of the page, theres something called the '18 volt ripper upgrade' under the 'intellifeed' heading. Is that THIS mod? Anybody know?

I might as well just call them - wow i wonder what the time difference is between Hawaii and Illinois?
6 hours.just set tight we will release all the info in just a little while.dont you just hate when we do this????

[Furby]

Yes, yes I do!

:fanboy:

[C.Carles-AOG]

Hal, the 18v ripper mod was for the old Revvy's, if I recall correctly.

[C]-[iLDe]

Hal, the 18v ripper mod was for the old Revvy's, if I recall correctly.

Thanks, thats what i was wondering.

[SkeL]

Not with Emmit's gun, but with the http://www.angelservicecenter.com/video.htm video's, did anyone notice how loose his barrel is? It's about to fall off his gun.... Maybe that's the cause of some of the breaks?

[russ]

resonance.........trust me the barrel is securely screwed all the way down

[SkeL]

example: right at the end of the video file called e2, it appears as though it's wobbling a lot.
What does resonance have to do with it?

[Won Hunglo]

6 hours.just set tight we will release all the info in just a little while.dont you just hate when we do this????

Times up! Spill the scoop...AFTER you finish my fly mod.

[yzrm1]

Times up! Spill the scoop...AFTER you finish my fly mod.

I think Ken ment that it was 6 hours difference in time zones.

[tgaffner]

Damn, I just bought my A4, and now after seeing these videos i NEED to get my A4 Flied and Intellied!!!!!!!

[idirtryder13]

any updates?

[Blood_Red_A4]

Ya n e updates...6 hours!!

[outcast]

So according to the heading on Videos #3 and #4, you could break your own paint at the speed. (about 30bps?) So is this the furthest that BPS will go? Everyone talks about how fast the guns will be in the future, but how can it be if you're going to break your own paint?

[russ]

About 25bps is the fastest you could possibly shoot.
That is putting 150 balls in your halo and emptying it in 6 seconds.

[outcast]

I guess paintball has pretty much reached it's BPS peak then. :)

[Eltwitcho]

Outcast - "I guess paintball has pretty much reached it's BPS peak then."

25 BPS is not the max that can be fired w/o breaking paint. If you want proof here's a video, one breaks at the end because the spring force isn't strong enough. http://homepage.mac.com/zvetter/.Movies/QLoader_short.mov You can check out the claim with a sound editor if you don't believe them, it's got a Viking and an E-Mag both shooting that fast.

[russ]

All depends....what is it shooting over the chrono...
I do believe we have a 300 fps limit.
That Q is very fast, can't quite figure out the bps, but it does look very fast.

[idirtryder13]

russ, do you have any time frame for this project.

[russ]

Nope....
Working on the igg and the ihalo at the moment.
Currently putting a bit more emphasis in getting the iegg into the mainstream first.

[IwanaANGEL]

is the igg going to be a drop in mod or do we have to send it in?

[djroot2]

i would love to get the ihalo going on my halo and retro'd a4 :)

[russ]

Both of them are not drop in mods.
You would have to send your marker and loader in when we are ready to do them

[Furby]

Russ, can I quote you on that for a story on my website? I had a similar conversation with Frazer in Denver, but he asked me to keep it quiet for the time being...

[beachboy65]

Hey Russ,
I have an idea that you or anyone else might wanna try. Since we are getting close to the bps in paintball markers due tolernace (ex paintball maybe oval instead or perfectly round). Maybe it would be interesting to see how different barrels and paint affect the bps. And what I mean is assuming we use a single batch of paint, will a barrel with no finish have a slower max bps then a barrel with a telfon coated or a hardbore finish?

And from there what type of barrel finish would be idea. To get the highest BPS. From there other projects may develop. :evilgrin: Just a thought..

[tgaffner]

Having a smoother Barrel would do nothing. It would increase your FPS, so you would have to turn it back down, so it will still be going to same FPS as other Barrels.....

