IR3+HaloB

[AngelIR3CnC]

Ive heard some people having problems with this combo, and some not by fixing it. Whats your opinion? I heard to take the gated feed out, and turn dwell up. No I dont have a halob yet.

[AngelIR3CnC]

BTW WDP used a haloB on their test to 20 bps. It worked just fine and ive seen others work fine. On warpig they took off the gated feed and it worked..

[C]-[iLDe]

I dont think theres any real concrete fix for the iR3/ Halo B problem. In fact, if u were to email or call Odyssey about it, they would tell you they dont really consider it an issue because there ARE guys who use the iR3 and the Halo B successfully.

I dont personally know of anyone using this combo. Granted, I have seen pics of iR3 setups with a Halo, but i dont know how well its working for those people.

[BlueC&CIR3]

the people i've seen that have a halo b on their ir3, have been successfull w/ it. I myself just bought i halo :). I tested it out on a friends lcd and it worked great. Will test it out on my ir3 tomorrow.

The one person i know w/ a halo b on his ir3 had to tighten his ball detent and turn his dwell to 16. Now he loves his halo b and has no problems whatsoever.

[Jonny]

There is a few things...

1) Take apart your HALO and grease up the belt drive, use Love Grease or Shocker Lube. This acts like a clutch.

2) Stronger ball detent. Cobra makes some nice ones. But for some reason their "indestructible" one kept breaking paint for me. Their other ones are nice.

3) Change dwell. Apparently it works.

4) Little tighter bore sizes.

5) Buy an EGGII- haven't heard any complaints about them.

One question, how does removing your gated feed help?

[AngelIR3CnC]

Nono, I want a HaloB. Most likely already in a box at my house. Im sure I will get it to work right, ive seem many that have had it work right. Gonna change dwell to 16, and tighten the ball detent a bit. Ive heard of others who do the same.

[AngelIR3CnC]

BTW how do I adjust my ball detent. Just trying to learn everything before I get it.

[Worr]

is it even possible to tighten a ball detent? Or do you have to buy a new one?

[Jonny]

For the stock ball detent you can just screw it in further. If you buy a 2 peice cobra, you can put very small washers behind the spring to tighten it up.

[SuperFly]

I have the fly. I have done everything(i.e. grease o-ring, slow the force feed down, etc. Raising the HaloB has not fixed the problem I have with the ball stack. I still have the following ball hanging down a bit in the way of the bolt. Using marbs. I might just give up and go with a RIC2k0. I don't shoot faster than 12bps when I am playing anyways.

[Jonny]

Some HALO's really have problems. I hope thier new loader is a little better. They have some agitating system comeing out (like VL's and Rics).

http://www.odysseypaintball.com/halosa.html

For now I have decided to stick with the Intella feed Rev with modifyed Evil paddles.

[AngelIR3CnC]

Looks pretty nice, but HALOs do feed faster because of the force feed.

[Rock_75]

I have been shooting the Halo with an IR3 for weeks. It hasn't given me any problems at all and I haven't changed a thing. It is really fast, and I love it

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[as-man]

Those of you having success with the Halo: When you sanded down the feed-neck of the Halo to fit in the centerfeed of the angel, did you sand down so much that the entire Halo-feed-neck was able to fit in the angel-feed-neck?

I still have appr. 5mm left that sticks out on top of the angel-feed...



And did you remove the gated feed membrans?

[Rock_75]

I still have the gated feed in mine and it works great. As for the little bit left over, I have that too. It doesn't seem to effect performance any.

[as-man]

Ok, I just thought that little bit could make the balls only feed halfways down or something...

But I'll try and see, I guess...

[spamburg]

i use the halo b with no problems at all, and i'm shooting between 14-15bps (of course in short bursts of 6-7balls) i set my halo in about 1/2 inch

[SuperFly]

I just tested my halo-b after lighting up the sensitivity on the motor and greasing the o-ring. 12bps and no break or chop. 140 paintballs used to test. Fly-Stock detent with cobra bolt, sanded the ball chamber as well. Smooth. No dwell change. 14.

[C]-[iLDe]

Originally posted by SuperFly
...Fly-Stock detent with cobra bolt, sanded the ball chamber as well. Smooth...

You sanded the INSIDE of your breech? What did u use to do that, a dremel?

[SuperFly]

Actually I used 240 grit sandpaper by hand. Sanded the ball detent area. It had a big burr were a ball could rip. The top archway, front and back(area were the feed drops the ball) had a sharp edges. Just sanded a bit. Not much. Just enough to take the sharpness out.

[Styles Bitchley]

I have heard before some of the iR3s have oversized chambers that allow the ball to move around too much and not stack properly.

[C]-[iLDe]

Originally posted by Styles Bitchley
I have heard before some of the iR3s have oversized chambers that allow the ball to move around too much and not stack properly.

Ive heard that too, and my Fly's breech IS kinda oversized...but my Dark's is like that too! I wish i had an LCD or another iR3 to compare with...

[SuperFly]

Yeah my Fly is a little big but that hasn't effected it apparently.

[Gary1]

I finally got my IR3/Halo-b running right. What specifically the problem was...I couldn't say. There are a few personal observations I have about this situation. It's kinda like one hook catching fish and the other not... Send me a PM if you want to hear another opinion...

[Emmit]

Nomad......if you have figured out something that would be of great use to everyone that's either trying to decide on a Halo, or currently has one but is having problems please post it. No sense in keeping secrets for yourself. Help out everyone that has helped you as well.

[Skream9]

Buy an Evo2..it'll solve all your problems. There are plenty of people out there who would trade their Evo2s+cash for just your HaloB.

[AngelIR3CnC]

I got an email from Frazer of WDP. He said when they had problems with theirs on the 20bps video all they did to fix it was put on some silicon grease to make the belt drive slip a little.

[RoAdraGE]

i just fit on my halo b when i got it to my stock ir3 (straight from the wrapping) with no adjustments and it was ready to go, no problems as of yet. sounds like what some people are experiencing were maybe some fluke manufacturing flaws???

[SuperFly]

I think it is like any other product made. Some get lemons or need a little mod to work properly. Sometimes there are little differences that effect performance, sometimes it works as advertised. Its a hit and miss situation.

[Gary1]

Emmit,
You are right on about keeping secrets. To those who may have been offended by my request for PM's, I apologize.
Here I go...Cold weather, brittle paint, force fed hoppers, and a little pin (cops) sticking up right where the ball is slammed down into the chamber (slammed, not dropped)... My cops sensor would not depress to the point of being flush with the bottom of the chamber. If it will not go all the way flush, it will nick or crack the ball. Once fired, the paint was blowing up in the barrell. I removed my sensor rod and filed it so, when pushed down, it would not protrude more than .003" into the chamber.

I am running very sucessfully now. Since it was my opinion and this opinion was expressed before on this forum, i didn't wanna preach....'cause it may not work for everybody.

Again, sorry guys.

[C]-[iLDe]

Originally posted by RoAdraGE
i just fit on my halo b when i got it to my stock ir3 (straight from the wrapping) with no adjustments and it was ready to go, no problems as of yet. sounds like what some people are experiencing were maybe some fluke manufacturing flaws???

Let us know how your performance is after about 4-5 cases...thats when most people's problems started to show up...

[Danno1769]

Man I have tried everything:
Adjusting the dial on th board, lubing the hell out of the belt drive, removing the gated feed, bought another ball detent... nothing has worked, please someone help
thanks

[Gary1]

Some days good, some days baaaadddd! I still think the belt is grabbing way too much. Try (with the hopper empty) holding the paddlewheel and preventing it from turning. Feel how much torque it has? Mine has a bunch, even after oiling. Have you thought about a looser belt? I think that will be my next step...although I have read some threads that said that wouldn't work...

[Tempest261]

it has to do with the breech. when I used larger paint, I had no problems. when I used smaller paint, all I had was soup.

[s-fin]

I havn't had a problem with mine making soup. Only double feeding after the stock detent had about 4 cases through it. I replaced it and it has work great since.

[djmjohan]

Originally posted by Danno1769
Man I have tried everything:
Adjusting the dial on th board, lubing the hell out of the belt drive, removing the gated feed, bought another ball detent... nothing has worked, please someone help
thanks

do you use small bore paint? Some people are simply unable to use that combo with small bore paint.

Take off the barrel, and DE-GAS your gun.
Drop a single small-bore paintball into the breech. Now look down the barrel end. Drop a second small bore paintball.

(I've used Blaze that has needed the .679 freak insert!)

See how with small paint, the bottom part of the second paintball is visible? With really small paint, I can almost see about 1/5th of the next ball.

So the Halo holds the stack firmly in place. When the bolt comes forward, it smacks the bottom of the second ball, weakening the shell and either causing it break right then, OR it breaks when it gets loaded into the breech.