[beachboy65]

What I was thinking was, from previously stated threads, having imperfect balls are slowing down in the barrel and the ball behind catch up and causes the 2 balls to collide. And that's what limiting the BPS. So I was wondering if a barrel with a certain coating or finish would raise the BPS. But nevermind it was just a thought.

[cveale]

What I was thinking was, from previously stated threads, having imperfect balls are slowing down in the barrel and the ball behind catch up and causes the 2 balls to collide. And that's what limiting the BPS. So I was wondering if a barrel with a certain coating or finish would raise the BPS. But nevermind it was just a thought.

Logic is flawed.... the pressure behind the ball is set so that ALL the balls should be moving at the same speed when they leave the barrel (280-300 fps). A smoother barrel would just require less pressure to move the ball at that speed.

This has no bearing on balls per second.

[beachboy65]

Ok...Cool..Just a thought..

[jayr7309]

Man this man must be really busy, Because He won't return any of my E/M's

I ordered a trigger from him and UPS lost it. Hopefully MT Russ will help me out getting my trigger.

" RUSS "

THEY SENT MY TRIGGER ACROSS USA, IT WAS IN BOSTON MASS, Instead of CALIFORNIA

I received it finally

[Jouster]

Logic is flawed.... the pressure behind the ball is set so that ALL the balls should be moving at the same speed when they leave the barrel (280-300 fps). A smoother barrel would just require less pressure to move the ball at that speed.

This has no bearing on balls per second.
Well, a smooth-finish barrel only exacerbates any differences in paintballs, and especially exacerbates the problem of the orientation of the seams. The best barrel is that which touches the paintball the least, but still keeps it dead-center; that's why straight-rifling is a good feature in a barrel.

Yes, if the Intellifeed Halo delivers on its promises, the next barrier to speed will be the paintballs themselves and the barrels, not the loader. How cool would that be!?

Jouster

[Hep]

I think we are hitting the limit on bps. I seen it coming once you hit a certain speed the ball tolerance is gonna be a factor and eventually even if perfect at a certain speed the balls will hit them selves regardless if it's in the barrel (worse case) or mid air. We have maybe hit a platue in bps which I think at 25 bps do we really need anything faster? Hoppers dumped in a few seconds then taking twice as long to re-fill it... does that make any sense? Look at it that way. Off the break i can see it but mid game??? Cummon....

[Emmit]

Man this man must be really busy, Because He won't return any of my E/M's

I ordered a trigger from him and UPS lost it. Hopefully MT Russ will help me out getting my trigger.


is there a reason why you put your marker in EVERY SINGLE post you make

But to answer the question, I believe Russ said he was taking a little time off this week, however he will take care of you as soon as he can. Russ is a good guy, and doesn't try to 'rip' you off.

[Furby]

It is damn sexy, Emmit....

[russ]

This is in the wrong thread, but I tracked your package and it is in Ontario CA...no evidence that they have lost it yet.

[Jouster]

I think we are hitting the limit on bps. I seen it coming once you hit a certain speed the ball tolerance is gonna be a factor and eventually even if perfect at a certain speed the balls will hit them selves regardless if it's in the barrel (worse case) or mid air. We have maybe hit a platue in bps which I think at 25 bps do we really need anything faster? Hoppers dumped in a few seconds then taking twice as long to re-fill it... does that make any sense? Look at it that way. Off the break i can see it but mid game??? Cummon....
Solution: Bigger loaders, bigger pods.

I remember, "10 balls per second? Do you start the game with a dozen people surrounding you in a circle? Why would you ever need 10 bps!?"

Jouster

[dynastySSS]

wow i saw emmit halo today(not in action) but the drive cone went so fast lol man it so dang fast

[tgaffner]

I hope it comes out soon!!

[dynastySSS]

me2 i was so jelous hehe..come on russu can do it man

[-=Pandemonium=-]

:O i wANTTT!!!!

[tgaffner]

Come on....

[sound_man]

Is this another upgrade the shows the LED no love?

[C]-[iLDe]

...is this out YET? Its been TWO MONTHS from the original post date...