Either way...soup.

lube up your Halo a bit more, and some people find setting your dwell higher to 16 or 17 has helped. give that a try.

[CpCnCir3]

Originally posted by C]-[iLDe
Ive heard that too, and my Fly's breech IS kinda oversized...but my Dark's is like that too! I wish i had an LCD or another iR3 to compare with... i think somewhere in my manual or box or something it says that the ir3s come with larger breaches to accomodate(sp?) to larger paint. i dunno if this is true.

i myself NEVER break paint with normal or larger sized paint but for some reason i get tons of breaks in the breach or barrel (never get chops though, thank you cops2, lol)) when using SMALL paint.(like diablo seconds that are smaller than the smallest freak insert). it just seems to blow up. i know this because i even took off the barrel and took 1 single shot and it just came out a big paint explosion. it couldnt have chopped because i wasnt even rapid firing. just seems to blow up like i said before.i have a cobra indstruc detent and its not too tight nor does it let paint go right by it, so thats not the problem. i used a revvy with cops2 on and i also used an egg2 with full batteries and it still did this. so im stuck, my gun is set up perfectly and works amazingly with normal or larger paint but just blows up smaller paint. does anybody know exactly why this happens with smaller paint only??? does the larger breach have to do with it?? does the cops rod have anything to do with it??

[Ravaging]

If you have problems with the Halo B try this it worked for a friend of mine and ne!
Take a 20 oz bottle top cut it in half and slip it over your Halo neck slide it all the way up then put in your Angel. this raises it up a bit and seems to work really great!!!
Had a bad problem with mine chopping and over feeding until I did this!!!

[Danno1769]

wow neat. I will try this, just cut the cap in half you say?

I think the bore size of the paint matters too, case when I use a larger bore size, the ball rests highly on the cops rod, eliminating any posiblility of a second ball falling in too much

[N8KSC]

Try this - see what firmwear version you are running if you are running anything other then TE then I would recommend sending your halo board back to oddysey to have them reprogram it with the current version TE. This newer firmware was developed based on people chopping paint and having to much down force on the ball stack. The newest version of the TE not only reduces tension on the ball stack but will stop the motor if a jam occurs and prevent the board from any damage. To check and see if you have the latest version of the TE firmware turn your Halo on. If the motor runs continuosly without pausing then you have the latest version of TE, if you motor runs for 3 seconds or so then pauses, then runs again for 3 seconds pauses ECT... you have an older firmware version which applies much more force on the ball stack and you should get the newest version programmed into your Halo-B. The people at oddysey developed the new TE version with the Angel owner in mind. They will reprogram your board for about $10.00 Hope this helps. This is only 1 of a few things that could be malfunctioning with the Angel - Halo-B combo.

Steve - Airsmith

[Benfrain]

No, I tried 2 Halo's both with TE software and they both made soup. I just bought another Halo B TE to try with my IR3 this weekend.

I have tried turning the Halo on whilst looking through where the barrel screws in and no matter how many balls I push past the detents with my finger (acting as a slow motion 'bolt'!) the stack never pushes past the detent so I don't think that could be the cause of the problem. However, I have a different detent (Custom Products) to try this weekend to see if it alleviates the soup making problem in any way.

Will post results if I figure out why it happens.

I had all but give up on using a Halo until I had a go of someones Viking with a Halo and it worked absolutely flawlessly, so there must simply be some element of incompatibility...?

[Ir3Flyer19]

I have a fly ir3.
halo-b te
mrof 14
dwell 15
free flow mod
evil bolt
stock detent
freak to fit paint
and I never chop unless i get really careless and dont reload before the last few balls, which never has happened in a game that counted.
I never messed with greasing the belt or tightning the ball detent or none of that. works perfect.

I have the cops sensor and rod taken out and i dont use it. if i have my guns mrof any higher than 14 itll skip shots since i outshoot the halo on bursts.

[N8KSC]

Gary1 is rite about the COPS sensor (it can be a ball ripper) I have been repairing angels for a while now and that is about 50% of all chop problems with regards to using a halo B. The sensor is definetly not made uniform and some of them stick out farther then others. Like Gary1 says File down the shaft to almost flush (just a hair sticking up) this cures 50% of angel Halo-B chops that I have worked on.

Steve - Airsmith

[dusted]

i use a halo b w/ir3 and it works great. i did take out gated feed riser and replace riser with a clamp riser. i have no breaks whatsoever. my dwell is at 14, mrof-20, cops-20