[KEN CRANE]

-[iLDe']...is this out YET? Its been TWO MONTHS from the original post date...

it will only be released when it works perfectly.right now our pro teams are testing it.we will let everyone know when it is ready.

[SlasherXII]

Just brought in mine to Russ again. Working out all the problems and pretty much trying to streamline everything. But hold onto your shorts everyone, very soon... how soon, I have no idea!!! :hititraw:

[DarkHope]

oh shiz, you got the intellifeed worken with the victory board slasher?

If so my baby might have to take another vacation to angel heaven...

[SlasherXII]

Correction, there is no board for the intellifeed. Signal output is controlled by the gun. I have 2 halos, one with the intellifeed and the other Halo is with a victory board (backup loader).

[tgaffner]

Whats going on!

[ckyxx87xx]

Whats going on!
any updates???

[tgaffner]

any updates???

I wish...

Russ hasn't said anything in awhile.....

[SlasherXII]

To tell you the truth, I think Russ has put this project on the side until he has finished all the conversions he has on hand first, I think he's still trying to catch up after returning from Vegas now World Cup.

[can2boy]

Richmond Riot has intellifeed available. Check it out. http://www.richmondriot.com/Riotfeed.htm

[Furby]

Got video/pictures of something other than the rough prototype we've seen?

[can2boy]

send them an email. I got a response the next day. sales@richmondriot.com. I just IM'd him this morning and he said the video contains an old version. They seem to have a new location for the halo connection...

[ckyxx87xx]

Got video/pictures of something other than the rough prototype we've seen?
talk to anjordan77 on aim..hes got all the stuff.....

[PakmanRevd]

uhh, I'd rather have it done by an MT.

is richmondriot legit?

[mamba_juice]

uhh, I'd rather have it done by an MT.

is richmondriot legit?



i would assume he's little more than a person who has a background in electronics and knows how to do it properly. basic intillefeed is fairly simple, but with the design of the halo it requires a lot more careful tuning, or else problems can arise...i would say it's no different than a standard intillefeed setup, but the amount of time the motor spins after each shot needs to be carefully tuned, and since every halo is different, the tuning will have to be done according to the loader itself.

but i really dont like the idea of a single 9v battery to power a loader like that...the draw to spin that motor that fast will run that poor little battery out like no tomorrow.

[ckyxx87xx]

"but i really dont like the idea of a single 9v battery to power a loader like that...the draw to spin that motor that fast will run that poor little battery out like no tomorrow."

i was talking to anjordan77 and he said you can run it off a 9v 2 9v's 4AA's or 6AA's..and he also said somewhere in the thread on pbnation i think that one 9v should last 70,000 (maybe a little off)shots....

[DarkHope]

hmmmmmm...I still fail to see the purpose of putting an intellifeed on your gun if you still need batteries...although its not like replacing a 9v every 70k shots would be a hassle :)

[mamba_juice]

i was talking to anjordan77 and he said you can run it off a 9v 2 9v's 4AA's or 6AA's..and he also said somewhere in the thread on pbnation i think that one 9v should last 70,000 (maybe a little off)shots....


i thought about it a little more after i replied, and unless there is some sort of regulation, the motor will, as he said, spin very very very fast....probably too fast. that's probably why he only uses one 9v, is because the stock board and the victory board regulate the power to the motor, and in his particular setup he uses none. so in essence the best way to have it function properly is to use only a single 9v....i'm not particularly certain about battery consumption because i'm still running the same 6 duracells since May, probably have put at least 30 cases through it on the fastest V35 setting, and there's no sign of it dying anytime soon.

[ckyxx87xx]

i thought about it a little more after i replied, and unless there is some sort of regulation, the motor will, as he said, spin very very very fast....probably too fast. that's probably why he only uses one 9v, is because the stock board and the victory board regulate the power to the motor, and in his particular setup he uses none. so in essence the best way to have it function properly is to use only a single 9v....i'm not particularly certain about battery consumption because i'm still running the same 6 duracells since May, probably have put at least 30 cases through it on the fastest V35 setting, and there's no sign of it dying anytime soon.
exaclty why he is using the 9v....

DarkHope: if it were completely run off the power of the gun it would drain the guns battery so fast....the battery from the gun is to basically start it up...

[Jouster]

Shall I correct you? Or just let you all keep going and see if you figure it out yourselves?

Jouster

[Furby]

I've spoken with Russ on this matter, and he is in fact working on the iHALO, but some significant challenges remain. Have no fear, when it's done it'll be wicked fast and more importantly, right.

[Jouster]

I've spoken with Russ on this matter, and he is in fact working on the iHALO, but some significant challenges remain. Have no fear, when it's done it'll be wicked fast and more importantly, right.
From every indication I've heard, Russ' iHalo is going to blow every other Intellifeed Halo mod out of the water.

Jouster

[ckyxx87xx]

Shall I correct you? Or just let you all keep going and see if you figure it out yourselves?

Jouster

a word from Jouster can never hurt....
what do u have to say????

[Jouster]

a word from Jouster can never hurt....
what do u have to say????
Thanks for the vote of confidence.

ANJordan claims that the "Riotfeed Halo" will last 7 cases on a single 9V. That's so blatantly wrong I won't even bother to get into details.

As to everybody else's speculation--the thing you have to remember about alkaline 9V's is that they have a power curve when under heavy load similar to a hungover frat boy's consciousness curve after taking a shot of espresso. The first few minutes/the first few milliamphours are fine, but then voltage drops to something like 3/4 of their nominal output (the frat boy passes out).

The worst problem about all of this is that it's very subtle. If you put in a new battery and shoot a thousand shots with it, and use the Angel's ROF feature to check how fast you were shooting, it'll read pretty high. If you reset the ROF and shoot another hundred, it'll still read high. Why? Because when alkaline batteries are allowed to rest, [simplification alert] they regain some of their output voltage. If you had been able to use a triggerbot to shoot over a counting chrony without having to pause to reset anything, you would notice the dropoff in bps in a heartbeat.

Conclusion: a single 9V is not enough to power the Halo in an Intellifeed configuration. Even two 9V's is a little iffy. Russ' iHalo will take this into account, and therefore will be the best Intellifeed mod for the Halo, and the only one I want.

Jouster

[KEN CRANE]

Shall I correct you? Or just let you all keep going and see if you figure it out yourselves?

Jouster

i am curious as to if any of you know.we wont release ours until its 100% perfect.its easy to do a intelifeed with 1 9 volt you will soon see the real way it needs to be done.

[Hep]

The worst problem about all of this is that it's very subtle.
Jouster

:pat:

[ckyxx87xx]

oh ok good point...
"Conclusion: a single 9V is not enough to power the Halo in an Intellifeed configuration. Even two 9V's is a little iffy. Russ' iHalo will take this into account, and therefore will be the best Intellifeed mod for the Halo, and the only one I want."

he also said it could be run off of 4 AA's or 6 AA's... is there any voltage problems there??
besides him saying that the 6 AA's spins it way too fast..

[Jouster]

i am curious as to if any of you know.we wont release ours until its 100% perfect.its easy to do a intelifeed with 1 9 volt you will soon see the real way it needs to be done.
Absolutely. I know enough to know that the "Riotfeed" is not going to provide the speed, power, and consistency that we're looking for out of an iHalo. I don't pretend to know how to do it better; that's for Russ, who spits more electronics knowledge out with his toothpaste in the morning than I am ever likely to acquire.

Jouster

[KEN CRANE]

Absolutely. I know enough to know that the "Riotfeed" is not going to provide the speed, power, and consistency that we're looking for out of an iHalo. I don't pretend to know how to do it better; that's for Russ, who spits more electronics knowledge out with his toothpaste in the morning than I am ever likely to acquire.

Jouster

not you.. :nono:

i need help finding a missing dll in windows 2000 server

[C.Carles-AOG]

Call me up Ken, I'll do what I can.

[KEN CRANE]

Call me up Ken, I'll do what I can.
i cant find your card

[bunker17]

Ken what does your missing ddl have to do with the ihalo ??

[KEN CRANE]

Ken what does your missing ddl have to do with the ihalo ??with the correct dll my file server will start to work correctly and i can get back to work other than that ? absoulty nothing

[Tink]

I looked on angelservicecenter.com and saw the advertisement for the upgrade in their upgrades section, but did not see a mention of the Speed marker next to it (only has Angel 4, Fly, Force Fly, and Converted IQ) why? Why would this mod work on an angel 4 and not a Speed? What would have to be done to have it work on a speed (least this way I can be ready for when it does come out)?

[ckyxx87xx]

:doh:
so the iHalo is out?? or just the wiring and whatnot??

[Emmit]

so the iHalo is out?? or just the wiring and whatnot??
nevermind...I mis interpreted what the user was asking, and as such i've removed my post as it had incorrect information in it.

[Jouster]

I looked on angelservicecenter.com and saw the advertisement for the upgrade in their upgrades section, but did not see a mention of the Speed marker next to it (only has Angel 4, Fly, Force Fly, and Converted IQ) why? Why would this mod work on an angel 4 and not a Speed? What would have to be done to have it work on a speed (least this way I can be ready for when it does come out)?
It may or may not work on the Speed, but I'd gravitate towards not; keep in mind that the original Speed has no adjustments for length of activation on the Intellifeed port.

Jouster

[Tink]

What about a speed with a fly conversion, or a speed with an a4 board?

[Emmit]

What about a speed with a fly conversion, or a speed with an a4 board?
if you've had the conversion done, and can make the intellifeed adjustments with the board settings (ie the T and A) then it should work.

[Jouster]

If you've had the conversion done, or otherwise can make the intellifeed adjustments with the board settings (i.e. because you put in an A4 board) then it should work.

Additionally, on the Speeds running on the higher-voltage solenoid, you may have to be even more paranoid about keeping the marker charge topped up.

Jouster

[can2boy]

I wish an MT would say when is the projected time this iHALO will come out. Since I don't want to waste money getting an intellifeed from RichmondRiot and then few days/weeks later, iHalo from MT comes out...

[P8ntSlinger44]

I hope it will work with the Angry Board i just got, that would be the ultimate hopper. The Angry Intelli Halo.

[fife]

I hope it will work with the Angry Board i just got, that would be the ultimate hopper. The Angry Intelli Halo.


You won't need the Angry, it will not work with the iHalo. Besides, you will want to keep your iHalo happy?

[dynastySSS]

your angel board would reaplace the angrey board :pat: the angle tells the motor when to spin and for how long...i think

[P8ntSlinger44]

You won't need the Angry, it will not work with the iHalo. Besides, you will want to keep your iHalo happy?

Why wont I need the Angry board. the iHalo mod must still need some type of circuitry in the Halo. And if it does, then the Angry is the best board to do the job. I hate this waiting and wondering BS.

[dynastySSS]

didnt i just explane why:dunno:

[dynastySSS]

i dont see a board here :) http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12305

[P8ntSlinger44]

Oh wow, I havn't seen that picture yet. Hmm, damnit... And my Angry Board just came in today. Testing wil be done at practice this saturday. But hopefully it will feed as consistant as the intelli mod supposedly can. If it does, then I wont need intelli. BUt since it's coming from the Mt's, I just dont know whast to think.

[Tink]

Well I just wanna know why my speed still has provisions on the board for both a Hopper and Data Link (I know neither option is available for the marker)????

[Jouster]

Well I just wanna know why my speed still has provisions on the board for both a Hopper and Data Link (I know neither option is available for the marker)????
Data Link allows WDP Master Techs and the factory to upgrade your Speed board. Admittedly, AFAIK, there haven't been any software upgrades for the Speed boards, but if there had been, you would have needed that data link port to get them. So, three cheers to WDP for planning for the worst and executing so well on the first try that they didn't need to use their backup plan! :)

The HOP port works, but it's not adjustable the way it is on an A4 or a Fly. You can hook up an IntelliRevvy to a Speed, no problem. But an iHalo takes those fine-tuning adjustments.

Jouster

[tgaffner]

Ok.... This is taking WAY to long.

[dynastySSS]

good products dont appear over night

[C.Carles-AOG]

Would you rather a product pusked out before it's really ready for prime time and breaks all the time or has "hiccups"? Their reputations are behind these products, they're not just out to make a quick buck and fade away.

[XXPaintDemonXX]

wow...thats better than i thought they come out like...i still like my 05 speed though lol.

[ckyxx87xx]

wow...thats better than i thought they come out like...i still like my 05 speed though lol.
what are you saying???

[dynastySSS]

ummmmm yea what did he say lol

[firemedic30]

I know that it is speculation, but does anybody know enough to do a report with the MT vrs. Riot mod??

[Jouster]

I know that it is speculation, but does anybody know enough to do a report with the MT vrs. Riot mod??
Consider, as an analogue, the difference between a Ferrari and a Honda Civic.

Jouster

[can2boy]

Consider, as an analogue, the difference between a Ferrari and a Honda Civic.

Jouster

How different could it be? One spin every trigger pull and it's the gun that controls the length of time it spins. Can the MT Halo spin it faster than the RiotFeed? Does the MT halo use a board? Riotfeed doesn't ( as far as I can see when I disassembled my riotfeed halo to install a rip drive kit. - but may be wrong)...

[tgaffner]

How different could it be? One spin every trigger pull and it's the gun that controls the length of time it spins. Can the MT Halo spin it faster than the RiotFeed? Does the MT halo use a board? Riotfeed doesn't ( as far as I can see when I disassembled my riotfeed halo to install a rip drive kit. - but may be wrong)...

Roitfeed is just another hack job.

Its like comparing the WAS and HK mods to the EYEQ conversion.

If you have a Fly and a Riotfeed, you have one foot in a bucket of gold and one foot in a pile of §§§§.

[C.Carles-AOG]

I can say that even the real early (one of the first 3 ever made) versions of the iHalo absolutely rocks. The later versions have a lot of work done, more than just software changes, that's for sure.

[can2boy]

Roitfeed is just another hack job.

Its like comparing the WAS and HK mods to the EYEQ conversion.

If you have a Fly and a Riotfeed, you have one foot in a bucket of gold and one foot in a pile of §§§§.

Why? Do you have a riotfeed that you can really objectively say that it's a "pile of $$$$$"? I'm just trying to get an unbiased opinion instead of bashing a product that's not coming from the MTs. Cause when the MT Halo comes out and it's surely better than the riotfeed, in a NY minute, I'm gonna have one of my regular V35 halo's done by an MT... (I currently have a riotfeed halo that's SO MUCH FASTER and CONSISTENT - no comparison - than my V35 and Reloader B on the fastest settings )... :bowdown:

[fife]

Well I haven't seen the iHalo yet but know enough about it to say that there is no comparison. The iHalo I'm sure will surpass every loader out there. However, the Riot is no pile of **** and it certainly is not a "hack" job. Does it offer the features that the iHalo will, definately not. Consider the Riot to be a "well" modified Halo B or Reloader that takes advantage of technology built into the Fly, Speed or A4. It is a simple design/modification that is extremely reliable and faster than most electronic loaders. I say most only because I have personally not yet tested the Angry board. BUT, I say again BUT, both the Angry and the Riot use the same motor and drive ratio. I can't see the Angry being any faster, maybe more features, but probably not faster.

[KEN CRANE]

Why? Do you have a riotfeed that you can really objectively say that it's a "pile of $$$$$"? I'm just trying to get an unbiased opinion instead of bashing a product that's not coming from the MTs. Cause when the MT Halo comes out and it's surely better than the riotfeed, in a NY minute, I'm gonna have one of my regular V35 halo's done by an MT... (I currently have a riotfeed halo that's SO MUCH FASTER and CONSISTENT - no comparison - than my V35 and Reloader B on the fastest settings )... :bowdown:


this type of resopnse isnt really fair.the richmond riot will work as he has designed it and work well.russ on the other hand had exploited the weaknesses by extencive testing and has requested we hold off until the correct parts are manufactured for us to make ours the way russ wants it.

[Jouster]

this type of resopnse isnt really fair.the richmond riot will work as he has designed it and work well.russ on the other hand had exploited the weaknesses by extencive testing and has requested we hold off until the correct parts are manufactured for us to make ours the way russ wants it.
Exactly. Ferrari versus Honda Civic; the latter is certainly better than no car at all, but if you can only get one, wait for the Ferrari.

Jouster

[fife]

Exactly. Ferrari versus Honda Civic; the latter is certainly better than no car at all, but if you can only get one, wait for the Ferrari.

Jouster

Or you can continue to drive a Yugo and have the guy in the Civic pass you by until you save up for the Ferrari.
LOL

[SlasherXII]

Exactly. Ferrari versus Honda Civic; the latter is certainly better than no car at all, but if you can only get one, wait for the Ferrari.

Jouster

Then it's the Ferrari for me then :thefinger

[pbmatt74]

I skimmed over everything and was wondering, Is there a general release date yet? I hope it's before Christmas. :smiley:

[dynastySSS]

no official word yet.....

[$J-MAL$]

what he did was steal the wings of a real angel and some how put it in that gat

[dynastySSS]

a little thing called intellifeed ;)

[$J-MAL$]

im new to angels and the whole intellie feed thing can u explain

[dynastySSS]

well in this case there are three 9vts that power the halo w\ the angel board telling it when to spin(like very trigger pull) by dunning a wire from the board to the halo...

[$J-MAL$]

o ok thanx man

[Spedracer]

so...i hear with the riot, if you shoot all the paint out of your hopper you have to reload and then turn the rip drive to get it to work again...

^cause i guess since the solenoid doesnt click(due to eyes not sensing paint) then the halo doesnt spin.

will the mt ihalo be like this?

what i was thinking is to have it somehow turn the cone if the angel doesnt see any paint. would that be possible?

[UNNAMED]

man thats so fast.. id never thot id see the day ..this makes me love angels more and more :)

[team_freeballin]

Why does it sound like that? Its like a whistle or something?

[SlasherXII]

With the MT's iHalo, there is a preload button.

That sound you're hearing is the cone spinnin' uber fast! Sucker will chop paint if you use 3 9 volts. I've timed mine at 5.5 secs of unload, too fast for anyone to pull off unless you play in the NXL using a TR 22 then you'd be pulling off 30+ bps! :fairy:

[fife]

so...i hear with the riot, if you shoot all the paint out of your hopper you have to reload and then turn the rip drive to get it to work again...

^cause i guess since the solenoid doesnt click(due to eyes not sensing paint) then the halo doesnt spin.

will the mt ihalo be like this?

what i was thinking is to have it somehow turn the cone if the angel doesnt see any paint. would that be possible?

You are correct, it sounds like a pain but you want to make it a good habit not to run out of paint. In a case where you lose track of your paint, it's easy to give the rip a quick spin. You might want to contact them because I think they have a newer version that solves that "issue" (push button :dunno: ) .

No the iHalo operates a little differenty.

[tgaffner]

I am seeing more and more poeple with the IHalo, is it soon to be out?

[tgaffner]

This has been posted 6 months ago....

You have to tell us something...

[matthepepe]

they dont have to tell you anything other than its not 100% ready.

[dynastySSS]

:dito: lay off russ he is the man

[pgaglio]

:dito: lay off russ he is the man

Agreed, but he sure must work a lot of overtime.

[P8ntSlinger44]

Well, they dont have to tell us anything...but personally I'd like to know how its coming.

[AngelBoi]

i think i know what it is now.........

[Hendrix]

haha, a little late

[kk209]

is this MT intellifeed mod something that i could run on a reloader B or am i going to have to buy a Halo?

[tgaffner]

is this MT intellifeed mod something that i could run on a reloader B or am i going to have to buy a Halo?

It removes the Board, so it wouldn't matter...

[kk209]

is there a cost/time estimate for the conversion? will it be worth the money if i haven't flied my A4 yet?

[Hendrix]

Can we buy the entire Halo already set up? Also would this double feed on one, good detent?

[pgaglio]

you can't buy this mod yet.

[Hendrix]

I know t, but what I meant was WILL we be able to buy a brand new Halo with the mod rather than sending in one.

[SlasherXII]

That could be possible... It is a good idea to keep a backup halo. I think to buy a new halo and get the mod would be kinda expensive. $115 for Halo + whatever the cost for the mod, i'm thinking at least $70 smackeroos. But from what I have from Russ, it is more than worth it. Plz don't quote me... :ph34r:

[Hendrix]

Trust me I wont :tongue: hehe. I'm waiting for Russ or another MTs help on this.

[speed demon 666]

so know one know when the mod or watever is ready?

[Eclipse]

im just curious on the ihalo on a 05 speed??? its all talk about a A4 which has "more" features...so would the 05 be effected by this like can or cannot do this mod? cauze that is killa fast and if I have to get a A4 or fly instead of the 05 that I want then I might have to do that with the eye conversion I guess

[tgaffner]

im just curious on the ihalo on a 05 speed??? its all talk about a A4 which has "more" features...so would the 05 be effected by this like can or cannot do this mod? cauze that is killa fast and if I have to get a A4 or fly instead of the 05 that I want then I might have to do that with the eye conversion I guess

You connot use the IHalo, IEgg, Riot-Feed, or any Hopper device on the 05 Speed. That is because it does not have a HOP Port to allow these set-ups.

Sorry...

[pimpinsaylor]

so is this still coming or what?

[josh_hill]

Where you been?

http://www.richmondriot.com/Riotfeed.htm

[Shorty7777]

here is a video of an 05 speed using an intellifeed Halo.. I didn't think this was possible
http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/1009.html

[fife]

Where you been?

http://www.richmondriot.com/Riotfeed.htm

This isn't the "iHalo". It's not even Russ's project. It does work great though for an intellifeed Halo:)

[josh_hill]

My bad, I thought he was refering to the riot feed. :embarasse

[pimpinsaylor]

im just gonna wait till russ getshis halo out!

[Luzrd]

here is a video of an 05 speed using an intellifeed Halo.. I didn't think this was possible
http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/1009.html

they couldve swap to a board with an intelifeed port, or using the stock board spliced into the solenoid wiring to get the signal a shot was fired.
(not sure what that whats needed to do this)

[moth99]

It's most likely an a4 fly board, someone on here did it to their 05 speed and posted pics on here
http://angelowners.com/showthread.php?t=37100&page=3&pp=15
Scroll down and check out Peter314. If you read through the pages he tells how he mounted it.

It is a fly board read, the description on jayloo.

[LayinRocker]

any new update to what time the ihalo will be ready??

[redhotee]

so is it out yet?

[bigPimpsta]

this is probably the pr mod or intellifeed or something

[GMG Force Fly]

Its a modified intellifeed mod but they gave up...too bad.

[firemedic30]

Try the JALO instead!!

[SKUNKY DRO]

i want my g7 to do that.... :pisss:

[BAKERmancan]

my g7 fly already DOES that

[AngelFLY04]

I am looking to put Angel Eyes in my 04 Fly any one know anything about that?

[Trigga Nometry]

I am looking to put Angel Eyes in my 04 Fly any one know anything about that?Check this out: http://www.angelforce.tv/conversion.html

and also check out here: http://www.angel-owners.com/forumdisplay.php?f=131

[eddieme2u]

sorry if i'm alittle late, but did this ihalo? come out yet?

[Won Hunglo]

I am looking to put Angel Eyes in my 04 Fly any one know anything about that?

It already has eyes installed.